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(PBS)   Study after study shows that conservatives are happier than liberals. Why do you suppose this is?   (pbs.org ) divider line 178
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2011-12-10 02:55:53 PM  
Ignorance is bliss?
 
2011-12-10 02:56:11 PM  
Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.
 
2011-12-10 02:57:45 PM  
Psychosis.
 
2011-12-10 02:58:09 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


Thus proving my point.
 
2011-12-10 02:58:51 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


^
 
2011-12-10 02:59:23 PM  

voltOhm: they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.


rob.nu
 
2011-12-10 03:03:07 PM  
Because...socialism?
 
2011-12-10 03:04:26 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

^


^ times many numbers
 
2011-12-10 03:06:26 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand done.

thread's over folks, pack it in and head out.
 
2011-12-10 03:06:27 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.

/Turn the lights off on your way out.
 
2011-12-10 03:19:01 PM  
Because we don't pretend to give a sh*t about every little thing.
 
2011-12-10 03:28:30 PM  
I don't think I'd be happy just assigning any 'I don't know' to a mystical sky pervert, but then again, I like thinking. Quite a few people don't, and they're more than happy to have someone tell them it's all about Jebus.
 
2011-12-10 03:36:03 PM  
Because they have their own reality. The rest of us have to live in this one.
 
2011-12-10 03:41:33 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


and we're done.
 
2011-12-10 03:41:47 PM  
 
2011-12-10 03:59:39 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


Lulz. Nice job, man.
 
2011-12-10 04:02:44 PM  
Because
...well, everyone is saying
It's been said....
Studies show that...
This is what I heard...
Sources say....
They're saying that....
According to popular opinion....
Our polls say....
 
2011-12-10 04:07:58 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


I blame it on the sleep of the just. But maybe that's just me, and better dating choices as of late...
 
2011-12-10 04:09:07 PM  
Happier? The angry hoards at Tea Party protests say otherwise.
 
2011-12-10 04:17:15 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.
 
2011-12-10 04:53:20 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


well. so much for what I was going to say.
 
2011-12-10 05:04:07 PM  

make me some tea: Thus proving my point.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-10 06:14:16 PM  
They're special

exiledonline.com
 
2011-12-10 06:22:01 PM  
So this is the one study that conservatives will listen to?
 
2011-12-10 06:36:27 PM  
Hah, they greened it. Nice.
 
2011-12-10 06:54:31 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance meth is bliss?


ftfy
 
2011-12-10 06:57:43 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.
 
2011-12-10 07:22:47 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


/thread
 
2011-12-10 07:24:10 PM  
+.5? Fascinating.
 
2011-12-10 07:26:52 PM  
Conservatives believe that they live in the best possible world.

Liberals think it can be better.
 
2011-12-10 07:27:00 PM  
Well, it is a lot easier to be happy when you don't give a fark about anyone or anything but yourself.
 
2011-12-10 07:28:27 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: So this is the one study that conservatives will listen to?


Came here to make this comment, but you said it much more concisely than I could have.
 
2011-12-10 07:31:02 PM  

voltOhm: they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us.


So god protects you from harm? How so? Doesn't disaster hit Christians too?
 
2011-12-10 07:31:11 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


If that hadn't been in the first three posts, I would have been VERY VERY ANGRY.
 
2011-12-10 07:31:41 PM  
Because "conservative" literally means that your position is to defend the current policy/tradition/whatever, and that would be a really odd position to take if you weren't more or less fine with said current conditions?

Whereas "liberal" is generally incorrectly conflated with "radical", meaning that you favor policies that are new in some way, which would likewise be an odd position to take if you were content with how things are going?

Just saying, I think there's some measure of the cause and effect being backward in the very question the analysis is asking, here. They just assume causation goes one way in explaining the correlation, which is sloppy science at best.

//Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.
//Going to forego the usual gripe about the actual meaning of "liberal" versus the colloquial usage and grudgingly accept that I knew what TFA meant when they used the word.
 
2011-12-10 07:32:05 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals Leftists believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


^^^THAT
 
2011-12-10 07:32:48 PM  
Every conservative person I've ever talked to acts like they hate everything around them, and are the most grumpy people to walk the earth. Therefore, TFA sucks.
 
2011-12-10 07:33:09 PM  

Dinki: voltOhm: they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

[rob.nu image 500x400]


Aha.. Ahaha.... HAHAA!!! HAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!! (gasp) AAHHHHHAAAHHAHAHAHAA!!!! (roommates come into bedroom thinking I've lost it. They read it too) HAHAHAHAAA!!!!x3
 
2011-12-10 07:33:25 PM  
Because Conservatives think, If I am happy now fark everyone else!!! Where liberals look about the future and other aspects of the world and are not just self involved assholes.
 
2011-12-10 07:34:40 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.
 
2011-12-10 07:35:44 PM  
If I could just dismiss nuance and say "poor people are poor becuase they're lazy and bad" "The US can do no wrong" "The Free Market Fixes Everything" and "Everyone who doesn't believe what I do is terrible" Oh and "Everyone but people like me is going to hell - god's chosen me" I'd be a whole lot happier too.

People who see reality generally um, aren't satisfied with it.
 
2011-12-10 07:38:27 PM  
Because they have a job.
 
2011-12-10 07:38:37 PM  

indylaw: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

Done in one.


if anything is wrong they can either blame something else, or say its a test...
 
2011-12-10 07:44:06 PM  
So this is where we post what we think about conservatives and liberals? I'll bite. Conservatives are generally hard working and liberals are allergic to hard work/bootstraps and want to redistribute everyone's hard work? Right? Right!?
 
2011-12-10 07:44:14 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Well, there goes my witty post.
 
2011-12-10 07:46:40 PM  
I'm going to have to go with, ignorance is bliss too. The vast majority of conservatives I have known are grossly misinformed on even the most banal topics beyond the shiny trinkets their corporate masters have provided for their addictions.
 
