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2011-12-08 12:14:12 PM
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2011-12-08 12:14:36 PM
welcometotheinternet.jpg
 
2011-12-08 12:15:32 PM
With Rebecca Black being lower than cancer, right?
 
2011-12-08 12:15:43 PM
If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.
 
2011-12-08 12:16:41 PM
People don't like hate-mongering idiots. I'm shocked.
 
2011-12-08 12:17:07 PM
If I had to choose between cancer and a Rick Perry presidency my only question would be, "What kind of cancer?"
 
2011-12-08 12:17:10 PM
The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.
 
2011-12-08 12:17:20 PM
Well at least I dont have alzheimers.
 
2011-12-08 12:17:41 PM
The sad thing is, as bad as he's doing in the presidential campaign he'll probably still win reelection as governor.

Thanks bunches, rural Jesus freaks.
 
2011-12-08 12:20:00 PM
I'd choose three things before I chose Rick Perry for president.

I'd choose treatable cancer, Mitt Romney, and... um... Oops!
 
2011-12-08 12:20:09 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


Good thing so few Americans utilize that modern contraption, this is probably just the work of a few techno-hippies.
 
2011-12-08 12:21:32 PM
Cancer/Cornea paper cut 2012
 
2011-12-08 12:21:33 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


One day, you'll come to grip with the fact you are NOT the silent majority.
 
2011-12-08 12:21:39 PM
How about Rebecca Black with cancer?
 
2011-12-08 12:21:56 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internetDuuuuuh herp derp-a-derp duuuuuuh buhhhhh. Color me shocked.


FTFY, Mongoloid
 
2011-12-08 12:22:20 PM

heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.


Tough call :/
 
2011-12-08 12:22:46 PM
Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.
 
2011-12-08 12:24:42 PM

Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.



Hey, that's how we roll. It's like the "War on Christmas". It doesn't exist, and talking about it like it does gets everybody upset, but by god we're going to talk about it...
 
2011-12-08 12:25:05 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


Are you aware there are many Christians who are not bigoted assholes? They are not synonymous.

Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?
 
2011-12-08 12:25:10 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


Watch this (new window), then get back to us.

No seriously, it's pretty good.
 
2011-12-08 12:25:18 PM
Rick Parry is a born again and talks about God in every other sentence. I am guessing he is supported by the well over forty crowd.

Ron Paul is probably has the most Republican support on by 'internet users', whatever that means exactly. Even though it will never ever be accepted by those pulling the string in the gop.

/And who the fark wants to hire W 2.0. I would seriously rather see Jeb in that this smuck.
 
2011-12-08 12:25:38 PM

Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.


Because the Internet often resembles a giant collective elementary school bully.
 
2011-12-08 12:26:18 PM

Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.


Same reason the Internet hates Rick Astley, I guess. By the time it becomes a meme, all the "cool kids" are already on to something else.

/actually kinda like Never Gonna Give You Up
//hate the shiat out of Friday, but still like to subject friends to it now and then
 
2011-12-08 12:26:23 PM

heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.


Bad choice in my opinion. Malignant cancer will only ruin your life if chemo can't stop it. Rick Perry has the capacity to ruin everyone's life by launching nukes at Iran and Pakistan.
 
2011-12-08 12:27:07 PM

Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.


It was bad. the song writing was horrible BUT it was hilarious and fun to mock. Yes I agree it was bad, but I do agree with your point that people all flipped out complaining like it was forced on us.
 
Xai
2011-12-08 12:27:10 PM

Corvus: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Are you aware there are many Christians who are not bigoted assholes? They are not synonymous.

Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

^
This
 
2011-12-08 12:28:47 PM

HeartBurnKid: Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.

Same reason the Internet hates Rick Astley, I guess. By the time it becomes a meme, all the "cool kids" are already on to something else.

/actually kinda like Never Gonna Give You Up
//hate the shiat out of Friday, but still like to subject friends to it now and then


F*ck that, I LOVE that song. I'm with you there, brother.
/NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
/NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN
 
2011-12-08 12:29:53 PM

Xai: Corvus: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Are you aware there are many Christians who are not bigoted assholes? They are not synonymous.

Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?
^
This



Also, do we have to hold onto the opinions of people who thought that an almighty being needed animal sacrifices in order to stay pleased with us? How about we just, you know, evolve?
 
2011-12-08 12:30:30 PM

Serious Black: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Bad choice in my opinion. Malignant cancer will only ruin your life if chemo can't stop it. Rick Perry has the capacity to ruin everyone's life by launching nukes at Iran and Pakistan.


Can you just imagine his environmental policies? "Forrest slashed and burned? Just pray and Jesus will make the trees grow back!" "Drinking water lethally contaminated with arsenic and mercury? Accept God into your life and drink up!"
 
2011-12-08 12:30:34 PM

heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.


Sure, but you'd have to think about it.
 
2011-12-08 12:32:43 PM
So Tim Tebow > Rick Perry?

/did I just divide by zero?
 
2011-12-08 12:32:56 PM

God Is My Co-Pirate: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Sure, but you'd have to think about it.


It depends on whether or not the cancer is curable. If it is, I'd rather have the cancer. If not, I'd rather deal with Rick Perry.
 
2011-12-08 12:33:06 PM

heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.


If it weren't for Chris Hansen and his damn liberal media imposing their values on you and keeping you apart...
 
2011-12-08 12:33:22 PM

meat0918: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Watch this (new window), then get back to us.

No seriously, it's pretty good.


Penn fails at basic understanding. Carter had four years in a moderately media saturated age. Clinton had twice as long at the dawn of the mass internet/media age. Clinton also beat the religious gong a lot to deflect from Penisgate. Bush spent all his time in office trying to go on vacation and avoiding responsibilities like going to church.

/I still believe that Obama is a secret-athiest
//his church is a whackjob political church not fundie
 
2011-12-08 12:33:51 PM
Well reddit posted it then fark posted it.

We're pretty brutal against bigotry and moronicness.
 
2011-12-08 12:34:27 PM

StrangeQ: So Tim Tebow > Rick Perry?

/did I just divide by zero?


At least Tim is winning
 
2011-12-08 12:35:26 PM

monoski: StrangeQ: So Tim Tebow > Rick Perry?

/did I just divide by zero?

At least Tim is winning


Yeah, but it's not the last half of the fourth quarter yet, is it?
 
2011-12-08 12:39:46 PM
I always did like Canada.
 
2011-12-08 12:42:51 PM
Response Video- Perry is Weak (new window)
 
2011-12-08 12:43:52 PM
Wuzza-wuzzup, loony libs? Hey, can you silly socialists say "ACORN"? Da Cool Coach thought ya could, ya jabronis! The funky fact of the matter is, this is another one of Obummer's Big Union tactics, getting a bunch of moochers to get onto the World Wide Web and post hateful comments and thumbs-down for the Perrynator's rockin' new ad! Whatever, ya clowns! Peep this: The Perrynator knows that Christianity is in peril with you secular socialists runnin' the show, and he's not afraid to admit it! Badoodle-boo-yeah! That takes some grapefruits, if ya feels me!

