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2011-12-09 05:05:13 PM

namegoeshere: THIS is why so many are so insistant on not blaming the victim. Because in the past, victims were blamed. And it was awful.


Those are great points and I completely agree with you but that ad was not blaming victims. In fact it's helping women be informed of one of the ways to STAY in control of their bodies. The feminists should be applauding it, not trying to ban it.
 
2011-12-09 05:07:00 PM

oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.


Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.
 
2011-12-09 05:11:18 PM

mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.


No, neither the thread nor the ad was blaming the victims.

It was just the hyper overreactionaries that were asserting that, and people responding (perhaps foolishly) to their aggressively offered misconceptions.
 
2011-12-09 05:18:46 PM
So we all agree that bleary drunk guy + bleary drunk girl, with regrets next morning= not rape.

B.) Guy* + passed out chick=rape. We want to avoid that type of rape. (Buffy made a good episode with this, PSA attempted this)

*Obviously Sober guy leads to rapey-rape in this situation, and we all agree.
Drunk guy leads to irresponsible douche-baggery sure, but in this specific situation, would it be rape?

Personally, I would think if lady is incapable of saying yes or moving, yes, this would be rape.

C. What about the girls who drank soda at the party, hosted by nameless sports famous people, and ended up drugged and not so happy on a bathroom floor?
Personally, that the ad specifically targets situation B and completely avoids C is wreckless.
If you want a good target:

You don't have to drink at a drinking party to get hurt.
When people are drinking to excess, they're not going to help keep you from harm.

When you drink your judgement is clouded. Can you be sure she really said "yes"?
 
2011-12-09 05:19:15 PM

mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.


I think you've missed all the posts people said about preventive actions do not reduce the culpability of the attacker, but preventative actions do reduce the incidence of the attack.

There is absolutely zero reason to reduce or ignore education to increase the prevention of the attack, unless of course you like there to be as many victims as possible.

The attacker bears the blame, the victim however should be given as many tools and as much knowledge as possible to reduce the number of possible attacks to occur.

Basically what many and you seem to be saying is that to provide tools and knowledge is to blame and insult the victim and assuming that all who do so want to restrict and bring down said victims. While there are likely those who DO such things to a negative impact, there are many who would rather see victims empowered to take control of a poor situation and cease being victims and instead be one who defended themselves or avoided a situation and can not have to endure the problems that come with being 'just another victim' that so many seem to want people to remain.
 
2011-12-09 05:20:26 PM

Knara: mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.

No, neither the thread nor the ad was blaming the victims.

It was just the hyper overreactionaries that were asserting that, and people responding (perhaps foolishly) to their aggressively offered misconceptions.


We also talked about how liqour store guy is trying to rape Here to Help
 
2011-12-09 05:21:19 PM
"Never stick your dick in crazy." Everyone understands that rule. Anyone who breaks that rule expects that there will be negative consequences as a result. The rule is generally accepted.

"Never stick your dick in drunk." Some people understand that rule. Many who break that rule are surprised that there may be negative consequences as a result. The rule is debated ad nauseam on fark.

It's basically the same rule for the same reason in both cases. Just follow the rule and the world will be a much better place.
 
2011-12-09 05:23:51 PM

tlars699: What about the girls who drank soda at the party, hosted by nameless sports famous people, and ended up drugged and not so happy on a bathroom floor?


I dunno about in the US, but a recent study in the UK of 1000+ ER admissions where the presenting suspected they had been drugged at a party via a drink resulted in not a single instance where the bloodwork showed any sort of foreign substance.

Does this mean that it never happens? Surely not. But it certainly seems to be rather uncommon.

That said, why anyone would accept a drink from someone they don't know, man or woman, in a situation where it would be a one-on-one risk, is beyond my ability to comprehend.
 
2011-12-09 05:26:28 PM

FrylockMastershake: We also talked about how liqour store guy is trying to rape Here to Help


Clearly the most important conversation of all.

