"Merry Christmas, Amelia."

Whoa, where did that dust come from?

I love Matt Smith's Doctor. He's like the perfect mix of Doc Brown, Uncle Martin (My favorite Martian) and Walter Bishop. So absolutely barking mad.

Television people really need to stop using that stupid alarm horn sound effect. It's overused to the point that it's one of those "oh, look, it's that again" things that pulls your mind away from the story and destroys all the magic. Kinda like the Wilhelm scream.

Every time I hear it I get as irrationally stabby as that one guy in every Fark Doctor Who thread does whenever he even thinks about that BBC America Amy Pond title sequence...

Ooh, he's not in one of the parts of the ship that explode first?

Or maybe he's in a control module on the moon, that lets the telepresence operator experience some of the effects of what's happening on the ship?

Kinda sad that I don't get BBC:A anymore...

Last year's Christmas special was very good. This one looks to be very good as well. I love Tennant, but his Christmas specials were lame (not that that's his fault, though).

Oh looky, the TARDIS hears the Doctors call and picks him up.......

/Could happen.
//She(TARDIS) loves the Doctor inside of her.

mekki: "Merry Christmas, Amelia."

Whoa, where did that dust come from?

I love Matt Smith's Doctor. He's like the perfect mix of Doc Brown, Uncle Martin (My favorite Martian) and Walter Bishop. So absolutely barking mad.

Except without the acting ability.

Seriously though, even my wife (a life-long diehard Who fan) saw the trailer for the Christmas episode and said "What rubbish! Moffatt has another thing coming if he thinks I am going to watch yet another WW2 episode full of ripped off ideas, shoddily put together and OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY...I MEAN RORY!! THE BASTARDS!! What shiate!"

No lie, that is word for word, and I got it on video. Classic piece of Mrs.B ranting. Anyway, she has vowed not to watch it again until Moffat and Smith are gone.

/Yes, she is a Brit, in case you couldn't tell.

Balchinian: mekki: "Merry Christmas, Amelia."

Whoa, where did that dust come from?

I love Matt Smith's Doctor. He's like the perfect mix of Doc Brown, Uncle Martin (My favorite Martian) and Walter Bishop. So absolutely barking mad.

Except without the acting ability.

Seriously though, even my wife (a life-long diehard Who fan) saw the trailer for the Christmas episode and said "What rubbish! Moffatt has another thing coming if he thinks I am going to watch yet another WW2 episode full of ripped off ideas, shoddily put together and OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY...I MEAN RORY!! THE BASTARDS!! What shiate!"

No lie, that is word for word, and I got it on video. Classic piece of Mrs.B ranting. Anyway, she has vowed not to watch it again until Moffat and Smith are gone.

/Yes, she is a Brit, in case you couldn't tell.

I like Moffat. I think he's a far superior writer and storyteller than Davies. I just think Tennant is amazing as the Doctor. He had a much more upbeat attitude that I really enjoyed. I don't dislike Matt Smith, I just think Tennant is better.

demonfaerie: Mike Chewbacca: Last year's Christmas special was very good. This one looks to be very good as well. I love Tennant, but his Christmas specials were lame (not that that's his fault, though).

Agreed they were horrible, and they turned him emo.

/Wishes Eccleston got a Christmas special/or another season.

Yeah, me too. But he wanted out, and so out is what he got.

We were watching a trailer for the Darkest Hour and we simultaneously said 'Where's the Doctor?'

Was unaware 'smithereened' was a word... thought the Slitheen were coming back. Thankfully I was wrong.

demonfaerie:
Upbeat? I mean he was at one point in time, then he got all emo and dreading his death. The Doctor doesn't dread death he accepts it and moves on.


Don't you understand? He didn't waaant to Gooooooo...!!!'

That's what you get when you make an ostrich a Time Lord...

demonfaerie: RTD sucks

Hebalo: Mike Chewbacca: I like Moffat. I think he's a far superior writer and storyteller than Davies.

He certainly is. I doubt many would dispute that.

however, thus far, RTD has proven to be a much better Show Runner than Moffat.

I have to say I prefer Moffat and I would put Smith equal to Tennant, I really can't choose between them.

/Moar Sherlock plz

demonfaerie: Mike Chewbacca: Balchinian: mekki: "Merry Christmas, Amelia."

Whoa, where did that dust come from?

I love Matt Smith's Doctor. He's like the perfect mix of Doc Brown, Uncle Martin (My favorite Martian) and Walter Bishop. So absolutely barking mad.

Except without the acting ability.