You clowns aren't gonna know what hits ya when ConservoMentum '12 unleashes a SPREAD of TRUTH. Urban out.
 
2011-12-08 12:43:59 PM

Sarah Palin's Conscience: I always did like Canada.


I'm starting to think about organizing a trade. We'll give you the middle of our country in exchange for the west coast and the North East.
 
2011-12-08 12:46:32 PM

padraig: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

One day, you'll come to grip with the fact you are NOT the silent majority.


... or Christian.
 
2011-12-08 12:46:42 PM

Coach Urban Meyer: Trolly goodness


Whenever I see this guy, I immediately think this...

www.whatevs.org
 
2011-12-08 12:47:07 PM
The sick part is that this ad is pretty tame compared to some of his other anti-gay rhetoric. Regardless, it's also a transparent ploy to get back in the race by appealing to social conservatives.
 
2011-12-08 12:48:04 PM

FerneJohn: The sick part is that this ad is pretty tame compared to some of his other anti-gay rhetoric. Regardless, it's also a transparent ploy to get back in the race by appealing to social conservatives.


Maybe he could do some quote mining from the Pokemon movie... pick up Herm's old supporters.
 
2011-12-08 12:48:11 PM

heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.


At least you can punch Rick Perry, right?
 
2011-12-08 12:49:22 PM

Flappyhead: Serious Black: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Bad choice in my opinion. Malignant cancer will only ruin your life if chemo can't stop it. Rick Perry has the capacity to ruin everyone's life by launching nukes at Iran and Pakistan.

Can you just imagine his environmental policies? "Forrest slashed and burned? Just pray and Jesus will make the trees grow back!" "Drinking water lethally contaminated with arsenic and mercury? Accept God into your life and drink up!"


We already saw part of it.

'Fires are destroying the state. First we'll pray to Jesus then I will gut the fire fighting budget while complaining that the government isnt helping and say how government helping you is dangerous.'
 
2011-12-08 12:49:43 PM

Coach Urban Meyer: Wuzza-wuzzup, loony libs? Hey, can you silly socialists say "ACORN"? Da Cool Coach thought ya could, ya jabronis! The funky fact of the matter is, this is another one of Obummer's Big Union tactics, getting a bunch of moochers to get onto the World Wide Web and post hateful comments and thumbs-down for the Perrynator's rockin' new ad! Whatever, ya clowns! Peep this: The Perrynator knows that Christianity is in peril with you secular socialists runnin' the show, and he's not afraid to admit it! Badoodle-boo-yeah! That takes some grapefruits, if ya feels me!

You clowns aren't gonna know what hits ya when ConservoMentum '12 unleashes a SPREAD of TRUTH. Urban out.


files.sharenator.com
 
2011-12-08 12:49:44 PM

jake3988: Well reddit posted it then fark posted it.

We're pretty brutal against bigotry and moronicness.


tumblr went apeshiat with it too
 
2011-12-08 12:50:25 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


Could you translate this into something resembling English please? Goddamn, the trolls are getting worse by the week here.
 
2011-12-08 12:50:47 PM

FerneJohn: The sick part is that this ad is pretty tame compared to some of his other anti-gay rhetoric. Regardless, it's also a transparent ploy to get back in the race by appealing to social conservatives bigots.


Yeah I guess those are synonyms.
 
2011-12-08 12:51:00 PM
Comparing Rick Perry to cancer is retarded.

One is a mutated, malignant mass of cells that will eat you alive causing excruciating pain and leaving you wishing for the sweet release of death...
 
2011-12-08 12:51:43 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: Comparing Rick Perry to cancer is retarded.

One is a mutated, malignant mass of cells that will eat you alive causing excruciating pain and leaving you wishing for the sweet release of death...


The other is cancer.
 
2011-12-08 12:52:32 PM

whosits_112: HeartBurnKid: Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.

Same reason the Internet hates Rick Astley, I guess. By the time it becomes a meme, all the "cool kids" are already on to something else.

/actually kinda like Never Gonna Give You Up
//hate the shiat out of Friday, but still like to subject friends to it now and then

F*ck that, I LOVE that song. I'm with you there, brother.
/NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP
/NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN


Same here. Let us not desert the Rick!

mainstreet62: God Is My Co-Pirate: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Sure, but you'd have to think about it.

It depends on whether or not the cancer is curable. If it is, I'd rather have the cancer. If not, I'd rather deal with Rick Perry.


If it means saving the country, I'd take one for the team. Besides, knowing that your death will happen shortly and probably before your trial is finished, can be pretty freeing for a man...
 
2011-12-08 12:52:57 PM
Ah, I love when candidates make up problems and then blame their opponent for creating the imaginary problems.
 
2011-12-08 12:55:01 PM

trotsky: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Could you translate this into something resembling English please? Goddamn, the trolls are getting worse by the week here.


You don't speak derp?

I'll translate: People on the internet are more educated and open minded than most social conservatives who are bigots. Obama believe in separation of church and state, we are against that because we want to make the US into a Christian theocracy.

I think that pretty much covers it.
 
2011-12-08 12:57:43 PM
I'd shove a thermometer up my peehole and smash my dick with a hammer before I'd vote for Rick Perry.
 
2011-12-08 12:58:57 PM
I had to look up who Rebecca Black was...

I would put Rick Perry lower than both Black and cancer, to be honest with you subby. I don't think the talentless Ms Black has attempted to use bigotry against gays to garner support from other bigots... and cancer isn't purposefully trying to destroy people's lives.
 
2011-12-08 12:59:26 PM

Flappyhead: Serious Black: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Bad choice in my opinion. Malignant cancer will only ruin your life if chemo can't stop it. Rick Perry has the capacity to ruin everyone's life by launching nukes at Iran and Pakistan.

Can you just imagine his environmental policies? "Forrest slashed and burned? Just pray and Jesus will make the trees grow back!" "Drinking water lethally contaminated with arsenic and mercury? Accept God into your life and drink up!"


Run Forrest, run!

/and don't fark Jenny
 
2011-12-08 12:59:36 PM

trotsky: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Could you translate this into something resembling English please? Goddamn, the trolls are getting worse by the week here.


Translation, assuming you're looking for meaning:

"Color me shocked. The internet has a liberal bias. I'm going to blame Obama and atheists."

Translation, assuming you're trying to figure out the thought process:

"[Buzzword] Obama [Buzzword][Buzzword] Internet [Buzzword][Meme]."
 
2011-12-08 01:00:07 PM

Mercutio74: Sarah Palin's Conscience: I always did like Canada.

I'm starting to think about organizing a trade. We'll give you the middle of our country in exchange for the west coast and the North East.


How about you just absorb those parts and leave the rest to form a Proper Christian Nation, like our Founding Fathers intended. Of course, offer an out for those citizens who do not wish to live in theocracy.

