Just when I was feeling better, along comes another "Beatles are the best thing to happen to ears since Q-tips" thread.

ToxicMunkee: Will we ever be able to stop sucking Beatles dick?

you know something? YOU'RE ALL RIGHT!

NewportBarGuy: How many billions more people are in the world buying records now versus 50 years ago?

There you go.

Came to say this.

NewportBarGuy: How many billions more people are in the world buying records now versus 50 years ago?

There you go.

Good point and there's also that Candle In The Wind '97 also sold more copies than any Beatles single, but it was just a flash in the pan whose popularity was spurred by a recent even that people were still emotional about.

Wow. People have different musical taste . . . I'm shocked.

Subby sounds old. And oniony.

I just asked my dad, and he said he didn't buy a single song off of iTunes in the 60's. I guess they didn't like music then as much as we do now.

It's somehow cool to attack the Beatles now?

Nearly every band since the 60s has pretty much just copied them. At least when they made their music, it was fresh.

The Beatles were the first and last interesting rock and roll act.

I'd heard of the name Ke$sha before but could not put a song to the name so I went to you tube to listen to 'Tic-Tok'

You're telling me people paid money to buy this song? Really? I can't believe people would listen to this even if they were PAID.

Great Gnu that sucked. It's abysmal.

cman: Hey old people, your music is terrible. Get off your high horse.

I told my mom that about Frank Sinatra, she snarled at me.

ToxicMunkee: Will we ever be able to stop sucking Beatles dick?

The Beatles broke up 43 years ago and their music still endures. With the exception of Streisand, none of the people on the left on that page will be remembered in 43 years.

Rincewind53: When the Baby Boomers finally toddle off to the Great Nursing Home in the Sky. Then the Beatles will take their rightful place in history; as a pretty good band..

As a guy born toward the end of the whole Boomer thing, I completely agree. I'm sick of having to explain to people that as a 56 year old music lover it isn't mandatory that I consider the Beatles to be gods.

/Hendrix, however...

The Onion is prophetic: I wasn't aware that the Beatles sold a large number of singles. I had thought their full albums were the big sellers.

Same with Led Zep. (Still the best band evar, IMHO.)

Also, it says how many had a Number 1 single. How many #2-10?

As for Glee: It's easy to have most songs chart when you're just covering other people's songs that have charted.

BTW, am I the only one who didn't read the text the first time through? "No, yes, yes, yes, no, yes, God yes, bathe her and bring her to my room... oh, the rest just ruin it."

Looks like everything bad started with Barbra Streisand

Kids these days.... there's more of them.

Top100 LP's of 00's in the world (new window)

1 Beatles - 1
Apple - 2000 - 31 million copies
2 Norah Jones - Come Away With Me
Blue Note - 2002 - 22 million copies
3 Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
Aftermath / Interscope - 2000 - 22 million copies
4 Eminem - The Eminem Show
Aftermath / Interscope - 2002 - 20 million copies
5 Britney Spears - Oops!...I Did It Again
Jive - 2000 - 20 million copies
6 Santana - Supernatural
Arista - 1999 - 19 million copies
7 Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory
Warner Bros. - 2000 - 18 million copies
8 Avril Lavigne - Let Go
Arista - 2002 - 16 million copies
9 Celine Dion - All The Way...A Decade Of Song
550 Music / Epic - 1999 - 15 million copies
10 'N Sync - No Strings Attached
Jive - 2000 - 15 million copies
/0. I'm such a rebel

NetOwl: It's somehow cool to attack the Beatles now?

Nearly every band since the 60s has pretty much just copied them. At least when they made their music, it was fresh.

The Beatles were the first and last interesting rock and roll act.

Yep, completely fresh. They weren't taking anything that had already been done by someone else, unless that somebody was Buddy Holly, Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, the Everly Brothers, or a slew of soul musicians. And all those 60s bands copied them! The Monkees, the Turtles, and any number of other VERY memorable bands. Pretty much the only bands who DIDN'T copy them were the Doors, the Rolling Stones, the Who, Bob Dylan, the Velvet Underground, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd...

Here's the thing: it's not so much that it's cool to attack them. It's just that people like YOU act like they are the end-all be-all of rock n roll music, and it's just not the truth. They had some great tunes, without a doubt. But they're a drop in the bucket, and people act like they're gods. Honestly, if you want to get right down to who REALLY changed the face of music, I would personally go with Chuck Berry. I think he was someone who ACTUALLY did things no one else had done, and although his music (like ALL music) was derivative of what came before it, it took a pretty goddamned big step forward. Him and the Ramones.

/That's right, I went there.
//Used a lot of CAPS too.
///Cruise control

ToxicMunkee: Will we ever be able to stop sucking Beatles dick?

They were an amazingly prolific group of writers and performers. Kinda special.

Harry_Seldon: They were an amazingly prolific group of writers and performers. Kinda special.

That and they influenced pretty much every form of rock and roll not only in their time, but after. And they are still the best rock band ever.

The Onion is prophetic: I wasn't aware that the Beatles sold a large number of singles. I had thought their full albums were the big sellers.

You know, back when an album had a whole slew of decent songs and not just one or two that were made for commercialism.

Meh, the Beatles were as commercial as anyone. Just because its a generation removed from us doesn't mean they weren't a pop music band.

