My daughter and her longtime partner were married in Iowa a couple of weeks ago, so I'm getting a kick...

$12m? Over a whole state? Wow, that's a vast sum of money...

It's sad when arguments for allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference have to be turned into stupid economic ones. If I was anti-gay $12m for a state wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

Slaxl: $12m? Over a whole state? Wow, that's a vast sum of money...

It's sad when arguments for allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference have to be turned into stupid economic ones. If I was anti-gay $12m for a state wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

Well, it is 3% of the welfare budget. (That's as significant as I can make it.)

By population, that's over $1b for the whole country. A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.

Fundies are always butthurt of some kind of bullshiat or another...

This time of the year it's mostly over not being able to ram their religion down people's throat anymore, but homosexuals are always a go to group to hate for these folks.

No amount of money will ever make a vile bigot change his or her unAmerican hatred.

Especially if it's religiously inspired.

Roy_G_Biv: Let me guess now, would "allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference" include individuals, institutions and small businesses that don't want to have anything to do with gay marriages?

How has legalized homosexual marriages restricted individuals, institutions and small businesses against homosexual marriages from living their lives and burdened them with outside interference?

Iblis824: Obama gets to diddle your ladies, to make sure they're pure.

He should appoint Cain as Secretary of jus primae noctis

SixPaperJoint: keylock71: Roy_G_Biv: Let me guess now, would "allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference" include individuals, institutions and small businesses that don't want to have anything to do with gay marriages?

How has legalized homosexual marriages restricted individuals, institutions and small businesses against homosexual marriages from living their lives and burdened them with outside interference?

Makes it harder to live a lie?

That's the thing, though, they are still free to be ignorant and bigoted and tell as many lies to themselves (or anyone else) as they want.

Roy_G_Biv: Let me guess now, would "allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference" include individuals, institutions and small businesses that don't want to have anything to do with interracial marriages?

I'm guessing not.

So knock off the faux-libertarian bullshiat.

It's the same thing.

scrotal_aroma:

That's a pretty terrible troll alt you've got yourself there

DrD'isInfotainment: vygramul: A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money.

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Hey Thanks homey.

Glad someone got the reference.

Rent is too damn high: Gay marriage has been around in some countries for 10 years now. Have they descended into chaos/poverty/death and destruction yet? Why not?

You know what's really funny?

Israel is pro gay rights. Gays can have common law marriages. And while actual marriages aren't performed, Israel does recognize the marriage of gay couples from other nations as legally equal to straight marriages.

kingoomieiii: Roy_G_Biv: Let me guess now, would "allowing people to live their lives as they desire and free from outside interference" include individuals, institutions and small businesses that don't want to have anything to do with interracial marriages?

I'm guessing not.

So knock off the faux-libertarian bullshiat.

It's the same thing.

It is actually pretty easy. You don't have to take their business. Churches don't have to perform those ceremonies. The folks who have issue, aren't affected in any way, save that they know that somewhere, out there, gay folks are living out lives just like their own.

If that grinds folks' gears, then no matter of law is going to affect that. They just can keep on hating, and their fellow citizens can live their lives.

Headso: meta

The DIMS DIMS DIMS guy complaining about name calling. Now that's funny right there.

Jake Havechek: So with the Right Wing obsessed about "personhood" and "sanctity of marriage", does that mean a corporation can now marry a fetus?

Good question. I don't believe gay marriage leads to marrying turtles, children, or Euler's equation, because none of those things give consent in a manner we recognize. However, corporations give consent and enter into contracts all the time. So gay marriage WILL lead to person-"person" marriages.

alowishus: To be fair, those that were against interracial marriage were predominately democrats.

To be fair, those that were against interracial marriage were predominately conservative.

CPennypacker: Edsel: Aarontology: Rent is too damn high: Gay marriage has been around in some countries for 10 years now. Have they descended into chaos/poverty/death and destruction yet? Why not?

You know what's really funny?

Israel is pro gay rights. Gays can have common law marriages. And while actual marriages aren't performed, Israel does recognize the marriage of gay couples from other nations as legally equal to straight marriages.

Yes, but once you-know-who comes back, all that is going to change...

Elvis?

Blasphemer.

Elvis is everywhere. Elvis is everybody. Elvis is still The King.