Everybody wins.
 
2011-12-08 01:01:46 PM

trotsky: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Could you translate this into something resembling English please? Goddamn, the trolls are getting worse by the week here.


And it's going to get even worse as we get closer and closer to convention and general election.

The derp-spasm if Obama wins a second term (which he more than likely will) is going to be enormous.
 
2011-12-08 01:02:54 PM
Gah, if he wins the nomiation I'll be forced to vote for obama. I don't want to vote for either R or D goddammitsomuch
 
2011-12-08 01:03:07 PM

Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?


He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.
 
2011-12-08 01:05:17 PM

elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.


i39.tinypic.com
 
2011-12-08 01:06:03 PM
Rick Perry is the candidate for people who thought Bush was too much of an intellectual to be president.
 
2011-12-08 01:06:56 PM
I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian, but you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there's something wrong in this country when gays can serve openly in the military but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas or pray in school. - Rick Perry

What's not to like?

I mean, besides the hate and ignorance.
 
2011-12-08 01:10:09 PM
assets.flavorwire.com
 
2011-12-08 01:11:19 PM
Santorum's popularity on the internet? Probably pretty close to a real Santorum.
 
2011-12-08 01:12:44 PM
Did anyone notice that rickperry.com re-directed to ronpaul2012.com yesterday? It seems that rickperry.com domain is back up for sale now though. Rick's social media people must be really bad. Not only did they not turn off voting on this youtube video, but they only bought rickperry.org, not rickperry.com to go with it.
 
2011-12-08 01:12:56 PM

Coach Urban Meyer: Wuzza-wuzzup, loony libs? Hey, can you silly socialists say "ACORN"? Da Cool Coach thought ya could, ya jabronis! The funky fact of the matter is, this is another one of Obummer's Big Union tactics, getting a bunch of moochers to get onto the World Wide Web and post hateful comments and thumbs-down for the Perrynator's rockin' new ad! Whatever, ya clowns! Peep this: The Perrynator knows that Christianity is in peril with you secular socialists runnin' the show, and he's not afraid to admit it! Badoodle-boo-yeah! That takes some grapefruits, if ya feels me!

You clowns aren't gonna know what hits ya when ConservoMentum '12 unleashes a SPREAD of TRUTH. Urban out.


This is the single greatest thing I've ever seen on this site.
 
2011-12-08 01:13:57 PM

Poopspasm: I'd shove a thermometer up my peehole and smash my dick with a hammer before I'd vote for Rick Perry.


I'm a girl, and that image almost made me go fetal. Dayum.

/put me down for "what kind of cancer?" too
 
2011-12-08 01:14:24 PM

elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.


Exodus 21:7
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

So Jesus was ok with sex slaves, right?
 
2011-12-08 01:15:32 PM

Swoop1809: Did anyone notice that rickperry.com re-directed to ronpaul2012.com yesterday? It seems that rickperry.com domain is back up for sale now though. Rick's social media people must be really bad. Not only did they not turn off voting on this youtube video, but they only bought rickperry.org, not rickperry.com to go with it.


Hmmm, I'm thinking we turn it into a gay porn site with people who look like jesus and religious figureheads. Blowjobs for Jesus!
 
2011-12-08 01:17:02 PM

meat0918: trotsky: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

Could you translate this into something resembling English please? Goddamn, the trolls are getting worse by the week here.

And it's going to get even worse as we get closer and closer to convention and general election.

The derp-spasm if Obama wins a second term (which he more than likely will) is going to be enormous.


The derpers are miserable when they win, too. After 2010, they had a victory and yet they were more pissed off. The internet dentists and black animals of Fark are just angry bitter miserable people no matter what the outcome.
 
2011-12-08 01:20:09 PM

DarnoKonrad: Cancer/Cornea paper cut 2012


have you ever had a cornea paper cut? I have ( thrown book, 3rd grade, odd story). It's the most painful thing I've experienced. Everything would be fine, then I'd try to open my eye because I'd have a momentary laps of judgement and then the world would go away and I'd just scream and cry for 5-10 minutes.

I'm not saying I'm selfish enough to inflict Perry on the nation, but it's a close call.
 
2011-12-08 01:27:02 PM

404 page not found: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2011-12-08 01:30:50 PM
I already submitted this, but Rick Perry is an Ass (new window)
 
2011-12-08 01:34:34 PM
oops, wrong link...


Link (new window)
 
2011-12-08 01:35:44 PM

4,066 likes, 190,050 dislikes

CNET: Rick Perry fails YouTube 101

"It could be argued that the Perry people want to be transparent--after all, to have turned off voting once the tide had turned against the candidate might not have looked good. In that case, then, removing the ad from YouTube altogether might have been a better choice. Yet, the ad is still there, and voting is still enabled.

One reason might be that the video is currently holding center court on the Rick Perry for president Web site. It would be pretty obvious then if the ad was removed from YouTube. "

I would think a candidate team would be smart to host their own media server.
 
2011-12-08 01:42:54 PM

pwhp_67: Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.


Hey, that's how we roll. It's like the "War on Christmas". It doesn't exist, and talking about it like it does gets everybody upset, but by god we're going to talk about it...


I'm always confused about why Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reily and their ilk are fighting to get stores to use Jesus to sell products. "This year's big product Snifftel Bits, with a tesimonial by Jesus, "when the Romans rode their horses to the mountain of Olives, they used Sniffel Bits (tm), and I would too!"

It just makes there religion seem that much more pathetic.
 
2011-12-08 01:49:18 PM

Poopspasm: I'd shove a thermometer up my peehole and smash my dick with a hammer before I'd vote for Rick Perry.


Hey . . . don't knock it 'til you tried it.
 
2011-12-08 02:04:21 PM

buck1138: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

Exodus 21:7
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.

Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to fulfill.

So Jesus was ok with sex slaves, right?



Matthew 15:11
What goes into a man's mouth does not make him 'unclean,' but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him 'unclean.'

Mark 7:15
Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.'

So Jesus was OK with oral sex as long as you swallow, and any other kind of penetration you can manage as long as you don't produce santorum.

/Seriously: Jesus is saying that what you eat, how you dress, how you wash, and the rest of what you do with your body don't defile you or make you holy. Only the words and thoughts and deeds that come out of your body can defile you or raise you up.
//It's not often that the Gospel is transparently clear about something. This is one of those times.
///Also, WTF is wrong with social conservatives?
 
2011-12-08 02:05:25 PM
4,154 likes, 195,846 dislikes

Will Perry become more disliked than LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE?

Perry's "Strong" is rapidly becoming one of the most disliked videos on YouTube. I am using The Most Disliked Videos on YouTube Ever for most of my pointers though the data there is out of date.

