I think AA is making a big mistake here.

Asking for an apology is alright.

Putting him on the no-fly list is overkill, as he has already spoken that he refuses to fly on the airline again.

Stopping airing 30 Rock is just ridiculous and insulting to Alec Baldwin's acting career. What good would this do? It's just spiteful.

Being "extremely rude" to the crew is all they will say. What does that entail exactly? What words were spoken?

Finally, I think they are handling this wrong simply because those who are famous are supposed to get special treatment. It makes it look like, if they're going to kick Alec Baldwin off a plane, they wouldn't have any qualms with kicking regular shmoes off. This will blow up in their face in time.

Vodka Zombie: Isn't it illegal to exploit the no-fly list by making unfounded accusations of terrorism?

Criticizing the no-fly list is actually one of the ways you get put on the no-fly list, Citizen.

The other thing I don't like is, despite his temper tantrum, Alec Baldwin is not a safety threat to the airplane. They kicked him off for being rude, but putting him on the no fly list seems excessive.

serpent_sky: He comes across as an unlikable guy. They should have just let him rant and rave and look crazy, knowing he will not use their services anymore instead of making people sympathize with him because of the overreaction.

I agree. It seems like AA doesn't have a public relations branch of any sort.

Sybarite: They should replace 30 Rock with Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole.

Or just a 15 minute loop of a flight attendant explaining the rules of the plane to everyone.

shinysign: Sybarite: They should replace 30 Rock with Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole.

Or just a 15 minute loop of a flight attendant explaining the rules of the plane to everyone.

I don't know, some of those safety videos can be nightmare inducing...

and there we go, the flight attendent union officially has one the battle for "most douchiness in an airline dispute."

Well, this thread is easily up there with the highest percentage of posts that are contradicted by the actual linked article.

"The FAA can go after passengers for civil penalties exceeding $20,000, multiple sources said. But an FAA spokesman said Thursday that American had not filed a formal complaint."

Most expensive words with friends game ever.

And stop telling me to turn off my farking Kindle it uses the same amount of power whether I'm reading it or not.

shinysign: I think AA is making a big mistake here.



Where did American Airlines say any of these things?

*reads FARK headline*

*reads article*

Nope. The company is being relatively quiet about it. The union for the flight attendants, OTOH, seems to be upping the gain on their derpitude.

I travel very regularly for business. You don't even have to be a celebrity to be a self-important douche. I know the regulations are farking stupid but seriously, just close it down for 3 minutes and move on. And take a farking shower - people on planes just flat out smell bad these days. Also if you have the misfortune to end up in a middle seat you own both armrests. I flew from Denver yesterday and it was a shiatshow, smelly fatties, seating group 2 gate crashers, over full carryon stuffing and someone puked in the aisle.

/flying used to be fun

James!: The no-fly list for terrorists? Oh good, being rude is now terrorism.

Looks like you haven't been paying attention.

James!: The no-fly list for terrorists? Oh good, being rude is now terrorism.

RTFA. Not THAT no-fly list. Just American Airlines' personal, company no-fly list.

There's nothing you can do against "sky law"
/loves me some 30 rock

tlchwi02: and there we go, the flight attendent union officially has one the battle for "most douchiness in an airline dispute."

Yep. Annoying? Yeah, Alec can be. Disruptive? If he was really banging on the walls of the bathroom, sure. No fly list? Think you just went a bit too far, union.

Would rather have Alec on my plane as opposed to...oops, I'm going to get accused of profiling in a minute...

James!: kingoomieiii: James!: Oh good, being rude is now terrorism.

Have to find SOME excuse to round up and execute protestors.

First they came for the Alec Baldwins, and I did not speak out because I was not a Baldwin Brother...

Are you sure you're not a Baldwin? Because there's like 500 of them. You might be one and not even know it.

If they take 30 Rock off AA flights, I'm afraid they might bring back the CBS partnership and I simply can't take any more Everybody Loves Raymond.

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: I travel very regularly for business. You don't even have to be a celebrity to be a self-important douche. I know the regulations are farking stupid but seriously, just close it down for 3 minutes and move on. And take a farking shower - people on planes just flat out smell bad these days. Also if you have the misfortune to end up in a middle seat you own both armrests. I flew from Denver yesterday and it was a shiatshow, smelly fatties, seating group 2 gate crashers, over full carryon stuffing and someone puked in the aisle.

/flying used to be fun

No it didn't.

wumperton: There's nothing you can do against "sky law"
/loves me some 30 rock

Oh, geez, imagine being Tina right now. She's got to be tearing her hair out with Alec and Tracy going rogue on her like this. That's both her primary co-stars.

