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2011-12-08 07:08:27 AM
Should nuns be taking birth control pills?

Not if they want to earn more on the pole (new window).
 
2011-12-08 07:59:20 AM
Immaculate headline, subby.
 
2011-12-08 08:32:43 AM
...... I'd say so, since their boss has a history of impregnating women without even touching them...... surely that's part of the job?
 
2011-12-08 08:40:30 AM
FTA: Women who don't put out get cancer.

Ladies, step up for your cancer prevention treatment!
/Well, some of you.
 
2011-12-08 08:41:49 AM
FTFA

95,000 nuns in the world, and they are paying "a terrible price for their chastity"


/obvious
 
2011-12-08 08:42:01 AM
God impregnates women without touching them.
Priests touch boys without impregnating them.

(Doing it wrong.)
 
2011-12-08 08:42:11 AM
What does god need with a trojan?
 
2011-12-08 08:43:25 AM
/golfclaps at the headline
//thinks some nuns should NOT be celibate

citizenmcgeedotcom.files.wordpress.com
 
2011-12-08 08:44:13 AM
There are other uses for birth control pills, such as regulation of the menstrual cycle. There are conditions that would make birth control pills necessary for some women, even those who don't intend to have sex or get pregnant.

That said, it could be argued that an irregular menstrual cycle is God's will and attempting to alter it through the use of drugs is somehow an affront to Him. But realistically, medicine has never been considered sinful, and the taking of medicine is absolutely permitted in the Catholic religion.

So, as long as the nun is taking the birth control pills for reasons other than preventing pregnancy, it is both permitted and encouraged so that she can be in her best health to do God's work.
 
2011-12-08 08:44:57 AM
Could God create a birth control pill so powerful that not even he could impregnate a woman who's taking it?
 
2011-12-08 08:45:44 AM
i.ebayimg.com

You're welcome.
 
2011-12-08 08:47:16 AM
Malcolm Gladwell already covered the background for this one.
 
2011-12-08 08:51:07 AM
The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.
 
2011-12-08 08:52:50 AM

RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.


Here Here!
 
2011-12-08 08:56:28 AM
I'm pretty sure I married a nun... nun in the morning, nun at night
 
2011-12-08 09:00:53 AM
What a nun who should consider birth control might look like:

i197.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-08 09:07:03 AM

Wytchone: RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.

Here Here!


I worked for a Diocese. Most of them haven't been celibate since medieval times IMHO. One way or another. Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Say no more...
 
2011-12-08 09:08:04 AM

teylix: /golfclaps at the headline
//thinks some nuns should NOT be celibate

[citizenmcgeedotcom.files.wordpress.com image 403x487]


She is truly blessed. Praize Jeebus!
 
2011-12-08 09:10:41 AM

RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.


Allowing gay parishioners to marry is another another necessary step to prevent that. Before gays became "intrinsically disordered", the Catholic Church encouraged gay youth to join the priesthood. After all, only the "acts" were sinful, not the person. Therefore you got generations of emotionally and sexually stunted gay priests joining to live a celibate "sin-free" life while surrounded by young boys of the same emotional and sexual maturity level as their own farked-up selves.
 
2011-12-08 09:10:57 AM
Nuns are to celibacy as Tebow is to virginity. He's had his way with a few tight ends in his day all while keeping his vow to the Lord. Nuns are the same way. When they aren't scissoring each other, then they're sneaking a load of frankincense through the backdoor. God knows, though. They aren't fooling anyone. Tebow will get his day before the Almighty and he will be judge accordingly.
 
2011-12-08 09:20:07 AM

Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling: Wytchone: RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.

Here Here!

I worked for a Diocese. Most of them haven't been celibate since medieval times IMHO. One way or another. Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Say no more...


I have been waiting for a Nun scandal to hit the news since the 90s.
Old and busted. Priest and boys
New Hotness. Nun sex!
 
2011-12-08 09:26:13 AM
What meat can a priest can eat on Friday?
Nun.
 
2011-12-08 09:38:49 AM

RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.


What? You mean all this stuff isn't in the Bible and they just sort of cobbled it together over the years based on regional beliefs and political necessities but now will fight tooth and nail because it's "a matter of faith"?