"Strong"s dislike has already surpassed #5 Justin Bieber - Somebody To Love Remix ft. Usher with:

380,726 likes, 146,044 dislikes - though JB gets a lot of likes

The next milestone will be #4 Justin Bieber - Never Say Never ft. Jaden Smith with:

497,768 likes, 209,808 dislikes

Not listed on that disliked page is #3 LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! with:

146,442 likes, 229,782 dislikes

"Strong" probably won't reach the level of dislike of the top two: Justin Bieber - Baby ft. Ludacris (2,066,341) and "Rebecca Black - Friday (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (1,444,274)"

(The Black vid has been pulled. The pre-pull figures come from The Most Disliked Videos on YouTube Ever.)
 
2011-12-08 02:08:48 PM
I'm still not sure if he's a Dominionist himself, but Mr. Perry has some awfully strong ties to many who are. Dominionists believe - among other things - that homosexuals are "normal" people who have been possessed by demons. Let that sink in. They think I'm gay because I'm possessed by a demon. For real. Mr. Perry probably truly thinks he was showing restraint in that ad, and can't understand what all the uproar is about.
 
2011-12-08 02:11:33 PM
Thread seems short on Perry defenders
 
2011-12-08 02:13:05 PM

czetie: Mark 7:15
Nothing outside a man can make him 'unclean' by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him 'unclean.'


Read 6 verses after that - Mark 7:21 (or all of 7:20 through 7:23 for context).

/not agreeing with the condemnation
//just pointing out what the book says
///more accurately, pretty much anyone can find justification for their own views in there
 
2011-12-08 02:16:13 PM

RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.


tylermoody.webs.com
 
2011-12-08 02:18:48 PM

The Why Not Guy: I'm still not sure if he's a Dominionist himself, but Mr. Perry has some awfully strong ties to many who are. Dominionists believe - among other things - that homosexuals are "normal" people who have been possessed by demons. Let that sink in. They think I'm gay because I'm possessed by a demon. For real. Mr. Perry probably truly thinks he was showing restraint in that ad, and can't understand what all the uproar is about.


Well...are you possessed by demons? Did a demon right your post for you, or we're you lucid for a moment?
 
2011-12-08 02:26:06 PM
4,236 likes, 200,241 dislikes

Woot! passed 200K
 
2011-12-08 02:28:47 PM

elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.


As I recall, the only misdeed Jesus specifically mentions is adultery ("go, and sin no more"). So it's a good job none of the Republican candidates have that stain on their character as they go about claiming the blessing of God.
 
2011-12-08 02:39:26 PM

wraith95: If I had to choose between cancer and a Rick Perry presidency my only question would be, "What kind of cancer?"


Republicans kill more people than cancer.
 
2011-12-08 02:45:26 PM

Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?


Jews are known to be rather hair-splitting legalistic in their interpretation of laws. While Leviticus says not to lay with a man as one does with a woman, it says nothing about blow-jobs.

I figure Jesus and the Disciples were all gay and the last supper really was a daisy-chain.

The Christian rite of communion, modeled on the last supper, is this weird cannibalistic ritual of eating and drinking Jesus which is supposed to have religious symbolism but doesn't have analogues in other religious acts or religions.

What if the eating and drinking was literally true. Anybody at the last supper would know what "eat" was supposed to mean and they wouldn't bite off Jesus's dick.
 
2011-12-08 02:46:31 PM
Do I hear 300K, Farkers?
 
2011-12-08 02:53:06 PM

HairBolus: Jews are known to be rather hair-splitting legalistic in their interpretation of laws. While Leviticus says not to lay with a man as one does with a woman, it says nothing about blow-jobs.


I always took that to mean "don't lay on your back and put your arm around a man while he tucks his head into your armpit." Is there some other way to lay with a woman that I don't know about?
 
2011-12-08 02:56:32 PM
just flagged it for promoting terrorism....did my part
 
2011-12-08 02:57:10 PM

czetie: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

As I recall, the only misdeed Jesus specifically mentions is adultery ("go, and sin no more"). So it's a good job none of the Republican candidates have that stain on their character as they go about claiming the blessing of God.


I'm no biblical scholar but I know that some translations of Mark 7:21 but not others use the phrase "sexual immorality." What that means is beyond me.

For example, Mark 7:20-23 read as follows in the New International Version: 20 He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come- sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person."

By contrast, the King James: 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

So, rather ambiguous. "Sexual immorality" in one but not the other. And, of course, this was written decades after Jesus died, by someone who wasn't there when he is said to have uttered these words, but that's a different issue.

Any Greek experts out there who might know what the original said?
 
2011-12-08 03:02:15 PM
Well let's see, I've had cancer & heard Rebecca Black & taking a moment to compare them with what's being spewed by Rick Perry...

Cancer/Black 2012!

/although all 3 might be taken care of with large doses of radiation.
 
2011-12-08 03:06:19 PM
Indeed (new window)
 
2011-12-08 03:19:05 PM

HairBolus: 4,154 likes, 195,846 dislikes

Will Perry become more disliked than LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE?

Perry's "Strong" is rapidly becoming one of the most disliked videos on YouTube. I am using The Most Disliked Videos on YouTube Ever for most of my pointers though the data there is out of date.

"Strong"s dislike has already surpassed #5 Justin Bieber - Somebody To Love Remix ft. Usher with:

380,726 likes, 146,044 dislikes - though JB gets a lot of likes

The next milestone will be #4 Justin Bieber - Never Say Never ft. Jaden Smith with:

497,768 likes, 209,808 dislikes

Not listed on that disliked page is #3 LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! with:

146,442 likes, 229,782 dislikes

"Strong" probably won't reach the level of dislike of the top two: Justin Bieber - Baby ft. Ludacris (2,066,341) and "Rebecca Black - Friday (OFFICIAL VIDEO) (1,444,274)"

(The Black vid has been pulled. The pre-pull figures come from The Most Disliked Videos on YouTube Ever.)


It already has the most net dislikes (dislikes - likes) ever, doesn't it?
 
2011-12-08 03:23:53 PM
i56.tinypic.com
 
2011-12-08 03:31:15 PM

Coco LaFemme: Do I hear 300K, Farkers?


4,554 likes, 215,709 dislikes

And one more flag for promoting terrorism
 
2011-12-08 03:32:45 PM

Super Chronic: czetie: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

As I recall, the only misdeed Jesus specifically mentions is adultery ("go, and sin no more"). So it's a good job none of the Republican candidates have that stain on their character as they go about claiming the blessing of God.

I'm no biblical scholar but I know that some translations of Mark 7:21 but not others use the phrase "sexual immorality." What that means is beyond me.

For example, Mark 7:20-23 read as follows in the New International Version: 20 He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come- sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person."

By contrast, the King James: 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

So, rather ambiguous. "Sexual immorality" in one but not the other. And, of course, this was written decades after Jesus died, by someone who wasn't there when he is said to have uttered these words, but that's a different issue.

Any Greek experts out there who might know what the original said?


The web site bible.cc is an excellent resource for comparison. In this case http://bible.cc/mark/7-21.htm will show you all the major translations for that passage. It's worth noting that the King James is probably the least reliable translation in wide circulation.

