I'm OK with this.

My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

I dream of getting myself on TV with the tagline for my profession as "Comedian/Masturbator"

TheYeti: TimeWaste: My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

This.

I see stay-at-home Dad in my future.

It's already agreed in our household. She's worked her ass off for her Master's, and makes twice as I do. Me, I could take or leave my job and never care less.

We're not trying to have a kid, but when it happens... ahhhh. Pajamas.

At least hes consistant at not being funny.

I will still be able to slap her around though, right?

My wife has her Master's, works in a female dominated field, and has potential greater long term earnings potential, though I make more than her right now.

That is until I get my Master's also.

BurnShrike: I dream of getting myself on TV with the tagline for my profession as "Comedian/Masturbator"

He has achieved something that makes all of Fark jealous.

ArkAngel: I agree that it is happening, but I disagree with him saying that girls are the underdogs

In the entertainment industry, how they are portrayed by the media, they still are to a degree. I mean, we just came out of ten years of "Glorifying the Bimbo" backlash against the "Grrl Power" of the 1990s. Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson being held up as ideals. Little girls being taught they should grow up to be "the Girls Next Door"/a rich man's concubines. (I actually saw this, a woman telling Hugh Hefner's concubines that her four year old daughter wanted to grow up to be "just like you!")

And don't get me started on the sexist crapfest that is "Sex in the City." It like someone read an issue of Cosmo and thought, "This what American women are really like!"

And then there is the issue of the rights women have over their own body being eroded by state and federal government. And when putting up a female nominee for president, the GOP picks Sarah Palin, and more recently Michele Bachman. If that isn't he GOP flipping American women off, I don't know what is.

Yes, women have and are making massive strides forward, but it still is a man's world we live in.

That coward David Lopan: I will still be able to slap her around though, right?

This is why gender equality is largely just a social illusion, although certainly not a bad one. The moment society collapses, women go back to being currency. If you don't believe that, just look at the state of women's rights in almost any underdeveloped country.

And it's not just a matter of civil liberties. CNN did a big thing a month or so about how little girls much of the world (mostly the shiatty parts) have far less access to food, medical care and education, leading to significantly higher mortality rates.

KiplingKat872: we just came out of ten years of "Glorifying the Bimbo"

I must have missed the part where it ended.

BurnShrike: I dream of getting myself on TV with the tagline for my profession as "Comedian/Masturbator"

After years of practice I believe that I am half ready.

/If only I were funny.

TheYeti: TimeWaste: My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

This.

I see stay-at-home Dad in my future.

I see cheat-at-work mom in your future, as well.

TimeWaste: TheYeti: TimeWaste: My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

This.

I see stay-at-home Dad in my future.

It's already agreed in our household. She's worked her ass off for her Master's, and makes twice as I do. Me, I could take or leave my job and never care less.

We're not trying to have a kid, but when it happens... ahhhh. Pajamas.

I'm a stay-at-home dad right now-- have been for the past 6 years.

It's a way easier job than women would have you think.

ArkAngel: In what way are girls number two? They have higher graduation rates from both high school and college. They also are more likely to participate in student government, charity work, extra-curricular activities (with the exception of sports), and part-time jobs. Single childless females under 30 make more than males in the same demographic. They are less likely to go to jail for the same crimes as a man and get more lenient sentences when they do go.

The girls of today are likely to drive the future because we're failing to address the problems that the boys of today are having.

Which raises the question, why aren't you in the kitchen making me a sammich?

/I keed because I love

CowboyNinjaD: CNN did a big thing a month or so about how little girls much of the world (mostly the shiatty parts) have far less access to food, medical care and education, leading to significantly higher mortality rates.

Also an issue (albeit to a much smaller degree) in the U.S.

Link

farscape
At least hes consistant at not being funny.

eat a bag of dicks

I have a feeling that if this current trend of the media making all men out to be women beating imbeciles there will be a backlash that females will not like one bit.

Wise_Guy: I'm a stay-at-home dad right now-- have been for the past 6 years.

It's a way easier job than women would have you think.


No shiat.

KiplingKat872: Yes, women have and are making massive strides forward, but it still is a man's world we live in.

And then when it's a women's world, we get to do it all over again except the other way.

/nothing is ever equal

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I see cheat-at-work mom in your future, as well.

The entire analogy is utter shash.

