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(Slate) PSA With the Euro in crisis, America splitting along class lines thanks to Occupy and the GOP debates, and countless other crises, it's time to focus on a more serious problem: FACEBOOK IS HIDING YOUR MAIL   (slate.com) divider line 58
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2011-12-10 11:59:49 AM
Facebook drama is self inflicted drama.
 
2011-12-10 12:43:06 PM
It's not hiding your email. It has a second message folder called "Other" that people have been to lazy to check or open. (Read this on six hours before it got to Fark.)

/still no cure for cancer
 
2011-12-10 12:45:06 PM
I saw the tents for Occupy Columbus. Both of them, along with some other kitchen tent thing.

Represent.
 
2011-12-10 12:45:41 PM
You know, maybe I missed it when they rolled it out, but I had no idea the "Other" folder existed. I feel like if FB was going to make such a significant change to their mail system they should have done a better job explaining it.
 
2011-12-10 12:46:38 PM
Blaming the Occupy folks for class conflict is like blaming a canary for the toxic fumes in your coal mine.
 
2011-12-10 12:46:43 PM
Knight without armor: It's not hiding your email. It has a second message folder called "Other" that people have been to lazy to check or open. (Read this on six hours before it got to Fark.)

/still no cure for cancer


Not a case of being lazy - people had no idea that "Other" was even there. You had to click on "Messages" to find it. It just happened with no notice at all.

I found out about it three weeks ago, and lo and behold there was a message from my daughter who doesn't want to actually friend me ;)
 
2011-12-10 12:49:57 PM
ronaprhys: I saw the tents for Occupy Columbus. Both of them, along with some other kitchen tent thing.

Represent.


You... ronaprhys, somehow I don't believe you... now you better try it again, because if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a man who is untruthful. If there's one thing that disgusts me, it's a man who can't admit he was wrong... you disgust me,ronaprhys, , you wanna know why you disgust me... because you are a bleeder, you bleed too much... you're a messy bleeder. You're weak, you got no endurance for pain.... You'll be fine... you're going to be fine... you know why? Because I like you.

Get this piece of sh%t coward out of here.
 
2011-12-10 12:51:11 PM
Meh. I get new message alerts sent to my actual email so I don't have to log in to Crapbook all the time. Found out about this a few weeks ago and checked the "Other" folder and it was all the spammy messages about events I didn't care about and other useless crap... which I had already gotten in my email.
 
2011-12-10 12:52:15 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: ronaprhys: I saw the tents for Occupy Columbus. Both of them, along with some other kitchen tent thing.

Represent.

You... ronaprhys, somehow I don't believe you... now you better try it again, because if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a man who is untruthful. If there's one thing that disgusts me, it's a man who can't admit he was wrong... you disgust me,ronaprhys, , you wanna know why you disgust me... because you are a bleeder, you bleed too much... you're a messy bleeder. You're weak, you got no endurance for pain.... You'll be fine... you're going to be fine... you know why? Because I like you.

Get this piece of sh%t coward out of here.


I'm guessing that if I was cooler, I'd have some idea where that came from. But I'm not.

And honestly, I don't care.
 
2011-12-10 12:59:16 PM
i am involved in our local occupy group, here in nw ohio, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

: )
 
2011-12-10 01:01:46 PM
It used to take several days to get mail and WE LIKED IT!
 
2011-12-10 01:02:43 PM
26.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-12-10 01:04:32 PM
badhatharry: It used to take several days to get mail and WE LIKED IT!

yes.
 
2011-12-10 01:05:44 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: ronaprhys: I saw the tents for Occupy Columbus. Both of them, along with some other kitchen tent thing.

Represent.

You... ronaprhys, somehow I don't believe you... now you better try it again, because if there's one thing I can't stand, it's a man who is untruthful. If there's one thing that disgusts me, it's a man who can't admit he was wrong... you disgust me,ronaprhys, , you wanna know why you disgust me... because you are a bleeder, you bleed too much... you're a messy bleeder. You're weak, you got no endurance for pain.... You'll be fine... you're going to be fine... you know why? Because I like you.

Get this piece of sh%t coward out of here.


i lol'd.
 
2011-12-10 01:06:26 PM
Bauer

Thank you for the Road House love
 
2011-12-10 01:13:00 PM
The only astonishing thing about this story is how people still see Facebook as a legitimate means of communication.
 
2011-12-10 01:13:27 PM
And this is why I still have a career in IT. There is never any shortage of people too stupid or lazy to figure simple things out for themselves.
 
2011-12-10 01:14:42 PM
Bauer: i am involved in our local occupy group, here in nw ohio, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

: )


I'm pleasantly surprised to see Ohio getting on board with Occupy. Peace and Solidarity from Seattle.
 