Click to enlarge: "Never stick your dick in drunk." Some people understand that rule. Many who break that rule are surprised that there may be negative consequences as a result. The rule is debated ad nauseam on fark.


What about your girlfriend/wife who likes to get drunk and fark?
 
2011-12-09 05:32:07 PM

Knara: Click to enlarge: "Never stick your dick in drunk." Some people understand that rule. Many who break that rule are surprised that there may be negative consequences as a result. The rule is debated ad nauseam on fark.

What about your girlfriend/wife who likes to get drunk and fark?


Have her sign a "Consent to Fark While Intoxicated" release form prior to drinking.
 
2011-12-09 05:35:48 PM

scottydoesntknow: Knara: Click to enlarge: "Never stick your dick in drunk." Some people understand that rule. Many who break that rule are surprised that there may be negative consequences as a result. The rule is debated ad nauseam on fark.

What about your girlfriend/wife who likes to get drunk and fark?

Have her sign a "Consent to Fark While Intoxicated" release form prior to drinking.


Why, that shouldn't cause any relationship strife at all!
 
2011-12-09 05:37:03 PM

mooseyfate: I think his point was more along the lines of, "I'm so clever mcfunny because I joke about rape like it's not a problem for the victims and those dummy women should listen to me because then no one would get raped".


Yes, because, "there are certain simple strategies that women can implement to minimize their risk of being raped," means exactly the same thing as "those dummy women should listen to me because then no one would get raped."

You know what? You're absolutely right. I think rape is the funniest frickin' thing ever, and I hope my mom, my wife, and my daughters all get to experience it. To that end, I'm going to make sure that I tell my daughters that they are free to drink all they want, and get as falling-down, pants-wettingly drunk as they care to, in a room full of strangers if that's what floats their boat, because dammit, if anyone takes advantage of their inebriated state, it's that person's fault, and not theirs. I don't even want to plant the smallest seed of suspicion in their fertile minds that their choices and behaviors might swing their probability of being raped one way or the other, because they're smart enough to figure out that--as Mr. Miagi pointed out in Karate Kid part 2--sometimes the best way to avoid a punch is to not be there, and once they figure that out, my chances of being able to laugh at them after being raped start to diminish.

And when my friends come to me afterward and say, Geez, WB, you sure were a dumbass for not giving your daughters a few pointers for how to avoid risky behavior, I'll be sure to tell them that I absolutely would never give them that sort of information, because suggesting that a victim of a crime had any sort of agency at all in her victimization is exactly the same thing as telling them that they are entirely at fault for it. According to my good internet pal, mooseyfate.
 
2011-12-09 05:47:13 PM

Contribution Corsair: mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.

I think you've missed all the posts people said about preventive actions do not reduce the culpability of the attacker, but preventative actions do reduce the incidence of the attack.

There is absolutely zero reason to reduce or ignore education to increase the prevention of the attack, unless of course you like there to be as many victims as possible.

The attacker bears the blame, the victim however should be given as many tools and as much knowledge as possible to reduce the number of possible attacks to occur.

Basically what many and you seem to be saying is that to provide tools and knowledge is to blame and insult the victim and assuming that all who do so want to restrict and bring down said victims. While there are likely those who DO such things to a negative impact, there are many who would rather see victims empowered to take control of a poor situation and cease being victims and instead be one who defended themselves or avoided a situation and can not have to endure the problems that come with being 'just another victim' that so many seem to want people to remain.


Guess that's what I get for Farking angry. Sorry for stirring up shiat, people, guess I'll be back when I'm not being a total dick.
 
2011-12-09 05:49:07 PM

Knara: Click to enlarge: "Never stick your dick in drunk." Some people understand that rule. Many who break that rule are surprised that there may be negative consequences as a result. The rule is debated ad nauseam on fark.

What about your girlfriend/wife who likes to get drunk and fark?


What about your girlfriend/wife who is crazy and likes to fark?

