As someone who has played cod before, I understand

The police should setup a sting at the graveyard in case he tries camping there.

The Central Ashland Bike Path probably won't be seeing many solo travelers anytime soon.

"Don't be there if you don't have to be," Holderness told the Ashland Daily Tidings recently. "But if you do, don't go alone."

Farking campers ruin it for everyone else as usual.

NkThrasher: To a man, those who knew him say Grubbs, who traversed the bike path to get to and from his job as a grocer each day, was as nice a guy as anyone, that he had no enemies, that no one who would want him dead.

"This couldn't have happened to a more innocent and genuinely wonderful human being," wrote Grubbs's best friend, Garrison Mau, in a recent Facebook posting. "My world is shattered."

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Um...not only is the guy saying the dead guy was a good guy, but your little graphic doesn't apply here. It wans't an "anonymous" comment, he posted it on Facebook with his real name account.

rocky_howard: Um...not only is the guy saying the dead guy was a good guy, but your little graphic doesn't apply here. It wans't an "anonymous" comment, he posted it on Facebook with his real name account.

Try again sparky, the implication is that the nice guy was nice in the real world, but not in the video game world that they're theorizing that the killer came from. The facebooking of the declaration that he's a good guy is unimportant.

quickdraw: Well no actually it is. Especially since your silly overused graphic is a logical fallacy which has been proved (unfortunately) by fb repeatedly where cyber bullying, with real names used, is commonplace. Nice people don't suddenly turn into dicks when they are anonymous. Dicks are dicks wherever they go.

Why do you assume that A+B+D = F precludes A+!B+C+D = F? Also, it's humor, not an absolute logical statement.

The point of the comic in this context, which I'm surprised I have to detail even further, is that a person being nice in the real world is potentially unrelated to them being nice in a virtual one. The reason the facebook is unimportant is that the person facebooking wasn't the victim. The virtual world in question as cited by the article is the victim playing games online with other people.


...Seriously, the only point here is "He's so nice!" in the real world is not necessarily indicative of anything in a virtual one.

Wanna hear another theory?

This David Grubbs was so upset about the lousy gameplay in Assassins Creed, that he went down onto that bikepath and in a fit of depression cut off his own head.

You killed another player in PVP zone, you loot $20, a pair of converse sneakers, pocket lint.

\first class please

It's a kind of magic.

Bith Set Me Up: It's a kind of magic.

Is there prize for solving the case?

mamoru: Was the victim's name Nick?



Well played.

quickdraw: Especially since your silly overused graphic is a logical fallacy which has been proved (unfortunately) by fb repeatedly where cyber bullying, with real names used, is commonplace. Nice people don't suddenly turn into dicks when they are anonymous. Dicks are dicks wherever they go.

Nice people don't "turn into" dicks. Nice people's inner dickishness is brought out by the state of decreased evaluation brought about by anonymity (new window).

Who did they think they were hiding it from. It's not like the Russians and Chinese don't have satellites.

/Hiding it from the taxpayers, obviously

Son of Thunder: Nice people don't "turn into" dicks. Nice people's inner dickishness is brought out by the state of decreased evaluation brought about by anonymity (new window).


My EVE corp is full of the nicest, most chill group of guys you'd ever spend time chatting with online via Teamspeak. Normal people with families and jobs. Completely goddamned evil in that game. Not because of any "decreased evaluation" horseshiat, because it's fun. Also a helluva way to get somebody not thinking straight, and maybe even bring back a poorly equipped posse. The upshots to being a dick in online gaming far outweigh whatever benefits come from being a Care Bear.

I know his name.

I nearly cut a guy's head off once, but I took an arrow to the knee.

"Hi, I'm candy"

/I know she is

I work in Ashland about a half mile from where he was killed.

This is a little town and random murders don't just happen. Everybody is pretty freaked out and the police have been pretty open with the fact that they have very little to go on and the little that they do is getting cold fast. The video game connection has been floated almost from the beginning. I doubt the cops really believe it but at this point it appears they are grasping at anything they can.

I didn't know the guy, but I have friends that worked with him. I guess he really was a 100% stand-up guy.

THERE CAN BE ONLY NONE!

OMG am I a bad person for laughing outrageously at that headline? Oh well.

This is why you never leave town without a boatload of healing potions and your housecarl. Although to be honest, I think my housecarl is suicidal.

NkThrasher: rocky_howard: Um...not only is the guy saying the dead guy was a good guy, but your little graphic doesn't apply here. It wans't an "anonymous" comment, he posted it on Facebook with his real name account.