2011-12-10 01:24:57 PM
A facebook mail crashing your Outlook is just another proof of the total crappiness of any Microsoft product!!
Happens to everybody all the time.
Microsoft: Crickets... (Wants you to BUY yet another upgrade, called Windows8 this time...)
 
2011-12-10 01:26:43 PM
Knight without armor: It's not hiding your email. It has a second message folder called "Other" that people have been to lazy to check or open. (Read this on six hours before it got to Fark.

I've read this sometime last week, when it was still underground.

/not getting my mail through freaking Facebook.
 
2011-12-10 01:27:14 PM
So Facebook rants on Slate get printed (online)? Shiat....I need to start writing useless junk. A brotha's gotta get paid.
 
2011-12-10 01:27:47 PM
Pharque-it: A facebook mail crashing your Outlook is just another proof of the total crappiness of any Microsoft product!!
Happens to everybody all the time.
Microsoft: Crickets... (Wants you to BUY yet another upgrade, called Windows8 this time...)


What.
 
2011-12-10 01:29:02 PM
The My Little Pony Killer: Bauer: i am involved in our local occupy group, here in nw ohio, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

: )

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Ohio getting on board with Occupy. Peace and Solidarity from Seattle.


Tell me you've got more than two tents and a communal tent-room.
 
2011-12-10 01:34:54 PM
Well I of course didn't know about the "other" box and it's basically just facebook creating a spam box for events and such. Though I did get one fascinating email from a few months ago...

My name is ____, am single I am new to this type of atmosphere in meeting people, I have only been a member for a couple days and I just wanted to know where this will lead to.I enjoyedreading your profile and you are a very Handsome Guy!! I would like to get to know you better. If you are serious about the type of Woman you are looking for, please take the time to get to know me.I don't care about the Age or Distance cos I believe that when it is time for the Meeting I don't care about relocating, and I will Like to know More about a man Like you may be you are the Antel Sent down from God... I will be Glad to hear back from you and Know more about you.. I do have lots of Pics to share with you But I don't like double dating and I don't like staying on the Website that Much So I will be Glad if you can Email me Directly into my Personals Email So we can talk much Better,because as i know this will make our communication more complex and unique and it will help in photo sharing.I will stop here and wait to have your mail when you are less busy Frequently Via Email ___[nospam-﹫-backwards]___*c­o­m, So that We can get to know more about each Other,I cant wait to hear back from u,_____

Damn you Facebook! You cause me to miss the woman of my life!!
 
2011-12-10 01:36:45 PM
I also discovered the "Other" folder by accident. It has messages from people who are not your Facebook friends. I've seen nothing but messages from dudes in faraway places trying to pick me up. THAT is why it isn't prominent. Because you don't want to see that you have a message and be disappointed that it's just some dude who barely speaks English asking if you're a "filmstar model" instead of someone from real life.
 
2011-12-10 01:38:47 PM
Longtime Lurker: Well I of course didn't know about the "other" box and it's basically just facebook creating a spam box for events and such. Though I did get one fascinating email from a few months ago...

My name is ____, am single I am new to this type of atmosphere in meeting people, I have only been a member for a couple days and I just wanted to know where this will lead to.I enjoyedreading your profile and you are a very Handsome Guy!! I would like to get to know you better. If you are serious about the type of Woman you are looking for, please take the time to get to know me.I don't care about the Age or Distance cos I believe that when it is time for the Meeting I don't care about relocating, and I will Like to know More about a man Like you may be you are the Antel Sent down from God... I will be Glad to hear back from you and Know more about you.. I do have lots of Pics to share with you But I don't like double dating and I don't like staying on the Website that Much So I will be Glad if you can Email me Directly into my Personals Email So we can talk much Better,because as i know this will make our communication more complex and unique and it will help in photo sharing.I will stop here and wait to have your mail when you are less busy Frequently Via Email ___[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]___[* image 7x13]com, So that We can get to know more about each Other,I cant wait to hear back from u,_____

Damn you Facebook! You cause me to miss the woman of my life!!


God never sends me any Antels. *kicks dirt*
 
2011-12-10 01:45:42 PM
Longtime Lurker: Well I of course didn't know about the "other" box and it's basically just facebook creating a spam box for events and such. Though I did get one fascinating email from a few months ago...

