CanisNoir: So they tell Huntsman to GTFO but wave Bachman right in? WTF??

Entertainment value. Huntsmen is less likely to say something amusing.

I just saw the Rick Perry "strong" video, which somehow I missed the first time around. And even though I know it's real, I kept thinking, That's not for real. That can't be real. That's a spoof, right?

cryinoutloud: I just saw the Rick Perry "strong" video, which somehow I missed the first time around. And even though I know it's real, I kept thinking, That's not for real. That can't be real. That's a spoof, right?

I thought SNL found a ringer, like they did with Palin. I can't even imagine a semi-competent election team agreeing to something like this.

RON PAUL is the only republican candidate worth a piss which is why he's been shut out of almost all the news coverage. I'm amazed he's been allowed at any of the debates because he stands head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates, not that that is a real challenge.

The scary part is that Newt Gingrich is looking more and more like the best candidate for them.

Though, I can't see how the GOP can consider themselves the "party of values" and then nominate someone as morally bankrupt as Gingrich. They can no longer claim the moral high ground that they've been claiming.

But Gingrich is one of the only candidates who is intelligent, well-spoken, and not a fundamentalist wacko. Well, there's RON PAUL, but he's too libertarian for the GOP.

GAT_00: Not even close. He's just the newest candidate of the moment in the eternal quest to vote for someone, anyone but Romney.

Well, it's hard to get excited about Romney. He's a guy who lacks charisma or personality. (Like Gore or Kerry or Dukakis.) He's sort of just been the frontrunner by default, because most of the other candidates are too fringey or nutty. Or both.

the custodial workers get hazard-pay after a debate where Santorum appears

It's an important religious holiday.

Dec 10 1993

Adolf Hitler is baptized into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in a ceremony performed inside their London temple. Mormons use this strange retroactive baptismal ritual to ensure ancestors or other relatives may join them in heaven.

-- (Per rotten)

shivashakti: GAT_00: Not even close. He's just the newest candidate of the moment in the eternal quest to vote for someone, anyone but Romney.

Well, it's hard to get excited about Romney. He's a guy who lacks charisma or personality. (Like Gore or Kerry or Dukakis.) He's sort of just been the frontrunner by default, because most of the other candidates are too fringey or nutty. Or both.

Well, in that field, being the least insane is a very good selling point. Remember, if you and a couple of buddies are running from an alligator, you don't have to outrun the gator, you just have to not be the slowest.

See, the problem is some entity other than the electorate is deciding who is a 'viable candidate.' That's the problem with the political party system.

Get rid of campaigns, get rid of parties. Candidates throw their hat in the ring, get a web page (probably in a standardized format, to make it easier to get to the meat) to talk about what they believe and what they'd like to do, they get a couple opportunities to debate with other candidates. Candidate pages are hosted by the level of government for which they're running (e.g. local, state, federal), debates moderated by the same. Debates get recorded and posted for viewing, maybe transcribed, linked to the candidate's page. It is then the citizen's duty to educate themselves about the candidates - relying on free internet access at a local library or city hall if they do not have access themselves - rather than being told by the media who's running, who's viable, who's a demon-farking baby killer.

Hopefully candidates would also start talking about what they personally believe, what they will fight for, rather than parroting what they think the electorate wants to hear just to get elected.

Mugato: That's cold. That's like a bouncer turning you away from a downtown strip club during Tuesday day shift.

I love this analogy!

Aaand. Huntsman is the least insane person in the asylum. But he's still insane.

The GOP pool of candidates is desensitizing us from the crazy!

GAT_00: shivashakti: The scary part is that Newt Gingrich is looking more and more like the best candidate for them.

Not even close. He's just the newest candidate of the moment in the eternal quest to vote for someone, anyone but Romney.

Agreed, mainly because Gingrich has a good chance of drawing the ire of Democrats who remember the shenanigans of the nineties. Motivating the opponent's base against you is bad. Honestly, Romney (or Paul/Huntsman, but lets be real) is the only candidate they have that won't rouse Dems thinking of staying home.

so, it's more talk radio talking points all night

shivashakti: But Gingrich is one of the only candidates who is intelligent, well-spoken, and not a fundamentalist wacko. Well, there's RON PAUL, but he's too libertarian for the GOP.

In what universe are Gingrich and Paul not fundamentalist whackos? I mean, okay - Gingrich is totally acting; he doesn't believe a bit of it. But whether pandering or sincere, the result is the same.

hubiestubert: I'm a Buddhist. Like I care which brand of Christianity any of them follow...

Lot of other Christians don't consider Mormons Christians.

Mormons don't consider ANY other Christians to be Christians.

If the flavor of the magical sky wizard is unimportant to you, this doesn't matter in any fashion. However, things are different for those who do.

Seriously, I hate Republicans, but that's just f*cking nuts.

The one chance to have any semblance of a moderate party.

Dwight_Yeast: hubiestubert: I'm a Buddhist. Like I care which brand of Christianity any of them follow...

Lot of other Christians don't consider Mormons Christians.

Mormons don't consider ANY other Christians to be Christians.

If the flavor of the magical sky wizard is unimportant to you, this doesn't matter in any fashion. However, things are different for those who do.

Translated for farkers.

People who don't drink don't care about what beer people drink.

But many beer drinkers care about brand, and some of them are snobs about it.

wraith95: GAT_00: shivashakti: The scary part is that Newt Gingrich is looking more and more like the best candidate for them.

Not even close. He's just the newest candidate of the moment in the eternal quest to vote for someone, anyone but Romney.

Agreed, mainly because Gingrich has a good chance of drawing the ire of Democrats who remember the shenanigans of the nineties. Motivating the opponent's base against you is bad. Honestly, Romney (or Paul/Huntsman, but lets be real) is the only candidate they have that won't rouse Dems thinking of staying home.

Right. The best chance the right has this cycle is playing BSRBSVR. That makes the campaign seem bland and will depress voter turnout which is good for the GOP. You can't do that with someone as personally grating as Newt.

12349876: People who don't drink don't care about what beer people drink.

But many beer drinkers care about brand, and some of them are snobs about it.

Or in this case, don't believe it's actually beer to begin with.

Damn it. I thought all this Republican idiots debate was over when the next President Newt(is his family line a Fish? or a Salamander?) said Palestine and it's people were make believe and Mr. Rogers shall be hunted down for Indoctrinating our childrens. That automatically tied up the Jewish vote and therefor means the U.S. shall now be called little israel, until it is fully wiped out over the next 60 years.

/farking Retardican Retard Fest.
//Would be nice if all those RightWingers would finally fall off of their flat world.

12349876: Dwight_Yeast: hubiestubert: I'm a Buddhist. Like I care which brand of Christianity any of them follow...

Lot of other Christians don't consider Mormons Christians.

Mormons don't consider ANY other Christians to be Christians.

If the flavor of the magical sky wizard is unimportant to you, this doesn't matter in any fashion. However, things are different for those who do.

Translated for farkers.

People who don't drink don't care about what beer people drink.

But many beer drinkers care about brand, and some of them are snobs about it.

Good analogy, except for one slight detail: beer is real.

History has been made on the Fark Politics Tab... Subby actually speaks the truth... First time EVER!!!

But actually, Huntsman is a pussy and is no more a credible candidate than Paul, Santorum and Bachmann..

It is more likely that Kim Kardashian gets a phD in structural engineering from Cal Tech than Jon Huntsman being the GOP nominee. Huntsman is too liberal even for the Democrats