That seems pretty far fetched. I can't read latin, but my priest assures me we're supposed to tithe 10% and the Church gets first dibs on our stuff when we die.
 
2011-12-08 09:40:03 AM

spentmiles: Nuns are to celibacy as Tebow is to virginity. He's had his way with a few tight ends in his day all while keeping his vow to the Lord. Nuns are the same way. When they aren't scissoring each other, then they're sneaking a load of frankincense through the backdoor. God knows, though. They aren't fooling anyone. Tebow will get his day before the Almighty and he will be judge accordingly.


-4/10
 
2011-12-08 09:44:23 AM
Came for pictures of naughty nuns.

/will come back later
 
2011-12-08 09:44:46 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: There are other uses for birth control pills, such as regulation of the menstrual cycle. There are conditions that would make birth control pills necessary for some women, even those who don't intend to have sex or get pregnant.

That said, it could be argued that an irregular menstrual cycle is God's will and attempting to alter it through the use of drugs is somehow an affront to Him. But realistically, medicine has never been considered sinful, and the taking of medicine is absolutely permitted in the Catholic religion.

So, as long as the nun is taking the birth control pills for reasons other than preventing pregnancy, it is both permitted and encouraged so that she can be in her best health to do God's work.


Nice to see some one get it right.

What bothers me more in the article was the thought that every nun should be on some form of hormonal birth control. Being one of the people who honestly doesn't tolerate it well, I really think that is a very bad idea. Of course, I'm pregnant with baby number four so take that with a good dose of salt.

/what do you call people who use the rhythm method?
//Parents!
///yes, I am making fun of myself, but I don't much mind having number 4.
 
2011-12-08 09:46:27 AM
Everything gives you cancer if you live long enough for it to have a chance to. And every woman has the right to risk blood clots as she ages.
 
2011-12-08 09:48:12 AM
u1.ipernity.com
You don't need birth control if you fark them in the eye hole!
 
2011-12-08 09:50:02 AM

telosphilos: What bothers me more in the article was the thought that every nun should be on some form of hormonal birth control. Being one of the people who honestly doesn't tolerate it well, I really think that is a very bad idea. Of course, I'm pregnant with baby number four so take that with a good dose of salt.

/what do you call people who use the rhythm method?
//Parents!
///yes, I am making fun of myself, but I don't much mind having number 4.


i42.tinypic.com

Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.
 
2011-12-08 09:56:19 AM

spentmiles: telosphilos: What bothers me more in the article was the thought that every nun should be on some form of hormonal birth control. Being one of the people who honestly doesn't tolerate it well, I really think that is a very bad idea. Of course, I'm pregnant with baby number four so take that with a good dose of salt.

/what do you call people who use the rhythm method?
//Parents!
///yes, I am making fun of myself, but I don't much mind having number 4.

[i42.tinypic.com image 266x400]

Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.


Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.
 
2011-12-08 09:59:53 AM

Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.


The big difference is there is a large age spread between them all. I can care for them all because there is time to care for them all as they deserve. You just have to schedule things and make decisions on which activities you are going to do and which you aren't. Lots of things like sports, religion classes, music lessons and so on can be scheduled concurrently so you take the whole crew together for them.

Only the middle two are close in age. I'm not insane like that woman. You really should spend some time around people with bigger families to understand it better and by bigger I mean 3 to 6 kids, not the insanity of more than six. And do watch your words, your tone is extremely insulting in text. Lots of people want more than one child, I just happened to marry into a particularly fertile family and honestly can't take birth control.

/autism is not a deficiency. so what if my eldest will never be normal, he's a good kid and a good big brother.
 
2011-12-08 10:08:30 AM
My sister was put on the pill for the same reason. She was bleeding for a whole month. So they put her on the pill to even out her cycle. This was when she was around 14. It's an incredibly common treatment for gynecological problems, but thanks to fundies who like to judge, we had to put it in a brown paper bag whenever we left the office to avoid dirty looks. She since been using a hormone-infused IUD.

