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2011-12-09 01:33:06 PM
Yes, they had come vegan options (at request of the customers, no less.)
No, it wasnt a total vegan menu.

/bad subby, you are bad and you should feel bad.
 
2011-12-09 01:35:54 PM
he will open one last time on Saturday before liquidating his restaurant and calling it a day.

He can call it a day if he wants, but it's still a restaurant.
 
2011-12-09 01:39:13 PM
I don't know if I'd blame the sites. There's a lot of competition in the Lincoln Square area for cheap eats, and in today's foodie culture, people tend to hit the ethnic restaurants in that area as opposed to a hot dog stand.

If he was a little south, or maybe off Rush St., that place probably could have owned the bar crowd.
 
2011-12-09 01:51:48 PM
How can it be a hot DOG if it doesn't have any meat?
 
2011-12-09 01:54:59 PM
He tells the newspaper he turned to several daily deal companies - among them Groupon Now and Living Social - to offer discounts. But customers who cashed in on the deal never returned to spend full price on a meal.
...
Baker tells the paper he has only himself to blame. He says he didn't calculate his risk in offering daily deals.



No shiat Sherlock. If he couldn't have figured this out before hand, it *is* his fault. He probably should have only used one site and not 'free' coupons, but 'get this free with a purchase of this'.
 
2011-12-09 01:56:11 PM
FTA: "Baker tells the paper he has only himself to blame."
 
2011-12-09 02:01:08 PM
He's selling vegan hot dogs in Chicago.

That is why he isn't making any money.
 
2011-12-09 02:02:13 PM
Wow, I used to live a couple of blocks from there and ate there regularly. But never a vegan hot dog, and certainly never ketchup.
 
2011-12-09 02:02:46 PM
Bukharin: Yes, they had come vegan options (at request of the customers, no less.)
No, it wasnt a total vegan menu.

/bad subby, you are bad and you should feel bad.


I feel good, I knew that would now.The guy was selling vegan hot dogs and his name is Drew....Good Riddance


///Subby
 
2011-12-09 03:01:28 PM
jim32rr: ///Subby

You've been on this site for 5 years, have 192 greenlights, and you're still submitting articles with the first letter of every word capitalized (before the modmineratoristrators changed it)?

Let it go, man.
 
2011-12-09 03:12:19 PM
Polish sausage.....Ditka.....Ditka.....sausage.
 
2011-12-09 03:13:07 PM
sigdiamond2000: jim32rr: ///Subby

You've been on this site for 5 years, have 192 greenlights, and you're still submitting articles with the first letter of every word capitalized (before the modmineratoristrators changed it)?

Let it go, man.


Yep, What's Your Point? You Like Vegan Dogs
 
2011-12-09 03:23:20 PM
So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

www.viennabeef.com
 
2011-12-09 03:26:11 PM
Were they just as biatchy as any other Chicago person about putting ketchup on it too?
 
2011-12-09 03:33:05 PM
Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]


That's a salad, not a hot dog.
 
2011-12-09 03:36:52 PM
stpauler: Were they just as biatchy as any other Chicago person about putting ketchup on it too?


"Nobody, I mean nobody puts ketchup on a hot dog."

/Better not be obscure.
 
2011-12-09 03:52:20 PM
catsup.
 
2011-12-09 03:57:49 PM
GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.


You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...
 
2011-12-09 04:38:22 PM
daily deal sites, by their very nature, attract almost exclusively two types of customers:
1) people who are already going to your place and buy it for the discount
2) people who only go to places where they can get daily deals and spend as close to the exact amount of the deal

it is a flawed marketing model. that said, it fits in well with someone who stuffs tofurkey into a digestible condom and calls it a hotdog. in chicago.
 
2011-12-09 04:40:38 PM
Paris1127: GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.

You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...


I don't put anything on them.
 
2011-12-09 04:43:11 PM
GAT_00: Paris1127: GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.

You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...

I don't put anything on them.


you might as well just be eating them raw right out of the package.
 
2011-12-09 04:45:12 PM
thomps: GAT_00: Paris1127: GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.

You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...

I don't put anything on them.

you might as well just be eating them raw right out of the package.


