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(Some Guy) Interesting Pujols to become Angel in LA, Devil in St. Louis   (mlbtraderumors.com) divider line 171
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2011-12-08 10:12:20 AM
Destroying your image is worth an extra $30 million.
 
2011-12-08 10:18:21 AM
I would destroy my image for thirty dollars.
 
2011-12-08 10:43:17 AM
I would destroy your image for far less than that. Slice of cheese and a pack of crackers would do it.
 
2011-12-08 10:47:14 AM
I do live in Wisconsin, where cheese is legal currency.
I usually go for about 3 slices of pepper jack or an ounce of gorgonzola an hour.
 
2011-12-08 11:07:42 AM
Link

And they just signed CJ Wilson.
 
2011-12-08 11:31:27 AM
As a Cardinals fan I'm kinda meh about it. The Cardinals just didn't have the money to sign him to that kind of contract and stay competitive.

I'm really more upset that Jeff Luhnow went to the Astros, he's been responsible for the great drafts lately and complete turnaround of the farm system.
 
2011-12-08 11:48:12 AM
Not LA, in OC =/


\god I miss them being simply the California Angels.

\the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim sucks.
 
2011-12-08 11:55:49 AM
Uchiha_Cycliste: Not LA, in OC =/

Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg
 
2011-12-08 11:56:48 AM
WTF Indeed: Destroying your image is worth an extra $30 million.

How is it "destroying his image"? He didn't betray anyone or do anything horrible. He signed somewhere else after bringing 2 titles to the Cardinals.
 
2011-12-08 11:59:54 AM
Bad day for the Rangers
 
2011-12-08 12:03:12 PM
jackiepaper: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not LA, in OC =/

Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg


I grew up in that miserable, pretentious, self-centered, hell-hole that is South Orange County. I've earned the right to call it that.

\got out as soon as I could and have no intention of returning for more than a couple of days.
 
2011-12-08 12:08:32 PM
Angels also signed CJ Wilson, but Fark won't post that info for another 4 hours as they are wont to do.
 
2011-12-08 12:14:55 PM
DamnYankees: How is it "destroying his image"? He didn't betray anyone or do anything horrible. He signed somewhere else after bringing 2 titles to the Cardinals.

Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004. He's 32, at the end of his prime, and the self life for MLB players is back to being 35-38 like it was before steroids. He can't DH in the NL, so he had to know that a 8-10 year deal in the NL would be crazy. He took it for selfless reasons. Which is absolutely fine, it's a business, but he still sold out his image for an extra $30 million.
 
2011-12-08 12:24:53 PM
I hope the Angels enjoy paying $30M a year to a washed up DH in 6 years. That's $120M they're going to regret.
 
2011-12-08 12:24:54 PM
Going full retard for a quarter of a billion dollars? Priceless..........
 
2011-12-08 12:26:00 PM
GAT_00: I hope the Angels enjoy paying $30M a year to a washed up DH in 6 years. That's $120M they're going to regret.

They will. Money isn't really an issue to the Angels.
 
2011-12-08 12:26:34 PM
WTF Indeed: Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004.

Without knowing the guy, or following the STL Cardinals in particular, I'm guessing his loyalty was more to LaRussa than the organization and city as whole.
 
2011-12-08 12:26:45 PM
jackiepaper: Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg


Awesome.

As for the Cardinals, now they can sign Prince Fielder for 75% of what Pujols just signed for and be just fine.
 
2011-12-08 12:28:03 PM
Meh, Cards fan here. So long and thanks for the memories Albert, best of luck with the Angels.
 
2011-12-08 12:28:09 PM
He screwed up. The Cub's gaurenteed him no fall work.
 
2011-12-08 12:29:23 PM
Yanks_RSJ: jackiepaper: Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg

Awesome.

As for the Cardinals, now they can sign Prince Fielder for 75% of what Pujols just signed for and be just fine.


I'd rather they use the money on middle infielders and starting pitching.
 
2011-12-08 12:30:52 PM
oh hey, a thread.. guess we can leave the deer poacher thread alone now

for those saying "image, legacy" and whatnot, consider these things:
-he was already relatively underpaid
-he gave the Cardinals a chance for an extension before the season and they blew him off
-LaRussa retired

there were reasons enough for him to leave
 
2011-12-08 12:30:59 PM
Killer Cars: WTF Indeed: Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004.

Without knowing the guy, or following the STL Cardinals in particular, I'm guessing his loyalty was more to LaRussa than the organization and city as whole.


Bingo. Still glad LaRussa is gone, now get McGwire out as hitting coach.
 
2011-12-08 12:31:05 PM
WTF Indeed: DamnYankees: How is it "destroying his image"? He didn't betray anyone or do anything horrible. He signed somewhere else after bringing 2 titles to the Cardinals.

Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004. He's 32, at the end of his prime, and the self life for MLB players is back to being 35-38 like it was before steroids. He can't DH in the NL, so he had to know that a 8-10 year deal in the NL would be crazy. He took it for selfless reasons. Which is absolutely fine, it's a business, but he still sold out his image for an extra $30 million.


Has anyone ever given more than one "hometown" deal in their career?
 
