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2011-12-09 10:47:10 AM
"they tried co-op the movement, but they were co-opted.''

But, the preceding story was not based on any actual people or events, and any similarity to actual people or events was merely coincidental. Like that time where famous singer Jack Michaelson was molesting children
 
2011-12-09 11:07:48 AM
It was called: The Awful Truth and it played during 1999 and 2000. (I think the Bush Administration outlawed it).
 
2011-12-09 12:01:13 PM
They don't appear to be occupying Chicago anymore, all that is left at the corner they used to camp at is stains from patchouli oil and dna from furtive Freedom finger-bangs.
 
2011-12-09 12:01:25 PM
They should sue for trademark infringement. They ought to start raising money for a legal team to defend their brand.
 
2011-12-09 12:04:25 PM
God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.
 
2011-12-09 12:06:04 PM
Seems people are moving on from the OWS movement. I hear less and less daily, and it hasn't come up in a conversation here in a couple weeks.

And no, I'm not commenting on the merits of said group. Just the feeling I'm getting from others.
 
2011-12-09 12:13:43 PM
By the way, seems like the farking Squatters don't have much use for other people's First Amendment rights.

Wiggle fingers DOWN!

/||\ /||\
 
2011-12-09 12:16:04 PM
AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas
 
2011-12-09 12:17:19 PM
AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

I don't know if you heard, but there aren't exactly alot of jobs available these days - and most of the people who are hiring pay their new employees just barely enough to commute to and from work. Having to pick and choose which bills you'll pay now and which bills you'll pay next week (with a late fee) is not fun.

And then there's the "job creators" who won't hire that recent college grad for a $7.25/hr job at Burger Town because he'll quit the moment that a $7.26/hr job becomes available across the street at Cluckin' Bell, thus leaving the college grad without any means by which to pay back his student loans which he got so he could get the degree he needed to get the job he wanted, only to find out nobody's hiring in that field.

The banks, who got an interest-free loan from the taxpayers, aren't exactly helping things, what with their stinginess regarding giving loans to small businesses so they can hire a few more people and/or give raises to current employees.
 
2011-12-09 12:19:40 PM
CruJones: And no, I'm not commenting on the merits of said group. Just the feeling I'm getting from others.

I'm a supporter, but their refusal to propose action I think killed them in the end. "You opened the dailog and informed the public, great...now what should we do about it?"

I think the next big step is being taken by the Move to Amend group:

MoveToAmend.org

They already got the L.A. City Council to vote in support of a Constitutional amendment (on the website if you want to read it) that would nullify Citizen's United vs. FCC.
 
2011-12-09 12:23:18 PM
AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

Yeah, ditto the "what jobs?" comments. It took me five months of sending out two resumes a day to find one after leaving school. And it's still just as an office worker with a salary that is barely keeping me afloat. I couldn't afford to pay off my student loans with it, so was forced to file for Ch. 13.

But in this climate, I'm grateful.

So yeah, "occupy a job" isn't as easy as you think. That's one of the things they are protesting about.
 
2011-12-09 12:24:25 PM
OWS, you have been warned. Christopher Meloni has pepper spray and he knows how to use it. (new window)
 
2011-12-09 12:25:47 PM
halfof33: They don't appear to be occupying Chicago anymore, all that is left at the corner they used to camp at is stains from patchouli oil and dna from furtive Freedom finger-bangs.

dude, the other night I watched their online meeting live, it was the funniest thing I have ever seen. they spent over an hour debating whether to have a vote to vote if they should ban a dude who poured battery acid on someone. and then they debated whether to let doo rag use their shower facilities. it was so unorganized. I was dying. go back to bike messengering and art school, you dopes.
 
2011-12-09 12:26:31 PM
So it's this show from the other side:

sharetv.org

/now with POV 3D Pepper Spraying!
 