Seriously though, even my wife (a life-long diehard Who fan) saw the trailer for the Christmas episode and said "What rubbish! Moffatt has another thing coming if he thinks I am going to watch yet another WW2 episode full of ripped off ideas, shoddily put together and OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY...I MEAN RORY!! THE BASTARDS!! What shiate!"

No lie, that is word for word, and I got it on video. Classic piece of Mrs.B ranting. Anyway, she has vowed not to watch it again until Moffat and Smith are gone.

/Yes, she is a Brit, in case you couldn't tell.

I like Moffat. I think he's a far superior writer and storyteller than Davies. I just think Tennant is amazing as the Doctor. He had a much more upbeat attitude that I really enjoyed. I don't dislike Matt Smith, I just think Tennant is better.

Upbeat? I mean he was at one point in time, then he got all emo and dreading his death. The Doctor doesn't dread death he accepts it and moves on.

For the last time, it wasn't death he feared, per se, but the complete loss of his personality. And there's a happy medium between Eccleston's "Hey, I'm dying...see ya!" moment and Tennant's weepy moment. That's the way it should be played.

/not to mention that a few other doctors feared death greatly
//celery?

You know, I've been a Doctor fan for a long time, but I really can't watch the new series anymore.

It's not that it's bad, but it's really overwraught. Okay, fine, we get that the Doctor is now a suffering waif cut off from his people by his own actions, but....well, it doesn't really ring true. I like the Doctor, but I don't like him in the way that Davies and Moffat do where he's some kind of God that, while interesting, is dwarfed by the companions that he chooses to run around with. I like the Doctor as some kind of traveler who isn't well known, or even well-liked. I want the traveler Doctor back who can still be amazed by what he sees, not the 'seen everything' version that acts smug in one instance and annoying the next. And seriously, do we need another Rose running around that some immortal alien can fawn over simply because neither Davies or Moffat can write for an immortal without making him a weepy emo?

I don't hate the show at all, but we're getting the same thing over and over again. The Doctor is no longer a strange traveler in time and space, he's a sad and lonely meddler who can't get over himself and has to attach himself to a new woman each and every regeneration. At this point, it's just Twilight mixed with a few cues from the old series. It's not like we're watching a fan version of a classic show, it's like we're watching really bad fan-fic that somehow got on the air and isn't particularly good.

I'll be blunt: we're watching people who wrote books about the show make the show, and seeing how they just didn't get the show outside of the iconic value of the character. I'm not watching a show, I'm watching wanking material for men who should have grown out of that. I want to see the Doctor be the Doctor, not some deus ex machina for Yet Another Hot British Woman. I want to see Doctor Who. And I'm just not seeing it right now.

Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest.

Girion47: I have to say I prefer Moffat and I would put Smith equal to Tennant, I really can't choose between them.

/Moar Sherlock plz

Three new episodes of Sherlock are already in the can. Just waiting to get on the BBC schedule in 2012.

/both Moffet and Smith are awesome
//last season of Tenant was just too much Tenant

Mike Chewbacca: Balchinian: mekki: "Merry Christmas, Amelia."

Whoa, where did that dust come from?

I love Matt Smith's Doctor. He's like the perfect mix of Doc Brown, Uncle Martin (My favorite Martian) and Walter Bishop. So absolutely barking mad.

Except without the acting ability.

Seriously though, even my wife (a life-long diehard Who fan) saw the trailer for the Christmas episode and said "What rubbish! Moffatt has another thing coming if he thinks I am going to watch yet another WW2 episode full of ripped off ideas, shoddily put together and OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY...I MEAN RORY!! THE BASTARDS!! What shiate!"

No lie, that is word for word, and I got it on video. Classic piece of Mrs.B ranting. Anyway, she has vowed not to watch it again until Moffat and Smith are gone.

/Yes, she is a Brit, in case you couldn't tell.

I like Moffat. I think he's a far superior writer and storyteller than Davies. I just think Tennant is amazing as the Doctor. He had a much more upbeat attitude that I really enjoyed. I don't dislike Matt Smith, I just think Tennant is better.

Agreed on Smith. My gf LOVES him, but it took me a while. It's not so much that he was bad, he just wasn't Tennant.
/Really misses Eccleston though. Wish he would have had a run after the series was back on its feet, some of the earlier episodes were still fumbling around trying to gain their footing. His old soldier/survivalist guilt angle was a great portrayal of the Doctor IMO.

Why would an alien care about Christmas?

ASLAMMMMMM

Tyrone Slothrop: Why would an alien care about Christmas?

He took the last room at the Inn. Link (new window)

SilentStrider: I'd like to thank this thread for perfectly demonstrating why I don't go into Doctor Who threads any more.