I don't eat them much in the first place. Hot dogs are nasty.
 
2011-12-09 04:46:33 PM
GAT_00: Paris1127: GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.

You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...

I don't put anything on them.


That's perfectly alright.
 
2011-12-09 04:46:43 PM
GAT_00: thomps: GAT_00: Paris1127: GAT_00: Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]

That's a salad, not a hot dog.

You sound like you put mayo on your hot dogs... Or ketchup...

I don't put anything on them.

you might as well just be eating them raw right out of the package.

I don't eat them much in the first place. Hot dogs are nasty.


well yeah, i'd think pizza was nasty if i only ate the dough.
 
2011-12-09 04:48:27 PM
thomps: well yeah, i'd think pizza was nasty if i only ate the dough.

No. The base of a pizza is dough, sauce and cheese. The base of a hot dog is bun and hot dog.
 
2011-12-09 04:49:24 PM
GAT_00: thomps: well yeah, i'd think pizza was nasty if i only ate the dough.

No. The base of a pizza is dough, sauce and cheese. The base of a hot dog is bun and hot dog.


it would seem we are at an impasse.
 
2011-12-09 04:49:26 PM
Paris1127: So what goes on a vegan Chicago hot dog? Meat? You know what, I bet those bastards put ketchup on their hot dogs!

[www.viennabeef.com image 582x442]


Now that I look at the image, Vienna Beef should really consider using symbols that are different from those of Lead, Cobalt and Cesium... Unless the Cesium describes the color of the relish...
 
2011-12-09 04:49:33 PM
stpauler: Were they just as biatchy as any other Chicago person about putting ketchup on it too?

Its not biatchy, its the right way to do things. I hold people to standards when it comes to hot dogs!
 
2011-12-09 05:01:20 PM
I hate when people who normally consider themselves regular joes jump on the folks who put ketchup on their hotdogs. It's the one subject that brings out the food snobbery in people you'd least expect it from. You're the same guy who proudly makes their own barbecue sauce using a ketchup base, then slathers it all over a perfectly delicious 20 dollar rack of ribs that you dote on for 6-8 hours, and yet you can't see fit to putting it on a boiled wiener.
The go-to brands of ketchup are the world's best mass-produced sauces. Ketchup is a perfect blend of tangy, salty and sweet. Tomato and molasses, vinegar and onion are all good things. Anyone can make their own mayo, relish or even mustard but you rarely hear about good home-made ketchup, precisely because it is difficult to get that balance right.
And it TASTES GOOD ON HOT DOGS -- one of the world's cheapest sausages. And which, you may recall, don't taste that great by themselves to begin with.

I'll put any damn condiment on a hot dog as long as it covers up the fact that I'm eating greyish meat.

Tofu dogs suck no matter what you put on them.
 
2011-12-09 05:04:11 PM
thomps: GAT_00: thomps: well yeah, i'd think pizza was nasty if i only ate the dough.

No. The base of a pizza is dough, sauce and cheese. The base of a hot dog is bun and hot dog.

it would seem we are at an impasse.


Haha. Am I supposed to bring a sword out now?
 
2011-12-09 05:05:21 PM
GAT_00: thomps: GAT_00: thomps: well yeah, i'd think pizza was nasty if i only ate the dough.

No. The base of a pizza is dough, sauce and cheese. The base of a hot dog is bun and hot dog.

it would seem we are at an impasse.

Haha. Am I supposed to bring a sword out now?


have your second contact my second. they'll work out the details.
 
2011-12-09 06:25:43 PM
I've only gotten a dog in Chicago once, it was wet and and they didn't even have ketchup for it. Vile thong.
 
2011-12-09 06:29:03 PM
Bukharin: Yes, they had come vegan options (at request of the customers, no less.)


Well, there's your problem
 
2011-12-09 06:29:18 PM
If I read one more story about a business owner who cant find their own ass with both hands and a swivel waist who does a livingsocial or groupon and 'it ruined their business' I'm going to throw up a tofu hot dog.

Whats weird is I've never eaten a tofu hotdog.