Overall, I think it's a good time to have a girl in the 21st century because things are changing, with more opportunities for women. But girls are still the underdog, which means they'll work harder, and everybody loves an underdog.

Sure. But "love" isn't "success." 99% of us are "underdogs", but the underdogs are still beaten in the streets by the muscle of the 1%. Women are still second-rate when it comes to many areas of society. We may "love" underdogs, but we're still marching lockstep to the "overdogs".

What I find appalling is that, in response to this perceived "underdog" status by women, marketing gurus have dumbed down male stereotypes in advertising. Men aren't child-like morons, despite what the current advertising push would have women believe - it's the same idiots who had men believing that women were fragile and incompetent.

The next Steve Jobs will totally be a chick, because girls are No. 2-and No. 2 always wins in America.

Huh?

Apple was a No. 2 company for years, and Apple embodies a lot of what have been defined as feminine traits: an emphasis on intuitive design, intellect, a strong sense of creativity, and that striving to always make the greatest version of something.

None of that is actually true any more. Remember when Apple was a computer company? Yeah, most folks don't - today, Apple makes consumer electronic devices, a hardware wrapper around their true profit center, content. Apple has a near-monopolistic stranglehold on content, engineered in part by pushing handheld devices - music players, phones, and tablets - with severe restrictions on the ownership & consumption of said content.

Traditionally, men are more like Microsoft, where they'll just make a fake version of what that chick made, then beat the sh*t out of her and try to intimidate everybody into using their product.

Yeah. Like mobile operating systems, tablet PCs, music players, etc., etc. Another expression of "what everybody knows", without any clue about the actual story.

Oddly enough, Microsoft is the only big name out there that isn't doing what Louis C.K. just described, because they have government eyes on them for years due to the antitrust suits. Google and Apple, however, are busily stomping on each other - and you - to fill the perceived monopoly vacuum.

Here's a simple response to his foolish utterances - go find out who's using Carrier IQ to track every damn thing you're doing on your mobile devices. Apple? Yep. Google? Yep. Microsoft? Nope.

Louis C.K. has consumed what "everybody knows", with little actual rumination over the details, and believes that he's now uttered something pithy. It's depressing.

Knara: And then when it's a women's world, we get to do it all over again except the other way.

/nothing is ever equal

Agreed that the pendulum keeps swinging. The 1990's was a time when male behavior was socially condemned. I honestly felt sorry for them at points. It was called "backlash" not "equality."

But that does not mean we should stop trying to get it right.

ArkAngel: In what way are girls number two? They have higher graduation rates from both high school and college. They also are more likely to participate in student government, charity work, extra-curricular activities (with the exception of sports), and part-time jobs.

Those numbers are skewed because of the drug and gang problems being largely male oriented. Were large numbers of minority males not pressured into dealing drugs or joining a gang, the male graduation rates would likely equal or exceed female graduation rates.

CowboyNinjaD: That coward David Lopan: I will still be able to slap her around though, right?

This is why gender equality is largely just a social illusion, although certainly not a bad one. The moment society collapses, women go back to being currency. If you don't believe that, just look at the state of women's rights in almost any underdeveloped country.

And it's not just a matter of civil liberties. CNN did a big thing a month or so about how little girls much of the world (mostly the shiatty parts) have far less access to food, medical care and education, leading to significantly higher mortality rates.

While that may be true for underdeveloped countries, I think it would be difficult for women to become "currency" in a country with generations of strong women. Have you ever met women who have suffered from real inequality? Everything they ever learned and were told by society and even their own families was that they were inferior, weak and unimportant. It's horrible. Though I don't think it'd be that easy to bring down women propped up by generations of right's and woman-power.

FormlessOne: Louis C.K. has consumed what "everybody knows", with little actual rumination over the details, and believes that he's now uttered something pithy. It's depressing.

It's hard being you.

He (she) who controls the pussy controls the universe

KiplingKat872: Agreed that the pendulum keeps swinging. The 1990's was a time when male behavior was socially condemned. I honestly felt sorry for them at points. It was called "backlash" not "equality."

But that does not mean we should stop trying to get it right.

Sure, but I say things like that to at least make a token effort at having people realize that "perfect equality" is not attainable

/nor is it probably a sensible goal, even if it were attainable, because the logical conclusion would be that everyone is as good as everyone else at everything

I've never met a woman that could work under a woman...they're always catty, chatty, etc.

