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(Village Voice) Ironic The music in Rick Perry's now famously mocked campaign ad? Yeah, it was a knock-off of composer Aaron Copeland, creator of some of the most iconic and beloved American music ever composed. Who was also Gay, Jewish, and a Communist supporter   (blogs.villagevoice.com) divider line 96
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2011-12-10 11:35:16 PM
And the only part that was listenable.
 
2011-12-10 11:59:23 PM
Perry is a self-parody. We already knew that.
 
2011-12-11 12:18:03 AM
Dumber and dumbest.

He's playing to his base.
 
2011-12-11 12:54:39 AM
The other 49 got off easy. Us poor Texans have been stuck with this crook ever since shrub handed him the job.
 
2011-12-11 12:56:52 AM
latimesblogs.latimes.com

First Santorum (new window, NSFW) chooses as a slogan a line similar to one from a poem by a gay communist (new window), now this...
 
2011-12-11 01:05:57 AM
Copland, not Copeland.
 
2011-12-11 02:22:30 AM
Jebus, Texans, what does it say when even the national Republican Party loonybins finds your governor too chucklefarking stupid?

Gods. Damn.
 
2011-12-11 02:24:45 AM
Years ago, the first time I heard Rush Limbaugh, and recognised "My City Was Gone," I was blinkered: I thought, does he honestly not know what that song's about? Or is it meant as a giant FU to Chrissy Hynde and her ilk?

I'd ask why butthead conservatives don't just write their own music, but I think I know the answer. As a friend of mind once said, "These guys are so white, they probably talk about The Powers That Are."
 
2011-12-11 02:25:06 AM
Who cares? You morons need to stop with these irrelevant, nonsensical issues. Your leader refuses to show us his birth certificate.
 
2011-12-11 02:26:27 AM
fruitfly.files.wordpress.com

Seems appropriate
 
2011-12-11 02:29:21 AM
lasercannon: [fruitfly.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

Seems appropriate


I suddenly wish this thread was voting-enabled.
 
2011-12-11 02:33:41 AM
When it comes to music, right-wingers' choices are pretty limited, as all they've got is Ted Nugent and Wagner.
 
2011-12-11 02:33:44 AM
ecmoRandomNumbers: Copland, not Copeland.

i218.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-11 02:37:47 AM
Dwight_Yeast: When it comes to music, right-wingers' choices are pretty limited, as all they've got is Ted Nugent and Wagner.

Apparently you missed the thread on the new Tea Party Rapper.
 
2011-12-11 02:42:30 AM
17,585 likes, 593,828 dislikes
 
2011-12-11 02:45:24 AM
lasercannon: [fruitfly.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

Seems appropriate


Heh. This sort of thing is what comes to mind every time I hear someone say,

"I'm a Republican, but I'm a REAGAN/GOLDWATER Republican! I don't go in for all that social conservative stuff."

or

"I'm a Republican, but I understand how badly this kind of bigotry has tarnished our image. I'm trying to change things from the inside!"

Look, guys, the old school Republican party ain't coming back. Saying that you represent some sort of moderate voice in the party is a bit like saying that you are a gay, black and Jewish Klansman. It doesn't work, and if you think it does, you need to have your head examined.
 
2011-12-11 02:47:07 AM
inb4 Pachelbel's Canon.
 
2011-12-11 02:49:21 AM
Sylvia_Bandersnatch: Years ago, the first time I heard Rush Limbaugh, and recognised "My City Was Gone," I was blinkered: I thought, does he honestly not know what that song's about? Or is it meant as a giant FU to Chrissy Hynde and her ilk?

I'd ask why butthead conservatives don't just write their own music, but I think I know the answer. As a friend of mind once said, "These guys are so white, they probably talk about The Powers That Are."


Apparently, this is his face every time he plays it as his theme song.

media.rhizome.org

Seriously, it is. (new window).
 
2011-12-11 02:53:03 AM
Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain
 
2011-12-11 02:53:28 AM
The Name: lasercannon: [fruitfly.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

Seems appropriate

Heh. This sort of thing is what comes to mind every time I hear someone say,

"I'm a Republican, but I'm a REAGAN/GOLDWATER Republican! I don't go in for all that social conservative stuff."

or

"I'm a Republican, but I understand how badly this kind of bigotry has tarnished our image. I'm trying to change things from the inside!"