My name is ____, am single I am new to this type of atmosphere in meeting people, I have only been a member for a couple days and I just wanted to know where this will lead to.I enjoyedreading your profile and you are a very Handsome Guy!! I would like to get to know you better. If you are serious about the type of Woman you are looking for, please take the time to get to know me.I don't care about the Age or Distance cos I believe that when it is time for the Meeting I don't care about relocating, and I will Like to know More about a man Like you may be you are the Antel Sent down from God... I will be Glad to hear back from you and Know more about you.. I do have lots of Pics to share with you But I don't like double dating and I don't like staying on the Website that Much So I will be Glad if you can Email me Directly into my Personals Email So we can talk much Better,because as i know this will make our communication more complex and unique and it will help in photo sharing.I will stop here and wait to have your mail when you are less busy Frequently Via Email ___[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]___[* image 7x13]com, So that We can get to know more about each Other,I cant wait to hear back from u,_____

Damn you Facebook! You cause me to miss the woman of my life!!


Reply with: "You can farking fark your farking self!!! Fark you, fark you, fark you in the ASS!!!!"

Then jump into a pond and fly away into the night.
 
2011-12-10 02:25:27 PM
stupid enough to exit taxi w/o brand new Mac and stupid enough to huh? FB - then writes article tells everyone how stupit they are. the deep well of dumb is a bottomless drink.
 
2011-12-10 02:29:49 PM
I was completely prepared to not be at all outraged about this until I went to check my "other" folder and found a message from someone I met months ago who I was trying to add but we were having trouble finding each other on the site (because of security settings and common names, no pics, etc.). The message said, "Let's be friends!" Now I look like a huge jerk for not getting back for 3 months. THANKS, FACEBOOK.
 
2011-12-10 02:36:44 PM
I read the article, opened the folder and the first message was a 3-month old email from a friend of a friend making me an offer for a gig. shiat.
 
2011-12-10 02:46:03 PM
Facebook?

What the fark is Facebook?!


*scratches head*
 
2011-12-10 03:01:56 PM
Heron: Blaming the Occupy folks for class conflict is like blaming a canary for the toxic fumes in your coal mine.

Whoa
 
2011-12-10 03:02:03 PM
This was news to me. I belong to several groups, so private messages from those people went into Other since I am not friends with the 10000 individual group members.

Live and learn.
 
2011-12-10 03:02:16 PM
in a shocking turn of events - this actually helped me out a LOT...on a whim after reading this article i decided to check my other folder just to see if i had anything and there was a message there from someone who had found my wallet...so...umm yah - THANKS fark! :)
 
2011-12-10 03:10:39 PM
Dang, I missed a couple of cool events. Apparently Facebook was hiding messages from several local groups I follow. These groups have been good about limiting their traffic to potentially interesting stuff, and I've never "hidden" their posts in my news stream or otherwise marked them as negative in any way. Facebook, this is starting to seem controlling for the hell of it. Back in the days before cell phones, if you had a manipulative passive-aggressive spouse who didn't like one of your friends, he/she would tell that person you weren't home, take a message, promise you would call them back, and then hide the message under a bunch of junk on the countertop or "accidentally" drop it behind the dishwasher, repeat until the person decides you're a dick and stops calling. How is this different?
 
2011-12-10 03:26:55 PM
The lady in the article? Stupid.
Getting worked up because you don't know how to use Facebook? Stupid.
Not backing up your important work? Stupid.

Pretty much stupid all around.
 
2011-12-10 04:02:57 PM
Pharque-it: A facebook mail crashing your Outlook is just another proof of the total crappiness of any Microsoft product!!
Happens to everybody all the time.
Microsoft: Crickets... (Wants you to BUY yet another upgrade, called Windows8 this time...)


t0.gstatic.com
 
2011-12-10 04:03:57 PM
Agent Smiths Laugh: And this is why I still have a career in IT. There is never any shortage of people too stupid or lazy to figure simple things out for themselves.

You still have a career in IT because too many people working in UX at places like Facebook have the same irrational contempt for the end user as you do.
 
2011-12-10 04:04:32 PM
Irresponsible dumbass can't uses social networking website. News at 11.
 
2011-12-10 04:15:02 PM
urgit39: in a shocking turn of events - this actually helped me out a LOT...on a whim after reading this article i decided to check my other folder just to see if i had anything and there was a message there from someone who had found my wallet...so...umm yah - THANKS fark! :)

A neighbor did the same for me when they found my wallet in the alley (before this "others" stuff.) I was super thrilled and six-packs were gifted.

Anyway, it's astonishing to me that anyone in this thread is saying that not knowing about this message folder means someone is "too stupid to use Facebook."

It's like chastising someone for failing to successfully navigate a city where the street names, positions of highways, traffic laws and direction of driving change without notice on a weekly basis.
 
2011-12-10 04:18:24 PM
Facebook killed my father.
 
