simplicimus: Well, as someone once suggested, maybe our legislators should wear NASCAR jackets.

no need, if a politician supports something safe money is he/she is being bribed to support it.

dahmers love zombie: That's cool. If it looks like the Republican version with the oil pipeline extortion gains strength, someone simply needs to add an additional rider repealing the Hyde Amendment. Seeing as unrelated stuff is being added and all.

I'm willing to allow the oil pipeline in exchange for federal funding for abortion AND the tax cut. Or we can dump both amendments and simply go with the tax cut. The Republicans can choose which.

A move to repeal the Hyde amendment would be admitting that the Hyde amendment exists. If the GOP admitted that the Hyde amendment exists it would make it slightly more awkward whenever the GOP tried to add pointless items to bills to finally stop DC using taxpayer dollars for abortions.

SphericalTime: FTA: "Frankly, the fact that the president doesn't like it makes me like it even more," said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a leader of House conservatives, who added he had supported an earlier version, as well.

Classy. Very classy. Can't you tell how serious he takes his job to work toward the benefit of all Americans?

He might as well just come out and say that he doesn't like the fact that we have a ni-BONG in the White House at this point.

I can already see the deal being pitched.

"Fine fine, you'll get your payroll tax extended, but we want that pipeline approved and that military-detention thing, too."

FTA: "Frankly, the fact that the president doesn't like it makes me like it even more," said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a leader of House conservatives, who added he had supported an earlier version, as well.

This is the kind of statement that should bar anyone from holding a position of legislative authority now and forever.

Wait so how is a pipeline going to pay for the tax break? I thought the disagreement wasn't about the tax cut itself but how it was going to be funded.

"Frankly, the fact that the president doesn't like it makes me like it even more," said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a leader of House conservatives,

There's some more of those advanced reasoning skills we've come to expect from the R crowd.

I like oil. I also like natural gas. And coal.

LargeCanine: I like oil. I also like natural gas. And coal.


I like eggs...

They need more lube to continue to screw the a**holes of the 99%.

SphericalTime: FTA: "Frankly, the fact that the president doesn't like it makes me like it even more," said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a leader of House conservatives

Country first, huh.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: In other news, Michelle Obama will soon be dropping her "let's move" campaign and starting a "don't drink bleach" campaign to help educate children of the dangers of drinking household chemicals.

She should totally do that.

I hope the Dems stay strong. The Republicans will suffer if they fail to extend this payroll tax cut. Even the teabaggiest of the teabaggers would hate to see their taxes go up just because the Republicans didn't get an unrelated oil pipeline. Even Norquist would roast Republicans for that.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: In other news, Michelle Obama will soon be dropping her "let's move" campaign and starting a "don't drink bleach" campaign to help educate children of the dangers of drinking household chemicals.

Michelle Obama: "Kids,.. Don't Drink Bleach!"

GOP: Oh god, now what is she harping on? The (airquotes) "Dangers of chemicals" (airquotes). She shouldn't be telling the US taxpayers what to and what not to drink!

serpent_sky:
Wow, they're not even thinly veiling the fact that they simply do not like the President and that motivates their every decision.

Sickening.

It's not really unusual in itself, personality conflict has always played a big role in who votes for what in representative democracy.

Even the fact that it's organized and somewhat unified isn't really new so much as SOP for a parliamentary minority. It's not necessarily pleasant in the day-to-day sense, but it's the way it's worked since Rome took the first go at the system... generally people work around it.

The whole "intentionally sabotaging routine bills on a regular basis" game, though, historically that tends to precede the final death of a political party/faction. G'bye, GOP, the 1990s version of you may possibly be missed. Enjoy the entirely precedented temporary surge before the crash, I guess.