They also use it for other hormonal problems, like Non-classical Congential Adrenal Hyperplasia and polycystic ovary syndrome. I really don't see the issue here. They're not taking oral contraceptives as a contraceptive. They're taking it as a medical treatment. Is it just because the word "contraceptive" is attached? Maybe if they just called it "tricyclic progestin/estradiol treatment" there wouldn't be such a problem.

/on the Ring
//keep losing track of weeks
///actually disqualified me for an oxytocin study
 
2011-12-08 10:08:58 AM

spentmiles: Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.

Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.


If you were trying not to be personal, you suck at it.
 
2011-12-08 10:12:37 AM

Iceman_Cometh: spentmiles: Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.

Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.

If you were trying not to be personal, you suck at it.


You can shut the fark up.
 
2011-12-08 10:15:15 AM

RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.


Bears repeating.

/Also
//I wouldn't feel so freakin' bad to see nun porn
///Or nurse porn, or french maid porn...
 
2011-12-08 10:16:58 AM
Ya'll is all agoin to hail, 'specially you subby. Somebody member me not to stand close to enny uv ewe inna 'lectrical storm.
Thankee Elvis!
Um...er...Puhraise Thuhu Lawrd!

Yeah that oughtta work.
 
2011-12-08 10:17:23 AM
cdn.wl.uproxx.com
 
2011-12-08 10:21:37 AM

spentmiles: Iceman_Cometh: spentmiles: Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.

Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.

If you were trying not to be personal, you suck at it.

You can shut the fark up.


I now have you farkied as "complete asshole." Go learn to make a sincere apology and come back when you can interact without being a dick.
 
2011-12-08 10:24:49 AM

Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling: Wytchone: RexTalionis: The whole thing with celibate nuns and priests had nothing to do with Christianity originally and was merely a medieval construct, anyway. Let them marry and have sex just like the early Christians did. It'll make for better adjusted clergy, and not the weird kid-touching bunch we've got now.

Here Here!

I worked for a Diocese. Most of them haven't been celibate since medieval times IMHO. One way or another. Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Say no more...


No no, please do say more. I'm, uh, doing research.
 
2011-12-08 10:24:51 AM
But more to the article's point. Headline is not accurate. The Blessed Virgin was not a nun; otherwise she could not have married St. Joseph.

BTW, I'm glad that everytime I consider purchasing TotalFark, a Catholic-trolling headline shows up to change my mind.
 
2011-12-08 10:27:32 AM

spentmiles: telosphilos: What bothers me more in the article was the thought that every nun should be on some form of hormonal birth control. Being one of the people who honestly doesn't tolerate it well, I really think that is a very bad idea. Of course, I'm pregnant with baby number four so take that with a good dose of salt.

/what do you call people who use the rhythm method?
//Parents!
///yes, I am making fun of myself, but I don't much mind having number 4.

[i42.tinypic.com image 266x400]

Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.



I'm going to assume you're either a troll, or a complete asshole, which I suppose really are one in the same.
 
2011-12-08 10:27:42 AM

blockhouse: spentmiles: Iceman_Cometh: spentmiles: Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.

Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.

If you were trying not to be personal, you suck at it.

You can shut the fark up.

I now have you farkied as "complete asshole." Go learn to make a sincere apology and come back when you can interact without being a dick.


Funny, I didn't take him so seriously. I think he really doesn't get how large families work and has little experience with healthy families where there are more than two kids.
 
2011-12-08 10:35:47 AM

telosphilos: blockhouse: spentmiles: Iceman_Cometh: spentmiles: Four?! Jesus Christ, take a break already. Why do people insist on having more children than they could possibly care for? You've whittled your attention supply down to 25% per child, and that's if you completely ignore yourself and your husband. Were you not satisfied with the first one? What was so deficient about him that drove you to attempt something better? Not trying to pick at you or be a jerk, but I really don't understand the motivation of people like you.

Didn't look at your profile until after I posted that. Open mouth, insert foot. Just snark, not meant to be personal. Sorry if it hurt your feelings in anyway.

If you were trying not to be personal, you suck at it.

You can shut the fark up.

I now have you farkied as "complete asshole." Go learn to make a sincere apology and come back when you can interact without being a dick.

