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(Hot Air) Asinine Did the Obama administration delay the report on Volt fires? No, but that's a much more outrageous headline than "The Obama administration didn't delay the report on Volt fires," so you can see the pickle Hot Air was in   (hotair.com) divider line 157
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2011-12-09 01:11:27 PM
Question marks should just not be allowed in press headlines. Make declarative statements, damn you!
 
2011-12-09 01:12:46 PM
tesla for the win!

www.thetorquereport.com

www.better-trades.com

A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass
 
2011-12-09 01:27:52 PM
FTA: "it's also good to keep in mind that a single outcome in testing shouldn't trigger recalls or warnings."

And if Republicans had any STEM knowledge at all, they would know that a single incident is not statistically significant enough. If the NHTSA had called for a recall before verifying the results, the Republicans would be screaming because they were clearly fear-mongering and hurting the profit margins of GM.

/the stupid, it hurts
 
2011-12-09 01:30:02 PM
So...is this a pickle incident?
 
2011-12-09 01:30:58 PM
CornDog in 2012: A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass

And costs $60,000.
 
2011-12-09 01:42:44 PM
Humean_Nature: Question marks should just not be allowed in press headlines. Make declarative statements, damn you!

THIS! A great, big, motherfarking THIS!
 
2011-12-09 01:52:14 PM
Vodka Zombie: THIS! A great, big, motherfarking THIS!

Thing is, "declarative statements only" was what we were taught in journalism school for making headlines. And then you have to get out there and compete for ad space and page views and shiat and suddenly it's all, "well I guess we can just make crap up to trick people into reading...."
 
2011-12-09 02:00:15 PM
Rev.K: CornDog in 2012: A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass

And costs $60,000.


It looks like you can reserve one of the sedan types for around $50,000, and a mandatory $5k downpayment to reserve one. I wish I could afford that, particularly since I'll shortly be getting a new car.
 
2011-12-09 02:15:59 PM
Hot Air, indeed...
 
2011-12-09 02:32:10 PM
I want a Volt Fire. Sounds like an awesome, um, I don't care what the product is, I want it. As for the Chevy Volt, no thank you. I am looking at the Tesla/Toyota team up to see what my next car might be.
 
2011-12-09 02:43:35 PM
Why is it the Obama Administration's responsibility to report product defects?
 
2011-12-09 02:50:16 PM
Humean_Nature: Thing is, "declarative statements only" was what we were taught in journalism school for making headlines. And then you have to get out there and compete for ad space and page views and shiat and suddenly it's all, "well I guess we can just make crap up to trick people into reading...."

Or the more likely, Hot Air is a right leaning blog and was addressing a claim that had already been made to the Republican Base *after* the three Republicans asked the question. If you hear babble on talk radio about Obama White House holding back a story, I think it's pretty common to start an entry with the same question, especially if you answer the question with facts and proof. The fact that a group is still going to file a Freedom of Information request tells you that in many minds the question still hasn't been answered. Funny how you hardly ever see these kinds of complaints when a KOS article or Huffpo piece does the same thing. Be happy the article was factual and not loaded with spin.
 
2011-12-09 02:50:20 PM
Question marks: a sign of concern?
 
2011-12-09 02:52:03 PM
When will Hot Air stop molesting the neighborhood kids?
 
2011-12-09 02:52:30 PM
Because we all know gasoline cars never catch on fire after a major accident.
 
2011-12-09 02:53:34 PM
Batteries can self ignite and catch on fire? Who knew?

//Everyone born after the 1920s, and most of the people born before as well, that's farking who.

make me some tea: Why is it the Obama Administration's responsibility to report product defects?

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is an executive department department explicitly responsible for verifying that vehicles allowed on US roads fall within certain safety parameters, so... that's why?

Was... was that actually a serious question? It's right in TFA there.
 
2011-12-09 02:54:51 PM
Did Ed Morrissey participate in auto erotic asphyxiation using the intestines of a child he just murdered?
 
2011-12-09 02:54:59 PM
Rev.K: CornDog in 2012: A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass

And costs $60,000.


True, but:

1. That's half the price of a Roadster - and the projected price of their third car is half of that again. Now that's an impressive cost curve.