2011-12-09 12:27:49 PM
Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas


I know that jobs are tough to come by, I graduated at the height of the recession and had to get real bootstrappy to get a job right out of school. I also had to take a job for real shiat pay and long hours in order to get into the industry I wanted to be in. I also know a few of these OWSers and they have a warped perception on what kind of jobs are available to them. Several quit jobs as waiters because it was below them and they were trying to find jobs as art gallery curators while they made their music. Seriously. It's like that scene in Christmas Vacation when Eddie's wife explains that he's been unemployed for 7 years because he's holding out for a management position. This attitude towards employment is purely anecdotal and doesn't apply to all of them, just the few I know. It becomes easy to read the hundreds of other anecdotes around here, and the stories that these OWSers post about themselves and their individual aversion to holding down a job and lump them all together.
 
2011-12-09 12:29:22 PM
Ironic that people who occupied public space without a permit for months at a time feel vindicated crashing permitted use of that space for a few hours.

"exploiting the movement"... please.

You know that episode is about the dude who allegedly sexually assaulted the women there. It's a TV show produced by Dick Wolf. If O'Reilly is losing his shiat over the guy, he's probably on your side (new window)
 
2011-12-09 12:29:40 PM
Can we stop linking to NYPost articles? The damn site won't let me view content on my iPad without downloading their stupid app.

/also - fark OPDX
 
2011-12-09 12:30:20 PM
#Occupy#OccupyWallStreet

/doinkdoink
 
2011-12-09 12:30:24 PM
skullkrusher: Ironic that people who occupied public space without a permit for months at a time feel vindicated justified crashing permitted use of that space for a few hours.

word fixage
 
2011-12-09 12:32:01 PM
serial_crusher: "they tried co-op the movement, but they were co-opted.'

But, the preceding story was not based on any actual people or events, and any similarity to actual people or events was merely coincidental. Like that time where famous singer Jack Michaelson was molesting children


The difference is the "twist" at the end, which usually involves the victim shooting the just acquitted perp.
 
2011-12-09 12:33:51 PM
AmazinTim: It becomes easy to read the hundreds of other anecdotes around here,

Yes. Yes it is.

We are the 99%

Over 3200 anecdotes and counting.
 
2011-12-09 12:36:41 PM
Meh.

The novelty is over. Say what you have to say, then get out of the way. Keeping people from doing their job is taking away from society.

People can contribute to society, take more than they put in, or the worst: keep other people from contributing. These 'Occupiers' are more of the latter.
 
2011-12-09 12:40:41 PM
KiplingKat872: They already got the L.A. City Council to vote in support of a Constitutional amendment (on the website if you want to read it) that would nullify Citizen's United vs. FCC.

Wow, what a coup, that has almost as much impact as a fart in the wind.

By the way, I note that the Move to Amend crowd are completely ignoring the fact that Citizen's United vs. FCC also protects UNION's rights.

Curious that we never hear about that when the freaking campers are whining.
 
2011-12-09 12:42:57 PM
Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas


In the Great Depression people moved to take work. You go where the jobs are. Sometimes necessity forces you out of your comfort zone. If my job is building widgets and all the widget manufacturers move to BFE, I'm going to move to BFE when I need a job building widgets.

/my company is hiring and has been for the past 6 months, the majority of candidates lie on their resume and/or show little aptitude to learning our proprietary application
 
2011-12-09 12:45:34 PM
Hello and welocme to Fox's Occupy 4 a Million. I'm John Talkinghead and with me is Bill Backmeup. All our contestants are ready to go and on that small platform. The last one still there will either get one million dollars or a Wall Street job. Looks like the contestants are ready to go. Here comes the pepper spray.

Bill Backmeup: You know pepper spray is a vegetable

And used in many fine kitchens for the spicy extra. Looks like we lost a few to the pepper spray. Note the smart ones are pushing in to the center of the platform and using the others for a human shield. Very smart.

BB: It's every one for themselves.