To compound the problems, even if we could go back to the earliest Greek texts, and even if we could be confident that those texts reflected the actual words of Jesus, you're already one translation away from the language Jesus probably spoke, Aramaic. And even if by some miracle you got back to the original words of Jesus, you might find that he said the Aramaic version of "sexual immorality" and still not know whether that was a euphemism for anal sex, out-of-wedlock sex, wild monkey sex, or jerking off to porn. The fact that Matthew and Mark report the alleged words quite differently is telling.
 
2011-12-08 03:34:26 PM

alizeran: [img822.imageshack.us image 429x640]


Hahahaha
 
2011-12-08 03:40:06 PM

Notabunny: Coco LaFemme: Do I hear 300K, Farkers?

4,554 likes, 215,709 dislikes

And one more flag for promoting terrorism


Stop flagging it. We don't want this video offline. We want it to stand forever, with the colossal red bar and tiny green sliver under it, as a monument to Rick Parry's stupidity and bigotry.
 
2011-12-08 03:44:58 PM

The Why Not Guy: They think I'm gay because I'm possessed by a demon.


That's actually a more believable explanation that the "It's a lifestyle choice" morans.
 
2011-12-08 03:49:04 PM
Rick needs to spend less time on Youtube and more time writing up his endorsement speech for Mitt Romney.
 
2011-12-08 04:05:53 PM
4,760 likes, 225,307 dislikes

HeartBurnKid: It already has the most net dislikes (dislikes - likes) ever, doesn't it?


Nah, it will be rather hard to top #1 Justin Bieber - Baby ft. Ludacris with:

1,009,045 likes, 2,067,274 dislikes
 
2011-12-08 04:09:02 PM

jake3988: Well reddit posted it then fark posted it.

We're pretty brutal against bigotry and moronicness.



Actually RICK PERRY posted it first. I guess that means he's the most against bigotry and "moronicness"

/such an ugly non-word you coined there.
 
2011-12-08 04:15:41 PM

madgordy: pwhp_67: Imperialism: Why is Rebecca Black hated by the internet? People posted her terrible music video everywhere (she didn't spam it) and then complained that her terrible music video was posted everywhere.


Hey, that's how we roll. It's like the "War on Christmas". It doesn't exist, and talking about it like it does gets everybody upset, but by god we're going to talk about it...

I'm always confused about why Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reily and their ilk are fighting to get stores to use Jesus to sell products. "This year's big product Snifftel Bits, with a tesimonial by Jesus, "when the Romans rode their horses to the mountain of Olives, they used Sniffel Bits (tm), and I would too!"

It just makes there religion seem that much more pathetic.


I doubt it is their religion, just the religion of the gullible people who give them money by the bucket load, so they have to pretend to follow it while behaving diametrically opposite its teachings (not much different from the people they are fleecing).
 
2011-12-08 04:25:34 PM
4,892 likes, 231,644 dislikes
 
2011-12-08 04:33:55 PM

4,941 likes, 233,827 dislikes

Perry beats out LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE! for the #3 spot

HairBolus: Nah, it will be rather hard to top #1 Justin Bieber - Baby ft. Ludacris with:

1,009,045 likes, 2,067,274 dislikes


Woops, Wikipedia says:

When the video was removed from YouTube on June 16, 2011, due to copyright claims from Black, it had already had amassed more than 167 million views, and had over 3.1 million "dislikes" (87% of total ratings) from YouTube users.

so I guess Black is #1.
 
2011-12-08 04:44:01 PM

czetie: Super Chronic: czetie: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

As I recall, the only misdeed Jesus specifically mentions is adultery ("go, and sin no more"). So it's a good job none of the Republican candidates have that stain on their character as they go about claiming the blessing of God.

I'm no biblical scholar but I know that some translations of Mark 7:21 but not others use the phrase "sexual immorality." What that means is beyond me.

For example, Mark 7:20-23 read as follows in the New International Version: 20 He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come- sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person."

By contrast, the King James: 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

So, rather ambiguous. "Sexual immorality" in one but not the other. And, of course, this was written decades after Jesus died, by someone who wasn't there when he is said to have uttered these words, but that's a different issue.

Any Greek experts out there who might know what the original said?

The web site bible.cc is an excellent resource for comparison. In this case http://bible.cc/mark/7-21.htm will show you all the major translations for that passage. It's worth noting that the King James is probably the least reliable translation in wide circulation.

To compound the problems, even if we could go back to the earliest Greek texts, and even if we could be confident that those texts reflected the actual words of Jesus, you're already one translation away from the language Jesus probably spoke, Aramaic. And even if by some miracle you got back to the original words of Jesus, you might find that he said the Aramaic version of "sexual immorality" and still not know whether that was a euphemism for anal sex, out-of-wedlock sex, wild monkey sex, or jerking off to porn. The fact that Matthew and Mark report the alleged words quite differently is telling.


Well then you've disavowed the version that does not condemn "sexual immorality." But I don't know which is considered most definitive. I pasted the above text from biblegateway.com, which has a lot of versions. This is a lousy citation, but I do know that the resident head in my college dorm, a professor of Near Eastern Languages and Civilization, told me that the New English version was the best -- although that might have only been for the OT. (This, while scoffing at my having been assigned passages from the King James in my freshman humanities class.)
 
2011-12-08 04:47:26 PM

HeartBurnKid: Notabunny: Coco LaFemme: Do I hear 300K, Farkers?

4,554 likes, 215,709 dislikes

And one more flag for promoting terrorism

Stop flagging it. We don't want this video offline. We want it to stand forever, with the colossal red bar and tiny green sliver under it, as a monument to Rick Parry's stupidity and bigotry.


Agreed.

Some of my friends are flagging it as hateful. I get where they're coming from (it IS pretty offensive).... I think it should be held up as an example of the kind of attitude we still have to overcome in our modern society.

/This *is* still the 21st century, right?
 
2011-12-08 05:06:38 PM
5,159 likes, 243,610 dislikes

getting ready for another shot.
 
2011-12-08 05:06:48 PM
 
2011-12-08 05:15:08 PM

Super Chronic: Well then you've disavowed the version that does not condemn "sexual immorality." But I don't know which is considered most definitive. I pasted the above text from biblegateway.com, which has a lot of versions.


Oh, I've disavowed all of them. Even the best is removed at least one translation, several decades, and numerous manual copies from a person who may or may not have even existed, let alone said the words attributed to him. The (convoluted) point I'm trying to make is that even if you can get past the varying English renderings, you still won't know what was intended. The most any of these texts, ancient or modern, tell us is what their authors considered immoral at the time they were bending the text to their own purposes.

I also enjoy making fun of the absurdity of being a literalist about a book of which, when all's said done, we don't what it literally says (or said at any given point in the thousands of years over which it evolved).