Fair_Poopsmith: Okay, so out of curiosity, I checked out Ke$ha. You know what? Not terrible.

The Beatles are probably my favorite artists, but it's kinda apples and oranges. Listening to a few Ke$ha songs, that's probably some of the best "that kind of music" I've heard. If you don't like her, chances are you probably don't like that genre of music. If you don't like her, but you DO like that genre of pop, I'd be genuinely curious to hear some examples of better quality music.

"I'm more concerned by how someone like Ke$ha can so blatantly copy Uffie."

e-christ: I would personally go with Chuck Berry

We all know where Chuck Berry got his ideas.

The Onion is prophetic: I wasn't aware that the Beatles sold a large number of singles. I had thought their full albums were the big sellers.

You know, back when an album had a whole slew of decent songs and not just one or two that were made for commercialism.

oh yeah? when would that be, exactly?
A full album of decent songs was the exception "back when" -
need I remind you of "octopus' garden" or "yellow submarine"?????
Or their horrendous versions of "Anna" or "Mr. Moonlight"?

Furthermore - records were at least as commercial in the past (if not more so) - when there was a giant record company to feed. Who cares if you've got one hit - load it up with filler and sell it to the kids. At least now artists can release records on their own without having to pay off (or placate) a bloated record company bureaucracy. It's going to be rare that a band gets as big as the Beatles these days, sure - but we at least have more to choose from.

As to the assertion that every band alive today has copied from the Beatles - yes, sure, of course they have, solely by being alive. You can't help be influenced by what you hear, good or bad. Now - would music be different today if the Beatles didn't exist? I say maybe, but not by much. People would have still made music. The post-war restlessness in Britain that gave rise to the Beatles sound (and culture) wasn't affecting just those four (to six) guys - it affected everyone. Popular music would have happily gone along its merry way with or without the damn Beatles. To opine otherwise is simply ridiculous. (I'd say utter bullshirt but I'm trying to keep a tiny bit of decency her. I like you guys. )

Next - I'm not sure what that list above proves (the one including the Beatles, Norah Jones, Eminem, Britney, Linkin Park, N'Sync, etc) other than the Beatles in the 2000's remained at the top of a heap of interchangeable aural dung that will fade into obscurity (as one earlier poster pointed out) as the boomers begin to die off and their massive trailing wake of disposable income fueled pop-culture becomes no more than a quiet ripple.

Music will still exist, however, and it will go forward and sideways and even backwards as the availability of older recordings becomes universal and free. That should be obvious to anyone who's walked into a record store in the past ten years, or has turned on a college radio station (RIP KUSF). We're no longer tied to a linear progression of pop music (that never really existed in the first place, really), and my bet is that some of the best music is still to come. (with the exception of that irritating twee ukulele fad)

And finally, after interviewing some half-dozen folks of the boomer generation who admittedly came of age or were drafted before the summer of love, they universally (all five of them) agreed that at the time, the Beatles were what you listened to if A) you were a girl or B)wanted to impress some girl. Otherwise it was the Stones or the Kinks.

I have nothing further to add your honor. The prosecution rests due to fatigue and alcoholic stupor.

(parenthetically yours, gb)

e-christ: I would personally go with Chuck Berry. I think he was someone who ACTUALLY did things no one else had done, and although his music (like ALL music) was derivative of what came before it, it took a pretty goddamned big step forward. Him and the Ramones.



well.. now I wish I'd have refreshed before posting.
And that I had refreshed before posting.

gunther_bumpass: Next - I'm not sure what that list above proves

It proves that I'm superior because i don't "own" any of top100 LP's of the 00's

LewDux: gunther_bumpass: Next - I'm not sure what that list above proves

It proves that I'm superior because i don't "own" any of top100 LP's of the 00's

Can't argue with that.
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Did you see Sanford and Son last night?

This fat dead Hawaiian has sold more records worldwide than Madonna, Britney, and Christina combined together Link (new window)

WhyteRaven74: Harry_Seldon: They were an amazingly prolific group of writers and performers. Kinda special.

That and they influenced pretty much every form of rock and roll not only in their time, but after. And they are still the best rock band ever.

I'm sorry - are we talking about The Kinks? Because if we aren't, then "best rock band ever" should not be used.

gunther_bumpass: Otherwise it was the Stones or the Kinks.

galactus5000: WhyteRaven74: Harry_Seldon: They were an amazingly prolific group of writers and performers. Kinda special.
That and they influenced pretty much every form of rock and roll not only in their time, but after. And they are still the best rock band ever.

I'm sorry - are we talking about The Kinks? Because if we aren't, then "best rock band ever" should not be used.

BARG! I was sitting here trying to think of great 60s bands that weren't anything like the Beatles, and completely forgot about the Kinks! For shame...

gunther_bumpass: LewDux: gunther_bumpass: Next - I'm not sure what that list above proves

It proves that I'm superior because i don't "own" any of top100 LP's of the 00's

Can't argue with that.
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Did you see Sanford and Son last night?

1. I don't like British folk rock
2. I don't watch TV unless older movie or interesting sport competition is on
3. WIKIPEDIA FOUND SOMEWHAT CUTE PERSON TO ASK FOR MONEY

The Beatles wrote some great music but it was George Martin who turned the Beatles into the sonic pioneers they became.