Cops are using the water cannon. A few more are getting knocked off. We'll be down to the final few in no time. Check out Contestant Wendy. She's a single mom from Cleavland with over $100,000 in student loans. Her company moved to China last year so she's been unemployed. The water cannon fellas are really hosing her down.

BB: Next time wear a bra. Or don't.

Looks like we're down to our last three contestants. Here come the blindfolded cops swinging in with the riot batons. Smashy smashy! Oh! Andy from Chicago takes a shot to the skull. He's down. And Kenny from San Diego. Got hit from behind. Looks like Wendy is our winner. Come on down to the winner's circle Wendy.

Looks like you were nearly washed up in the water cannon round. Are the pups alright? Great. Well, as the winner, you can either take a million dollars or accept a job on Wall Street. The Wall Street job could be a Financial Account Representative. That is a 1.5 million dollar a year job with twice a year bonuses and the company will subsidize your housing here in New York City. What do you choose?

Wendy is going to face the Wall Street Wheel job! Here is the wheel. There is that Financial Representative Job right there. We hope you get it. Lots of other jobs though. Give the wheel a big spin.

BB: Of course we didn't mention this part, lady. Just spin it.

Round and round it goes. Oh! You just missed that Financial Rep job. Bill tell her about her new job!

BB: You just got hired as a Data Control Clerk. Ever wondered who loads the office printers? Who distributes the reports and who carries back up tapes to the vault? We wonder no more. You do! This job is a Wall Street hot job with possible advancements in to Information Technology or Office Management but just don't count on it. It comes with Causal Fridays and yearly reviews. No raises though as most people leave this type of job in less than a year. Total value of this job is $22,500!

Well you won but you didn't win big. Good luck with that Data Control Job Wendy. This Fox's Occupy 4 A Million see you next week unless we get bumped by American Idol, X Factor, X Idol, American Factor or House in Space. Till then, Occupy!
 
2011-12-09 12:46:24 PM
KiplingKat872: AmazinTim: It becomes easy to read the hundreds of other anecdotes around here,

Yes. Yes it is.

We are the 99%

Over 3200 anecdotes and counting.


28.media.tumblr.com

static.howstuffworks.com
Approves, but would like fair compensation for the use of his work...

(How did that get by the mods at that site?)
 
2011-12-09 12:46:27 PM
halfof33: KiplingKat872: They already got the L.A. City Council to vote in support of a Constitutional amendment (on the website if you want to read it) that would nullify Citizen's United vs. FCC.

Wow, what a coup, that has almost as much impact as a fart in the wind.

By the way, I note that the Move to Amend crowd are completely ignoring the fact that Citizen's United vs. FCC also protects UNION's rights.

Curious that we never hear about that when the freaking campers are whining.


Even more funny since unions are the most powerful political entities in CA(Teachers and Prisonworkers at the top), and they're generally leaning the same direction as the protestors
 
2011-12-09 12:48:12 PM
bhcompy: Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas

In the Great Depression people moved to take work. You go where the jobs are. Sometimes necessity forces you out of your comfort zone. If my job is building widgets and all the widget manufacturers move to BFE, I'm going to move to BFE when I need a job building widgets.

/my company is hiring and has been for the past 6 months, the majority of candidates lie on their resume and/or show little aptitude to learning our proprietary application



Move? MOVE!? It would take me approximately 2 months to scrounge up for a car (Some beater below one grand), and still not able to pay insurance for said car. I'm living on a shoe string budget, and i'm an inch from disaster week to week.
 
2011-12-09 12:48:26 PM
halfof33: KiplingKat872: They already got the L.A. City Council to vote in support of a Constitutional amendment (on the website if you want to read it) that would nullify Citizen's United vs. FCC.

Wow, what a coup, that has almost as much impact as a fart in the wind.


Yes, because oddly, none of the major news outlets are covering that fact that one of the largest cities in the U.S. is making a stand against the legalized corruption in our government.

Hrmm.

