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(Bloomberg) Obvious After 540 days, it has been determined that Belgium is approximately two halves of a whole country   (bloomberg.com) divider line 67
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2011-12-06 01:54:07 PM
But how many Rhode Islands is that?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2011-12-06 02:14:12 PM
The job of keeping Belgium intact

Did they ever stop to think maybe the premise behind the supposed need for a government is wrong?
 
2011-12-06 02:17:00 PM
Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.
 
2011-12-06 02:39:01 PM
After 540 days 181 years, it has been determined that Belgium is approximately two halves of a whole country

FTFY Subs
 
2011-12-06 02:45:11 PM
'Sour Apple'

Mmmm Sour Apple

www.studio1909.com
 
2011-12-06 02:46:13 PM
ArkAngel: But how many Rhode Islands is that?

One, actually.
 
2011-12-06 03:49:44 PM
Stupid Flan Ders
 
2011-12-06 04:00:26 PM
Because People in power are Stupid: 'Sour Apple'

Mmmm Sour Apple

[www.studio1909.com image 153x583]


dammit
I have peche and raspberry in my fridge right now.
should probably get some pomme!!
 
2011-12-06 04:03:19 PM
ZAZ: The job of keeping Belgium intact

Did they ever stop to think maybe the premise behind the supposed need for a government is wrong?


It is interesting to watch. I can not imagine the fun we would have here in the US if we had a parliamentary system. Could you imagine the factions in the house trying to form coalitions??

I love when the states complain about the cities. People started talking about kicking chicago out of illinois. PRETTY PLEASE?!!!!

Oh look! we now have casinos and can ignore the farktards downstate!! LOL
 
2011-12-06 04:24:07 PM
Watch your mouth, Subby.
 
2011-12-06 04:25:29 PM
Stupid sexy Flanders!

/Nothin' at all! Nothin' at all!
 
2011-12-06 04:27:29 PM
namatad: I love when the states complain about the cities. People started talking about kicking chicago out of illinois. PRETTY PLEASE?!!!!

Oh look! we now have casinos and can ignore the farktards downstate!! LOL


Truly, you wouldn't be missed.

/downstate farktard
 
2011-12-06 04:29:08 PM
Well, if they were to be split up, let them be split up gloriously.
 
2011-12-06 04:31:39 PM
Oh, Belgium!
 
2011-12-06 04:32:09 PM
dahmers love zombie: Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.


chopit: Watch your mouth, Subby.

Did the headline change, or am I missing something?
 
2011-12-06 04:34:06 PM
Current Resident: Truly, you wouldn't be missed.

/downstate farktard


alas, how soon after the split do the wars begin?
Yugoslavia might have been a made up country, but at least some of the hate was contained.

Chicago is split from Illinois and all of sudden water and air rights become an issue.
NYC leaves NY and where does the water come from ?? LOL

If the EU breaks up and tariffs return, how soon before the next war?

Dont get me started on red states vs blues states.
 
2011-12-06 04:34:08 PM
ZAZ: The job of keeping Belgium intact

Did they ever stop to think maybe the premise behind the supposed need for a government is wrong?


It would seem natural for the French side to go to France and the Dutch side to go to The Netherlands, but Brussels is a large French speaking enclave in the middle of the Dutch bit of the country... so simply splitting it up doesn't solve the problem
 
2011-12-06 04:36:00 PM
Bruxellensis: dahmers love zombie: Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.

chopit: Watch your mouth, Subby.

Did the headline change, or am I missing something?


this knee-biter forgot his towel.
 
2011-12-06 04:42:39 PM
A deal would be followed, possibly later today, by the swearing-in by King Albert II at his Brussels castle

Oh, so they let him out?
 
2011-12-06 04:42:40 PM
New Belgium? I'll toast to New Belgium.

gastrotraveling.com
 
2011-12-06 04:43:47 PM
Doesn't Belgium use the Dutch movie rating system?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-06 04:44:12 PM
The only thing I really hate about Belguim is it brings out the worst beer snobs Fark has to offer, none of whom know what the f they are talking about.

But that's okay, it keeps them away from the Bavarian Doppelbock and the Czech Pilsner.
 
2011-12-06 04:49:30 PM
Pro Zack: Bruxellensis: dahmers love zombie: Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.

chopit: Watch your mouth, Subby.

Did the headline change, or am I missing something?

this knee-biter forgot his towel.


So...I'm missing something, then?
 