2011-12-10 04:53:35 PM
If Facebook had labelled that folder "Probably Spam" would this writer be complaining?

That's what it's for and that fact should be immediately apparent upon looking at it's contents.
 
2011-12-10 04:58:50 PM
Polyhazard: urgit39: in a shocking turn of events - this actually helped me out a LOT...on a whim after reading this article i decided to check my other folder just to see if i had anything and there was a message there from someone who had found my wallet...so...umm yah - THANKS fark! :)

A neighbor did the same for me when they found my wallet in the alley (before this "others" stuff.) I was super thrilled and six-packs were gifted.


Wait... your neighbor found your wallet which had some form of identification in it to know it was yours, say for an example a driver license which includes an address and decided to search for you on Facebook instead of walking 50 feet to your door and give it to you?

We got a problem here and it isn't Facebook's Other menu.
 
2011-12-10 05:07:31 PM
Saners: Wait... your neighbor found your wallet which had some form of identification in it to know it was yours, say for an example a driver license which includes an address and decided to search for you on Facebook instead of walking 50 feet to your door and give it to you?

We got a problem here and it isn't Facebook's Other menu.


Yes, there was another problem, which is that my ID had me in Seattle, while my wallet was found in Denver where I had not yet received a local ID.

Actually kind of a nice way to meet my new neighbors, though!
 
2011-12-10 05:22:55 PM
Hypothetical Imperative: If Facebook had labelled that folder "Probably Spam" would this writer be complaining?

That's what it's for and that fact should be immediately apparent upon looking at it's contents.


For the most part, you are correct-- but the thing is the "Other" isn't even visible without clicking on "Messages" in the sidebar. If (like me and most other people using FB) you typically access your messages from the notifications at the top, you literally have no idea it is there.

I spend hours on Facebook every week for work, through every corner of its front and back end (hawt) and I had no idea this existed.

It's like if you discovered one day that the USPS had been "helpfully" sorting your junk mail into a second inbox they installed under a false bottom in your primary mailbox, and while most of it is 10% off car wash coupons there are also some letters from Aunt Sally that Postbot 6000 didn't find sufficiently interesting enough to show you.
 
2011-12-10 06:39:40 PM
The My Little Pony Killer: Bauer: i am involved in our local occupy group, here in nw ohio, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

: )

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Ohio getting on board with Occupy. Peace and Solidarity from Seattle.


right back at you.

be well!
 
2011-12-10 06:40:46 PM
The_Gallant_Gallstone: Bauer

Thank you for the Road House love


indeed!
 
2011-12-10 06:42:08 PM
Agent Smiths Laugh: And this is why I still have a career in IT. There is never any shortage of people too stupid or lazy to figure simple things out for themselves.

True story from a place I thankfully don't work at anymore. Our VP in charge of Engineering is sitting in a meeting with all the other VPs, and the VP in charge of Operations is giving a routine quarterly report, "blah blah blah doubling the size of the call center blah blah plans to hire a hundred new call center staff" WTF??? "here's a graph of call volumes over the last two quarters...."

"Stop right there." The VP of Engineering stands up and says, "Stay right on this slide. I'm going to step out side and make a few phone calls. I'll be less than five minutes." He walks out.

Five minutes later he walks back in and says, "Call volumes tripled in less than a month, and nobody on my team was told about it. Something is horribly broken in the field. When users are having problems, you are supposed to FARKING TELL SOMEBODY, not make plans to expand your headcount by 100%." Yeah, he did scream that part.

At that point the VP of Engineering had veins bulging out all over and had to leave to compose himself.

Lesson: technical support staff usually have no idea whether the issues encountered by users are genuine. Even hands-on IT people will disbelieve (and worse, suppress) reports from users. Unfortunately, that doesn't create any more or less work for software developers such as myself. It just makes us look randomly more or less competent than we deserve, depending on the situation.
 
2011-12-10 06:43:56 PM
ronaprhys: The My Little Pony Killer: Bauer: i am involved in our local occupy group, here in nw ohio, so i'm really getting a kick out of these replies.

: )

I'm pleasantly surprised to see Ohio getting on board with Occupy. Peace and Solidarity from Seattle.

Tell me you've got more than two tents and a communal tent-room.


we meet here at my arcade.

happy funtime arcade.

-and...it's on facebook, for those who wish to chat.
 
2011-12-10 06:51:09 PM
If you don't know that 'other' exists then you do not get much 'mail' on facebook. For serious, that folder is always full & blinking with new notifications for me. I knew it existed within 12 hours of rollout. At least all that crap isn't going into my main messages anymore.
 
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