By the way, I note that the Move to Amend crowd are completely ignoring the fact that Citizen's United vs. FCC also protects UNION's rights.

Curious that we never hear about that when the freaking campers are whining.


I would think that that fact that want to strike the ruling down indicates their feelings on the matter.
 
2011-12-09 12:51:04 PM
Kraftwerk Orange: (How did that get by the mods at that site?)

I suspect they got the joke, but they post everything that comes their way including the 56% people.
 
2011-12-09 12:52:00 PM
bhcompy: Even more funny since unions are the most powerful political entities in CA(Teachers and Prisonworkers at the top), and they're generally leaning the same direction as the protestors

Do you really believe Workers Unions are more powerful than Corporations?

Really?
 
2011-12-09 12:53:37 PM
AmazinTim: Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas

I know that jobs are tough to come by, I graduated at the height of the recession and had to get real bootstrappy to get a job right out of school. I also had to take a job for real shiat pay and long hours in order to get into the industry I wanted to be in. I also know a few of these OWSers and they have a warped perception on what kind of jobs are available to them. Several quit jobs as waiters because it was below them and they were trying to find jobs as art gallery curators while they made their music. Seriously. It's like that scene in Christmas Vacation when Eddie's wife explains that he's been unemployed for 7 years because he's holding out for a management position. This attitude towards employment is purely anecdotal and doesn't apply to all of them, just the few I know. It becomes easy to read the hundreds of other anecdotes around here, and the stories that these OWSers post about themselves and their individual aversion to holding down a job and lump them all together.


Alright, I can accept this. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
 
2011-12-09 12:54:29 PM
KiplingKat872: Yes, because oddly, none of the major news outlets are covering that fact that one of the largest cities in the U.S. is making a stand against the legalized corruption in our government.

Because no one farking cares that a pack of liberal douches pass a non-binding symbolic resolution, particularly as it is farking clear from the resolution that the morans don't understand the actual holding of the case.

Pointless blather to satisfy the idiot masses.
 
2011-12-09 12:56:00 PM
bhcompy: Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas

In the Great Depression people moved to take work. You go where the jobs are. Sometimes necessity forces you out of your comfort zone. If my job is building widgets and all the widget manufacturers move to BFE, I'm going to move to BFE when I need a job building widgets.

/my company is hiring and has been for the past 6 months, the majority of candidates lie on their resume and/or show little aptitude to learning our proprietary application


It astounds me that people expect knowledge and skills to be installed int their heads by someone else. Mention that a person needs to be responsible for themselves on this site will get you accused of 'bootstrapperty'. Like that's a bad thing. When it comes down to it, it's the only thing. Self discipline is the basis of everything. A persons level of discipline is the most important variable in determining how well someone does in this life. Their only life.

But the government is partially to blame, the educational system (including university) doesn't prepare these kids to be adequately productive or practical .

Parents are to blame too for not teaching their kids the kind of life lessons that cannot be taught in school. How to be organized, how to be honest, how teach yourself a skill, are some examples.
 
2011-12-09 12:56:24 PM
KiplingKat872: bhcompy: Even more funny since unions are the most powerful political entities in CA(Teachers and Prisonworkers at the top), and they're generally leaning the same direction as the protestors

Do you really believe Workers Unions are more powerful than Corporations?

Really?


This this some sort of trick question? Yes, the Teacher's Union is more powerful than a corporation with 15 employees. No, they're not stronger than AT&T.
 
2011-12-09 12:57:12 PM
halfof33: Because no one farking cares that a pack of liberal douches pass a non-binding symbolic resolution, particularly as it is farking clear from the resolution that the morans don't understand the actual holding of the case.

Pointless blather to satisfy the idiot masses.


Really? So explain to me then the actual holding of the case and why this proposed amendment (on the website, you would have to go read it, of course) does not keep business (and unions) from pouring unlimited amounts of cash into campaigns and lobbyists and therefore shutting out the voice of the American voter?
 
