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2011-12-07 08:42:23 AM
TFA would have benefitted from the presence of pics.
 
2011-12-07 09:00:40 AM
namegoeshere: TFA would have benefitted from the presence of pics.

TFA has pics right below the headline.
 
2011-12-07 09:09:04 AM
They already alter models so much, it seems like this was the next logical step.
 
2011-12-07 10:33:18 AM
So, is this worth a bookmark?
 
2011-12-07 11:16:13 AM
Perfect?
 
2011-12-07 11:16:46 AM
Sybarite: They already alter models so much, it seems like this was the next logical step.

Exactly. Take a real model and photoshop her into a CG monstrosity, or just create a CG monstrosity from scratch.
 
2011-12-07 11:17:22 AM
Sybarite: They already alter models so much, it seems like this was the next logical step.

Exactly. No need to airbrush a virtual model. And you only pay once for software.
 
2011-12-07 11:18:54 AM
This seems super useful.

Edit your account profile to include your own size & dimensions. Then the model takes on your body shape. That would make this sort of thing incredibly helpful.
 
2011-12-07 11:20:16 AM
GooberMcFly: namegoeshere: TFA would have benefitted from the presence of pics.

TFA has pics right below the headline.


Same problem as namegoeshere, no pics displaying.
 
2011-12-07 11:20:16 AM
If they can make virtual models, then make them size-selectable. See what something really looks like on someone your size.

I get the feeling some retailers will not do this, though.
 
N7
2011-12-07 11:21:23 AM
"It is regrettable if we have led anyone to believe that the virtual mannequins should be real bodies. This is incorrect and has never been our intention. We will continue to discuss internally how we can be clearer about this in the information towards our customers."

I've heard some companies hire people to model their clothes, in order to show what said clothes might actually look like on the human body. Maybe try that?

Frankly, all something like this does is make me suspect that their clothes are designed to look best on mannequins, and that any real person who tries to wear them will look like shiat.
 
2011-12-07 11:21:39 AM
Does article doesn't actually state wether or not the models are actually CG models or just an elaborate photoshop. I want to believe that they're CG but then I don't see how they would actually get the clothes on them (and make it look good).
 
2011-12-07 11:21:46 AM
www.cinemovies.fr

Approves.
 
2011-12-07 11:22:10 AM
Mannequins are creepy.
 
2011-12-07 11:23:19 AM
No wonder the pictures are rafting down the middle of the uncanny valley with a week of camping gear and supplies, that method sounds pretty retarded.
 
2011-12-07 11:23:30 AM
N7: Frankly, all something like this does is make me suspect that their clothes are designed to look best on mannequins, and that any real person who tries to wear them will look like shiat.

That's actually why I stopped shopping at Aeropostale & Fitch a long time ago.

/I sounded fat back then
//I got better
 
2011-12-07 11:23:35 AM
dl.dropbox.com

For the browser impaired.
 
2011-12-07 11:23:39 AM
LasersHurt: If they can make virtual models, then make them size-selectable. See what something really looks like on someone your size.

I get the feeling some retailers will not do this, though.


Not that I'm condoning it, but some retailers want to maintain an image of exclusivity, and letting every Fatty McFatass wear their clothing is a good way for the brand to lose its appeal.
 
2011-12-07 11:23:44 AM
Odd Bird: GooberMcFly: namegoeshere: TFA would have benefitted from the presence of pics.

TFA has pics right below the headline.

Same problem as namegoeshere, no pics displaying.


=============

Same here, no picks
 
2011-12-07 11:23:56 AM
How long before "virtual" actors for tv and movies? Never age, od, or want more money . Win win for the studios. Not sure how live appearances will be handled. Perhaps search for real people who look like the stars, then "get rid" of them when they are no longer needed, start complaining, or get old.
 
N7
2011-12-07 11:24:55 AM
flyinghouse99: Does article doesn't actually state wether or not the models are actually CG models or just an elaborate photoshop. I want to believe that they're CG but then I don't see how they would actually get the clothes on them (and make it look good).

FTA:

"It's not a real body; it is completely virtual and made by the computer," H&M press officer Hacan Andersson told Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet in an article questioning the company's picture-perfect online models.

In the Dec. 4 article, translated into English by U.S. celebrity website Jezebel, Andersson explained the company's approach.

"We take pictures of the clothes on a doll that stands in the shop, and then create the human appearance with a program on [a] computer," he said.
 
2011-12-07 11:26:00 AM
LasersHurt: If they can make virtual models, then make them size-selectable. See what something really looks like on someone your size.

