I've never seen one Saw movie and felt even mildly entertained.

Not my type of movie, but there will always be a market for mindless horror films, so this is not surprising.

Isn't this just the standard capitalist business model???????


Lionsgate executive hints that the Saw series whatever will continue for as long as moviegoers are stupid enough to keep shelling out money to see the same damn movie again and again and again and again and again and again

Tom_Slick: Not my type of movie, but there will always be a market for mindless horror films, so this is not surprising.

Exactly, they are cheap to make and always turn at least some profit.

Yeah, we'll see Saw again. Unfortunately, it'll be one of those franchising decisions that Lionsgate will paste on any gory movie that needs a boost when it goes direct-to-video. It's what happened to American Pie. And it would be silly to just let that name rot while it could be used to move more product.

That's a shame because they wrapped it up pretty nicely with the last one.

Pink blood looked bad though.

Lionsgate executive hints that the Saw series will continue for as long as moviegoers are stupid enough to keep shelling out money to see the same damn movie again and again and again and again and again and again

I hate to be the one to break it to you Subby, but that is what moviegoers are doing anyway.

The mistake they made (besides making the movies in the first place) was killing off Jigsaw. They movies were always absurd, so they might as well go full soap opera and bring him back somehow. Either he really didn't die, or it was his twin brother, etc.

Malcolm_Sex: I've never seen one Saw movie and felt even mildly entertained.

Clearly you have never seen the rifftrax version.

FLMountainMan: Torture porn - the new teacher of moral values.

Last couple had victims including someone who lied his way into being a media star on other peoples suffering, insurance workers whose jobs were to find loopholes to deny coverage to people with expensive medical problems, people who dealt with bad mortages, etc. Such people being tortured instead of rewarded isn't really the worst moral lesson.

Meanwhile, some shell out a fiver for pete and repeat headlines


/it's not news...

I don't see how they can keep it going at this point

MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW:

The major story of Saw 4-7 was Jill and Hoffman fighting over Jigsaw's legacy. That's over, both are dead, and the ending to 7 implied that many of the survivors of Jigsaw's games become minions who carry out his work. His "work" has gone viral, and will continue to spread...while that leaves everything open to untold sequels, there are no major characters left to involve.

Seriously, who in the hell goes to see any of the Saw movies, and are those people allowed to vote (because they shouldn't be)?

Well, duh!

Producer: Hey! I want another olympic-sized swimming pool on my estate... Have we made a Saw movie in the last 6 months?

It's like an ATM, it keeps spitting out money.

lisarenee3505: Seriously, who in the hell goes to see any of the Saw movies, and are those people allowed to vote (because they shouldn't be)?

Hey, if you can get that onto a ballot along with not allowing people who enjoy Twilight to breed and the death penalty for those who enjoy Jersey Shore, I'll even vote to get it passed into law.

At least while I can still vote.

chewielouie: The mistake they made (besides making the movies in the first place) was killing off Jigsaw. They movies were always absurd, so they might as well go full soap opera and bring him back somehow. Either he really didn't die, or it was his twin brother, etc.

I disagree. The mistake they made was swaying too far from Jigsaw's stated purpose before he was dead, namely "teaching people the value of life." The first movie was grim and gruesome to be sure, but every trap was meant (in a really warped way) to point out something wrong with the person in the trap. Shawnee Smith's trap in particular illustrated that: "are you willing to save your life by killing this drug dealer who's been keeping you strung out for years?"

It's why the first movie was thought provoking, despite the horror-inducing levels of gore. While all of the victims were mostly blameless, certainly not deserving of their punishment, they weren't COMPLETELY blameless. Then the second one came around and all of that went out the window. They tried to get it back with some of the later ones, like in the third, but they f%$#ed up the formula by having the traps imperil innocent people to teach other people a lesson. Oh, there were a few traps here and there that kind of got the point, like the opener in the last film ("are you more angry with the other guy or the lying biatch who allowed for the other guy in the first place?") but for the most part they were just a bunch of random people being tortured and killed for the sake of putting them through hell.

I'll watch the first one again. The rest are crap.

Sawday the Thirteenth: Jigsaw Meets Jason.

You just know it's going to happen at some point.

When is Golden Compass 2 coming out?

yukichigai: chewielouie: The mistake they made (besides making the movies in the first place) was killing off Jigsaw. They movies were always absurd, so they might as well go full soap opera and bring him back somehow. Either he really didn't die, or it was his twin brother, etc.

I disagree. The mistake they made was swaying too far from Jigsaw's stated purpose before he was dead, namely "teaching people the value of life." The first movie was grim and gruesome to be sure, but every trap was meant (in a really warped way) to point out something wrong with the person in the trap. Shawnee Smith's trap in particular illustrated that: "are you willing to save your life by killing this drug dealer who's been keeping you strung out for years?"

It's why the first movie was thought provoking, despite the horror-inducing levels of gore. While all of the victims were mostly blameless, certainly not deserving of their punishment, they weren't COMPLETELY blameless. Then the second one came around and all of that went out the window. They tried to get it back with some of the later ones, like in the third, but they f%$#ed up the formula by having the traps imperil innocent people to teach other people a lesson. Oh, there were a few traps here and there that kind of got the point, like the opener in the last film ("are you more angry with the other guy or the lying biatch who allowed for the other guy in the first place?") but for the most part they were just a bunch of random people being tortured and killed for the sake of putting them through hell.

I'll watch the first one again. The rest are crap.

Nitpicking, but Amanda's cell mate in the first one was some random guy, not her dealer.

The one consistant thing about the characterization of Jigsaw was that he was inconsistent. His message to Rig in IV was that other people's salvation was only in their hands, and out of his, while literally everyone's fate in III was in the hands of someone else.

I always just thought of the character as someone who liked to play sick games and come up with farked up experiments. Whatever he told whoever he was preaching to was only convenient for how he was trying to manipulate them.

Things really went downhill in the Hoffman era (parts 4-7), I never really bought into him being the main guy. That said the ending of Saw 7 left it wide open to take the story anywhere they want to. Still amazed they haven't already churned out some straight to DVD sequel. Allegedly "The Collector" was originally supposed to be a prequel, they just repackaged it as it's own title.

/yes I've seen all of them
//don't judge me

Just do what I do, wait till they've been out on dvd for a year and get a used copy for .50 cents. They're entertaining enough when you're bored and there's nothing else to watch.

KoC: Nitpicking, but Amanda's cell mate in the first one was some random guy, not her dealer.

Are you sure? I swear there was mention in one of the later scenes that he was a known drug dealer, heroin in particular, which partially influenced her decision to get clean.

KoC: The one consistant thing about the characterization of Jigsaw was that he was inconsistent. His message to Rig in IV was that other people's salvation was only in their hands, and out of his, while literally everyone's fate in III was in the hands of someone else.

That's the thing, it was only inconsistent once the sequels started coming out. Saw II wasn't even originally a Saw movie; it was actually pitched as a separate horror flick and initially rejected for being "too much like Saw." Once they tried to jam that square peg into a round hole things started breaking down quickly.

I do agree though: Saw III was probably the worst offender in terms of violating Jigsaw's message. I like to think that it was that way because Amanda was in charge of the "save someone else" traps - much like she interfered with the ones seen in the beginning of the film - but the film never made that clear. Never hinted at it really. That's the point where the series officially became gore-porn with no plot, and gore-porn doesn't do anything for me.