2011-12-10 07:47:46 PM  
Ooh, ooh! Is it because Libruls are worthless piles of garbage and they know it?
 
2011-12-10 07:48:11 PM  

voltOhm: Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


I think it's because liberals and DemocRat partyists know subconsciously that they're bound for hell. God wants to torment them on earth some before handing them over to Satan. Why? For the lulz, of course.

/I wrote this post mainly because I wanted to say "DemocRat."
 
2011-12-10 07:48:47 PM  
Study as reported leaves too much unanswered....

People who self report as Liberal or Conservative could mean any number of things and these might also influence their understanding of happiness.

"Rationalizing inequality" dosent mean anything except as a cheap shot at conservatives. A person who loses a limb and learns to cope with it is "rationalizing inequality."

It might be more accurate to suggest that the current usage of the term "liberal" has more to do with identity and victim politics than with the normal continuim of left to right ideology. Likewise, "conservative" more and more refers to a set of social norms than ideology.

Liberals can't admit they are happy as they would then have to lighten up and not be in a constant state of grievance. For them, being unhappy brings meaning to their lives.

Consrevatives cant admit they are unhappy as they would then have to admit being "bootstrappy" 24/7 dosent work any better than being angry at the man does in bringing meaning to your life.

Study still looks seriously flawed.
 
2011-12-10 07:49:27 PM  

delathi: Conservatives believe that they live in the best possible world.

Liberals think it can be better.


oh..wait.. I know.

liberals think that we need to "fix" everything and want to "help" everyone.

conservatives know that most things are not broke and that there are no free handouts in life.
 
2011-12-10 07:50:42 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


In other words, ignorant conservatives placate themselves with feel-good bullsh*t. Got it.

/not all Conservatives, just the ignorant ones. Like you, for an example.
 
2011-12-10 07:51:28 PM  
The "God has a Plan" people scare the crap outta me.

No joke.
 
2011-12-10 07:51:38 PM  

part of the problem: Study as reported leaves too much unanswered....

People who self report as Liberal or Conservative could mean any number of things and these might also influence their understanding of happiness.

"Rationalizing inequality" dosent mean anything except as a cheap shot at conservatives. A person who loses a limb and learns to cope with it is "rationalizing inequality."

It might be more accurate to suggest that the current usage of the term "liberal" has more to do with identity and victim politics than with the normal continuim of left to right ideology. Likewise, "conservative" more and more refers to a set of social norms than ideology.

Liberals can't admit they are happy as they would then have to lighten up and not be in a constant state of grievance. For them, being unhappy brings meaning to their lives.

Consrevatives cant admit they are unhappy as they would then have to admit being "bootstrappy" 24/7 dosent work any better than being angry at the man does in bringing meaning to your life.

Study still looks seriously flawed.


Good points, actually.
 
2011-12-10 07:52:02 PM  

MBrady: conservatives know that most things are not broke


OW! MY VOTER ID!
 
2011-12-10 07:52:58 PM  

MBrady: conservatives know that most things are not broke and that there are no free handouts in life prefer to have their heads in the sand.


FTFY
 
2011-12-10 07:54:14 PM  

part of the problem: Study as reported leaves too much unanswered....

People who self report as Liberal or Conservative could mean any number of things and these might also influence their understanding of happiness.

"Rationalizing inequality" dosent mean anything except as a cheap shot at conservatives. A person who loses a limb and learns to cope with it is "rationalizing inequality."

It might be more accurate to suggest that the current usage of the term "liberal" has more to do with identity and victim politics than with the normal continuim of left to right ideology. Likewise, "conservative" more and more refers to a set of social norms than ideology.

Liberals can't admit they are happy as they would then have to lighten up and not be in a constant state of grievance. For them, being unhappy brings meaning to their lives.

Consrevatives cant admit they are unhappy as they would then have to admit being "bootstrappy" 24/7 dosent work any better than being angry at the man does in bringing meaning to your life.

Study still looks seriously flawed.


You sir, win the rational well reasoned portion of the thread.

/goes back to continuing to be a lousy conservative
 
2011-12-10 07:54:25 PM  
Because gay also means happy and someone got confused?
 
2011-12-10 07:54:29 PM  

Jim_Callahan: Because "conservative" literally means that your position is to defend the current policy/tradition/whatever, and that would be a really odd position to take if you weren't more or less fine with said current conditions?

Whereas "liberal" is generally incorrectly conflated with "radical", meaning that you favor policies that are new in some way, which would likewise be an odd position to take if you were content with how things are going?

Just saying, I think there's some measure of the cause and effect being backward in the very question the analysis is asking, here. They just assume causation goes one way in explaining the correlation, which is sloppy science at best.

//Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.
//Going to forego the usual gripe about the actual meaning of "liberal" versus the colloquial usage and grudgingly accept that I knew what TFA meant when they used the word.


This. Thx Jim Couldn't have said it better. All of it.
 
2011-12-10 07:54:40 PM  
They compared liberal protesters to conservative think tank employees? I would guess one group is gainfully employed and the other is not. After which, they only got a difference of .5 on a 1-4 scale?

Methinks the methodology could use some work.
 
2011-12-10 07:56:05 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.


Trollololol.

Well played.
 
2011-12-10 07:56:28 PM  

Fista-Phobia: MBrady: conservatives know that most things are not broke

OW! MY VOTER ID!


I'd be pretty damn happy if I could delude myself into thinking voter id was the biggest problem in this world.
 
2011-12-10 07:57:07 PM  
potatoe?
 
2011-12-10 07:57:08 PM  
Life is nice when you make your own reality.
 
2011-12-10 07:57:50 PM  

part of the problem: "Rationalizing inequality" dosent mean anything except as a cheap shot at conservatives. A person who loses a limb and learns to cope with it is "rationalizing inequality."