2011-12-08 12:31:52 PM
The Bestest: oh hey, a thread.. guess we can leave the deer poacher thread alone now

for those saying "image, legacy" and whatnot, consider these things:
-he was already relatively underpaid
-he gave the Cardinals a chance for an extension before the season and they blew him off
-LaRussa retired

there were reasons enough for him to leave


I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"
 
2011-12-08 12:33:07 PM
Your Zionist Leader: I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"

Are you saying he doesn't deserve A-Rod money?
 
2011-12-08 12:34:12 PM
The Bestest: Your Zionist Leader: I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"

Are you saying he doesn't deserve A-Rod money?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. A-Rod money is ridiculous with A-Rod getting it.
 
2011-12-08 12:35:01 PM
Uchiha_Cycliste: jackiepaper: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not LA, in OC =/

Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg

I grew up in that miserable, pretentious, self-centered, hell-hole that is South Orange County. I've earned the right to call it that.

\got out as soon as I could and have no intention of returning for more than a couple of days.


Fair enough. I grew up in the 714, which is "Orange County." 949 is "the OC."

/Biggest Angels FA signing since Reggie Jackson
//Never goin back to SoCal.
 
2011-12-08 12:35:12 PM
As an A's fan, I am NOT happy about this
 
2011-12-08 12:35:42 PM
Your Zionist Leader: The Bestest: oh hey, a thread.. guess we can leave the deer poacher thread alone now

for those saying "image, legacy" and whatnot, consider these things:
-he was already relatively underpaid
-he gave the Cardinals a chance for an extension before the season and they blew him off
-LaRussa retired

there were reasons enough for him to leave

I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"


I'd argue that it's more than they should have offered. As an NL team the Cards can't DH him when the legs start to go.
 
2011-12-08 12:36:37 PM
Your Zionist Leader: Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. A-Rod money is ridiculous with A-Rod getting it.

Well, it might be "ridiculous" but I think even indigenous Amazonian tribes in their 19-0 Patriots t-shirts knew the market would bear more than $198 over 9yrs for his services.

They apparently hoped he would take hometown discount #2 and they were wrong.
 
2011-12-08 12:36:52 PM
Flappyhead: Your Zionist Leader: The Bestest: oh hey, a thread.. guess we can leave the deer poacher thread alone now

for those saying "image, legacy" and whatnot, consider these things:
-he was already relatively underpaid
-he gave the Cardinals a chance for an extension before the season and they blew him off
-LaRussa retired

there were reasons enough for him to leave

I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"

I'd argue that it's more than they should have offered. As an NL team the Cards can't DH him when the legs start to go.


I agree with you. Like I said, middle infielders, starting pitching. Move Berkman to first for now.
 
2011-12-08 12:36:56 PM
Why Would I Read the Article: As an A's fan, I am NOT happy about this

The bright side is you'll get to pick on the Astros in two seasons.
 
2011-12-08 12:38:08 PM
$250 million is an awful lot to give to a 34 year old.
 
2011-12-08 12:38:09 PM
Your Zionist Leader: Yanks_RSJ: jackiepaper: Don't call it that.

/michaelbluth.jpg

Awesome.

As for the Cardinals, now they can sign Prince Fielder for 75% of what Pujols just signed for and be just fine.

I'd rather they use the money on middle infielders and starting pitching.


Yeah, this. Bullpen overhaul, anyone?
 
2011-12-08 12:38:15 PM
Your Zionist Leader: I dunno, 9 years and $198 million is hardly "blowing him off"

Are you saying he doesn't deserve A-Rod money?


A-Rod doesn't deserve A-Rod money
 
2011-12-08 12:38:17 PM
Mariners fan here.

shiatting my pants.
 
2011-12-08 12:38:24 PM
I guess the Astros couldn't escape Pujols by changing leagues. Poor bastards.
 
2011-12-08 12:38:43 PM
Killer Cars: Your Zionist Leader: Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. A-Rod money is ridiculous with A-Rod getting it.

Well, it might be "ridiculous" but I think even indigenous Amazonian tribes in their 19-0 Patriots t-shirts knew the market would bear more than $198 over 9yrs for his services.

They apparently hoped he would take hometown discount #2 and they were wrong.


Probably, but the market that would bear that isn't in St Louis. Like I said, I wish him the best of luck with the new team. He always treated the fans well, and everyone sort of knew it would come to this. At least it wasn't a Lebron style "Decision".
 
2011-12-08 12:40:55 PM
WTF Indeed: DamnYankees: How is it "destroying his image"? He didn't betray anyone or do anything horrible. He signed somewhere else after bringing 2 titles to the Cardinals.

Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004. He's 32 33, going on 34, at the end of his prime, and the self life for MLB players is back to being 35-38 like it was before steroids. He can't DH in the NL, so he had to know that a 8-10 year deal in the NL would be crazy. He took it for selfless reasons. Which is absolutely fine, it's a business, but he still sold out his image for an extra $30 million.
 
2011-12-08 12:41:22 PM
It'll be fun to watch him play here. Glad it's not my team or my money though.
 