Look, guys, the old school Republican party ain't coming back. Saying that you represent some sort of moderate voice in the party is a bit like saying that you are a gay, black and Jewish Klansman. It doesn't work, and if you think it does, you need to have your head examined.


Mostly, when people say that, what I hear is: "Well, I agree with all of this hateful and disastrous crap, but I don't want to be called on it". You know, personal responsibility.
 
2011-12-11 02:55:10 AM
We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain

See. You can have your Gay and eat it, too.
 
2011-12-11 02:56:21 AM
We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain

So, he should take his gay and jacket off?
 
2011-12-11 03:00:05 AM
A Dark Evil Omen: Mostly, when people say that, what I hear is: "Well, I agree with all of this hateful and disastrous crap, but I don't want to be called on it". You know, personal responsibility.

Yeah, there's that, too.
 
2011-12-11 03:16:31 AM
Even The Onion couldn't make this stuff up.
 
2011-12-11 03:28:41 AM
We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain

Yep. Put the two together & you've got comedy gold.
 
2011-12-11 03:43:26 AM
MisterTweak: The other 49 got off easy. Us poor Texans have been stuck with this crook ever since shrub handed him the job.

We all had to deal with shrub for 8 long years, and we are still dealing with the aftermath, even though we didn't elect him.
 
2011-12-11 03:54:53 AM
The funny thing to me is how clueless the people behind this ad are, that they aren't even likely aware of such things.

I remember, a few years back, reading an article by a guy who had infiltrated the white power/KKK movement and attended events around the country. At one point he went to a rally, which was for insiders only. It's main purpose was as a fundraiser and a big part of the money angle was an auction at the end. He mentioned how the guy MC'ing the auction talked about how them "jews" in Hollywood were ruining things so that decent folk couldn't even watch a movie anymore without getting some Jew or N***er thrown in their faces on-screen. He then proceeded to auction off a collection of movies starring Walter Matthau, Jack Lemon and Tony Curtis, several directed by Billy Wilder!

Let's face it, most bigots are ignoramuses, which is often why they are bigots in the first place.
 
2011-12-11 04:10:24 AM
We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain
i601.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-11 04:12:27 AM
Fabulous, Rick.

This ridiculous ad also compelled a couple members of GOProud to "out" one of Rick's campaign strategists, causing a rift between Andy Breitfart and GOProud.

Link (new window)

Don't worry, I'm not gonna link to Breitfart's site.

Link (new window)

I've said it once and I'll say it again. I understand how a gay person could be fiscally conservative, but why the f*ck would you want to be linked to a political party whose very platform calls you a second class citizen? That goes for both Fabrizio and GOProud.

Pot...meet ...kettle...etc.
 
2011-12-11 04:25:06 AM
LincolnLogolas: We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain

It's funny, I have a jacket just like that. I put it away (in the closet, ha ha) since this fiasco started. I was never worried about the Brokeback Mountain association, but I'll be farked if I want to be accidentally associated with Rick Perry.
 
2011-12-11 04:58:09 AM
All I know is Appalachain Spring is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever composed. Also fark Rick Perry.

/from texas. Didn't vote for that asshole.
 
2011-12-11 05:19:34 AM
KenShabby: LincolnLogolas: We're Gonna Die On Yopo: Also, he's wearing the jacket from Brokeback Mountain

It's funny, I have a jacket just like that. I put it away (in the closet, ha ha) since this fiasco started. I was never worried about the Brokeback Mountain association, but I'll be farked if I want to be accidentally associated with Rick Perry.


i601.photobucket.com

(aaaaand I'm done for the night)
 
2011-12-11 05:30:05 AM
You know, i usually feel depressed about the political direction my own country is following these days, what with being in africa and all, but all i have to do is go on the politics tab and read about some GOP mental monolith and it cheers me up for the rest of the day. Thank you, Republicans!
 
2011-12-11 06:20:43 AM
Obviously, you Farklibs are a bunch of godless comminazis who don't care about saving a pretzel for the gas jets. I hope you socialists are proud of yourselves.
 
2011-12-11 06:38:00 AM
Alright, so all we have to do is change the name of a Lucky Pierre to Lucky Perry.

Problem solved.
 
2011-12-11 06:52:27 AM
Herman Cain ran for president for the lulz. Rick Perry *is* the lulz.
 