2. While only a few people buy $110,000 cars, a whole lot of people buy $60,000 cars - the Tesla S will compete directly with the middle range from M-B, BMW, and Audi. And will compete well.

3. Fresh from one of the OWS threads, I know that your inability to afford a $60,000 car is your fault for being a lazy pothead entitled snowflake with lots of participation certificates.
 
2011-12-09 02:55:11 PM
Did Hot Air give me syphilis?
 
2011-12-09 02:57:32 PM
Actually, every right wing piece of trash blog is scrambling for the big Drudge Ah HA! Gotcha that brings the Obama House of Cards down on top of us. Hot Air is simply another sperm swimming along the rest of them to fertilize this cosmic egg.
 
2011-12-09 02:58:21 PM
Chakro: Because we all know gasoline cars never catch on fire after a major accident.

If I learned anything from my TV babysitter, it was that all cars instantly explode into massive fireballs upon the slightest contact with telephone poles, other cars (parked or moving), or bullets.
 
2011-12-09 02:58:45 PM
CornDog in 2012: tesla for the win!

[www.thetorquereport.com image 640x426]

[www.better-trades.com image 492x369]

A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass


very fond of the Tesla

/TSLA
//look into it under $27 a share, kids
 
2011-12-09 02:58:48 PM
Vodka Zombie: Humean_Nature: Question marks should just not be allowed in press headlines. Make declarative statements, damn you!

THIS? A great, big, motherfarking THIS?


FTFY.
 
2011-12-09 02:59:13 PM
Rambino: Rev.K: CornDog in 2012: A great electric car that doesn't look like a bag of ass

And costs $60,000.

True, but:


The Leaf goes for less than 40K after rebates, if that matters....

Bonus: no sales tax
 
2011-12-09 02:59:26 PM
laikaspoetnik.files.wordpress.com

/Hotlinked
/A real paper!
 
2011-12-09 02:59:33 PM
I bet more Hot Air readers at least started the article expecting to read that the Obama admin did delay the report than would have if the headline simply stated that the report was not delayed.
 
2011-12-09 03:00:20 PM
Notabunny: How it's done

[img.photobucket.com image 600x443]


I hadn't seen that. I want to frame that and put it on my wall, its rather terrific.
 
2011-12-09 03:00:39 PM
However, a one-off fire is hardly the big issue with the Obama administration's push on electric cars. Yesterday, the Washington Post reported that the billions this administration has sunk into this area of green technology will end up producing bupkis:

img97.imageshack.us

/What a bupkis apparently looks like?
 
2011-12-09 03:00:47 PM
Rambino: 1. That's half the price of a Roadster - and the projected price of their third car is half of that again. Now that's an impressive cost curve.

Great. Wake me up when I can get one along with a happy meal.
 
2011-12-09 03:01:15 PM
usernameguy: Did Hot Air give me syphilis?

Why hasn't Hot Air addressed this accusation yet? The fact that they choose to keep silent on the syphilis issue should tell you something.
 
2011-12-09 03:01:21 PM
whidbey: Actually, every right wing piece of trash blog is scrambling for the big Drudge Ah HA! Gotcha that brings the Obama House of Cards down on top of us. Hot Air is simply another sperm swimming along the rest of them to fertilize this cosmic egg.

the funny part is that they've had it for months with extrajudicial executions!

/ducks
//the Hellfire
 
2011-12-09 03:01:41 PM
whidbey: The Leaf goes for less than 40K after rebates, if that matters....

Unfortunately, electric vehicles and hybrids aren't really going to make the most important dent until they can be had for under $10k.
 
2011-12-09 03:03:54 PM
Let's go lemmings. Circle the electric wagons around the dear leader. Do it for the hopety and the changey.
 
2011-12-09 03:04:05 PM
http://autos.yahoo.com/tesla/

clip - Tesla MSRP $109,000 - $128,500.

If your good idea is not affordable by the masses its not a good idea
 
2011-12-09 03:04:13 PM
well, thank The God gasoline-powered autos never catch fire after crashes... amirite?
 
2011-12-09 03:04:44 PM
Anytime someone starts an article with a headline of [random declarative statement disguised as a question designed to create Fwd:Fwd:Fwd: email chains amongst those who only read the headline ], I immediately answer with No, and move on with my life.
 