Because of course its livingsocial or groupons fault when they dont know what they're doing, enter into a contract they dont understand, on a marketing proposal when they dont really know whats going to happen. Probably doesnt help that half the 'deals' I see are to restaurants that I know suck or are close to going out of business. Not a great start right there.
 
2011-12-09 06:30:27 PM
tarhammer: If I read one more story about a business owner who cant find their own ass with both hands and a swivel waist who does a livingsocial or groupon and 'it ruined their business' I'm going to throw up a tofu hot dog.

Whats weird is I've never eaten a tofu hotdog.

Because of course its livingsocial or groupons fault when they dont know what they're doing, enter into a contract they dont understand, on a marketing proposal when they dont really know whats going to happen. Probably doesnt help that half the 'deals' I see are to restaurants that I know suck or are close to going out of business. Not a great start right there.


The guy blames himself for it. The deal sites are how he killed the business, but he knows it was his poor decision making.
 
2011-12-09 06:30:55 PM
Superdawg and Hot Doug's have better dogs than this place.

The only thing I don't like about Chicago is how they attack people who put ketchup on their dog. It's about as bad as the 'English Only' folks.
 
2011-12-09 06:33:33 PM
Hank Hill (at vegan counter in market): Oh, hot dogs!
Counter hippy: Those aren't hot dogs, they're "not-dogs"!
Hank: Do they taste good?
Counter hippy: well...no.
Hank Hill: Do you have anything that tastes good?
Counter Hippy (hanging head): ...no.
 
2011-12-09 06:33:40 PM
R.A.Danny: He's selling vegan hot dogs in Chicago.

That is why he isn't making any money.
 
2011-12-09 06:34:01 PM
If you can't sit down with some paper and pencil and figure out the impact of a worst-case-scenario in using one of the deal sites, then you're just accelerating the inevitable.
 
2011-12-09 06:34:21 PM
Ketchup on hot dogs/polish/brats is for kids. It damn well better be on my burger, though.
 
2011-12-09 06:35:33 PM
I used to put ketchup on a hot dog.

Now it's either BBQ sauce or sriracha.

Cope.

(And Thai-syle chicken sausages with sweet chili and lemongrass kick butt)
 
2011-12-09 06:36:02 PM
oldernell: How can it be a hot DOG if it doesn't have any meat?

No kidding, the regular ones are LOADED with meat!

www.boosman.com
 
2011-12-09 06:36:12 PM
Groupon claims another business.

Seems like they do a really good job of overselling the positive impact a Groupon offer can have but ignore the reality:

If you sell $20 of food for a $10 coupon, of that Ten, the restaurant gets to keep $5.

Now it's true that restaurants mark up the food, but they also have to provide space, toilets, staff, etc. etc. In my experience, a restaurant that is smoking, might make 20%, maybe a bit more if they have a really hot bar.

So, essentally, you lose money with every groupon sale so if you don't get NEW customers who keep coming back at least 4 times, you lost money on the deal, big time.

Eventually they will have to figure that out.
 
2011-12-09 06:36:37 PM
downstairs: stpauler: Were they just as biatchy as any other Chicago person about putting ketchup on it too?

Its not biatchy, its the right way to do things. I hold people to standards when it comes to hot dogs!


It's customary to not ask for ketchup to put on your hotdog when your in Shacarrgo. It's quite all right to bathe your wiener in sugary tomato sauce anywhere else in the country. The local culinary custom in Shacarrgo is a bunch a wind.
 
2011-12-09 06:37:02 PM
Y'all need to get yourselves some Field Roast. It will change your mind on vegan sausage.

/not vegan, or vegetarian for that matter
 
2011-12-09 06:37:41 PM
Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've only gotten a dog in Chicago once, it was wet and and they didn't even have ketchup for it. Vile thong.

...wat?
 
2011-12-09 06:38:42 PM
Coming up next - a story about a steakhouse in Dehli, India that had to close its doors due to lack of clientele..

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-09 06:38:56 PM
I'll eat your dogs the way you want, Chicago, but don't try to pass off casserole as pizza.
 
2011-12-09 06:39:12 PM
Hot Dogs are a snack.
 
2011-12-09 06:39:36 PM
If a coupon brought people to your business that never returned afterwards, maybe your food is just shiat.
 
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