If the GOP has such a hard-on for drug testing the unemployed and welfare recipients, then they should have no problems getting drug tested themselves.

Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) cited a local business this week when he introduced a stand-alone drug testing proposal. "I had an employer tell me of an overwhelming response for job openings," said Kingston. "There was just one problem: Half the people who applied could not even pass a drug test."

No offense, but considering the huge amount of blatant lies they tend to tell, I'm going to have to ask for some sort of evidence for this.

They should prohibit any employer from drug testing potential employees if that's such a hurdle. It would save so much in unemployment benefits, plus once they had jobs they'd have a lot less time to do drugs.

Didn't Florida try this shiat a while ago and drug test welfare recipients? Something like 2% of them failed the test. Right and wrong issues aside, as I remember it the testing costed more than the "savings" of denying the benefits so it's pointless.

It's absolutely pointless to drug test these people. For one, there's plenty of people that can use illegal drugs and hold down a job just fine. Second, while I don't want to pay out unemployment to the purely lazy people (and they are out there) I don't want to pay for their drug testing either. They're just going to pass because: third, drug users know how to pass a freaking drug test. Pot stays in your system longer than anything I know of (7-14 days) but you can beat that if you suck down a bunch of water and eat some super B vitamins to make your pee nice and yellow even if you smoked 1-2 days prior. Cocaine is untracable after 48 hours. LSD and shrooms are something like 12 hours after use.

If there's one lesson to be learned from our 30 year War on Drugs is that it's been an unparalleled success. Nary a single dollar has been wasted and drug use is almost non-existent now.

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jbuist: Didn't Florida try this shiat a while ago and drug test welfare recipients?

still happening - pay attention (new window)

What is the point of being rich and powerful if you can't piss on those beneath you? The unemployed deserve to be punished.

So, let's do this.

Anyone who gets Federal funds gets tested. All Federal employees. All Congresscritters. All government contractors. All farmers. All police. Everyone who gets a Federal dollar gets tested.

Come on you pussies. You want it? Do it! Take it to the logical conclusion.

eddyatwork: If half the people can't pass the drug test which I doubt, then I have to ask if maybe the drug testing is too stringent, especially in jobs where you almost have to take drugs just to deal with the drudgery of the work. Having worked data entry, I'd only hire people who smoke pot because at least they wouldn't want to snap and kill everyone there.

Makes sense to me. Frankly, I am suspicious of anyone whose life is in the toilet not taking something.

The trouble with the economy is there are too many damned poor people. So, eliminate the poor people! The Republican Road To Recovery^TM strikes again.

MorrisBird: The trouble with the economy is there are too many damned poor people. So, eliminate the poor people! The Republican Road To RecoveryTM strikes again.

To be fair, without support, many will turn to crime. That will mean more folk's jailed. That means more jobs for police. More attorneys. More judges. More guards. We will have MOAR jobs.

On the public dime, and the prisoners will have to housed. It's a lot more expensive, but it's not like folk's might profit privately from all this Federal excess spending...

When the Republicans send out their talking point lies, you think they'd at least send a follow-up telling them which lies have been busted.

South Carolina governor (new window) already tried this lie and got called on it.

jbuist: drug users know how to pass a freaking drug test.

That's why they are turning to hair testing which can detect use from three to as much as 12 months, depending from where the sample is retrieved.

hubiestubert: Anyone who gets Federal funds gets tested. All Federal employees. All Congresscritters. All government contractors. All farmers. All police. Everyone who gets a Federal dollar gets tested.

Mandatory drug, STD, and IQ testing for Members of Congress. That's a platform I'd vote for.

OregonVet: That's why they are turning to hair testing which can detect use from three to as much as 12 months, depending from where the sample is retrieved.

I'd like to take this opportunity to say that anyone testing my hair can dig one out of my own assrim.

Thank you.

Ya know what's really weird? Being self employed makes you a "vendor". I'll let you guys study that out and why it's important.

Can we drug test Rick Santorum while we're at it?

Mugato: Approves

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hubiestubert: Anyone who gets Federal funds gets tested. All Federal employees. All Congresscritters. All government contractors. All farmers. All police. Everyone who gets a Federal dollar gets tested.

The problem with this is that the congressscritters who are favoring this law are the ones that OWN (or have by now invested in) the farking drug testing centers.