I get the feeling some retailers will not do this, though.


That would be helpful. Most models are lanky which is not me at all(40 pounds heavy, but somewhat toned). Sometimes I like to go to a store and play "Now image me wearing that" They probably wonder why I'm always chuckling a little to myself.
 
2011-12-07 11:26:08 AM
pktloss: Edit your account profile to include your own size & dimensions. Then the model takes on your body shape. That would make this sort of thing incredibly helpful.

Done...

houseofbodybuilding.com
 
2011-12-07 11:27:21 AM
Rip Dashrock: How long before "virtual" actors for tv and movies? Never age, od, or want more money . Win win for the studios. Not sure how live appearances will be handled. Perhaps search for real people who look like the stars, then "get rid" of them when they are no longer needed, start complaining, or get old.

Holly would, if she could
 
2011-12-07 11:27:24 AM
Rip Dashrock: How long before "virtual" actors for tv and movies? Never age, od, or want more money .

Quite a while. Making virtual models look good in photos is several orders of magnitude easier than making them look good while walking and talking. There's a reason why even the best computer animations still have giant eyes.
 
2011-12-07 11:30:14 AM
StoneColdAtheist: pktloss: Edit your account profile to include your own size & dimensions. Then the model takes on your body shape. That would make this sort of thing incredibly helpful.

Done...

[houseofbodybuilding.com image 362x336]


i157.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-07 11:31:21 AM
"It is regrettable if we have led anyone to believe that the virtual mannequins should be real bodies. "

I can no more believe someone actually said this than I can believe someone actually thinks this is true.
 
2011-12-07 11:33:58 AM
pktloss: This seems super useful.

Edit your account profile to include your own size & dimensions. Then the model takes on your body shape. That would make this sort of thing incredibly helpful.


Lands End used to have this - My Virtual Model, or something like that. It was intended to show you how their clothes would look on your figure, and I think I still have the model it created of me saved somewhere. However, they not only got rid of that option, but also have been tinkering with their sizes, so there's no telling now how a small or medium will fit. And the Lands End Canvas clothes just don't fit at all.
 
2011-12-07 11:35:57 AM
Rip Dashrock: How long before "virtual" actors for tv and movies? Never age, od, or want more money . Win win for the studios. Not sure how live appearances will be handled. Perhaps search for real people who look like the stars, then "get rid" of them when they are no longer needed, start complaining, or get old.

img2-3.timeinc.net

Approves.
 
2011-12-07 11:39:05 AM
Zik-Zak: StoneColdAtheist: pktloss: Edit your account profile to include your own size & dimensions. Then the model takes on your body shape. That would make this sort of thing incredibly helpful.

Done...

[fatchicksinbikinis.jpg]

[whywouldyoudothat.jpg]


Because one of those models is my SiL. Hey, my brother likes fat chicks...what can I say?
 
2011-12-07 11:40:00 AM
resources1.news.com.au
We're getting closer and closer, folks...
 
2011-12-07 11:41:52 AM
"This illustrates very well the sky-high aesthetic demands placed on the female body," spokesman Helle Vaagland said. "The demands are so great that H&M, among the poor photo models, cannot find someone with both body and face that can sell their bikinis."

No matter WHAT is done concerning female models, feminists will complain that evil men are causing problems.

If actual models are used, and they are too skinny, we are causing eating disorders...because women have to starve if they see those images, and have no will of their own, I guess.

If actual models are used, and their bodies are too attractive, they complain that the focus is on the bodies, not the clothes.

So if the bodies are standardized so that the focus is on the differences in the clothes, men are "creating the perfect woman" that women can't live up to. And disparaging women since they "can't find someone good enough"

What a load of shiat. Evidently attractive women can never be displayed in any way, shape or form. We should require the burka for attractive women ("real" women are exempted), then feminists would be happy...right?
 
2011-12-07 11:46:36 AM
cantsleep: Mannequins are creepy.

But they never say no.
 
2011-12-07 11:47:22 AM
I've always wondered why this is such a huge issue in the "woman's" world, but no body gets their panties in a wad over how they portray men. Because all of us have six pack abs and are 6' tall.

/not six feet tall
// more like a tripod
 
2011-12-07 11:49:32 AM
Christian Bale: Evidently attractive women can never be displayed in any way, shape or form. We should require the burka for attractive women ("real" women are exempted), then feminists would be happy...right?

No, feminists will never be happy about anything for any reason. Once they are happy about something, they cease to be feminists, I think.
 