Your post simultaneously argues that there is nothing wrong with rationalizing inequality, while claiming that the statement "conservatives rationalize inequality" is a cheap shot at conservatives.

You seem to be confused. Is rationalizing inequality good or bad? And if it's good, why is it a "cheap shot" to say conservatives rationalize inequality?

Keep in mind the definition of "rationalize" as you defend your incoherence:

Link (new window)
 
2011-12-10 07:59:22 PM  

Virulency: indylaw: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

Done in one.

if anything is wrong they can either blame something else, or say its a test...


That and a large group of them are evangelicals who have their religious escape hatch. Why worry about the sorry state of the planet when any minute they could get raptured and go play with Jesus?
 
2011-12-10 08:01:55 PM  

voltOhm: They are at the mercy of their superstitions.


First you say this. And then you say this:

voltOhm: we have a basic faith in humanity and God


LOL

And we're at the mercy of our superstitions? you people can't tie your shoes without asking Jesus for permission.
 
2011-12-10 08:05:26 PM  
Okay, maybe a little out of context, but it was the first thing I though of when I read the headline:

ALVY
(He moves up the sidewalk to a young trendy-looking couple, arms wrapped around each other)
You-you look like a really happy couple. Uh, uh ... are you?

YOUNG WOMAN
Yeah.

ALVY
Yeah! So ... so h-h-how do you account for it?

YOUNG WOMAN
Uh, I'm very shallow and empty and I have no ideas and nothing interesting to say.

YOUNG MAN
And I'm exactly the same way.

ALVY
I see. Well, that's very interesting. So you've managed to work out something, huh?

YOUNG MAN
Right.

YOUNG WOMAN
Yeah.

ALVY
Oh, well, thanks very much for talking to me.
 
2011-12-10 08:07:19 PM  
Because conservatives know they only helping hand they can count on is at the end of their arm, and they're good with that?

/If you hinge your happiness on outside factors the inevitable helplessness that you feel leads to depression.
 
2011-12-10 08:13:29 PM  
Because conservatives tend lie to themselves.
 
2011-12-10 08:18:36 PM  
Bugonarug: Points for insisting on proper verb usage and syntax agreement. Fark is a contact sport and I'll bring my helmet.

I'm looking at the study as a social scientist so I'm going very narrow on this.

I suggest it is a cheap shot because it's usage implies moral callousness. This is a fact not in evidence. It "might" be true, but seems a poor conclusion from the tiny data set given in the article.

Rationalizing inequality may be good (for example, if applied to yourself) or bad (if applied to moral wrong done to others) but the question was whether people were happy, not good.

Hypothetically....Given a large enough data set you might be able to establish that conservatives are evil and evil is correlated with happiness...but not here.
 
2011-12-10 08:19:49 PM  
No brain, no headache.
 
2011-12-10 08:19:51 PM  
It's hard to be happy when you're chronically being offended by the natural order of things.
 
2011-12-10 08:21:01 PM  
Because "fark you, I got mine" is a comforting ethos. Not right, but comforting.
 
2011-12-10 08:22:28 PM  

CheetahOlivetti: No brain, no headache.


Bill Frist disagrees.
 
2011-12-10 08:23:12 PM  

quoinguy: Because conservatives know they only helping hand they can count on is at the end of their arm, and they're good with that?

/If you hinge your happiness on outside factors the inevitable helplessness that you feel leads to depression.


Actually, a belief in a greater force controlling one's life rather than oneself controlling it (i.e, "helplessness", "faith") has been shown time and time again to increase happiness and is something of a meme in religious studies Link (new window). This helps the data make sense since, on the whole, conservatives tend to be more religious and spiritual than liberals. Therefore, they are generally happier.

On a personal level, I tend to agree with this theory as well. The happiest people I know in my life are religious conservatives. Liberals tend to be a mixed bag, ranging from pretty happy and cheerful people to bitter and cynical dicks. However, the hands-down most miserable and douchetastic borderline-sociopath assholes I know are almost always self-described libertarian conservatives (see also, 90% of FARK's right-wing trolls). They get the worst of both worlds: they lack both empathy AND faith.
 
2011-12-10 08:23:39 PM  
You could have fooled me, given the hateful rhetoric you hear their leaders use.
 
2011-12-10 08:27:54 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

www.threadbombing.com
You am a winner!

/And so quickly.
 
2011-12-10 08:29:12 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.

Although, it's hard to believe they are actually happier, given their miserable, hateful attitudes towards anything they don't understand, and how their miserable, hateful leaders act when they don't get their way
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2011-12-10 08:30:53 PM  

voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.


Really? Why are the conservative gun related sites filled with survival food supplies, storage systems, self defense and EOTW (End of The World) advice?

The "End Times" concept is almost entirely a conservative Christian culture in America.
 
2011-12-10 08:32:54 PM  

jcooli09: Because conservatives tend lie to themselves and everyone else.



/FTFY
 
2011-12-10 08:38:34 PM  
I'll also suggest the following:

Liberals have an easier time rationalizing actions

Conservatives have an easier time rationalizing situations
 
2011-12-10 08:38:43 PM  
There was a reason for coining the phrase "happier than a pig in sh*t."
 
2011-12-10 08:39:25 PM  
The problem with self-reporting is it doesn't always reflect the actuality of the situation. For instance, take some of the guys I work with. They come into a counseling session, reporting difficulties with irritability and anxiety. When I ask how tense they are, they usually report something low, like a 2 or a 3. The remarkable aspect is when they're saying this when every muscle in their neck and arms are clamped down, their shoulders are around their necks, and I can watch their teeth being ground down in real time from tension.

To put it bluntly, baseline happiness for these mental midgets is being thankful that there was some lube when they were forcibly sodomoized. Liberals dare to dream of a world where they don't have to suffer through it.
 