2011-12-09 01:01:09 PM
ProfessorOhki:
This this some sort of trick question? Yes, the Teacher's Union is more powerful than a corporation with 15 employees. No, they're not stronger than AT&T.


well, wait a minute, you can be damned sure that the Teacher's union is much stronger than AT&T on the local level, hell, on the State level.

The head of the Chicago teachers Union can pick up the phone and be connected to any reporter in the City in five minutes.
 
2011-12-09 01:04:12 PM
Modguy: bhcompy: Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas

In the Great Depression people moved to take work. You go where the jobs are. Sometimes necessity forces you out of your comfort zone. If my job is building widgets and all the widget manufacturers move to BFE, I'm going to move to BFE when I need a job building widgets.

/my company is hiring and has been for the past 6 months, the majority of candidates lie on their resume and/or show little aptitude to learning our proprietary application


Move? MOVE!? It would take me approximately 2 months to scrounge up for a car (Some beater below one grand), and still not able to pay insurance for said car. I'm living on a shoe string budget, and i'm an inch from disaster week to week.


Yet you have the internet. So troll or ... well, I won't insult you.
 
2011-12-09 01:06:05 PM
halfof33: The head of the Chicago teachers Union can pick up the phone and be connected to any reporter in the City in five minutes.

So can the had of Goldman Sachs. What's your point?

That because Unions are evil , we should allow corporations to rule our government?

Deflection doesn't address the issue.
 
2011-12-09 01:06:53 PM
halfof33: ProfessorOhki:
This this some sort of trick question? Yes, the Teacher's Union is more powerful than a corporation with 15 employees. No, they're not stronger than AT&T.

well, wait a minute, you can be damned sure that the Teacher's union is much stronger than AT&T on the local level, hell, on the State level.

The head of the Chicago teachers Union can pick up the phone and be connected to any reporter in the City in five minutes.


By picking up that phone, they're paying for AT&T's lobbying efforts. Though, you make a good point, we'd have to scope what level of government we're talking about and really define "power" before we could do any sort of objective comparison.

Suffice to say, there are unions more powerful than some corporations and corporations more powerful than some unions. Anyone who thinks it's all one way or the other is an idiot.
 
2011-12-09 01:07:47 PM
bhcompy: Modguy: AmazinTim: God are these derelicts still trying to make everybody in the city as miserable as they are? Go occupy a job and stop interfering with other people's work. I give 0 farks for Law and Order, and even less for these occupy asshats.

The bolded is what I have a problem with. Many parts of the country simply are not hiring. fark, in my town I had to hunt for a good 3 months, applying to EVERYTHING (Retail, restaurants, distribution centers, EVERYTHING) before I got my job as a sub-minimum wage contractor. But no, I'm sure if I just had some one tell me "Go occupy a job", one would have magically appeared.

/I get people coming in all the time asking if we're hiring
//we aren't
///business is so slow, we're probably going to have to shut down within a few months, depending on how busy we get over christmas

In the Great Depression people moved to take work. You go where the jobs are. Sometimes necessity forces you out of your comfort zone. If my job is building widgets and all the widget manufacturers move to BFE, I'm going to move to BFE when I need a job building widgets.

/my company is hiring and has been for the past 6 months, the majority of candidates lie on their resume and/or show little aptitude to learning our proprietary application


The great tragedy of our push to make sure every.single.american. owned his/her own home is that it makes bailing from a bad situation difficult.

For most people the vast majority of their personal wealth is tied up in their home. They can try to sell it to move, but if the economy is tanked who is going to buy it? And if they can find a buyer it will be for much much less than they put in to it. So it's either wipe out everything you've done up till now and start over in a new town hoping the job situation will be better there or stick around and hope the mill opens back up (it won't).

This was a horrible policy that has been pushed for decades by both democrats and republicans for their own benefit that is not a good investment for a great most people. We need to encourage more people, particularly those with the least income and job security, to rent so they maintain more flexibility and are able to do exactly what you describe when things get bad.
 