It is assumed, in both cases, that the dickee is not well known to the dicker. Otherwise there would be no need for the rule since the consequences should be understood prior to act.
 
2011-12-09 05:52:06 PM
Speaking as a guy here: You know, if the ad featured a man and said, in effect, "don't get shiat-faced drunk in a gay bar because you'll likely get dragged into the bathroom and sodomized", I for one wouldn't have a problem with it. So what exactly is the problem these women have with this ad?
 
2011-12-09 05:55:42 PM

Knara: tlars699: What about the girls who drank soda at the party, hosted by nameless sports famous people, and ended up drugged and not so happy on a bathroom floor?

I dunno about in the US, but a recent study in the UK of 1000+ ER admissions where the presenting suspected they had been drugged at a party via a drink resulted in not a single instance where the bloodwork showed any sort of foreign substance.

Does this mean that it never happens? Surely not. But it certainly seems to be rather uncommon.

That said, why anyone would accept a drink from someone they don't know, man or woman, in a situation where it would be a one-on-one risk, is beyond my ability to comprehend.


Ever tell your buddy, "watch my drink while I pee" and then find it on the table, while they are on the dance floor? Ever have drinks purchased for you, because you're hot?
And its not just a one on one situation, it's at a party/bar. Sometimes people are targeted and cornered/raped in a variety of mental states from these crowded places. Sometimes they're cornered only through physical means, sometimes through chemical/physical means.

Link (new window)

On a 60 minutes special, there was one girl targeted by her BFF from high school, and when she was found after diligent search completed by her parents, the police (who insisted that she had only run away) ended up arresting her for obstructing justice.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1596778&page=2#.TuKRMrJkDJM. (new window)
 
2011-12-09 06:01:04 PM
Sounds like someone needs a good old fashioned 1630 on a Friday afternoon Safety Brief!
 
2011-12-09 06:04:56 PM

WindBreaker: mooseyfate: I think his point was more along the lines of, "I'm so clever mcfunny because I joke about rape like it's not a problem for the victims and those dummy women should listen to me because then no one would get raped".

Yes, because, "there are certain simple strategies that women can implement to minimize their risk of being raped," means exactly the same thing as "those dummy women should listen to me because then no one would get raped."

You know what? You're absolutely right. I think rape is the funniest frickin' thing ever, and I hope my mom, my wife, and my daughters all get to experience it. To that end, I'm going to make sure that I tell my daughters that they are free to drink all they want, and get as falling-down, pants-wettingly drunk as they care to, in a room full of strangers if that's what floats their boat, because dammit, if anyone takes advantage of their inebriated state, it's that person's fault, and not theirs. I don't even want to plant the smallest seed of suspicion in their fertile minds that their choices and behaviors might swing their probability of being raped one way or the other, because they're smart enough to figure out that--as Mr. Miagi pointed out in Karate Kid part 2--sometimes the best way to avoid a punch is to not be there, and once they figure that out, my chances of being able to laugh at them after being raped start to diminish.

And when my friends come to me afterward and say, Geez, WB, you sure were a dumbass for not giving your daughters a few pointers for how to avoid risky behavior, I'll be sure to tell them that I absolutely would never give them that sort of information, because suggesting that a victim of a crime had any sort of agency at all in her victimization is exactly the same thing as telling them that they are entirely at fault for it. According to my good internet pal, mooseyfate.


Here's where I think this all went awry. My boobies was a reference to someone else's post near the beginning of the thread who was condemning the likes of Honest Bender for posting that rape was also the victims fault (which he totally did), and by the time I posted, the entire thread had gone a way different direction. So yes, I do still believe that blaming victims is the utmost in dickhead-douchebag behavior, and I do also believe that educating women on how to better look out for themselves is a good thing. That being said, feel free to keep shiatting on me. I've deserved worse, so I'll just consider it karma.
 
2011-12-09 06:11:33 PM
God zealots are stupid. The only way that could be taken as the victim's fault is if you are a complete and utter idiot.