2011-12-11 07:07:52 AM
cc_rider:
I've said it once and I'll say it again. I understand how a gay person could be fiscally conservative, but why the f*ck would you want to be linked to a political party whose very platform calls you a second class citizen?

When you have money, you can be gay and Conservative. Wealthy gays don't need to be on their partners' health care plans. They can protect their assets and status in a romantic partnership without actually being married. If they want to adopt, they'll find a way, money will grease those wheels. They are unlikely to be gay-bashed by a truckful of rednecks outside a bar in Julesburg, Nebraska at 1 am. Supporting the Republicans is their way of making sure they always have the money and power to live the way they want. And all those other poor queers can go fark themselves, apparently.

Money. The answer is always money.
 
2011-12-11 07:30:37 AM
Who was also Gay, Jewish, and a Communist supporter

So of the three, only being a communist protects him from being bashed and hated by liberals. Okay.
 
2011-12-11 07:31:14 AM
I love this notion that it's somehow become illegal to celebrate X-Mas, pray when you want.
I've had that one spouted at me many, many times.
 
2011-12-11 08:02:59 AM
randomjsa: Who was also Gay, Jewish, and a Communist supporter

So of the three, only being a communist protects him from being bashed and hated by liberals. Okay.


wat
 
2011-12-11 08:27:18 AM
So Perry does a commercial looking like he's walking off of Brokeback Mountain to the sound of worst Copland ripoff music since, well, whatever is the patriotic score John Williams wrote...

I just can't help suspecting that the people that put together the commercial were farking with Perry, and were laughing their collective asses off when the thing started running.

The next ad will feature Perry in a tutu and a fake Erasure song...
 
2011-12-11 08:53:16 AM
Well, of course, this would be obvious to anyone who has ever heard the Copland Portrait.

Copland a communist. Aaron Copland was a communist, and a Jewish man, but when he spoke of love, this is what he said...

/Unsurprisingly, there is a song called Copland Portrait. Sadly, it appears not to talk about how melancholy he was.
//Still prefer the Bach Portrait
 
2011-12-11 09:11:36 AM
Copland also supported the Communist Party.

oh, so he wasn't a communist then.
 
2011-12-11 09:21:26 AM
No Such Agency: cc_rider:
I've said it once and I'll say it again. I understand how a gay person could be fiscally conservative, but why the f*ck would you want to be linked to a political party whose very platform calls you a second class citizen?

When you have money, you can be gay and Conservative. Wealthy gays don't need to be on their partners' health care plans. They can protect their assets and status in a romantic partnership without actually being married. If they want to adopt, they'll find a way, money will grease those wheels. They are unlikely to be gay-bashed by a truckful of rednecks outside a bar in Julesburg, Nebraska at 1 am. Supporting the Republicans is their way of making sure they always have the money and power to live the way they want. And all those other poor queers can go fark themselves, apparently.

Money. The answer is always money.


To that, add the gilded ghetto that prosperous gay men frequently live in. A gay man living in San Francisco's Castro, Chicago's Boystown, Washington DC"s Dupont Circle or the analogues in other large cities lives in a very safe and prosperous neighborhood, in cities where the mayor marches in Pride parades and anti-discrimination laws have teeth. It's relatively easy to ignore the plight of gays in areas where the cristianista flag runs high.
 
2011-12-11 09:22:41 AM
Republicans have been off the reservation when it comes to music since Born in the USA was Regans theme song in 84(or 80?). Palin used Barracuda in the last election and all the royalty money the artist got was donated straight to Obama's campaign.
They can't really win.
 
2011-12-11 10:15:47 AM
Huh, I never knew that guy who played drums for The Police was Gay, Jewish & a Communist supporter?
 
2011-12-11 10:18:13 AM
The Name: lasercannon: [fruitfly.files.wordpress.com image 640x447]

Seems appropriate

Heh. This sort of thing is what comes to mind every time I hear someone say,

"I'm a Republican, but I'm a REAGAN/GOLDWATER Republican! I don't go in for all that social conservative stuff."

or

"I'm a Republican, but I understand how badly this kind of bigotry has tarnished our image. I'm trying to change things from the inside!"

Look, guys, the old school Republican party ain't coming back. Saying that you represent some sort of moderate voice in the party is a bit like saying that you are a gay, black and Jewish Klansman. It doesn't work, and if you think it does, you need to have your head examined.