I'm not sure what your prof's criteria for "best" is -- the New English is certainly very readable. The NIV has a reputation for good scholarship and going back to the best available sources. I join him in scoffing at the King James.

/Been a long time since I had a good scoff
 
2011-12-08 05:23:27 PM

czetie: Super Chronic: Well then you've disavowed the version that does not condemn "sexual immorality." But I don't know which is considered most definitive. I pasted the above text from biblegateway.com, which has a lot of versions.

Oh, I've disavowed all of them. Even the best is removed at least one translation, several decades, and numerous manual copies from a person who may or may not have even existed, let alone said the words attributed to him. The (convoluted) point I'm trying to make is that even if you can get past the varying English renderings, you still won't know what was intended. The most any of these texts, ancient or modern, tell us is what their authors considered immoral at the time they were bending the text to their own purposes.

I also enjoy making fun of the absurdity of being a literalist about a book of which, when all's said done, we don't what it literally says (or said at any given point in the thousands of years over which it evolved).

I'm not sure what your prof's criteria for "best" is -- the New English is certainly very readable. The NIV has a reputation for good scholarship and going back to the best available sources. I join him in scoffing at the King James.

/Been a long time since I had a good scoff


"Closest to the original" was what he said, although I think he might have been talking about OT translations from Hebrew. I did point out to the resident head that we were reading for slightly different purposes than he would be reading for in his field. As mentioned, this was a common core humanities class, and if we're looking at impact on Western civilization and thought, then the King James is undoubtedly an important part of the canon, accuracy be damned. But that's neither here nor there.
 
2011-12-08 05:27:43 PM

abb3w: You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

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[carryabigsticker.com image 449x533]


Just curious if you have any idea why the numbers for people agreeing are higher for those born in the 1910's than any other group until the 1950's.
 
2011-12-08 05:33:45 PM

NeverDrunk23: Flappyhead: Serious Black: heinekenftw: If given the choice between Rick Perry and Rebecca Black, I'd honestly take Rebecca Black.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and Cancer, I'd probably take cancer, so long as its the benign type that is easily taken care of.

If given the choice between Rick Perry and malignant cancer, well I guess I'll take Rick Perry.

Bad choice in my opinion. Malignant cancer will only ruin your life if chemo can't stop it. Rick Perry has the capacity to ruin everyone's life by launching nukes at Iran and Pakistan.

Can you just imagine his environmental policies? "Forrest slashed and burned? Just pray and Jesus will make the trees grow back!" "Drinking water lethally contaminated with arsenic and mercury? Accept God into your life and drink up!"

We already saw part of it.

'Fires are destroying the state. First we'll pray to Jesus then I will gut the fire fighting budget while complaining that the government isnt helping and say how government helping you is dangerous.'



This.
 
2011-12-08 05:41:48 PM

Serious Black: abb3w: You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

[a.imageshack.us image 600x400]
[carryabigsticker.com image 449x533]

Just curious if you have any idea why the numbers for people agreeing are higher for those born in the 1910's than any other group until the 1950's.


My guess is they were the flapper generation
 
2011-12-08 05:42:56 PM
5,398 likes, 254,163 dislikes


take a shot!
 
2011-12-08 05:52:18 PM
Rick Perry is an Ass (new window)


Best Video EvARR
 
2011-12-08 07:15:29 PM
ha ha ha, just keep hitting refresh and watch the dislikes climb.

To anyone who is in the know; can one user cast multiple dislikes, or is it limited to one vote per user account?
 
2011-12-08 07:40:07 PM

JohnRanger: RandomExcess: The anti-Christian bias of Obama's liberal secularism is common on the internet. Color me shocked.

[tylermoody.webs.com image 617x62]


Win.
 
2011-12-08 07:51:43 PM
i.imgur.com

Rick Perry can suck the chrome off a trailer hitch, or so I've heard...
 
2011-12-08 07:58:36 PM

czetie: Super Chronic: czetie: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

As I recall, the only misdeed Jesus specifically mentions is adultery ("go, and sin no more"). So it's a good job none of the Republican candidates have that stain on their character as they go about claiming the blessing of God.

I'm no biblical scholar but I know that some translations of Mark 7:21 but not others use the phrase "sexual immorality." What that means is beyond me.

For example, Mark 7:20-23 read as follows in the New International Version: 20 He went on: "What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person's heart, that evil thoughts come- sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person."

By contrast, the King James: 20And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. 21For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: 23All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

So, rather ambiguous. "Sexual immorality" in one but not the other. And, of course, this was written decades after Jesus died, by someone who wasn't there when he is said to have uttered these words, but that's a different issue.

Any Greek experts out there who might know what the original said?

The web site bible.cc is an excellent resource for comparison. In this case http://bible.cc/mark/7-21.htm will show you all the major translations for that passage. It's worth noting that the King James is probably the least reliable translation in wide circulation.

To compound the problems, even if we could go back to the earliest Greek texts, and even if we could be confident that those texts reflected the actual words of Jesus, you're already one translation away from the language Jesus probably spoke, Aramaic. And even if by some miracle you got back to the original words of Jesus, you might find that he said the Aramaic version of "sexual immorality" and still not know whether that was a euphemism for anal sex, out-of-wedlock sex, wild monkey sex, or jerking off to porn. The fact that Matthew and Mark report the alleged words quite differently is telling.


They still speak Aramaic in Syria. Syriac Christians, that is. Kind of like how non-Israeli Jews use Hebrew as their religious language, so do the Syriac Christians use Aramaic as their sacred language.


Also, you can comment on his profile. Feel free to spam.
I bet someone else can sign up Rick Perry's webmaster for porn.
 
2011-12-08 08:01:58 PM

Super Chronic: Any Greek experts out there who might know what the original said?


Yes.

ἔσωθεν γὰρ ἐκ τῆς καρδίας τῶν ἀνθρώπων οἱ διαλογισμοὶ οἱ κακοὶ ἐκπορεύονται μοιχεῖαι, πορνεῖαι φόνοι

Breaking it out:

ἔσωθεν γὰρ
After all it is from within

ἐκ τῆς καρδίας τῶν ἀνθρώπων
out of the heart of man

οἱ διαλογισμοὶ
literally the balancing of accounts

οἱ κακοὶ
the evil (goes with the balancing of accounts)
I'm taking this as "financial malfeasance"
Almost all of the translations out there take this as "evil thoughts" and I'm not sure why. Maybe some kind of variance in the Koine that I don't know. And I'm still at work, don't have a dictionary here...

ἐκπορεύονται
flow forth

μοιχεῖαι
adultery

πορνεῖαι
prostitution

φόνοι
murder

So all strung together, you get:
"After all it is from within, out of the heart of man that flow the fraud, adultery, prostitution, and murder."

Nothing about any other sexual practices.
 