Then again, I come from Australia where we have some truly shocking ads. A warning against alcohol-fuelled date rape would be part of the after-school programming. (actually, the ad is about drug-fuelled date rape here, but don't let that get in the way of a good analogy!)

These people seriously need to grow a pair & realise that they are all on the same freaking team.
 
2011-12-09 06:17:10 PM

Mouser: Speaking as a guy here: You know, if the ad featured a man and said, in effect, "don't get shiat-faced drunk in a gay bar because you'll likely get dragged into the bathroom and sodomized", I for one wouldn't have a problem with it. So what exactly is the problem these women have with this ad?


1.)Just because you get drunk does not mean you will be sodomized. Gay people aren't like that as a general rule. There are exceptions, but that's not a stereotype anyone should have of anybody.

2.) The problem is the perception of the girl: This poster can be summed up in: "Only irresponsibly drunk people get raped." Which is not the case, and does blame the victim.
It also implies that it is only "rape" if the girl says no/is able to say no.
 
2011-12-09 06:17:13 PM

here to help: namegoeshere: THIS is why so many are so insistant on not blaming the victim. Because in the past, victims were blamed. And it was awful.

Those are great points and I completely agree with you but that ad was not blaming victims. In fact it's helping women be informed of one of the ways to STAY in control of their bodies. The feminists should be applauding it, not trying to ban it.


I didn't have a problem with that ad. I was saying, the "blame the victim" taken to the extreme, is understandable.

I am teaching my female spawn how to make good choices about such things as alchohol.
 
2011-12-09 06:18:14 PM
So if a guy gets drunk and gets into a car wreck, it's all his fault for getting behind the wheel...

But if a woman gets drunk and gets into a wreck with a couple of cocks, "it's not her fault"?

Yes, I know, apples and oranges, but it all falls into personal responsibility. Get drunk and do anything and you SHOULD be held accountable for it no matter if it's a car or a cock...
 
2011-12-09 06:20:33 PM

namegoeshere:

I didn't have a problem with that ad. I was saying, the "blame the victim" taken to the extreme, is understandable.



DON'T blame. Don't.

Dammit...
 
2011-12-09 06:21:58 PM
Also, people who attempt to rape someone should be properly labelled as rapists. Not attempted rapists.
If you attempt to rape someone, the only thing stopping you was the other person getting away, aka LUCK.

Attempted rape cases should be tried as full rape cases, end of story.
 
2011-12-09 06:23:26 PM
I think we agree on about 98% of the issue, mooseyfate. And I appreciate your passion. Absolutely, any assessment of blame or fault on the part of a rape victim is adding insult to injury. And I can see how giving women the heads-up that if they don't go beyond tipsy they have a statistically better chance of making it home unscathed than if they get totally hammered can be seen as passing judgment--blame, fault, however you want to slice it--on those women who got hammered and got raped.

Hell, I'll even go so far as to stipulate that there are some people who *do* think and advocate that if a woman got shiat-faced in a bar, she deserves *whatever* fate befalls her. Those people suck. I'm comfortable thinking that you'd agree.

And the damn thing is, statistics don't come with guarantees. A teetotaling woman who dresses conservatively and sticks to well-lit paths in good neighborhoods might still become a rape victim, while a total skank who dresses like a tramp, gets totally wasted, and walks dark paths in bad neighborhoods to get home might never have any sort of misadventure. But the odds still favor avoiding unnecessary risks. For my loved ones, I'm suggesting moderation and caution. Not paranoia, just caution.

Hope you have a great weekend. Glad it ended in relative harmony. Let's all gather 'round the bar and sing a rousing chorus of kum-ba-ya!
 
2011-12-09 06:50:25 PM
I have a friend, who is a guy, that told me a story about a fat chick getting all on his junk in a pool when everyone there was shatfaced. He said he got so tired of fighting her off he just let her fark him in the pool. He says he was raped...I laughed at him.
 