2011-12-08 12:42:16 PM
Say what you will about his age and durability, he did come back from his arm injury pretty quickly. It was like 'Pujols breaks arm'. 10 days later "Pujols hits home run." 10 days later "Pujols back in the HR lead in the NL."

WTF?
 
2011-12-08 12:43:45 PM
RonwellQuincyDobbs: WTF Indeed: DamnYankees: How is it "destroying his image"? He didn't betray anyone or do anything horrible. He signed somewhere else after bringing 2 titles to the Cardinals.

Being selfless was his image. He took less money to stay there in 2004. He's 32, at the end of his prime, and the self life for MLB players is back to being 35-38 like it was before steroids. He can't DH in the NL, so he had to know that a 8-10 year deal in the NL would be crazy. He took it for selfless reasons. Which is absolutely fine, it's a business, but he still sold out his image for an extra $30 million.

Has anyone ever given more than one "hometown" deal in their career?


Joe Mauer. But that's s fluke. He was born and raised in Minnesota...The twins literally are his home team.
 
2011-12-08 12:44:29 PM
If the Cardinals or their fans try to slime Pujols on his way out the door, it's incredibly dishonest. They've gotten one of the most productive players in our lifetime and 2 World Series rings at a tremendous discount. He was making about $10 million a year below what his peers were getting on the open market.

If the Cardinals would have offered him an an extension similar to the contract Mark Tiexeira signed after he came to the Yankees, he would still be a Cardinal for the next 5-6 years. Instead the Cardinals insisted on milking the cashcow for all that it was worth until he was on his way out the door. They made their bottomline money based decisions for years, and Pujols just made his first.
 
2011-12-08 12:45:00 PM
Here's his quote from 2009:

"Do I want to be in St. Louis forever? Of course," Pujols said. "Because that city has opened the door to me and my family like no other city is ever going to do. I don't want to [go to] any other city, but if that time comes I'm pretty sure wherever I go they are going to do the same way -- hopefully, open the doors. But I don't think it's to be anything compared to St. Louis.

"People from other teams want to play in St. Louis and they're jealous that we're in St. Louis because the fans are unbelievable. So why would you want to leave a place like St. Louis to go somewhere else and make $3 or $4 more million a year? It's not about the money. I already got my money. It's about winning and that's it. It's about accomplishing my goal and my goal is to try to win. If this organization shifts the other way then I have to go the other way."


As a Cards fan, I'm not really upset. With the cards self imposed spending cap, it would have been 1/5-1/4 of each years payroll to one guy that will be declining. Just wish they could have gotten Buehrle to ease the sting. Carp, Wainright, and Buehrle would have made me happy.
 
2011-12-08 12:46:31 PM
I think Albert has earned the right to play for whomever he wants to without being called a sell out. He's arguably the best player of his generation, he's already won 2 titles with the Cardinals, and he's been nothing short of an upstanding guy from what I can tell. If somebody is going to wave 250 million in your face at age 30+, how could anybody turn that down?
 
2011-12-08 12:47:38 PM
All this talk about "You can't DH in the NL" is pretty ridiculous. He's a 1st baseman, not a shortstop or centerfielder. If you're really that concerned about 1st base defense you don't hand the job to Lance Berkman.
 
2011-12-08 12:48:34 PM
InmanRoshi: If the Cardinals or their fans try to slime Pujols on his way out the door, it's incredibly dishonest. They've gotten one of the most productive players in our lifetime and 2 World Series rings at a tremendous discount. He was making about $10 million a year below what his peers were getting on the open market.

If the Cardinals would have offered him an an extension similar to the contract Mark Tiexeira signed after he came to the Yankees, he would still be a Cardinal for the next 5-6 years. Instead the Cardinals insisted on milking the cashcow for all that it was worth until he was on his way out the door. They made their bottomline money based decisions for years, and Pujols just made his first.


That's not quite how it went down, but no one I've heard has been bashing him for leaving. He didn't want a Mark Texiera extension, he wanted to be the highest paid player in baseball. That's fine, and he probably should be the highest paid, but St Louis simply could not afford that. Like I've been saying, best of luck to him with the Angels. I'll concentrate on rooting for the guys wearing the laundry now though.
 
2011-12-08 12:48:42 PM
VvonderJesus: I think Albert has earned the right to play for whomever he wants to without being called a sell out. He's arguably the best player of his generation, he's already won 2 titles with the Cardinals, and he's been nothing short of an upstanding guy from what I can tell. If somebody is going to wave 250 million in your face at age 30+, how could anybody turn that down?

Nobody has to "earn" the right to be paid market value for their services. You're right that he did what anybody would do, but I disagree with the idea that it's a right you have to earn.
 
2011-12-08 12:50:38 PM
InmanRoshi: All this talk about "You can't DH in the NL" is pretty ridiculous. He's a 1st baseman, not a shortstop or centerfielder. If you're really that concerned about 1st base defense you don't hand the job to Lance Berkman.

You're really trying to stir the pot with Cards fans and create animosity where none exists. The worst I've heard anyone say is "don't let the door hit you". No one has said he shouldn't be making truckloads of money, but St Louis isn't New York and never will be.
 
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