2011-12-10 08:41:40 PM  

SamFlagg: I'll also suggest the following:

Liberals have an easier time rationalizing actions

Conservatives have an easier time rationalizing situations


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Or they are stark raving mad.
 
2011-12-10 08:41:43 PM  
Done in one. We were all thinking it. Well, not the conservatives but you get it.
 
2011-12-10 08:46:16 PM  

cc_rider: Although, it's hard to believe they are actually happier, given their miserable, hateful attitudes towards anything they don't understand, and how their miserable, hateful leaders act when they don't get their way


Honestly, it's that sort of thing that makes them happy.
 
2011-12-10 08:47:02 PM  

thamike: SamFlagg: I'll also suggest the following:

Liberals have an easier time rationalizing actions

Conservatives have an easier time rationalizing situations

This is probably very close to the truth.

 
2011-12-10 08:47:31 PM  

Seabon: They compared liberal protesters to conservative think tank employees? I would guess one group is gainfully employed and the other is not. After which, they only got a difference of .5 on a 1-4 scale?

Methinks the methodology could use some work.


Where are you going to find employed liberal protesters to make an equivalent comparison?
 
2011-12-10 08:48:19 PM  
Also: it's interesting that none of the trolls have bothered to dispute my statement.
 
2011-12-10 08:50:50 PM  
Symptom of delusional thinking?

/but that would mean...
 
2011-12-10 08:51:16 PM  

make me some tea: Also: it's interesting that none of the trolls have bothered to dispute my statement.


I don't think they understand it.
 
2011-12-10 08:54:31 PM  
If only there were some old saying that could be quoted to sum this up. Something, for instance, relating ignorance and bliss.
 
2011-12-10 08:55:16 PM  
Liberals believe in striving for a better world, which can be intimidating, and improving the self, which can take a lot of time, and adjusting their opinions, which can be difficult. Conservatives already know they're right about everything.

To paraphrase a philosopher, I'd rather be a depressed man than a happy pig in shiat.
 
2011-12-10 08:58:10 PM  
If conservatives are so happy why are their hosts always bitter and angry?
 
2011-12-10 08:58:21 PM  
www.arnizachariassen.com
 
2011-12-10 08:58:29 PM  

Elmo Jones: make me some tea: Also: it's interesting that none of the trolls have bothered to dispute my statement.

I don't think they understand it.


Probably, yeah.
 
2011-12-10 08:58:57 PM  

sparkeyjames: jcooli09: Because conservatives tend lie to themselves and everyone else.


/FTFY


I started to say that, but reconsidered.

Conservatives have a tendency to believe what they're told by someone they see as an authority, so when they regurgitate it it isn't a lie to them.

The lie they tell themselves is that the voice is telling the truth, or that the truth is simple.

As I keep telling my children, there is a difference in being wrong and lying.
 
2011-12-10 09:00:21 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


I'll take that a step further and note that evil people enjoy being evil.
 
2011-12-10 09:01:09 PM  

Jim_Callahan: //Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.


Okay, I really have to ask...how the fark does that work??
 
2011-12-10 09:05:34 PM  

make me some tea: MBrady: conservatives liberals know that most things are not broke and that there are no free handouts in life prefer to have their heads in the sand.

FTFY


FTFY
 
2011-12-10 09:06:53 PM  
Here's what I figure:

Conservatives know that life isn't fair, and they're okay with that.

Liberals know that life isn't fair, and that pisses them off.

/at least that's how it is for me
 
2011-12-10 09:24:35 PM  
Because Jesus is going to come back any minute.

Who wouldn't be happy?
 
2011-12-10 09:26:44 PM  
rather, happier people are conservative
 
2011-12-10 09:37:50 PM  
Then why do conservatives spend all their time hating minorities and poor people? Is that what makes them happy?
 
2011-12-10 09:42:49 PM  

OgreMagi: Seabon: They compared liberal protesters to conservative think tank employees? I would guess one group is gainfully employed and the other is not. After which, they only got a difference of .5 on a 1-4 scale?

Methinks the methodology could use some work.

Where are you going to find employed liberal protesters to make an equivalent comparison?


You could try conservative protesters vs liberal protesters or conservative think tank employees vs liberal think tank employees. You could hold employment status constant in the study. You could do a lot if you weren't trying to half-fast a political point.
 
2011-12-10 09:45:31 PM  

Chameleon: Jim_Callahan: //Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.

Okay, I really have to ask...how the fark does that work??


Yeah, I heard a needle dragged across a record when I read that.

I assume it's, "I grew up with people who called themselves conservatives, and made fun of 'thosethe hippies.' So I've always called myself a conservative, just one who thinks all people should benefit from society, not just those on top, and maybe we should spend more on health and education than military etc."
 
2011-12-10 09:47:14 PM  
it's sort of unexpected, too. there's research in neuroscience that indicates positive affect is related to global and exploratory thinking, where negative affect is related to local and detail-oriented thinking.

Carver, 2003 (new window)

Then again, there's the whole regulatory argument, that a person's brain is constantly trying to move them to a state of neutral.

also, i'm not making much sense cause i'm a little drunked.
 
2011-12-10 09:47:47 PM  

Elmo Jones: Because "fark you, I got mine" is a comforting ethos. Not right, but comforting.


At least it's an ethos.
 
2011-12-10 09:53:20 PM  
images.wikia.com
 
2011-12-10 09:56:37 PM  
Sartre and the existentialists would say liberals feel the anguish of responsibility for their fellow man and aren't running from their freedom like conservatives are.
 
