How about pulling the ad on television that has the girl throwing up into the toilet? I have to mute the TV whenever it goes to commercial break or else I'll start throwing up too from hearing the sound.

Rapers gonna rape.

Fap

Critics said it was another example of suggesting victims are to blame for rape.

Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

Slives: So who has the link to de-slideshow the 285 page Mugshot roundup?
I did the first 20 or so and there seems to be some very luz-worthy ones in there.

There are a bunch of good ones, 72 is the best

How else is a guy to get laid?

Pantsu pantsu pantsu pantsu

In the words of Ogden Nash, "Candy is Dandy but Liquor is Quicker"

sharp knees. wouldnt hit it

Drunk man wakes up naked next to 300 pound woman: "Yikes, that was a mistake. I should drink less."

Drunk woman wakes up naked next to 300 pound man: "Yikes, that was a mistake. If I say I was raped and ruin this guy's life I won't feel like such an idiot."

I suppose an ad for rape isnt supposed to give me a boner, is it? or maybe it is.

Looks like a tube top and not panties.

/I'll leave now

There was a little too much fervor about this ad. Sure, it could be seen as victim blaming, but only if you assume the omission of a direct "ALSO DO NOT RAPE" message is tacit approval for the act. I mean I understand the idea of making sure we don't ba a victim-blaming culture, and that's important. But that doesn't mean every statement made that doesn't specifically qualify that is bad.

I mean clearly robbers are the wrong ones in a robbery - but we still lock our doors and don't go down alleys at night. In this case, OBVIOUSLY the rapist is the main issue. But so is getting schwasted and losing control.

/oblig

Ah, Jezebel bloggers:
"Rape is not just a bad thing that happens to someone after drinking too much," wrote Erin Gloria Ryan. "It's a deliberate act on the part of the rapist, a violation of another person committed solely because the rapist wanted to rape. The sooner we acknowledge this, the sooner we'll be rid of stupid, finger wagging ads like these."

Problem is, sometimes rape is just a horny frat-douche screwing his too-drunk-to-protest date (hence the term "date rape"). In those cases, alcohol consumption IS to blame. What she is implying is that the guy who banged his drunk girl-friend would have forcibly raped here if she was sober - and that doesn't pass any sort of logic test.

Women like to get drunk and have sex as much as men do.

Brother_Mouzone: I suppose an ad for rape isnt supposed to give me a boner, is it? or maybe it is.

It's supposed to give you a boner and then make you feel bad about it

/I still feel bad for letting the Council die in Mass Effect 1, so maybe I'm not the target audience here
//those guys were dicks, though, felt worse for the crew

Honest Bender: Critics said it was another example of suggesting victims are to blame for rape.

Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

Personal responsibility? Come on now, this is FARK!

Honest Bender: Critics said it was another example of suggesting victims are to blame for rape.

Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

The thing is... Well. Hrm. I would NEVER say a victim is to blame for rape, my god. But if we ignore the fact that being drunk CAN get you into a situation where you are more easily overpowered or put into a situation where you can get raped.... Then we are being irresponsible. I actually thought the PSA wasn't that bad.

Mind you, I'd argue it was too brutal in the sense that it would remind victims far too viscerally of what happened to them, but I think the message in itself is valid.

She comes in colors everywhere: Women like to get drunk and have sex as much as men do.

Yeah but they don't like waking up the next day.

Or getting preggers/VD cause they were both too drunk to operate a cock-sock.

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Ah, Jezebel bloggers:
"Rape is not just a bad thing that happens to someone after drinking too much," wrote Erin Gloria Ryan. "It's a deliberate act on the part of the rapist, a violation of another person committed solely because the rapist wanted to rape. The sooner we acknowledge this, the sooner we'll be rid of stupid, finger wagging ads like these."

Problem is, sometimes rape is just a horny frat-douche screwing his too-drunk-to-protest date (hence the term "date rape"). In those cases, alcohol consumption IS to blame. What she is implying is that the guy who banged his drunk girl-friend would have forcibly raped here if she was sober - and that doesn't pass any sort of logic test.