2011-12-06 04:52:42 PM
Fark has all kinds of filters for cuss words but the most offensive word in the universe can be posted in a headline for the whole world to read?
 
2011-12-06 04:53:43 PM
Bruxellensis: Pro Zack: Bruxellensis: dahmers love zombie: Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.

chopit: Watch your mouth, Subby.

Did the headline change, or am I missing something?

this knee-biter forgot his towel.

So...I'm missing something, then?


Belgium (HHGTTG)
 
2011-12-06 04:55:32 PM
Bruxellensis: Pro Zack: Bruxellensis: dahmers love zombie: Really? And that offensive word isn't even filtered in HEADLINES?

For shame, modmins. Hoopy froods you are not.

chopit: Watch your mouth, Subby.

Did the headline change, or am I missing something?

this knee-biter forgot his towel.

So...I'm missing something, then?


It's a reference to Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy where the most offensive word in the Universe is declared to be Belgium, which also happens to be a name of a small country on Earth
 
2011-12-06 04:57:28 PM
So, a Dutch guy, a French guy, and a Dutch guy who speaks German walk into a bar....
 
2011-12-06 05:00:09 PM
I lived in Belgium for a year. It was rainy.
 
2011-12-06 05:08:53 PM
540 days of Belgian waffling is finally over.
 
2011-12-06 05:15:23 PM
I am just hoping this does not screw up the system of refunds for house improvements (redoing my kitchen this year ...)

It's divided up federally, and then by community, province, and then city. Typically Belgian!
 
2011-12-06 05:17:07 PM
But aren't they all just...
www.id-wall.com
 
2011-12-06 05:19:37 PM
candybarlab.files.wordpress.com

Sort of like Almond Joy?
 
2011-12-06 05:21:18 PM
Give Wallonia to France, Flanders to the Netherlands, and make Brussels the federal capital of the EU.
 
2011-12-06 05:22:50 PM
ComicBookGuy: I lived in Belgium for a year. It was rainy.

Lived in Luxembourg for a year. It was lovely. Went to Belgium often for the weekend. It was rainy.
 
2011-12-06 05:24:09 PM
namatad: alas, how soon after the split do the wars begin?
Yugoslavia might have been a made up country, but at least some of the hate was contained.


It's been 19 years of a peaceful split between the Czechs and Slovaks.
 
2011-12-06 05:24:09 PM
Let's not call them anything, let's just ignore them.

...

I can't think of any word more derogatory than "Belgian."

...

Miserable, fat belgian bastards!
 
2011-12-06 05:34:46 PM
"Walloons" is a hilarious thing to call any group of people.
 
2011-12-06 05:44:40 PM
olddinosaur: The only thing I really hate about Belguim is it brings out the worst beer snobs Fark has to offer, none of whom know what the f they are talking about.

But that's okay, it keeps them away from the Bavarian Doppelbock and the Czech Pilsner.


Amen. They can have their lambics and all that, I for one prefer my beer not to taste like feet and cheese.
 
2011-12-06 06:05:12 PM
Constant infighting over relatively little power leading to deadlock and a bizarre series of coalitions, which ultimately doesn't really seem to matter, and is kind of a little embarrassing for everyone else.

Congrats Belgium, you're the PTA of governments.

/you damn dutch from the rich side have been picking on my industrially depressed snowflakes! Nu uh, you lazy frenchspeakers are why we have to have a dozen fundraisers every year to pay for lunches and uniforms, pull your own weight! Hey guys, it's all about the kids, let's remember that? (from both sides) SHUT IT!!!!
 
2011-12-06 06:06:31 PM
No love yet for Jacques Brel's "Marika?" ?Entre le tours de Bruges et Ghent..."


olddinosaur: The only thing I really hate about Belguim is it brings out the worst beer snobs Fark has to offer, none of whom know what the f they are talking about.

But that's okay, it keeps them away from the Bavarian Doppelbock and the Czech Pilsner


Belgium makes more different beers than Bavaria, and they drink more, too, so if you can't find something you like there, you are probably SOL. I never really "got" beer snobbery, until I realized is wasn't about quality or taste, but about rareness.. As in, "This is the best beer because you can only find it by swinging a dead cat around your head at midnight while singing '99 bbottles of beer on the wall.'"
 
2011-12-06 06:12:31 PM
Ohh, ale snob vs. lager snob thread! I like it! I'll start - ale is for people who like beer, lager is for people who like to get drunk.
 
2011-12-06 06:14:54 PM
Lord Dimwit: Give Wallonia to France, Flanders to the Netherlands, and make Brussels the federal capital of the EU.