2011-12-10 09:59:38 PM  
No white guilt, don't feel like they are to blame for the rest of the populations condition, and Jesus
 
2011-12-10 10:00:13 PM  
Dostoevsky had it in the book - Letters from the Underground --

Stupid people are happy , smart people suffer

Smart people relive past failures thinking on how it could have gone different or what they could have done different and foresee future dangers . If things do go wrong they think of all the alternate things that the could have done . The question things and ponder if they are wrong ,

Stupid people chug along dumb as a bag of hammers with out the constant introspection or questioning . They blame others if things go wrong and do not have the capacity to reason if they maybe wrong or they might have the wrong information ,,
 
2011-12-10 10:00:50 PM  

El Pachuco: Chameleon: Jim_Callahan: //Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.

Okay, I really have to ask...how the fark does that work??

Yeah, I heard a needle dragged across a record when I read that.

I assume it's, "I grew up with people who called themselves conservatives, and made fun of 'thosethe hippies.' So I've always called myself a conservative, just one who thinks all people should benefit from society, not just those on top, and maybe we should spend more on health and education than military etc."


I would guess that he may be referring to the political compass meanings: He's socially conservative (and hence right-leaning), but at the same time all for social welfare (which he incorrectly labels as socialism)... which is how any real christian should be to begin with: Disapprove of the sin, but love the sinner (and be all about helping the poor).
 
2011-12-10 10:04:21 PM  
I know the ignorance has been dropped at the feet of the conservatives, but I have another idea.

Empathy. Liberal minded people generally care about others. Conservatives are "the fark you I got mine" mindset.

Example time:

Liberal and conservative eating a hamburger in a burger joint. They both look up to see a hungry kid peering in the window looking at them.

The liberal feels bad and gives the kid half his hamburger because he knows shared joy is halfed.

The conservative locks eyes with the kids and then over dramatizes every bit of the burger and how delicious it is. He then licking his sausage like fingers waddles past the starving kid and says "Get a job you hippy. Doesn't your school have a pre-school to work program!"
 
2011-12-10 10:05:55 PM  
JOY should be sorrow.

/Sorry Spider Robinson for misquoting ya.
 
2011-12-10 10:06:29 PM  
Liberals watch the Daily Show, conservatives listen to angry rants on AM radio and Fox.

Therefore, liberals hate laughing and conservatives love to be angry.
 
2011-12-10 10:17:18 PM  

duppy: "Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities."


No shiat, really?

Conservatives are the problem with society.
 
2011-12-10 10:28:36 PM  
Being self-centered pricks who screw over everyone else for their own gain makes people happy. Who would have thought?

People who see self-centered pricks screwing over everyone else and try to stop it, only to be screwed over because the self-centered pricks own all the money tend to be less satisfied with life.

Who would have thought?
 
2011-12-10 10:33:36 PM  
Anonymous gay sex while on meth does tend to produce happy conservatives.
 
2011-12-10 10:37:47 PM  
Is voltOhm a known conservatroll or something? Because when I read his post, it sounded exactly like good satire to me. The "no higher power" / "mercy of superstitions" juxtaposition was two bonus points.

And yet so many of you are biting.
 
2011-12-10 10:39:38 PM  

DemonEater: Is voltOhm a known conservatroll or something? Because when I read his post, it sounded exactly like good satire to me. The "no higher power" / "mercy of superstitions" juxtaposition was two bonus points.

And yet so many of you are biting.


Poe's law
 
2011-12-10 10:40:19 PM  
Because money really does buy happiness.

If I had enough money to destroy an economy and get off scott free I'd probably be happier too.
 
2011-12-10 10:41:38 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Being constantly in the wrong is depressing?
 
2011-12-10 10:42:06 PM  
Liberals tend to include a lot of typically disenfranchised or historically persecuted groups. Gays, blacks, women, Jews, Muslims, and Latinos are all typically on the side of liberals and the Democratic Party in the States and I can't imagine some of these groups are always all that happy.

An openly gay man or a blue collar Latino worker, for example, have probably not led as comfortable or as happy a life as your typical WASP.

I'm sure there are plenty of other nuanced reasons, but this one springs to mind.
 
2011-12-10 10:43:29 PM  

Wayne 985: Liberals tend to include a lot of typically disenfranchised or historically persecuted groups. Gays, blacks, women, Jews, Muslims, and Latinos are all typically on the side of liberals and the Democratic Party in the States and I can't imagine some of these groups are always all that happy.

An openly gay man or a blue collar Latino worker, for example, have probably not led as comfortable or as happy a life as your typical heterosexual WASP.

I'm sure there are plenty of other nuanced reasons, but this one springs to mind.



There we go. I wish there were an "edit" button.
 
2011-12-10 10:51:49 PM  

make me some tea: cc_rider: Although, it's hard to believe they are actually happier, given their miserable, hateful attitudes towards anything they don't understand, and how their miserable, hateful leaders act when they don't get their way

Honestly, it's that sort of thing that makes them happy.


I'm afraid you may be right. I just now read a couple posts in my local rag's website in which a person who has previously stated that Michele Bachmann would make a good president, just compared Obama to Hitler, Stalin, and Lenin.

I shiat you not.

I haz a sad for humanity. :/
 
2011-12-10 10:54:38 PM  

Virulency: indylaw: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

Done in one.

if anything is wrong they can either blame something else, or say its a test...


Absolutely; the world is as good as it can be; anything wrong is due to foreigners/nonbelievers/liberals, and if something they say is stupid/hateful/ignorant they protest that people "don't have a sense of humor."

But basically yeah, d1 in 1.
 
2011-12-10 10:56:44 PM  

Chameleon: Jim_Callahan: //Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.

Okay, I really have to ask...how the fark does that work??


I'm a big supporter of the co-op movement, which is essentially the local, voluntary version of communism (i.e. the one that actually usually works instead of failing spectacularly), and various social programs and pooled-resource schemes at the national level. Thus, socialist.

I'm conservative in that I err on the side of preferring the way things are done currently over trying something new unless the current method is demonstrably a total failure or the reasoning behind the change is exceptionally compelling in some way.