Agreed. It's the same reasoning why I avoid thread in the politics tab too.

Loved the trailer and I can't wait to spend Christmas Night watching a crisp torrent of the Christmas Special.

From Wikipedia:

In September 2011 Doctor Who Magazine stated series 7 will air from autumn 2012.[28]

No, no, noooooo. Hopefully, Sherlock and both the UK and the US versions Being Human air earlier in 2012.

Gratuitous Sam Huntington beefcake shot:

Point of clarification:
Just because someone says that they don't like Moffatt does not mean that they like RTD. As it happens I didn't like either, for very different reasons. I just don't want to be thought of as an RTD fan simply because I diss Moffatt.

I would prefer that the producer of Doctor Who wasn't also working on another serial.
The BBCA episodes for the past season, and daily reruns have been cut for time. It shows. I can't decide if the shows suffer from poorer plotting, or bad editing.

Guntram Shatterhand: I like the Doctor, but I don't like him in the way that Davies and Moffat do where he's some kind of God that, while interesting, is dwarfed by the companions that he chooses to run around with. I like the Doctor as some kind of traveler who isn't well known, or even well-liked. I want the traveler Doctor back who can still be amazed by what he sees, not the 'seen everything' version that acts smug in one instance and annoying the next. And seriously, do we need another Rose running around that some immortal alien can fawn over simply because neither Davies or Moffat can write for an immortal without making him a weepy emo?

I don't hate the show at all, but we're getting the same thing over and over again. The Doctor is no longer a strange traveler in time and space, he's a sad and lonely meddler who can't get over himself and has to attach himself to a new woman each and every regeneration. At this point, it's just Twilight mixed with a few cues from the old series. It's not like we're watching a fan version of a classic show, it's like we're watching really bad fan-fic that somehow got on the air and isn't particularly good.

I'll be blunt: we're watching people who wrote books about the show make the show, and seeing how they just didn't get the show outside of the iconic value of the character. I'm not watching a show, I'm watching wanking material for men who should have grown out of that. I want to see the Doctor be the Doctor, not some deus ex machina for Yet Another Hot British Woman. I want to see Doctor Who. And I'm just not seeing it right now.

Sorry, just needed to get that off my chest.

I totally agree with this. In the original series (outside of recurring characters like the Brigadier and various enemies) the Doctor was an unknown through-out the universe. There was one 4th Doctor episode (The Face of Evil) where his image is on a mountain. There may have been others where people knew of him, but not like it is now.

My main biatches since the reboot are:

1. The show is often more about the companions than the Doctor
2. The bastardization of the Cybermen continuity with the stupid alt universe. At least E-space was only used for a handful of episodes.
3. Rose. Like Herpes she never goes away.
4. Dues ex machina endings. Almost all of the first show runner's episodes had them
5. Episodes are short. Even two parters are short compared to the way it used to be.
6. The cell phone thing. It's dumb. It's lazy, and it's a cheap writer's crutch.

mjbok: 3. Rose. Like Herpes she never goes away.

I love you.

Eh, I prefer Moffatt to Davies and Smith to Tennant. I miss Eccleston though. Season 6 demonstrates that Moffatt may do better with fewer stories that are longer in length.

Can't wait for Christmas.

demonfaerie: 1. The show is often more about the companions than the Doctor
2. The bastardization of the Cybermen continuity with the stupid alt universe. At least E-space was only used for a handful of episodes.
3. Rose. Like Herpes she never goes away.
4. Dues ex machina endings. Almost all of the first show runner's episodes had them
5. Episodes are short. Even two parters are short compared to the way it used to be.
6. The cell phone thing. It's dumb. It's lazy, and it's a cheap writer's crutch.

Moffat fixed them for the most part, or at least tried to, except for maybe number 1.

When did he address 2? In the Pandorica episodes it was still alt-verse cybermen. The only appearance of "real" Cybermen was in "Museum" I believe.

3. Thankfully, yes.
4. Also, thankfully yes.
5. Most two parters, but still short.
6. Possibly. The only use of the phones appears to be in the same time/place so it's not quite as pants on head R-worded.

The_Time_Master: mjbok: 3. Rose. Like Herpes she never goes away.

I love you.

I was so happy when Rose opened an episode with a monologue that said something along the lines of "today is the day I die." Was pissed when it didn't happen.

arsonik: /Really misses Eccleston though. Wish he would have had a run after the series was back on its feet, some of the earlier episodes were still fumbling around trying to gain their footing. His old soldier/survivalist guilt angle was a great portrayal of the Doctor IMO.

THIS!

"Nobody dies today!!!"
/yes, there is dust in this room....