2011-12-09 01:08:58 PM
bhcompy:

Yet you have the internet. So troll or ... well, I won't insult you.


How do you know they are not on a library and work computer?

I don't have internet at home, or cable, or anything but electricity and a single cell phone, yet here I am.
 
2011-12-09 01:11:22 PM
KiplingKat872: Really? So explain to me then the actual holding of the case and why this proposed amendment (on the website, you would have to go read it, of course) does not keep business (and unions) from pouring unlimited amounts of cash into campaigns and lobbyists and therefore shutting out the voice of the American voter?

Uh, you are kind of overlooking the part where I said that nobody including me gives a hot farking damn about about the symbolic resolution.

But, to answer your question, the idiotic amendment only mentions corporations, why? Why does it not mention union? Further, the idiotic amendment would also shut out non-profit advocacy groups like Sierra Club.

Man, scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, ready to restrict free speech.

I cannot believe how short sighted you people are. Congrats on the resolution though. Make sure you mention it at the next meeting of the Brown Shirts.
 
2011-12-09 01:12:47 PM
ProfessorOhki: Anyone who thinks it's all one way or the other is an idiot.

Anyone who does not realize that the money big business interests have poured into government dwarfs the amount of money poured into it by unions is an idiot.

But again, this is deflection that comes across as "Unions are evil, so we must allow the continued corruption of our government."

What if, just what if, people actually wanted to get ALL lobbying and special interests out of politics?

I know that's hard for people to wrap their heads around, but just what if...?
 
2011-12-09 01:14:52 PM
KiplingKat872: I think the next big step is being taken by the Move to Amend group:

MoveToAmend.org

They already got the L.A. City Council to vote in support of a Constitutional amendment (on the website if you want to read it) that would nullify Citizen's United vs. FCC.


So the LA City Council is against the 1st Amendment, huh?

Color me surprised.
 
2011-12-09 01:15:11 PM
halfof33: Man, scratch a liberal and you'll find a fascist, ready to restrict free speech.

And we have Godwins Law!

I love how the modern definition of "fascism" to some people is demanding that human beings have equal say in their government as a business.
 
2011-12-09 01:15:45 PM
KiplingKat872: bhcompy: Even more funny since unions are the most powerful political entities in CA(Teachers and Prisonworkers at the top), and they're generally leaning the same direction as the protestors

Do you really believe Workers Unions are more powerful than Corporations?

Really?


They *are* corporations, dumbass.
 
2011-12-09 01:16:29 PM
KiplingKat872: ProfessorOhki: Anyone who thinks it's all one way or the other is an idiot.

Anyone who does not realize that the money big business interests have poured into government dwarfs the amount of money poured into it by unions is an idiot.

But again, this is deflection that comes across as "Unions are evil, so we must allow the continued corruption of our government."

What if, just what if, people actually wanted to get ALL lobbying and special interests out of politics?

I know that's hard for people to wrap their heads around, but just what if...?


This is only because the unions killed themselves off. Look at Detroit. That is their old utopia and stronghold.
 
2011-12-09 01:17:10 PM
This text is now purple: So the LA City Council is against the 1st Amendment, huh?

When money drowns out the American voter's voice in their own government, it is the opposite of free speech.

But then this comes from the right that thinks that demanding equal rights for gays is an infringement on their religious freedom....

Orwell would be so pleased.
 
2011-12-09 01:17:11 PM
KiplingKat872: ProfessorOhki: Anyone who thinks it's all one way or the other is an idiot.

Anyone who does not realize that the money big business interests have poured into government dwarfs the amount of money poured into it by unions is an idiot.

But again, this is deflection that comes across as "Unions are evil, so we must allow the continued corruption of our government."

What if, just what if, people actually wanted to get ALL lobbying and special interests out of politics?

I know that's hard for people to wrap their heads around, but just what if...?


Do you pay attention to California politics? Do you live in California?
 
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