Thank you. This was exactly what I thought.

lol @ them saying it's a "blame the victim" mentality

Hey no one said it was ENTIRELY their fault....but if you drank till you passed out and then got raped...you have a hand in what happened too.

Just because one side is partly to blame does NOT indemnify the other party.

At the end of the day it doesn't matter who you point the finger at...you still got raped.

"She didn't want to do it, but she couldn't say no"...Because she was drunk???

I've been all kinds of F'ed up and and never had a problem telling some one to fark off.

/I am a dude, but I don't think that matters

Honest Bender: Critics said it was another example of suggesting victims are to blame for rape.

Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

Did you ever stop and consider that, while we may think the victim is partially to blame if their car gets stolen in a bad part of town, or if they get beat up mouthing off in a bar, or if they get mugged while texting on their iPhone, we don't suggest that any of these reduce the criminal liability of the perpetrator. We also don't make victims of theft, assault, or robbery pay for their own investigations. We also don't bring up past instances when they've driven a car or been in that part of town to suggest they wanted it. We also don't suggest they liked it, or just had regrets the next morning about getting robbed.

Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Ive had people close to me sexually assaulted, and in every case they were shiat faced.

so.. yeah.

Public Service Announcements: Teaching young boys how to rape girls since 2011.

Remember kids, just because chloroform works, doesn't mean you should use it.

Honest Bender: Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

Absolutely not. Women aren't objects, they're our atleast equals. Except when it comes to war, management, baby leave, underage sex, and especially rapity-rape, then they are our betters since they could never wever think of, lest do such things.

damn i love pics of women with their panties around their ankles

nsfw (new window)

Honest Bender: Critics said it was another example of suggesting victims are to blame for rape.

Did you ever stop and consider that, in some cases, the victim might be partially to blame for getting herself into that kind of situation to begin with?

Yes, but then I remembered that the victim is never to blame, even when they kind of are, because blaming the victim is bad. Especially when the victim is a minority or a female.

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Problem is, sometimes rape is just a horny frat-douche screwing his too-drunk-to-protest date (hence the term "date rape"). In those cases, alcohol consumption IS to blame.

Actually, in research of serial rapists, they tend to intentionally get their dates too drunk to protest, and know exactly what they're doing. Look up "predator theory". The "horny frat douche" who is likewise drunk is primarily a myth.

Theaetetus: Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Jesus dude, slow your roll a little. That's way too reactionary.

I think its the PA LCB trying to reinforce its whole "we are the only force that can properly control demon rum" thing.

LasersHurt: I mean clearly robbers are the wrong ones in a robbery - but we still lock our doors and don't go down alleys at night.

But when someone's house is robbed, we don't suggest they were asking for it, or really gave away their stuff and then had regrets the next day. If caught, the robber doesn't try to use consent as a defense.

I fail to see where blaming the victim and suggesting not making risky decisions are mutually inclusive. Seeing the world in absolutes, i.e. black and white, is a sign of stupidity IMHO.

Oh_Enough_Already: Drunk man wakes up naked next to 300 pound woman: "Yikes, that was a mistake. I should drink less."

Drunk woman wakes up naked next to 300 pound man: "Yikes, that was a mistake. If I say I was raped and ruin this guy's life I won't feel like such an idiot."

bearsbearsbears

LasersHurt: Theaetetus: Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Jesus dude, slow your roll a little. That's way too reactionary.

But not wrong.

Theaetetus: Did you ever stop and consider that, while we may think the victim is partially to blame if their car gets stolen in a bad part of town, or if they get beat up mouthing off in a bar, or if they get mugged while texting on their iPhone, we don't suggest that any of these reduce the criminal liability of the perpetrator.

Hello dumbass, we suggest those things all the time and in no instance does it reduce the criminal liability of the perpetrator. However, if you don't want to get mugged, don't walk around texting and not paying attention.