Try again sparky, the implication is that the nice guy was nice in the real world, but not in the video game world that they're theorizing that the killer came from. The facebooking of the declaration that he's a good guy is unimportant.

I get what you're saying, that the victim being a nice guy in real life, doesn't preclude him being an asshat online. Unfortunately, you chose to depict it in the most obscure way possible because the statement from the article and the graphic you posted are unrelated unless you include the explanation you portray now.

BarbadoSlim: "Hi, I'm candy"

/I know she is

Yeah....despite the FARK headline, this looks more like the Kurgan's handiwork, IMHO.

Captain_Ballbeard: Wanna hear another theory?

This David Grubbs was so upset about the lousy gameplay in Assassins Creed, that he went down onto that bikepath and in a fit of depression cut off his own head.

What does "incompetent" mean?

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: This is why you never leave town without a boatload of healing potions and your housecarl. Although to be honest, I think my housecarl is suicidal.

not nearly as suicidal as your horse, i'd bet.

Captain_Ballbeard: The upshots to being a dick in online gaming far outweigh whatever benefits come from being a Care Bear.

This is what douche bags constantly tell themselves you know...

Just sayin'

/more flys with honey than vinegar

That's one nasty rage-quit.

Years ago I got into an online fight with a guy up in Kentucky. I live in Nashville. He was a shiatty player and I ended up killing him left and right in Resistance: Fall of Man.

Dude had a complete meltdown on headset. Said he'd come down this weekend and kick my fargin' ass.

I said "Ok motherfarger... here's my address. Come by around 3pm on Saturday... I'll be here!"

It was the address for the Scientology church on Music Row. Never did go down for the lulz and he never showed back up online.

"Until it's proven otherwise, I've got to believe this is someone who had some type of connection to the victim," said a city official.


Until it is proven otherwise I am going with, this theory

quickdraw: So lets see, An entire town filled with disgruntled wannabe Shakespearean actors, many of whom have had sword combat training to prepare for their roles and the cops are looking for some random crazed console gamer even though there was no indication that the victim had any such relationships online.

raggtopp: Captain_Ballbeard: The upshots to being a dick in online gaming far outweigh whatever benefits come from being a Care Bear.

This is what douche bags constantly tell themselves.

This ^

You my think of yourself as a "nice guy", but your actions prove otherwise. So, it tells me that you're hiding something from yourself, especially with a username that includes a reference to genitalia.

NkThrasher: To a man, those who knew him say Grubbs, who traversed the bike path to get to and from his job as a grocer each day, was as nice a guy as anyone, that he had no enemies, that no one who would want him dead.

"This couldn't have happened to a more innocent and genuinely wonderful human being," wrote Grubbs's best friend, Garrison Mau, in a recent Facebook posting. "My world is shattered."

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This is why I don't play UT2k4 (or any other game for that matter) online. Too many a-holes.

Tsar_Bomba1: Years ago I got into an online fight with a guy up in Kentucky. I live in Nashville. He was a shiatty player and I ended up killing him left and right in Resistance: Fall of Man.

Dude had a complete meltdown on headset. Said he'd come down this weekend and kick my fargin' ass.

I said "Ok motherfarger... here's my address. Come by around 3pm on Saturday... I'll be here!"

It was the address for the Scientology church on Music Row. Never did go down for the lulz and he never showed back up online.

Dude. Even I wouldn't send a person to a Scientology church. You're now responsible for the search and rescue operation.

There are roaming troops of neanderthal looking street people in Ashland, OR. Despite their "hippiness" I definitely got the feeling one needs to tread carefully around these folks last time I was there. I don't want to be elitist, but a lot of people who on the street have mental health problems. Furthermore they tend to hang out in the park there, where the victim was riding. The victim may have talked some shiat to one of them, farked a troop female, or just looked a little too clean cut. If I was investigating this I would interview some of these folks.

Hello FARK. Long time lurker, but this hits a little close to home so its CSB time.
Been friends with David for the 7 years we worked together.. Garrison is a really good friend and also my drummer. David was the real deal, one of the nicest dudes I have ever met. Would go out of his way to acknowledge you with a friendly or goofy gesture as we bumped into each other around the store. One night we came back from the bar down the street really late, and he crashed my couch. I woke up early the next morning and he had left already, but on the couch was the blanket neatly folded. Knowing him personally, I wouldn't say this was a trolling situation. I dunno about assassins creed, but from what I heard he could rip you a new one in MW2. Unfortunately I never got into consoles, always been a PC guy, so I never witnessed this.
I don't think it was connected with video games, word on the street is random people had been chased along the bike path by a 'ninja' for a week or 2 before the murder. Yes, farking ninjas in Ashland!