On various specific policy issues I tend to lean right more often than left. I'm more or less OK with our aggressive international policy when it's executed properly, favor relaxed gun control, am against the various censorship proposals that pop up mostly from the left end of US politics, have no problem with regulations largely favoring industry in general (though specific things the GOP has done, like trying to neuter the EPA, are still retarded), think illegal immigrants can go fark themselves (in general, my specific positions are a bit more nuanced).

None of it really conflicts, especially since the fact that I fall right of center is kind of an average effect rather than a hard and fast rule and I have some positions that are straight-up off the left end of the scale as well (abolishing prohibition, single-payer health care, etc). I'm also a Rochdale (i.e. "hey, let's try this, I bet it gives our company/product a competitive advantage") socialist, not a Marx (i.e. BURN THE RICH AND EDUCATED WE DONT NEED NO STINKIN ELITIST biatchES BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD) socialist, so that helps too.
 
2011-12-10 10:59:20 PM  

James F. Campbell: duppy: "Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities."

No shiat, really?

Conservatives are the problem with society.


You're oversimplifying but you got the right point. Progress in culture occurs in fits and starts. It takes time for concepts such as acceptance of difference religions/races/sexual preferences/hair length/music can percolate into societies. Conservatives traditionally fight it; progressives traditionally push it via the courts/protests/coups/etc. This is the way nature, history and even science gets done.

I forget which scientist/physicist/biologist remarked that new truths don't usually get accepted via their cogency, just that the old guard of politicians/scientists who resist them die off.
 
2011-12-10 11:06:46 PM  

Flaming Yawn:
You're oversimplifying but you got the right point. Progress in culture occurs in fits and starts. It takes time for concepts such as acceptance of difference religions/races/sexual preferences/hair length/music can percolate into societies. Conservatives traditionally fight it; progressives traditionally push it via the courts/protests/coups/etc. This is the way nature, history and even science gets done.


To be fair, presenting it as a universally good thing is pretty grossly misleading. The progressives winning out with their newfangled fascism thing in the face of those outdated, conservative constitutional parliamentarians didn't go so well in the first part of the century, nor did the flat-out populist takeover of the triumverate against the protests of the conservative "representative democracy" fools in ancient Rome really end in a stunning victory for civil rights.

The new, ostensibly populist idea isn't always the better idea. Now, I'd agree that in general the specific conflict between the US religious right and other groups best summarized as "the sane people" is a pretty clear case of evil versus good, but assuming any change is good change in general is a trap and you shouldn't fall for it.
 
2011-12-10 11:10:36 PM  

make me some tea: voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.

Thus proving my point.


You made no point except to stereotype and condescend. I love how liberals condescend to the industrious while wallowing in mediocrity (at best.) "Hi, I've done nothing with my life so please get sucked into my vortex of negativity!"
 
2011-12-10 11:21:02 PM  
And do you know who else was a happy conservative?

/Ah, fark it.
//make me some tea did it better.
 
2011-12-10 11:24:55 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


I'm going to pretend the hundreds of comments in this thread are all THIS.
 
2011-12-10 11:25:57 PM  

CorporatePerson: Then why do conservatives spend all their time hating minorities and poor people? Is that what makes them happy?


I guess Hitler was a very joyous person, and Stalin must have been having orgasms every five minutes.
 
2011-12-10 11:27:47 PM  
The conservatives are happiest when they are shiatting their pants in fear of things. So yeah, they're pretty much happy 24/7 with Obama in the White House.
 
2011-12-10 11:30:32 PM  
"Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives," the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, "apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light."

Is it just me or is there not an ironic equivocation being made here between inequality and inequity, all in the interest of impartial "rationalizing" of conservative rationalizations of inequity.
 
2011-12-10 11:32:25 PM  
many white liberals are just plain terrified of life. many feel like they have no control over their lives, and anyone who thinks they do have control are fooling themselves. this is why they are so intent on subordinating themselves and everyone else to a utopian government that will make everything alright and care for them. I've seen pew research that showed that poor white republicans and independents were much more optimistic about their future prospects than poor white liberals and generally all independents and republicans more often believe that they can succeed if they put forth effort than democrats do. of course your belief that you can change your circumstances and succeed if you try surely has an effect on your ability to actually succeed. liberals are just not as well adjusted to life as everyone else, relatively speaking. fear is literally driving most of your politics.it's why you vote the way you do.

the question should be what is wrong with white liberals. why are they so scared all the time.
 
2011-12-10 11:33:15 PM  
Maybe a feeling of contentment in your place in the world and the feeling that others are where they should be through their own volition or fate is responsible for the feeling of happiness. Maybe that tends to make you feel that change would be bad, ergo likely to hold conservative views.
 
2011-12-10 11:40:35 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

I'm going to pretend the hundreds of comments in this thread are all THIS.


times a googolplex
 
2011-12-10 11:42:37 PM  

relcec: many white liberals conservatives are just plain terrified of life. many feel like they have no control over their lives, and anyone who thinks they do have control are fooling themselves. this is why they are so intent on subordinating themselves and everyone else to a utopian an authoritarian government that will make everything alright and care for them protect them from the scary homos and muslins. I've seen pew research that showed that poor white republicans and independents were much more optimistic about their future prospects than poor white liberals and generally all independents and republicans more often believe that they can succeed if they put forth effort than democrats do Fox news viewers are some of the least informed people in the country. of course your belief that you can change your circumstances and succeed if you try surely has an effect on your ability to actually succeed. liberals conservatives are just not as well adjusted to life as everyone else, relatively speaking. fear of gay people, religions other than christianity, sustainable taxes, and science is literally driving most of your politics.it's why you vote the way you do.

the question should be what is wrong with white liberals conservatives. why are they so scared all the time?.


nice projection. fixed that for ya.
 