2011-12-09 06:58:17 PM
Enough PC bullshiat. If you get so falling down wasted you lose your ability of informed consent, then you contributed to what happened to you. Do you *deserve* what happened? No. I would hope adults can understand how both of these can be the case simultaneously.

No different than passing out and having somebody steal your purse. You incapacitated yourself, and something bad happened. The wise woman will realize it's better to remain in control.
 
2011-12-09 07:32:00 PM

awgsilyari: Enough PC bullshiat. If you get so falling down wasted you lose your ability of informed consent, then you contributed to what happened to you. Do you *deserve* what happened? No. I would hope adults can understand how both of these can be the case simultaneously.

No different than passing out and having somebody steal your purse. You incapacitated yourself, and something bad happened. The wise woman will realize it's better to remain in control.


Yes, but they could have made a different statement on their poster to encourage that sort of behavior.

As in: What's better: a.) Feeling the momentary freedom of letting the world go in a drunken haze?
b.) Waking up and knowing exactly what happened last night?

Be safe. Practice responsible drinking habits.
 
2011-12-09 07:33:51 PM
Friends don't let friends go home alone.

C'mon, people, I've got a million of these....
 
2011-12-09 07:36:04 PM

awgsilyari: Enough PC bullshiat. If you get so falling down wasted you lose your ability of informed consent, then you contributed to what happened to you. Do you *deserve* what happened? No. I would hope adults can understand how both of these can be the case simultaneously.

No different than passing out and having somebody steal your purse. You incapacitated yourself, and something bad happened. The wise woman will realize it's better to remain in control.


www.bentclouds.com

Deserves got nothing to do with it.
 
2011-12-09 07:38:14 PM

namegoeshere: I didn't have a problem with that ad. I was saying, the "blame the victim" taken to the extreme, is understandable.


Yeah figured it was more of a general statement, as was my response. I think it is a great ad. Reminds me of one a few years ago that showed a teen girl passed out next to a toilet with a message essentially saying "Having a good time is great but over doing it can suck". Obviously I'm paraphrasing but the visual and the message was damned good IMO. Also part of that campaign focused on young guys getting too blotto'd and starting stupid scraps.

Whatever... this ad is good. Anyone who thinks it's blaming the victim is an idiot, has an agenda or is parroting someone else's agenda's talking points.

Good luck to you and your kids. This type of ad would be unnecessary if more parents were frank and forward thinking with their children. Particularly the parents of the BOYS who think rape is OK.
 
2011-12-09 07:50:09 PM

Harry Zach OBalls: I have a friend, who is a guy, that told me a story about a fat chick getting all on his junk in a pool when everyone there was shatfaced. He said he got so tired of fighting her off he just let her fark him in the pool. He says he was raped...I laughed at him.


It's pretty hard to rape a soft dick.

he wanted some fatty love...
 
2011-12-09 08:00:47 PM

namegoeshere: Read Lucky by Alice Sebold. (new window) She was walking home one night and was grabbed and violently raped by a total stranger. The guy was a known criminal and a skuzbucket. And not-white which I only mention because the criminal justice system was more racist then than it is today, which is saying something. She was a white college student.


Well... That was horrific, and that was just the first chapter. I like how almost instantly, she goes from a rather dispassionate (as much as she can) description of the rape to a very surreal description of how her peers react to HER as "that girl". Chilling.
 
2011-12-09 08:01:20 PM

awgsilyari: Enough PC bullshiat. If you get so falling down wasted you lose your ability of informed consent, then you contributed to what happened to you. Do you *deserve* what happened? No. I would hope adults can understand how both of these can be the case simultaneously.


The difference between stupid and intelligent people-and this is true whether or not they are well-educated-is that intelligent people can handle subtlety. They are not baffled by ambiguous or even contradictory situations-in fact, they expect them and are apt to become suspicious when things seem overly straightforward.

/I completely agree with you, btw.
 
2011-12-09 08:16:25 PM

mooseyfate: Contribution Corsair: mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.