Kind of ignorant to say stuff like this. Flanders has little in common with Holland, nor Wallonia with France. Wallon isn't French. And why would a country "give" itself to other states? Would California "give" itself to Canada because it speaks English, roughly? Christ.

Several things here. First, it's a crisis manufactured by politicians who want more power. Seven governments isn't enough. Second, Brussels is important enough that it'll probably hold Belgium together. Third, the Flemish want to humiliate the francophones for centuries of oppression, much like the Scots hate the English. When my dad went to school, in Leuven, it was still forbidden to speak Dutch. Flemish "independence" is more of an extended "nah nah" aimed at getting full control of the country. Fourth, both Wallonia and Flanders hate Brussels, always have, because it's multicultural and tolerant. Fifth, it's endlessly more complex than this. Belgium is divided so many ways it sometimes looks like mincemeat.

Sixth, I want an Orval.
 
2011-12-06 06:22:01 PM
 
2011-12-06 06:48:34 PM
Stupid Flanders! Fricking Belgians!
 
2011-12-06 07:28:28 PM
pieterh: Lord Dimwit: Give Wallonia to France, Flanders to the Netherlands, and make Brussels the federal capital of the EU.

Kind of ignorant to say stuff like this. Flanders has little in common with Holland, nor Wallonia with France. Wallon isn't French. And why would a country "give" itself to other states? Would California "give" itself to Canada because it speaks English, roughly? Christ.

Several things here. First, it's a crisis manufactured by politicians who want more power. Seven governments isn't enough. Second, Brussels is important enough that it'll probably hold Belgium together. Third, the Flemish want to humiliate the francophones for centuries of oppression, much like the Scots hate the English. When my dad went to school, in Leuven, it was still forbidden to speak Dutch. Flemish "independence" is more of an extended "nah nah" aimed at getting full control of the country. Fourth, both Wallonia and Flanders hate Brussels, always have, because it's multicultural and tolerant. Fifth, it's endlessly more complex than this. Belgium is divided so many ways it sometimes looks like mincemeat.

Sixth, I want an Orval.


It wasn't said out of ignorance. That was a suggested partition plan by the Belgians themselves a few years ago. Several people support it because they think that neither Flanders nor Wallonia would be able to survive as independent states, whereas Brussels - especially as a "federal capital of the EU" - would be able to survive.

Of course, I don't live in Belgium, I'm not Belgian, and I speak French and not Flemish, so I don't really have much of a horse in the race.
 
TWX
2011-12-06 07:30:33 PM
I'm surprised that all of those small-government people here aren't salivating at the effectiveness of destroying government this type of parlimentary system has.

Sure, the fate and popularity of elected officials in the executive branch and the legislative branch are related, but they're not one in the same. If Congress here somehow had no majority party and if minority parties couldn't agree to elect a speaker and to begin a session, there'd still be a President to oversee his departments. He could possibly even issue executive orders to keep at least the status quo running until a legislative body would come to exist, though ultimately if that legislative body ever did coalesce and challenge his orders it'd get interesting.
 
2011-12-06 07:32:18 PM
sinanju: It would seem natural for the French side to go to France and the Dutch side to go to The Netherlands, but Brussels is a large French speaking enclave in the middle of the Dutch bit of the country... so simply splitting it up doesn't solve the problem

meh
if the french dont like living with the dutch, they can leave brussels for the wonderful world of what the fark to the south.

12349876: It's been 19 years of a peaceful split between the Czechs and Slovaks.

probably because they were both xian?
but yah
funny the crap which gets fought over
language and religion? LOL
 
2011-12-06 07:37:32 PM
TFA merely reinforces the following:

"The State is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."

- Frederic Bastiat, 1848

/change some languages, inferior chocolates, different beer, you got us, right?
 
2011-12-06 07:38:37 PM
Current Resident: namatad: I love when the states complain about the cities. People started talking about kicking chicago out of illinois. PRETTY PLEASE?!!!!

Oh look! we now have casinos and can ignore the farktards downstate!! LOL

Truly, you wouldn't be missed.

/downstate farktard


THIS.
 
2011-12-06 07:43:01 PM
12349876: namatad: alas, how soon after the split do the wars begin?
Yugoslavia might have been a made up country, but at least some of the hate was contained.

It's been 19 years of a peaceful split between the Czechs and Slovaks.


Unless there's some sort of humor here I'm missing, how'd you do in geography & history in school, Tosh?
 
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