2011-12-08 08:19:28 PM
So to break down the grammar (for the picky monkeys)
ἔσωθεν - adverb meaning "From within"
γὰρ - postpositive introductory rhetorical particle meaning "For" or "after all" - corresponds with Latin "enim" almost exactly. Greek phrases beginning with adverb+γὰρ are almost universally rendered "for it is adverb" or "it is adverb, after all, ..."
ἐκ τῆς καρδίας - prepositional phrase, ἐκ (out of, from) τῆς καρδίας (genitive plural because ἐκ takes the genitive)
τῶν ἀνθρώπων - genitive plural of ὁ ἄνθρωπος (man, mankind) - so "of man" in the sense of "mankind." An alternative would be "of men" meaning individuals.
οἱ διαλογισμοὶ - nominative plural of διαλογισμός (a balancing of accounts, a consideration, a judicial inquiry)
οἱ κακοὶ - nominative plural of κακός (evil, bad) - noun functioning as an adjective modifying διαλογισμοὶ
ἐκπορεύονται - 3rd person plural indicative middle/passive form of ἐκπορεύω, verb with multiple subjects, to flow forth
μοιχεῖαι, - nominative plural of μοιχεία (adultery), co-subject of ἐκπορεύονται
πορνεῖαι - nominative plural of πορνεία (prostitution), co-subject of ἐκπορεύονται
φόνοι - nominative plural of φόνος (murder), co-subject of ἐκπορεύονται
 
2011-12-08 08:25:29 PM

czetie: you're already one translation away from the language Jesus probably spoke, Aramaic.


Possibly. Possibly not. Odds are good that a person making public address at that time might have used Greek for it. Aramaic was almost certainly his native tongue, true, but who knows what language he spoke when making addresses.

But it doesn't matter - it's pretty certain that none of what's written down in the gospels is any closer to a first hand account than "Some scribe transcribed what someone told them 50-100 years after the fact." Luke and Acts are probably authored and written by the same person, and the letters are almost all dated to the time they say they are.

But the Gospels are not just books that Christ's followers wrote down as it was happening. So the translation isn't the conundrum here, it's that you're at the receiving end of a 50 year long game of telephone.
 
2011-12-08 08:27:24 PM

czetie: The fact that Matthew and Mark report the alleged words quite differently


As in Mark doesn't have that sexual immorality thing in there at all...
 
2011-12-08 08:44:19 PM
"I'm not ashamed to admit that I'm a Christian,"
> Great. Good for him.

"but you don't need to be in the pew every Sunday to know there's something wrong in this country"
> Leading off with feelings of inferiority. Nice.

"when gays can serve openly in the military"
> As well they should.

"but our kids can't openly celebrate Christmas"
> Yes they can. That claim is blatantly false.

"or pray in school."
> Again, that is a lie. Kids can pray in public schools as long as it does not disrupt the learning process and is not led or sanctioned by school officials. If students' parents are not satisfied with that, they have the option of enrolling their kids in a private religious school.

"As President, I'll end Obama's war on religion."
> As an American, he should be familiar with the first amendment of the Constitution, which explicitly forbids the government from making any law that "respects the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." There is no "war on religion" as he claims. That's just sensational rhetoric.

"And I'll fight against liberal attacks on our religious heritage."
> That's just more hyperbole laced with divisive political hate speech.

"Faith made America strong."
> Among other things.

"It can make her strong again."
> Yes and no.

"I'm Rick Perry and I approve this message."
> That's the only truthful thing stated in the entire ad.
 
2011-12-08 09:04:50 PM
6,818 likes, 307,518 dislikes
 
2011-12-08 09:05:30 PM

Super Chronic: if we're looking at impact on Western civilization and thought, then the King James is undoubtedly an important part of the canon, accuracy be damned.


Fair enough. For a long time, it was the only version known to most English churchgoers and pastors. Even today there are people who cling to the KJV without knowing (or caring) that it's a shoddy translation from unreliable sources.
 
2011-12-08 09:10:42 PM

Notabunny: 6,818 likes, 307,518 dislikes


driink!
 
2011-12-08 09:33:05 PM
This is what a REAL Christian message sounds like. I am not sure how the fundies got to be so hateful. Not a RR by the way. Link (new window)
 
2011-12-08 09:40:34 PM

unlikely: czetie: you're already one translation away from the language Jesus probably spoke, Aramaic.

Possibly. Possibly not. Odds are good that a person making public address at that time might have used Greek for it. Aramaic was almost certainly his native tongue, true, but who knows what language he spoke when making addresses.

But it doesn't matter - it's pretty certain that none of what's written down in the gospels is any closer to a first hand account than "Some scribe transcribed what someone told them 50-100 years after the fact." Luke and Acts are probably authored and written by the same person, and the letters are almost all dated to the time they say they are.

But the Gospels are not just books that Christ's followers wrote down as it was happening. So the translation isn't the conundrum here, it's that you're at the receiving end of a 50 year long game of telephone.


I think you'll find that we're in violent agreement here. As I said, even the original Greek text is at least at one remove and several decades from any alleged historical Jesus. And in fact, it's even worse than that since the earliest complete texts we have date from the 4th century, so even if the original written gospels represented a final attempt to capture the testimony of eyewitnesses before they were gone, there's still a gap of centuries between those texts and the oldest copies known to us.

Furthermore, that period was a tumultuous and highly politicized one in which many different interpretations of what Christianity actually meant and how it should be practiced were in competition, often relying on their own gospels for support, and around the middle of that period is when the canon was standardized to the four gospels we know today. So it would be astonishing if the texts have not been modified to support whatever the winning theology turned out to be. (It is almost indisputable that this happened to the epistles: while they do probably date from the period they claim to, there are significant chunks -- often theologically very important chunks -- that are clearly later interpolations.)

It's possible that Jesus spoke Greek -- many of his contemporaries were trilingual in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek -- but speaking to an audience of his compatriots, it's likely he would have spoken Aramaic. There's even a smattering of the Aramaic versions of place names in the gospels and a handful of words in Aramaic attributed to Jesus. The speeches attributed to him certainly don't have the form of Greek rhetoric. But I agree, it's largely moot since there's no reliable connection back from the written gospels to any purported historical Jesus.

Conversely, it's very likely indeed that Paul, Peter, and the other apostles spoke Greek when they took their evangelism on the road as it was the lingua franca of the region.

Early church tradition holds that Mark's gospel was written down by the same John Mark who is mentioned in that gospel, and the most popular tradition is that it represents Peter's dictated testimony while he was supposedly in Rome. An alternative tradition is that Peter went on the road with Luke, who was not an eyewitness, and gave lectures testifying to the accuracy of Luke's written account, while Mark scribbled it all down and later turned it into a gospel.

Of course, all of this is probably complete rubbish, and the reality is that the gospels were written by unknown authors who attached the names of prominent early Christians to their work to lend credibility.
 
2011-12-08 09:54:20 PM

czetie: Of course, all of this is probably complete rubbish, and the reality is that the gospels were written by unknown authors who attached the names of prominent early Christians to their work to lend credibility.