Lessons taught on how to mitigate risk does not equal reducing criminal liability.

Theaetetus: LasersHurt: I mean clearly robbers are the wrong ones in a robbery - but we still lock our doors and don't go down alleys at night.

But when someone's house is robbed, we don't suggest they were asking for it, or really gave away their stuff and then had regrets the next day. If caught, the robber doesn't try to use consent as a defense.

I know your heart's in the right place, but emotionally arguing that we should never, ever talk about the victims of crime is just silly.

We have classes on self defense, securing a home, etc, etc for a reason - OF COURSE its the criminal's fault a crime happens, but that's no reason not to be honest about the rest of the situation.

Savoir-Faire: Theaetetus: Did you ever stop and consider that, while we may think the victim is partially to blame if their car gets stolen in a bad part of town, or if they get beat up mouthing off in a bar, or if they get mugged while texting on their iPhone, we don't suggest that any of these reduce the criminal liability of the perpetrator.

Hello dumbass, we suggest those things all the time and in no instance does it reduce the criminal liability of the perpetrator.

That's what I just said. You apparently agree with me. So, who exactly are you calling a dumbass?

Theaetetus: LasersHurt: Theaetetus: Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Jesus dude, slow your roll a little. That's way too reactionary.

But not wrong.

Yes. Yes it is wrong. Accusing him of "discouraging women from going out in public" because he suggested getting wasted can lead you to bad situations is ridiculous and inappropriate.

LasersHurt: Theaetetus: LasersHurt: I mean clearly robbers are the wrong ones in a robbery - but we still lock our doors and don't go down alleys at night.

But when someone's house is robbed, we don't suggest they were asking for it, or really gave away their stuff and then had regrets the next day. If caught, the robber doesn't try to use consent as a defense.

I know your heart's in the right place, but emotionally arguing that we should never, ever talk about the victims of crime is just silly.

I never said that, though. And I'd agree that we should talk about it. So, what exactly is the point of your strawman?

We have classes on self defense, securing a home, etc, etc for a reason - OF COURSE its the criminal's fault a crime happens, but that's no reason not to be honest about the rest of the situation.

Yes, but let's be honest about the criminal, too - only in sexual assault cases do we consider actions of the victim to reduce liability or mitigate the responsibility of the perpetrator. Not so in robbery, theft, etc.

atomsmoosher: I think its the PA LCB trying to reinforce its whole "we are the only force that can properly control demon rum" thing.

Demon rum? Who makes that brand? Sounds like fun!

LasersHurt: Theaetetus: Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Jesus dude, slow your roll a little. That's way too reactionary.

It's Friday, soldier. If you're not drunk and reactionary by noon I'm putting you on report.

Is this the thread where we act as apologists for rapists, or the thread where we hate on the women? I always forget.

LasersHurt: Theaetetus: LasersHurt: Theaetetus: Even if you think the victim's partially to blame, that's irrelevant, because it doesn't reduce the liability of the rapist. So why bring up your douchey holier-than-thou "she's partly to blame" opinion, unless you have an ulterior motive, such as discouraging women from going out in public and participating in society?

Jesus dude, slow your roll a little. That's way too reactionary.

But not wrong.

Yes. Yes it is wrong. Accusing him of "discouraging women from going out in public" because he suggested getting wasted can lead you to bad situations is ridiculous and inappropriate.

Not really. It's one of the more common ulterior motives for that type of rhetoric. It's also why it tends to get parroted by social conservatives.

Dear Diary.... Jackpot.

Theaetetus: The "horny frat douche" who is likewise drunk is primarily a myth.

This may be the only time on fark I've ever heard it alleged that horny frat douches do not exist in a state of near-perpetual drunkenness.

Wanna see something interesting about rape.

Link (new window)

The first think thought of when I saw this was some biatch is really gonna fark over some guy and claim she was raped using this a proof.