Hoboclown: shinysign: Sybarite: They should replace 30 Rock with Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole.

Or just a 15 minute loop of a flight attendant explaining the rules of the plane to everyone.

I don't know, some of those safety videos can be nightmare inducing...

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in before



/ personally think shes creepy hot

They are like the police or others in government with authority: There is only one real sin, and that is challenging their authority. You commit that one sin and they will do everything to destroy you.

Diogenes: Why punish the show other passengers?

/ftfy
/no idea how that show is still being made

Maybe he wants to fly himself. Well, good luck pressing "take off," then "autopilot," then "land!"

Flight attendants aren't really doing much for their image in the US by acting like little babies.

I was wondering when the umbrella organization for cum dumpster waitresses would weigh in. Get over yourselves, you officious, self important little twits - go back to pushing ass out of Courtyards and other things that match your skillset.

James!: kingoomieiii: James!: Oh good, being rude is now terrorism.

Have to find SOME excuse to round up and execute protestors.

First they came for the Alec Baldwins, and I did not speak out because I was not a Baldwin Brother...

Comedy gold

"He broke federal aviation regulations that are in place for a reason," Glover added."

You mean the ones with no evidence?

Captain_Ballbeard: I was wondering when the umbrella organization for cum dumpster waitresses would weigh in. Get over yourselves, you officious, self important little twits - go back to pushing ass out of Courtyards and other things that match your skillset.

Is it just me, or have they really been playing up the "we're here for your safety," aspect lately?

This asshat should have done us all a favor and left the country in 2004 like he promised.

MrLint: "He broke federal aviation regulations that are in place for a reason," Glover added."

You mean the ones with no evidence?

Actually, there he might be referring to the trip to the lav. I can't think of a time when electronic devices are prohibited that the seatbelt sign isn't also on. If the plane was buttoned up and they were about to push back, nobody should be in the aisles and there are damned good reasons for that rule.

Bo Giggity: This asshat should have done us all a favor and left the country in 2004 like he promised.

Wait. Is he an asshole or a job creator suffering under exuberant taxes? Both?

sinanju: MrLint: "He broke federal aviation regulations that are in place for a reason," Glover added."

You mean the ones with no evidence?

Actually, there he might be referring to the trip to the lav. I can't think of a time when electronic devices are prohibited that the seatbelt sign isn't also on. If the plane was buttoned up and they were about to push back, nobody should be in the aisles and there are damned good reasons for that rule.

My mother once panicked on a plane as we were getting ready to take off from LAX on a Continental DC-10. It was making some strange, rhythmic mechanical noise that was probably hydraulics under our seats. She was already a nervous flyer and had never been able to think of a DC-10 as a safe plane after the Chicago crash. She jumped up to ask the flight attendant if something was wrong. Mind you, we weren't at the gate, we were literally next in line for take off.

Being the mid-1980's, she was just yelled at. I think today she'd have been arrested.

Sybarite: They should replace 30 Rock with Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole.

Well played, :)

Eirik: My mother once panicked on a plane as we were getting ready to take off from LAX on a Continental DC-10. It was making some strange, rhythmic mechanical noise that was probably hydraulics under our seats. She was already a nervous flyer and had never been able to think of a DC-10 as a safe plane after the Chicago crash. She jumped up to ask the flight attendant if something was wrong. Mind you, we weren't at the gate, we were literally next in line for take off.

Being the mid-1980's, she was just yelled at. I think today she'd have been arrested.

CSB time

Lately I've noticed (say in the last year or so) that during takeoff in the Airbus A318-A320s for about 10 minutes there's some odd, very loud humming noise below the seats in the first 10 rows or so. I don't recall that being the case prior to about a year ago. Just weird if you ask me.

/CSB time

serpent_sky: They should have just let him rant and rave and look crazy, knowing he will not use their services anymore instead of making people sympathize with him because of the overreaction.

Why? because he said he wouldn't use them?
Like he said he was moving to Canada?

God forbid you actually put the damn phone away for 10 minutes.

cantsleep: serpent_sky: They should have just let him rant and rave and look crazy, knowing he will not use their services anymore instead of making people sympathize with him because of the overreaction.

Why? because he said he wouldn't use them?
Like he said he was moving to Canada?

God forbid you actually put the damn phone away for 10 minutes.

God forbid you let some person grope you for a minute. God forbid you allow someone to zap you with radiation for 5 seconds. Nevermind that neither of those things reliably prevent the things they're meant to prevent.

But why complain, citizen? It's for the greater good. Complaining about it just temporarily inconveniences others, and you wouldn't want to do that now, would you? Just step out of the line for a moment and we can discuss it.