I don't mean this disparagingly, but I'm guessing you're not very old. If you follow politics for, say, a few decades, you'll realise that the only constant is change. There was a time when the Democratic Party seemed irredeemably lost, too, but they've clearly gotten themselves back on track. They manage to keep their fringe nutters and true losers away from the centre of power. Disparate a group as they are ("I don't belong to an organised political party: I'm a Democrat."), the DLC has proven itself very effective at developing and maintaining core policy and delivering it where it needs to go. Love her or hate her, Pelosi was a very effective Speaker, and Democratic legislative leaders and whips continue to drive the kind of momentum that gets things done, and negotiate an increasingly obstructive Republican strategy. And what's most striking is that they manage to do all this without relying on evangelical playbook tactics that RNC leadership seems to depend on more and more, to their predictable and inevitable detriment.

I really do believe that Republicans CAN get the GOP back on track, but it's getting to be a bigger and bigger challenge. It might well take a new Reagan to do that. (And Perry, try as he might to style himself after the Gipper, is no Gipper. Even Ronnie was no Gipper, but at least he played the role convincingly, and even sincerely, while Perry is as transparently fake as a fibreglass Christmas tree.) Mostly, it will take a handful of older, highly experienced policy leaders who are courageous enough to stand up to the party's fringe elements. It's one thing to offer grudging respect for nutters, quite another to hand them the wheel. The Democrats went through a very painful period of pushing the crazies out towards the edges, and Republicans need to go through that, too.

And it's extremely important that this happens eventually. Only when both parties are strong, solid, and centred does the nation as a whole succeed. In many modern and very successful foreign countries (more than a few of which actually function better than ours), it's okay to have whole parties with odd or impractical ideas, because they have more parties, and so they have to compromise much more than our parties do. In a multi-party system like that, necessary compromise almost always defaults in the direction of a nation's central polity. At the best times, we do that, too, but it's far too easy for either major party to gain and hold enough power to ignore or defer centrist polity. In our system, the two major parties take turns having real majority control of one major organ of government or another, and that means that the other major party must be strong enough to provide an effective Opposition, in the interests of the nation as a whole, to force the kind of compromise that makes things actually work. (I don't for one second believe that any one party can actually govern on its own.) Lacking that, whichever party is in charge is sure to quickly fall to corruption and arrogance, to everyone's detriment.

I've voted for very few Republicans in the last couple decades, but I've often had to hold my nose voting for many of the Democrats I've helped elect, only because a worthwhile Republican contender did not appear. It's very often been a case of Tweedledum and Tweedledumber, and since one of those asses has to win, I cast my vote for the less stupid, compromised, or crazy of the choices. That's a raw deal for voters, and it leads to more voters sitting out elections in disgust, which only helps the losers get in and do more damage, especially to their own parties. It becomes a vicious cycle, with very predictable consequences.

What I want to see is Huntsman get angry, go have several late-night rounds of scotch with Mitch McConnell and few of other more sensible and realistic Republican stalwarts, and come up with a plan to save the party from itself. If the Democrats can do it, I'm sure the GOP can do it, and perhaps better, since if nothing else, the GOP is better at getting consensus.

My fear is that because in our democracy all power ultimately falls to the electorate, an electorate foolish enough to re-elect Bush Jr. might be capable of no limit of idiocy. If that's true, then it may not matter what either party's leadership does, in the long run. For now, though, I maintain hope.
 
2011-12-11 10:33:54 AM
I wonder if Copland will take this all the way to the Supreme Court. It would interesting to hear the opinions of Justice Montemayor and the 7other justices regarding this matter.
 
2011-12-11 10:39:29 AM
As the Harvard Political Review points out, the music that plays in the background of Perry's ad is inspired by or directly taken from Aaron Copland, a gay composer.

Well, which is it? Was it "inspired by, " or "taken directly from???" And how many people on this thread knew who the hell Aaron Copeland was before this article?

I am not defending the guy, or the ad, it just seems this article is stretching as much as RP's ad. My Weeners to this ad and it hasn't changed was "what the hell???" He certainly did not need to attack "gays in the military" to make his poing..
 
2011-12-11 10:52:16 AM
Stormfront is filled with "Inspirational" videos that are scored by Jewish homosexuals.

There is no reason to bother pointing it out to them. People believe what they want to believe.
 
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