2011-12-09 03:06:16 PM
tomcatadam: whidbey: The Leaf goes for less than 40K after rebates, if that matters....

Unfortunately, electric vehicles and hybrids aren't really going to make the most important dent until they can be had for under $10k.


The point is that the price is going down dramatically.

True, they're statement cars at this point, but they are demonstrating that the possibility exists to get off gasoline-powered transportation.
 
2011-12-09 03:08:00 PM
Felgraf: [laikaspoetnik.files.wordpress.com image 640x303]

/Hotlinked
/A real paper!


OK, that's now my desktop background. I was aware of the paper, but had no idea that it had the most awesome abstract in history. Thanks.
 
2011-12-09 03:08:03 PM
brainiac-dumdum: I bet more Hot Air readers at least started the article expecting to read that the Obama admin did delay the report than would have if the headline simply stated that the report was not delayed.


But, how many Hot Air readers read the article and still walked away feeling that Fartbongo had done something wrong?
 
2011-12-09 03:09:32 PM
Will this thing become dangerous to you? Find out later.

It's called a hook, newbs.
 
2011-12-09 03:09:40 PM
Bob16: http://autos.yahoo.com/tesla/

clip - Tesla MSRP $109,000 - $128,500.

If your good idea is not affordable by the masses its not a good idea


yeah, that's why companies that make expensive things don't do well...

By the way, the Apple II cost $2,638 for 48K of RAM when it was introduced in 1977
 
2011-12-09 03:09:58 PM
The Republicans sure do hate anything that is "green." Of course they have been fairly successful in holding America back, so I'm sure that keeps them going.

Anything that can be spun as a failure of the new technology gets plastered everywhere like it is significant to the big picture. News flash: New technologies take time to mature, considering the scope of the problem things have been going pretty well, especially considering how the Republicans have been in demonizing it.

Energy efficiency is the future, whether they like it or not.
 
2011-12-09 03:10:21 PM
Electric cars were a failed technology over a hundred years ago.

But, like socialism, our divine leader will make things that have failed in the past viable now.
 
2011-12-09 03:10:31 PM
whidbey: True, they're statement cars at this point, but they are demonstrating that the possibility exists to get off gasoline-powered transportation.

Though if everyone in the US (that feasibly could) switched tomorrow, would the grid be able to come close to handling it?
 
2011-12-09 03:11:32 PM
YELLOL: Electric cars were a failed technology over a hundred years ago.

o_O
 
2011-12-09 03:13:02 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: brainiac-dumdum: I bet more Hot Air readers at least started the article expecting to read that the Obama admin did delay the report than would have if the headline simply stated that the report was not delayed.


But, how many Hot Air readers read the article and still walked away feeling that Fartbongo had done something wrong?


Yeah, but that's their default setting, so they always feel like that.
 
2011-12-09 03:13:13 PM
Captain_Ballbeard: But, how many Hot Air readers read the article and still walked away feeling that Fartbongo had done something wrong?

Every single one of them, if the comments derped there are any indication.
 
2011-12-09 03:14:36 PM
Jim_Callahan: Batteries can self ignite and catch on fire? Who knew?

//Everyone born after the 1920s, and most of the people born before as well, that's farking who.

make me some tea: Why is it the Obama Administration's responsibility to report product defects?

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration is an executive department department explicitly responsible for verifying that vehicles allowed on US roads fall within certain safety parameters, so... that's why?

Was... was that actually a serious question? It's right in TFA there.


You ever notice how any agency does anything its "The Obama administration" but when the Minerals Management Service was caught being bought off buy the energy industry with cocaine and whores it was still the MMS and not the Bush administration?
 
2011-12-09 03:14:38 PM
Bob16: http://autos.yahoo.com/tesla/

clip - Tesla MSRP $109,000 - $128,500.

If your good idea is not affordable by the masses its not a good idea


*notsureifserious.jpg*

lolwut?
 
2011-12-09 03:16:48 PM
Makh: I want a Volt Fire. Sounds like an awesome, um, I don't care what the product is, I want it. As for the Chevy Volt, no thank you. I am looking at the Tesla/Toyota team up to see what my next car might be.

Powerful electromagnetic drive train coupled with a psychotic on board computer system. I'm assuming the result would a pilot TV show for the next ABC fall season.
 
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