2011-12-10 11:44:45 PM  
zojojojo.files.wordpress.com

Hmmm, maybe it's because we liberals know that "conservatives*" are the direct cause of so much suffering and horror in the world?

*conservatives in any country-- typified by greediness, selfishness, short-sightedness, xenophobia/tribal hate, jingoism, etc etc.

Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative
 
2011-12-10 11:50:51 PM  

Friction8r: You made no point except to stereotype and condescend. I love how liberals condescend to the industrious while wallowing in mediocrity (at best.) "Hi, I've done nothing with my life so please get sucked into my vortex of negativity!"


I'm not entirely sure whether you're talking to me or the other guy. I'll assume the other guy because it fits better.
 
2011-12-10 11:53:05 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Liberals are cursed (new window)
 
2011-12-10 11:53:41 PM  

Primum: [zojojojo.files.wordpress.com image 600x409]

Hmmm, maybe it's because we liberals know that "conservatives*" are the direct cause of so much suffering and horror in the world?

*conservatives in any country-- typified by greediness, selfishness, short-sightedness, xenophobia/tribal hate, jingoism, etc etc.

Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative


Yeah Obama's a real monster like the other 3. Maybe you should go punch a pillow or something, dude.
 
2011-12-10 11:56:07 PM  

Primum:
Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative


Naziism and Stalinist Communism were both initially radical populist movements that displaced the entire existing system of government and murdered most of it. If you're calling them "conservative" I'm not sure you know what the word means. Even if you're (stupidly) conflating liberal and conservative with left and right, Stalin was way the hell on the left end and Hitler/Mussolini way the hell on the right. In fact, that's most of what defines the scale.
 
2011-12-10 11:59:44 PM  
Conservatives believe this is the best of all possible worlds.

Liberals fear this might be true.
 
2011-12-10 11:59:52 PM  

relcec: many white liberals are just plain terrified of life. many feel like they have no control over their lives, and anyone who thinks they do have control are fooling themselves. this is why they are so intent on subordinating themselves and everyone else to a utopian government that will make everything alright and care for them. I've seen pew research that showed that poor white republicans and independents were much more optimistic about their future prospects than poor white liberals and generally all independents and republicans more often believe that they can succeed if they put forth effort than democrats do. of course your belief that you can change your circumstances and succeed if you try surely has an effect on your ability to actually succeed. liberals are just not as well adjusted to life as everyone else, relatively speaking. fear is literally driving most of your politics.it's why you vote the way you do.

the question should be what is wrong with white liberals. why are they so scared all the time.


Were you aware that, in composing that eloquent and insightful post, you perfectly described WHIDBEY?
 
2011-12-11 12:15:00 AM  
I love it when trolls find the comfort in other trolls.
 
2011-12-11 12:17:36 AM  
Duh
 
2011-12-11 12:18:30 AM  

Altair: Sartre and the existentialists would say liberals feel the anguish of responsibility for their fellow man and aren't running from their freedom like conservatives are.


Only philosophy majors give a shiat about what an existentialist says. But it's philosophy majors biatching about not being able to find a decent paying job to pay off their student loans.
 
2011-12-11 12:19:05 AM  
Sure, conservatives are totally happy.

Until someone decides they want to change the one-dimensional jelly-jar world they want us all to live in with them.
 
2011-12-11 12:20:10 AM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Other then THIS the difference between the two groups is only 1/2 a point...not a real big deal statistically. Plus your comparing apples and oranges when you compare out of work/underpaid people (OWS protesters) and a conservative think-tank that is, ironically, a non-profit origination who main goal is to promote capitalism. Your findings would be more believable if you just polled a random sampling of "main street America" who identify themselves as either conservatives or liberal.
 
2011-12-11 12:20:42 AM  

edmo: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

Liberals are cursed (new window)


Written by an evolutionary psychologist, so as much based in science as his field. Meaning not at all.
 
2011-12-11 12:24:50 AM  

jjorsett: make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?

Being constantly in the wrong is depressing?


it's pudding day
 
2011-12-11 12:52:52 AM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Done in one.
 
2011-12-11 01:09:01 AM  
If everything I believed in was a demonstrated failure then I wouldn't be happy either.

I'd like to live in a world where what liberals believe is realistic but then again I'd also like to live in a world with some kind of just higher power that really does try to look out for us and there was a happier place to look forward to when I die.
 
2011-12-11 01:39:00 AM  

CheetahOlivetti: No brain, no headache.


Tell that to Bachmann.
 
2011-12-11 01:44:01 AM  
because they like reading websites that reinforce their opinions rather than troll them into reactionary indignance cathartically in chorus?
 
2011-12-11 01:49:00 AM  

randomjsa: If everything I believed in was a demonstrated failure then I wouldn't be happy either.


Well everything you believe in IS a demonstrated failure, so this explains your need to cry about everything that hurts your butt.
 
2011-12-11 01:49:14 AM  

dennysgod: Other then THIS the difference between the two groups is only 1/2 a point...not a real big deal statistically. Plus your comparing apples and oranges when you compare out of work/underpaid people (OWS protesters) and a conservative think-tank that is, ironically, a non-profit origination who main goal is to promote capitalism. Your findings would be more believable if you just polled a random sampling of "main street America" who identify themselves as either conservatives or liberal.


The video was comparing AEI employees with OWS protesters, and yes that is apples and oranges but it makes for a simplistic report, but the study they are citing is indeed scientific.
 
2011-12-11 02:26:45 AM  
Dumb people want to fit in and conform, please their betters and fight against the "other". The equation to satisfy drones is a simple one.
 
2011-12-11 02:51:27 AM  
This is fundamentally why conservatives are "happier":

www.performanceboats.com
 
2011-12-11 03:12:10 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: Dumb people want to fit in and conform, please their betters and fight against the "other". The equation to satisfy drones is a simple one.