2011-12-07 11:51:48 AM
Virtual models would be a great way to sell virtual clothes.
 
N7
2011-12-07 11:52:52 AM
Christian Bale: "This illustrates very well the sky-high aesthetic demands placed on the female body," spokesman Helle Vaagland said. "The demands are so great that H&M, among the poor photo models, cannot find someone with both body and face that can sell their bikinis."

No matter WHAT is done concerning female models, feminists will complain that evil men are causing problems.

If actual models are used, and they are too skinny, we are causing eating disorders...because women have to starve if they see those images, and have no will of their own, I guess.

If actual models are used, and their bodies are too attractive, they complain that the focus is on the bodies, not the clothes.

So if the bodies are standardized so that the focus is on the differences in the clothes, men are "creating the perfect woman" that women can't live up to. And disparaging women since they "can't find someone good enough"

What a load of shiat. Evidently attractive women can never be displayed in any way, shape or form. We should require the burka for attractive women ("real" women are exempted), then feminists would be happy...right?


No, the problem is that there are a lot of attractive women out there, but the fashion industry tends to push one standard type of "attractive" body, one that apparently often requires photoshopping to get to the ideal state. Now the argument that usually comes after this is that the fashion industry doesn't have a lot of eeeeeevil heterosexual men in it, which alone should tell you that it isn't about blaming eeeeeevil men for the world's problems. Thin models are popular not because of men finding it sexy, but because they basically act like human hangers--they show off clothes without that crazy ol' human body getting in the way. That's kind of nuts.
 
2011-12-07 11:54:08 AM
At least they look better than my Wii characters. Those take on the body shape for the size you enter. Scary.
 
2011-12-07 11:54:11 AM
The Jinxians take umbrage with these ideals.....

/obscure
 
2011-12-07 11:56:30 AM
once again the patriarchal male hegemony disempowers us for no greater crime than dipping jelly donuts in ranch dressing
 
2011-12-07 11:58:56 AM
Occam's Taser: Christian Bale: Evidently attractive women can never be displayed in any way, shape or form. We should require the burka for attractive women ("real" women are exempted), then feminists would be happy...right?

No, feminists will never be happy about anything for any reason. Once they are happy about something, they cease to be feminists, I think.


Area Man Passionate Defender Attacker Of What He Imagines Constitution Feminism To Be
 
2011-12-07 12:02:29 PM
rico567: The Jinxians take umbrage with these ideals.....

/obscure


Wunderland natives tell them to STFU.
 
2011-12-07 12:03:42 PM
Ok folks, no Princess Madeline pictures yet, why?
 
2011-12-07 12:04:02 PM
i44.tinypic.com
 
2011-12-07 12:06:38 PM
The perfect swimsuits for your next vacation to the uncanny valley.
 
2011-12-07 12:09:31 PM
Vee-One: [www.cinemovies.fr image 640x430]

Approves.


Is That Looker (new window)?
 
2011-12-07 12:12:54 PM
Foshizl: I've always wondered why this is such a huge issue in the "woman's" world, but no body gets their panties in a wad over how they portray men. Because all of us have six pack abs and are 6' tall.

/not six feet tall
// more like a tripod


Which is interesting, because not so long ago men were just as driven by fashion and ideal male image as women.

Roundheads, anyone?

/tripod, eh?
//how YOU doin'?
 
2011-12-07 12:16:10 PM
I noticed that something was odd right away. The mid sections on those two are exactly the same.

Rip Dashrock: How long before "virtual" actors for tv and movies? Never age, od, or want more money . Win win for the studios. Not sure how live appearances will be handled. Perhaps search for real people who look like the stars, then "get rid" of them when they are no longer needed, start complaining, or get old.

Already here.

Hatsune Miku (new window)

Kagamine Rin & Kagamine Len (new window)

etc.
 
2011-12-07 12:16:53 PM
SweetSilverBlues: Foshizl: I've always wondered why this is such a huge issue in the "woman's" world, but no body gets their panties in a wad over how they portray men. Because all of us have six pack abs and are 6' tall.

/not six feet tall
// more like a tripod

Which is interesting, because not so long ago men were just as driven by fashion and ideal male image as women.

Roundheads, anyone?

Uhh.. they were?
 
2011-12-07 12:30:19 PM
gleman: Vee-One: [www.cinemovies.fr image 640x430]

Approves.

Is That Looker (new window)?


Yep. 'Course, I'd rather have the flashy-gun thingie than the robo commercials.

/ Or Susan Dey. Fist/Angry/god, etc....
 
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