The pipeline will keep energy cost down, create lots of jobs and the "citing environmental and safety concerns" is bullshiat. Pipelines are a very well known entity Mr Obama. Obama is the one playing politics here. He's afraid he'll lose an environmental base for his election if he helps to keep energy costs down for the masses. Pipelines are the safest way to transport massive amounts of cheap energy and create a huge amount of jobs.
He is so disingenuous. Somehow congress could cram a gigantic, extremely complicated, with many unknown details Obamacare bill through congress before Christmas, but a simple, safe pipeline requires lots of time and study? Please, we have built many of pipelines before. I see your bullshiat Obama! So do the unemployed looking for work.

Nadie_AZ: I wonder what'll happen after he wins another term. Will they accept, or will they fight harder? I can't decide.

To find the answer take at look at what happened the last time a Democrat got re-elected.

Nadie_AZ: I wonder what'll happen after he wins another term.




God forbid, but I wouldn't put it past the Republican electorate.

bootman: A move to repeal the Hyde amendment would be admitting that the Hyde amendment exists. If the GOP admitted that the Hyde amendment exists it would make it slightly more awkward whenever the GOP tried to add pointless items to bills to finally stop DC using taxpayer dollars for abortions.

Oh don't worry, just the other day they spent much of the day debating and eventually passing a bill that bans the EPA from regulating dust from agriculture despite the EPA specifically stating they have no regulations or intentions of ever regulating such.

thirdrail: Wait so how is a pipeline going to pay for the tax break? I thought the disagreement wasn't about the tax cut itself but how it was going to be funded.

Boehner is claiming that it will create tens of thousands of jobs instantly. He's taken a beating over not producing any jobs so he's trying to shift the blame anywhere else but on his House. Besides, he needed the pipeline to get the numbers in the House. Don't forget he's saddled with a bunch of lunatics in his own party that he has to work with.

There's more than just the pipeline that the Republicans have thrown in there, too.

The Republican bill also would overturn an Obama administration rule that bars states from conducting drug tests for recipients of unemployment compensation and would include income-based eligibility for food stamps, according to Representative Aaron Schock, an Illinois Republican.

Pelosi and Obama have a point here-what does extending a tax cut have to do with an oil pipeline? And since when are Republicans against tax cuts? I guess if Obama is for it they are automatically against it.

The unions support the pipeline because it creates thousands of jobs. So Obama will have to choose between two lovers, the environmental whack-jobs, or the thugs.

Can anyone explain to me how anyone got so up in arms about this particular pipeline? I mean, I'm relatively left, relatively Green, and relatively growth-skeptical. But, yeah. It's an oil pipeline. We have literally thousands of petrochemical pipelines going up and down the middle of the country. There are two different ones across my family's South Dakota quarter-section. I know guys who are on pipeline-laying crews working right now.

It almost seems like something largely symbolic that's been spun up, just so Obama or whoever can concede it as a chess pawn.

SphericalTime: FTA: "Frankly, the fact that the president doesn't like it makes me like it even more," said Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, a leader of House conservatives, who added he had supported an earlier version, as well.

Classy. Very classy. Can't you tell how serious he takes his job to work toward the benefit of all Americans?

Well, clearly since it is impossible to make the situation better so long as His Muslin Lordship Taxbongo is ruling with his Marxist Iron fist and laying waste to whole swaths of good American jobs; the only, rational, sensible, patriotic, American answer is to do everything humanly possible to further ruin America (not that our Kenyan overlord needs much help!) and open the eyes of the good, simple, hardworking, salt of the earth American people (you know, morons) to the havoc this attractive and successful administration is reaping on our once beautiful nation.

I say this man is an American Hero; willing to make (other people) sacrifice everything; to tear down what he loves most (Other than bribes, kickbacks, gifts from lobbyists, the feeling of absolute power of men, and male hookers) in order to save it from this most terrible threat.

Tyee: The pipeline will keep energy cost down, create lots of jobs and blah blah blah

If it's such a slam-dunk, pass it on its own merits. Don't attach it to an unrelated payroll tax bill and try to strong-arm it through.