OK. Have every elected official fitted with a SCRAM anklet. GPS it so that the moment they enter any legislative building, it tests them for alcohol. Failing the test once means you are removed from the premises by the Sergeant at Arms for the day. A second failure means immediate impeachment with subsequent removal from office and loss of pension benefits. And, of course, test them randomly for all other drugs of abuse as well.

Put your money where your mouths are, suckers.

You know, for people who like to hold up the Constitution as some kind of holy writ and parrot lines about Personal Liberty, there are some positions that the Republicans take that are just plain asinine and ironic. This is one of them.

Damn they irritate the hell out of me sometimes.

CanisNoir: You know, for people who like to hold up the Constitution as some kind of holy writ and parrot lines about Personal Liberty, there are some positions that the Republicans take that are just plain asinine and ironic. This is one of them.

Damn they irritate the hell out of me sometimes.

Is that some kind of reverse troll?

Sleeping Monkey: Is that some kind of reverse troll?

Why would you think that? I've always stated I was a Libertarian\Conservative and often times split from the Republican stance when it comes to issues. Those who think I'm some kind of GOP shill are ignorant. I've always long held the belief that ending the prohibition on drugs would be a net benefit to the country in the form of more tax revenue and jobs.
Drug tests are not 100% accurate and never have been, the idea of tying someones life line to a sketchy test that could easily send out a false positive to me is stupid. The vast majority of people claiming unemployment are doing so because they *need* to. People will game any system you put into place, so legislating the majority based upon the actions of the bad minority is not the way to go. As I sated in an earlier thread of similar topic, the notion that someone could be made destitute because they ate a poppy seed muffin for breakfast does not fill me with a whole lot of confidence.

Democrats take positions that are ironic considering all of their bluster as well.

Only if the legislators/government workers are drug tested as well.

Otherwise, nope.

CanisNoir: Democrats take positions that are ironic considering all of their bluster as well.

No argument there.

/still bookmarking this thread for future hauntings

So the real question is, who is getting the money for this? TANSTAAFL.

so the Republicans really DO want food riots and civil unrest don't they?

Weaver95: so the Republicans really DO want food riots and civil unrest don't they?

I used to fight against the tide, trying to keep everything that's wrong with the world from heading towards its obvious conclusions. Then I thought, why not speed up the disaster, get it over with, learn from it and move on?

But that's just the radical in me.

TheOmni: Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) cited a local business this week when he introduced a stand-alone drug testing proposal. "I had an employer tell me of an overwhelming response for job openings," said Kingston. "There was just one problem: Half the people who applied could not even pass a drug test."

No offense, but considering the huge amount of blatant lies they tend to tell, I'm going to have to ask for some sort of evidence for this.

*Not intended to be a factual statement

/works for a Fortune 100 company that does not drug test
//still don't do drugs
///not the illegal kind, anyway

TheOmni: No offense

I just saw this old Three Musketeers film. In one scene, Lady deWinter is telling Athos that she has to kill d'Artagnan because he has insulted her. Athos responds "Since when has it been possible to insult YOU. Madam." Implying that whatever was said still fell well short of the mark of the horrible truth.

I have no idea why that scene came to mind when I read your post.

CornDog in 2012: I'm never voting for an incumbent ever again

Problem: Republicans have once again done something really batshiat.
Resolution: I will vote for Republicans 50% of the time.

That makes no sense.

osafer: I have to take a drug test to get my money...

And you have to have the money to buy the drugs.

/what a world

Weaver95: so the Republicans really DO want food riots and civil unrest don't they?

Oh yes. That way they can sell a lot more guns and ammo.

I've been unemployed after a massive layoff by my defense contractor employer and gotten unemployment payments because I paid into unemployment insurance. Why the fark make it dependent on piss tests? I farkin' paid the insurance already.

The GOP continues to run of control because voters let them. Kick the SOBs our of their jobs and let them pee for their unemployment payments.

/Stupid, feel-good laws.

AirForceVet: I've been unemployed after a massive layoff by my defense contractor employer and gotten unemployment payments because I paid into unemployment insurance. Why the fark make it dependent on piss tests? I farkin' paid the insurance already.

The GOP continues to run of control because voters let them. Kick the SOBs our of their jobs and let them pee for their unemployment payments.

/Stupid, feel-good laws.

You didn't pay into unemployment insurance, your employer did. Common misconception.