I think you've missed all the posts people said about preventive actions do not reduce the culpability of the attacker, but preventative actions do reduce the incidence of the attack.

There is absolutely zero reason to reduce or ignore education to increase the prevention of the attack, unless of course you like there to be as many victims as possible.

The attacker bears the blame, the victim however should be given as many tools and as much knowledge as possible to reduce the number of possible attacks to occur.

Basically what many and you seem to be saying is that to provide tools and knowledge is to blame and insult the victim and assuming that all who do so want to restrict and bring down said victims. While there are likely those who DO such things to a negative impact, there are many who would rather see victims empowered to take control of a poor situation and cease being victims and instead be one who defended themselves or avoided a situation and can not have to endure the problems that come with being 'just another victim' that so many seem to want people to remain.

Guess that's what I get for Farking angry. Sorry for stirring up shiat, people, guess I'll be back when I'm not being a total dick.


A month of TF for both of you! Contribution Corsair, for explaining it better than I could, and mooseyfate, for owning up to misreading a thread instead of blindly defending yourself, which is more than most Farkers would do. Merry Christmas to both of you!
 
2011-12-09 08:28:36 PM
Thanks much!

Never thought a rape thread would get me TF.
 
2011-12-09 08:31:00 PM

oh_please: mooseyfate: Contribution Corsair: mooseyfate: oh_please: mooseyfate: I'm not talking about chicks that farked a guy while drunk and regretted it. I'm talking about victims that were raped, often brutally and sometimes more than once in one sitting.

I agree with you, and so does everyone else in the thread, but that's not what we're talking about. Duh.

Then what are we talking about? 'cause I totally thought we were talking about how shiatty it is to blame rape victims for being raped.

I think you've missed all the posts people said about preventive actions do not reduce the culpability of the attacker, but preventative actions do reduce the incidence of the attack.

There is absolutely zero reason to reduce or ignore education to increase the prevention of the attack, unless of course you like there to be as many victims as possible.

The attacker bears the blame, the victim however should be given as many tools and as much knowledge as possible to reduce the number of possible attacks to occur.

Basically what many and you seem to be saying is that to provide tools and knowledge is to blame and insult the victim and assuming that all who do so want to restrict and bring down said victims. While there are likely those who DO such things to a negative impact, there are many who would rather see victims empowered to take control of a poor situation and cease being victims and instead be one who defended themselves or avoided a situation and can not have to endure the problems that come with being 'just another victim' that so many seem to want people to remain.

Guess that's what I get for Farking angry. Sorry for stirring up shiat, people, guess I'll be back when I'm not being a total dick.

A month of TF for both of you! Contribution Corsair, for explaining it better than I could, and mooseyfate, for owning up to misreading a thread instead of blindly defending yourself, which is more than most Farkers would do. Merry Christmas to both of you!


You mean all I had to do to get TF was pump the brakes on my crazy train? Woo hoo! And thanks for the free month!
 
2011-12-09 08:31:34 PM
A much more effective anti-drinking advert would go something like "She totally wanted to, but he couldn't get it up ... Help stop whiskey dick"
 
2011-12-09 10:10:35 PM

tlars699: Ever tell your buddy, "watch my drink while I pee" and then find it on the table, while they are on the dance floor? Ever have drinks purchased for you, because you're hot?


There is no situation where it is okay to accept a drink from someone you don't know. If it is unattended in a public place, leave it and get another one.
 
2011-12-12 11:37:37 AM

Knara: tlars699: Ever tell your buddy, "watch my drink while I pee" and then find it on the table, while they are on the dance floor? Ever have drinks purchased for you, because you're hot?

There is no situation where it is okay to accept a drink from someone you don't know. If it is unattended in a public place, leave it and get another one.


people buy people drinks all the time. just be at the bar. the bartender is not going to slip something in your drink. I accept drinks from strangers all the time. I also buy drinks for strangers all the time. It's what happens when you're in a bar.

/ if you can't trust your bartender, you can't trust anyone.
 
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