Have you read "The Five Gospels"? (new window with amazon goodness) It's a fairly good scholarly analysis of this subject.

While I disagree in a couple of places with their findings (I'm a nitpicker of the worst kind), it is very well done.
 
2011-12-08 09:59:12 PM

Great_Milenko: Coach Urban Meyer: Wuzza-wuzzup, loony libs? Hey, can you silly socialists say "ACORN"? Da Cool Coach thought ya could, ya jabronis! The funky fact of the matter is, this is another one of Obummer's Big Union tactics, getting a bunch of moochers to get onto the World Wide Web and post hateful comments and thumbs-down for the Perrynator's rockin' new ad! Whatever, ya clowns! Peep this: The Perrynator knows that Christianity is in peril with you secular socialists runnin' the show, and he's not afraid to admit it! Badoodle-boo-yeah! That takes some grapefruits, if ya feels me!

You clowns aren't gonna know what hits ya when ConservoMentum '12 unleashes a SPREAD of TRUTH. Urban out.

This is the single greatest thing I've ever seen on this site.


Christ, I LOL'd. Mike LOwELl, you better up your game.
 
2011-12-09 01:52:26 AM
8,767 likes, 367,897 dislikes - how many shots does this correspond to?
 
2011-12-09 02:17:44 AM
8862 likes
372378 dislikes
 
2011-12-09 04:21:35 AM
Wow. Rick Perry really has you pussy liberals shaking in your panties doesn't he? This proves that he has something of substance and will trounce the poser in the most powerful office in the world. NObama 2012. It'll be a damn wash.
 
2011-12-09 06:50:08 AM

WaffleStomper: Wow. Rick Perry really has you pussy liberals shaking in your panties doesn't he? This proves that he has something of substance and will trounce the poser in the most powerful office in the world. NObama 2012. It'll be a damn wash.


1/10
 
2011-12-09 06:58:50 AM
There has to be some Bayesian metric by which this the lowest rated youtube video... nearly 400k votes on less than 2.5 million views, and less than 3% approval of those actually voting.

-1 = dislike
0 = no vote
1 = like

and then some Bayesian weighting base on total views... I cannot see how this could not be the lowest rated youtube video ever.
 
2011-12-09 07:34:02 AM
9,484 likes, 400,009 dislikes

400k+
Everybody chug a bottle of some effete secularist French wine - I would recommend an impertinent Graves.
 
2011-12-09 07:45:12 AM

unlikely: Have you read "The Five Gospels"? (new window with amazon goodness) It's a fairly good scholarly analysis of this subject.


No, but apparently I'm going to, right after I buy myself Amazon Prime for Christmas.

Also good (and written for the less scholarly) is Misquoting Jesus, which explains not only how the gospels were modified over time, but also how scholars try to trace back through the modifications.
 
2011-12-09 07:52:11 AM

czetie: unlikely: Have you read "The Five Gospels"? (new window with amazon goodness) It's a fairly good scholarly analysis of this subject.

No, but apparently I'm going to, right after I buy myself Amazon Prime for Christmas.

Also good (and written for the less scholarly) is Misquoting Jesus, which explains not only how the gospels were modified over time, but also how scholars try to trace back through the modifications.


...and by an odd coincidence, SMBC (new window) is perfect this morning
 
2011-12-09 09:02:02 AM
Has anyone yet pointed out the irony of a serious Presidential candidate freely admitting he's Christian and not fearing it will hurt his election chances, while at the same time complaining about people not being able to celebrate Christmas or pray openly in school because of some "war on religion?"
 
2011-12-09 10:12:01 AM

SurfaceTension: Has anyone yet pointed out the irony of a serious Presidential candidate freely admitting he's Christian and not fearing it will hurt his election chances, while at the same time complaining about people not being able to celebrate Christmas or pray openly in school because of some "war on religion?"


Perry's not being ironic, he's being a rugged individualist fighting against The Man. He's a millionaire and the most powerful man in Texas, and he's not afraid to FIGHT THE POWER!
 
2011-12-09 10:22:30 AM
10,002 likes, 418,048 dislikes

That's about 18 thousand in the last 3 hours. Nice pace.
 
2011-12-09 11:43:59 AM

elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.


Jesus also knew how to manage his alts.
 
2011-12-09 11:53:28 AM

Dr. Whoof: elchip: Corvus: Can you point me out the bible verse where Jesus said homosexuality is wrong?

He did condemn sexual immorality, and one would assume he was referring to the misdeeds listed in the OT when he said that.

Jesus also knew how to manage his alts.


Finally, someone who can explain the Trinity to me!
 
2011-12-09 12:44:49 PM

Serious Black: abb3w: You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

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Just curious if you have any idea why the numbers for people agreeing are higher for those born in the 1910's than any other group until the 1950's.


Quirk of a small sample size, possibly? I'm guessing there were fewer people around to do surveys from that group, for obvious reasons.
 
2011-12-09 01:28:37 PM

abb3w: You guys don't understand. You've already lost. The current generation doesn't care.

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I wonder what happened in the twenties to cause that dip.
 
2011-12-09 04:37:42 PM

nmrsnr: DarnoKonrad: Cancer/Cornea paper cut 2012

have you ever had a cornea paper cut? I have ( thrown book, 3rd grade, odd story). It's the most painful thing I've experienced. Everything would be fine, then I'd try to open my eye because I'd have a momentary laps of judgement and then the world would go away and I'd just scream and cry for 5-10 minutes.

I'm not saying I'm selfish enough to inflict Perry on the nation, but it's a close call.


Actually, yes, I've had a corneal abrasion. The most painful farking thing of my life and I was on morphine and hyrdrocodone and had just had face surgery. The eye was by and far the worst.
 
2011-12-09 08:10:12 PM
13,202 likes, 500,000 dislikes
 
2011-12-10 12:01:04 AM

Serious Black: Just curious if you have any idea why the numbers for people agreeing are higher for those born in the 1910's than any other group until the 1950's.

heinekenftw: I wonder what happened in the twenties to cause that dip.


Wild guesses; no serious clue.
"All I know is what I read in the papers General Social Survey."
There's also a faint trace in the 1988 MARHOMO data, which I'd write off as pure artifact otherwise.

kimwim: My guess is they were the flapper generation


Or thereabouts. Some might also have been influence echoes of the last Freethinker boom.
It's also imaginable the open-minded are more willing to listen when the doctor tells them that "If you keep on doing ____, you're going to DIE!" Sure, some survive regardless, but if more tend to survive among those that listen....

Still, blaming the flappers works for a first approximation.
I really need to visit an old folks home and do some interviews before that oral (...er?...) history dies out.

It's the holidays; feel free to break out the sherry to get grandma talkative, if you can stand it.

Biological Ali: Quirk of a small sample size, possibly? I'm guessing there were fewer people around to do surveys from that group, for obvious reasons.


That's a major factor, yes; enough that increasing "liberality" on the question over time within cohorts is non-trivial.
 
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