Looks promising. Wake me up when he finishes.

By the time he has it working perfectly Andriod peanut butter cup will be out and people will just wait for that.

I'm holding out for Android nutella cheesecake.

When's ICS come out for real? I have a Bionic and a Transformer that are both within the release window for an update.

Keeping my fingers crossed that they figure out a way around Nook Tablet's locked bootloader. The additional RAM, storage, and card slot is worth the extra $50 if I can put CM9/ICS on it. I'll still settle for the KF if that doesn't end up working out, though... I have a feeling it's going to have the bigger dev community.

IXI Jim IXI: I gave up waiting on at&t upgrading the Infuse (August! Honest) and ended up trying roms from xda-developers. I'll never go back to stock again

You should know better, unless it's your only option in the area.

$200 for a crap tablet. I'd rather spend a hundred or two more and get something that will actually do what I need.

As I mentioned in the other Android thread, the following are some of the crippling disadvantages to owning a Kindle Fire "tablet".

Strikes against Amazon and Fire tablet:
- Only 6 gb useable memory
- No expandable memory or micro sd card
- No camera
- No microphone
- No GPS
- No Bluetooth
- No 3G
- No Home button
- No volume button
- No folders
- No Google apps/environment

incendi: Phil Moskowitz: I'm holding out for Android nutella cheesecake.

Oh god that sounds delicious



From http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/nutella--cheesecake/detail.aspx

Ingredients

2 (8 ounce) packages cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup white sugar
1 (13 ounce) jar chocolate hazelnut spread (nutella)
1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 (9 inch) prepared graham cracker crust

Directions

In a large bowl, beat cream cheese and sugar until smooth. Blend in Nutella and vanilla until no streaks remain. pour into crust. Refrigerate for at least 4 hours before serving.

jbrooks544: Strikes against Amazon and Fire tablet:

Hmm, I guess I was good to stick with my $250 Cyanogen hacked nook.

- Only 6 gb useable memory (I assume you mean internal storage, I think the nook has 8 GB, but that doesn't matter because...)
- No expandable memory or micro sd card (The nook has a micro SD card slot, I have a 12 or 16 gigger in there (can't remember))
- No camera (not an issue for me)
- No microphone (not an issue for me)
- No GPS (would be nice, but not a dealbreaker for me in a tablet)
- No Bluetooth (nook has it, but also not an issue for me)
- No 3G (not an issue for me, until the phone companies stop trying to gouge people on 3G plans)
- No Home button (nook has one, or rather, it has a button and you can assign it to different functions in cyanogen)
- No volume button (nook has two, one for up, one for down, but you can also reassign them to other functions if you like)
- No folders (not sure what you mean by this, is there no navigable directory structure? laaaame)
- No Google apps/environment (nook has it)

/ I have a bash shell on my nook, and I can remote into boxes via RDP or VNC, what more could you ask for?

/no video out, I wonder if there's a micro USB to VGA connector, I doubt bluetooth is fast enough to drive an external display of any sort.

I'm just happy Samsung/Sprint FINALLY updated my epic to Gingerbread

wake me when it runs Android Zebra Testicle Sauce

Stock with only a bit of sideloading and I freaking love my Kindle Fire. I can't wait until Cyanogenmod gets a stable ICS rom for the Kindle Fire.

Yes, it is a farking tablet. It's a tablet I'm actually comfortable spending money on when the price of an iPad is well out of my range. I can read. I can watch stuff. I can browse the web. I can use a terminal. I can play some games (especially with the new OnLive software for it, even if it's not that great). I can keep notes. It is a farking tablet. Just because it's not half a grand and doesn't have a CAMERA doesn't mean it isn't a tablet.

Do I wish it had more storage or a few more physical buttons? Sure. But I'm really pleased with it, despite its flaws.

jbrooks544: $200 for a crap tablet. I'd rather spend a hundred or two more and get something that will actually do what I need.

This.

The Fire is a very nice tablet, when it's kept inside of Amazon's walled garden. Once it's taken out of that content providing area and thrown in to the ring against the others it, like the Nook Color, get unceremoniously kerb stomped by the big kids (Asus, Apple, Toshiba, etc).

I'm not saying they're bad tablets, far from it, just that unless you are in the mood for a spot of hacking and that's your prime reason for buying a slate... you're going to be left wondering WTF happened as things with more processing power and gobs of internal flash rocket past you.

/I'd still wager my iPad 2 has more MIPS than a OC'd Nook.
//Faster storage as well as SD Cards are rather slow compared to internal flash memory.
///Would still by a Nook if I wanted to fark around though.

I love my Fire. I bought it to read .pdfs, surf the web, and watch Hulu. It does all of that very well.

Ironclad2: incendi: Phil Moskowitz: I'm holding out for Android nutella cheesecake.

Oh god that sounds delicious

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From http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/nutella--cheesecake/detail.aspx

Ingredients

2 (8 ounce) packages cream cheese, softened
1/2 cup white sugar
1 (13 ounce) jar chocolate hazelnut spread (nutella)
1/4 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 (9 inch) prepared graham cracker crust

Directions

In a large bowl, beat cream cheese and sugar until smooth. Blend in Nutella and vanilla until no streaks remain. pour into crust. Refrigerate for at least 4 hours before serving.

I used to love Nutella. Then I became allergic to Hazelnuts. Thirty five, allergic to nothing, and then BAM Hazelnuts cause me to break out in hives. WTF?

BohemianGraham: This. I have a 32GB class 10 in mine, and only take it out when I need to do an update or something. The microSD slot is a pain in the ass where it is. It and the crappy proprietary USB cables B&N has are the only faults with the Nook.

Are they still doing warranty replacements on broken cables? Because, err, mine broke :P

/I have a 1 GB SD Card that I use for updates. Though I'm using clockwork so I was able to update Cyanogen in place without using the SD card.

/you can't brick a nook easily because it's always set to boot from the micro SD card if it's present.

BohemianGraham:
Do you really need all those MIPS

Yes actually I do need those MIPS, although why I'd play the worlds worst version of Scorched Earth I'm not sure. I tend to have a lot of crap in the background that needs to keep plodding along.

I'd wager even your class 10 card would burn if you threw a lot of simultaneous I/O at it, it's just not really designed for that use case. Pulling movies & stuff is more what it was for.

People said the same to me about the Netpliance I-Opener. Had one, farked around with it for a while, cut a hole in the back for a Orb cooler the usual tom foolery. Amazing the shiat I can get redirected via a friend in Florida. Hell, even managed to get a Del Taco code thingie when I was playing Star Trek: Online... think my account is the only UK one to have it. They get kinder eggs in return. It's all good :)

BohemianGraham:
You didn't read all of my post obviously, and only cherry picked certain points.

I responded to the salient points. You wonder ed if I actually needed the MIPS of my iPad (2nd gen, 32GB, 3G) which I do. I pointed out that even a Class 10 card would struggle to take the I/O hammering of internal flash memory, I did attend to allude that the slowness of SD cards compared to internal storage is why a lot of people find their phones running in to a brick wall.

You suggested that I have Angry Birds on my slate, I'd rather have something that didn't mangle trajectories. Although I admit it's a very cute game with a catchy theme.

I then pointed out that despite its American only availability I don't have an issue getting stuff from the states and used my ancient Netpliance thing as an example of that.

I'd also point out that I have no problems typing on my larger screen, I do however hate using it for endurance typing. Such as long ass posts on fark.
U jelly?

almandot: I'm just happy Samsung/Sprint FINALLY updated my epic to Gingerbread

THIS.

I hate my phone. It's an expensive paperweight. I hate you Epic and I hate you Sprint.