Magnanimous_J: Wise_Guy: I'm a stay-at-home dad right now-- have been for the past 6 years.

It's a way easier job than women would have you think.


No shiat.

So is teaching, as long as you don't actually work at it.

Wise_Guy: TimeWaste: TheYeti: TimeWaste: My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

This.

I see stay-at-home Dad in my future.

It's already agreed in our household. She's worked her ass off for her Master's, and makes twice as I do. Me, I could take or leave my job and never care less.

We're not trying to have a kid, but when it happens... ahhhh. Pajamas.

I'm a stay-at-home dad right now-- have been for the past 6 years.

It's a way easier job than women would have you think.

That's the dream. My SO has said a couple times that she wants to be the breadwinner. As long as she comes home to a clean house (she has low standards for that) dinner (i love to cook) and a glass of wine (i'll drink beer all day myself).

Needless to say, I have no problems with this plan.

Knara: /nor is it probably a sensible goal, even if it were attainable, because the logical conclusion would be that everyone is as good as everyone else at everything

Think you are taking that slippery slope rather far. Ethnic and gender equality does not equal individual intellectual or performance equality.

farscape: At least hes consistant at not being funny.

look i know you're all mad bro at Hee Haw being cancelled but dont despair, you've still got Dane Cook

It is basically illegal to be a man now. Thanks feminism!

dogette: Though I don't think it'd be that easy to bring down women propped up by generations of right's and woman-power.

Very few generations. Remember, American women's right to vote isn't even 100 years old yet, and the 1950's were not exactly kind to women in this country.

And then there were programs like this: Link

KiplingKat872: Knara: /nor is it probably a sensible goal, even if it were attainable, because the logical conclusion would be that everyone is as good as everyone else at everything

Think you are taking that slippery slope rather far. Ethnic and gender equality does not equal individual intellectual or performance equality.

You have a much more generous opinion of the ability of social activism to stop on a dime like that.

/mission creep, it happens all the time, even amongst the good intentioned

Knara: You have a much more generous opinion of the ability of social activism to stop on a dime like that than I do.

FTFM

TimeWaste: TheYeti: TimeWaste: My wife is way smarter and harder working than me. If we both represent the majority of our sex, I think it's in the best interest of the world that she rises to the top.

This.

I see stay-at-home Dad in my future.

It's already agreed in our household. She's worked her ass off for her Master's, and makes twice as I do. Me, I could take or leave my job and never care less.

We're not trying to have a kid, but when it happens... ahhhh. Pajamas.


One reason why I'm working so hard right now so my wife can finish up her degree and start bringing home the bucks. We've already discussed this before. I accepted a long time ago that she was going to be more financially successful than I will. So when she's making the bucks, I'm gonna stay at home, hang out with my boys and try to finally work on the writing projects I've been planning for the last 5 years.

In the future, if I do make money, I see me doing voice over work from the house and writing novels in my underwear while she's some high powered executive in charge of a large department.

KiplingKat872: ArkAngel: I agree that it is happening, but I disagree with him saying that girls are the underdogs

In the entertainment industry, how they are portrayed by the media, they still are to a degree. I mean, we just came out of ten years of "Glorifying the Bimbo" backlash against the "Grrl Power" of the 1990s. Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson being held up as ideals. Little girls being taught they should grow up to be "the Girls Next Door"/a rich man's concubines. (I actually saw this, a woman telling Hugh Hefner's concubines that her four year old daughter wanted to grow up to be "just like you!")

And don't get me started on the sexist crapfest that is "Sex in the City." It like someone read an issue of Cosmo and thought, "This what American women are really like!"

And then there is the issue of the rights women have over their own body being eroded by state and federal government. And when putting up a female nominee for president, the GOP picks Sarah Palin, and more recently Michele Bachman. If that isn't he GOP flipping American women off, I don't know what is.

Yes, women have and are making massive strides forward, but it still is a man's world we live in.


If that's a description of a man's world, then men didn't invent it.

You think men care if Sex and the City had never existed? So don't tell me it's a "man's world" that foisted that crap on us.

Same for Paris Hilton and Jessica Simpson. Men don't watch that shiat. And no man ever said those two were ideals of any sort.

The GOP token women are awful, but how are they different from their male candidates?

Don't call that a "man's" world, because men don't gain anything from it. Those examples are symptomatic of an Idiocracy, and it sucks for both women and men.