Are you referring to the circle jerk in the thread?
 
2011-12-11 04:33:01 AM  
It's also been found there is a strong positive correlation between IQ and the amount of alcohol someone drinks. I'll bet there is a common reason for these phenomena. What could it be?
 
2011-12-11 05:05:46 AM  
That's bullshiat. Conservatives will never know the joys of weed. THAT is true joy.
 
2011-12-11 05:16:27 AM  

SamFlagg: Phil Moskowitz: Dumb people want to fit in and conform, please their betters and fight against the "other". The equation to satisfy drones is a simple one.

Are you referring to the circle jerk in the thread?


Yeah, wait wait! Which side is the dumb conformists peer pressure drones? I can't tell anymore.
I hate you all, and I'm pretty farking happy about it. Also I love you all and it makes me sad.
I'm so confused.
 
2011-12-11 06:32:58 AM  
conservatives don't wear panties, and therefore can't get them in a bunch every time it turns out that the world is a tough place for most people...
 
2011-12-11 07:10:02 AM  

proteus_b: conservatives don't wear panties, and therefore can't get them in a bunch every time it turns out that the world is a tough place for most people...


Yeah, if there's anything we've learned about conservatives, it's that they don't get their panties in a bunch about anything, ever.

Jesus Christ, buddy. You gotta stop by the planet more often or risk losing touch.
 
2011-12-11 07:33:53 AM  
make me some tea 2011-12-10 02:58:09 PM
voltOhm: Because liberals believe the world is out of resources, that the world is gonna die, that we're going to run out of water and we'll have to start eating each other. They don't trust humanity to take care of itself and they believe we are on our own in the universe with no higher power watching out for us. No wonder they are hopeless. They are at the mercy of their superstitions.

Conservatives know none of these things are true, and we have a basic faith in humanity and God. Life is good as long as you work to make it so.

Thus proving my point.


Done in one.

Corked off in four.
 
2011-12-11 08:46:43 AM  
Conservatives have congressional authorization to fap to any image of Bo Derek.
 
2011-12-11 08:47:56 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: Jesus Christ, buddy. You gotta stop by the planet more often or risk losing touch.


i try to make an argument for not wearing panties and you are worried about details like verisimillitude?
 
2011-12-11 09:07:34 AM  

whidbey: Primum: [zojojojo.files.wordpress.com image 600x409]

Hmmm, maybe it's because we liberals know that "conservatives*" are the direct cause of so much suffering and horror in the world?

*conservatives in any country-- typified by greediness, selfishness, short-sightedness, xenophobia/tribal hate, jingoism, etc etc.

Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative

Yeah Obama's a real monster like the other 3. Maybe you should go punch a pillow or something, dude.


if bush belongs obama belongs. and i would say that neither of them belongs. i mean, they are both clearly evil, but it just aint the same scale.
 
2011-12-11 11:16:49 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Because "conservative" literally means that your position is to defend the current policy/tradition/whatever, and that would be a really odd position to take if you weren't more or less fine with said current conditions?

Whereas "liberal" is generally incorrectly conflated with "radical", meaning that you favor policies that are new in some way, which would likewise be an odd position to take if you were content with how things are going?

Just saying, I think there's some measure of the cause and effect being backward in the very question the analysis is asking, here. They just assume causation goes one way in explaining the correlation, which is sloppy science at best.

//Conservative, right-leaning socialist, if anyone hasn't picked up on that from my bad habit of regularly posting around here.
//Going to forego the usual gripe about the actual meaning of "liberal" versus the colloquial usage and grudgingly accept that I knew what TFA meant when they used the word.


Nice post, now go back to the bar.
 
2011-12-11 11:41:36 AM  

Seabon: They compared liberal protesters to conservative think tank employees? I would guess one group is gainfully employed and the other is not. After which, they only got a difference of .5 on a 1-4 scale?

Methinks the methodology could use some work.


This.

Had they sampled University professors on one hand and unemployed tea-partiers at Freedom rallies the results would be almost mirror-image skewed.

/Except there would have been more hateful invective rather than mournful longing on the "sad" end and a possible uptick in brandished weapons.
 
2011-12-11 01:07:04 PM  
"I have found you can find happiness in slavery"
 
2011-12-11 01:54:21 PM  

Ned Stark: whidbey: Primum: [zojojojo.files.wordpress.com image 600x409]

Hmmm, maybe it's because we liberals know that "conservatives*" are the direct cause of so much suffering and horror in the world?

*conservatives in any country-- typified by greediness, selfishness, short-sightedness, xenophobia/tribal hate, jingoism, etc etc.

Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative

Yeah Obama's a real monster like the other 3. Maybe you should go punch a pillow or something, dude.

if bush belongs obama belongs. and i would say that neither of them belongs. i mean, they are both clearly evil, but it just aint the same scale.


Obama is "evil" to you?
 
2011-12-11 08:58:43 PM  

whidbey: Ned Stark: whidbey: Primum: [zojojojo.files.wordpress.com image 600x409]

Hmmm, maybe it's because we liberals know that "conservatives*" are the direct cause of so much suffering and horror in the world?

*conservatives in any country-- typified by greediness, selfishness, short-sightedness, xenophobia/tribal hate, jingoism, etc etc.

Hitler-- conservative
Stalin-- conservative
Bush-- conservative
Obama-- conservative

Yeah Obama's a real monster like the other 3. Maybe you should go punch a pillow or something, dude.

if bush belongs obama belongs. and i would say that neither of them belongs. i mean, they are both clearly evil, but it just aint the same scale.

Obama is "evil" to you?


a really passionless bureaucratic flavor of it, but yes.
 
2011-12-11 10:49:55 PM  

make me some tea: Ignorance is bliss?


Came for this; delighted to see it was the first thing posted.
Thread over.
 
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