Funny, I didn't take him so seriously. I think he really doesn't get how large families work and has little experience with healthy families where there are more than two kids.


I grew up 1 of 4 kids. I never considered our family to be large. In fact, for the time, it's was pretty average.

I think he's just a narcissistic asshole. And I'm guessing he has plenty of experience being that way.
 
2011-12-08 10:37:19 AM

colithian: My sister was put on the pill for the same reason. She was bleeding for a whole month. So they put her on the pill to even out her cycle. This was when she was around 14. It's an incredibly common treatment for gynecological problems, but thanks to fundies who like to judge, we had to put it in a brown paper bag whenever we left the office to avoid dirty looks. She since been using a hormone-infused IUD.

They also use it for other hormonal problems, like Non-classical Congential Adrenal Hyperplasia and polycystic ovary syndrome. I really don't see the issue here. They're not taking oral contraceptives as a contraceptive. They're taking it as a medical treatment. Is it just because the word "contraceptive" is attached? Maybe if they just called it "tricyclic progestin/estradiol treatment" there wouldn't be such a problem.

/on the Ring
//keep losing track of weeks
///actually disqualified me for an oxytocin study



This is what pisses me off about fundies who want to ban birth control for everyone. I have a strong family history of ovarian cysts. My doctor told me I should be fine as long as I take the pill. There HAS to be fundie girls out there who could benefit from the pill for one reason or another but their parents would forbid them from taking it.

It's sad. But I'm glad that some Catholics apparently understand it's medical benefits.
 
2011-12-08 10:38:50 AM
You know this whole article is really about the fact that the Catholic church will not pay for birth control for anyone who works for it- whether you're a secretary or a nun.

//Every sperm is good
 
2011-12-08 10:42:13 AM

Edy Utz: You know this whole article is really about the fact that the Catholic church will not pay for birth control for anyone who works for it- whether you're a secretary or a nun.

//Every sperm is good


I doubt that the Catholic Church underwrites its own heath care system.
 
2011-12-08 10:43:44 AM


This is what pisses me off about fundies who want to ban birth control for everyone. I have a strong family history of ovarian cysts. My doctor told me I should be fine as long as I take the pill. There HAS to be fundie girls out there who could benefit from the pill for one reason or another but their parents would forbid them from taking it.

It's sad. But I'm glad that some Catholics apparently understand it's medical benefits.


Actually, it takes some digging to find the rulings in the dogma that explicitly state that it is perfectly fine when it is for a real medical reason aside from contraception, but it is there. We have our fundies too and they are really farking weird. Still, even our fundies can't argue when it is explicitly stated that it is fine when used for real medical reasons.

If I remember correctly, some nuns were given birth control of some sort, likely pills, during the Rowandan conflicts? It was specifically in response to the rapes that were occurring when they found a convent to attack. Historically we also ban ritual scarification, and yet there is a well recorded history of a convent full of nuns cutting off their own noses to make themselves repulsive to invaders.

/is a sunday school teacher at the moment
//my fifth graders love the gory stories. we catholics have the best gory stories.
 
2011-12-08 10:45:46 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Edy Utz: You know this whole article is really about the fact that the Catholic church will not pay for birth control for anyone who works for it- whether you're a secretary or a nun.

//Every sperm is good

I doubt that the Catholic Church underwrites its own heath care system.


Actually, yes it does. But it still has to act within the laws of the country it is present in, so in some countries the heads of the church likely can't refuse to fill those prescriptions.
 
2011-12-08 10:50:56 AM
Only if they're running around dressed as Alter Boys. We all know no one there is interested in women.
 
2011-12-08 10:53:28 AM

telosphilos: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Edy Utz: You know this whole article is really about the fact that the Catholic church will not pay for birth control for anyone who works for it- whether you're a secretary or a nun.

//Every sperm is good

I doubt that the Catholic Church underwrites its own heath care system.

Actually, yes it does. But it still has to act within the laws of the country it is present in, so in some countries the heads of the church likely can't refuse to fill those prescriptions.


I stand corrected. I also need to proof read my posts. health care not heath care.

Heath care would just be silly. Damn tasty candy bar though.
 
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