This farkin' guy.

"If we're going to cut taxes, we have to pay for it by cutting taxes."

Not intended to be a factual rational statement.

So how exactly are we going to pay for the Bush tax cut extension?

Unicorn tax?

Marcus Aurelius: So how exactly are we going to pay for the Bush tax cut extension?

Unicorn tax?

By extending the payroll tax cut. Duh.

pudding7: Marcus Aurelius: So how exactly are we going to pay for the Bush tax cut extension?

Unicorn tax?

By extending the payroll tax cut. Duh.

But where's your third tax cut? You need three rights to make a left.

Everybody knows that.

This is exactly the obstruction I want.

It's a deal - we'll extend well over 90% of the Bush tax cuts just as soon as you've signed for the payroll taxes.

Sen. Jon Kyl will only vote to extend the payroll tax cut if Democrats agree to extend the Bush tax cuts will happily vote to fark the poor and middle class if the rich and very rich aren't coddled and favored for all eternity.

FTFTruth

AdolfOliverPanties: Sen. Jon Kyl will only vote to extend the payroll tax cut if Democrats agree to extend the Bush tax cuts will happily vote to fark the poor and middle class if the rich and very rich aren't coddled and favored for all eternity.

FTFTruth

The rich and very rich bought the honourable Senator Kyl fair and square. They even filed the receipts with their taxes.

John Kyl is a hero, looking out for America's most repressed and reviled minority: The rich.

You poor people are anti-richist bigots. How dare you treat a minority this way. In MY America, even the smallest minority - say, people making over 5 million dollars a year - deserve rights!

I love when Republicans show their true colors. I also love when they complain about the 2000 page tax code and run campaigns based on simplifying it.

It is only that farking big because politicians were lobbied and heavily paid to write additions to the code to get the loopholes and exceptions for wealthy interests. They really have no right to complain about it when they were the motherfarkers who made it that big in the first place.

Osomatic: John Kyl is a hero, looking out for America's most repressed and reviled minority: The rich.

You poor people are anti-richist bigots. How dare you treat a minority this way. In MY America, even the smallest minority - say, people making over 5 million dollars a year - deserve rights!

Gee, not that you put it that way, you're right. It must really suck to have a net worth of nine figures. Imagine all the servants and underlings vying for your attention and licking your boots all day. Soooo boring. And then there's the mooring and dry dock fees for a 200+ foot yacht that Larry Ellison sneers at every time the bastard sees it.

It has to be rough.

Marcus Aurelius: AdolfOliverPanties: Sen. Jon Kyl will only vote to extend the payroll tax cut if Democrats agree to extend the Bush tax cuts will happily vote to fark the poor and middle class if the rich and very rich aren't coddled and favored for all eternity.

FTFTruth

The rich and very rich bought the honourable Senator Kyl fair and square. They even filed the receipts with their taxes.


I'll tell you something. This country is going to the dogs. You know, it used to be when you bought a politician, that son of a biatch stayed bought

Sadly, he will probably win. Oh, maybe not this round, but in the end, the Bush tax rates will become permanent. Why? because the Democrats are terrified of being called tax raisers. And all the GOP has to do is tie an extension of the Bush tax cuts (all of them) to any and all spending bills, and they will win.

So are we basically giving up on the debt forever? Republicans do not seem to be inclined to ever do anything about it.

Fark it. Let 'em both go up.

I love that they fight to the death against letting the tax cuts for the wealthy expire but say in the same breath that we cannot afford to renew the tax cuts for the middle class.

Wealthy? We've got your back to the end.
Middle Class? Well, fark you. We know a huge percentage of you will vote for us even if against your own interests no matter what we do to you, so, yeah, fark off.

Jon Pyles - another constipated asshole from the asshole of America.

CALL HIS BLUFF.

If he plays it, he loses.

FireBreathingLiberal: [t1.gstatic.com image 203x248]

Whoa, no need to sully the name of douches everywhere by grouping Jon Kyl in with them!

*scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

Weaver95: *scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

A very large percentage of Americans will vote for the Republican candidates even if they allow tax increases for the middle class for many reasons, including:
- Obama wants this, so it must be bad for America.
- gays
- guns
- the Democrats hate God
- the Job Creators must not be taxed
- socialism
- they won't believe that the Republicans raised taxes on the middle class as the Republicans will put some spin on it that they will believe instead

The list goes on...

Weaver95: *scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

To be fair, the folks that it appears they're counting think that the Internet is a bunch of tubes, so maybe it appearing there doesn't worry them.

Betting on human stupidity is usually not a bad way to go, but at this point, there has to be a kernel of awareness that they're just giving up on getting some folks' votes. Just throwing their hands up in the air, and hoping that there are enough dumbasses who won't realize that they're voting against their own interests. And again to be fair, that's been the strategy for some time, it's just getting more bald faced...

Weaver95: *scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

I love how you keep thinking that these voters are swayed by logic. Its all appeal to emotion and there is no critical thinking, No concern for continuity. Its all a big game show now and whoever puts on the best display wins. Thats why OWS was important. It was spectacle and spectacle sells.

Weaver95: *scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

If they keep getting away with shiat like this, they don't need to win the Presidency. As long as their wealthy masters are getting paid, they'd might as well let Fartbongo win and take the heat for wrecking the economy and socialism.

Weaver95: *scratches head*

the Republicans do know that next year is a big election year, right? I mean they understand that this shiat will end up on youtube and be used against them in the election cycle...?

I've been thinking that maybe the GOP wants to lose next year because they don't want to be at the helm of an economic train wreck that they helped create and they are having nightmares about it. Why else would all of the more logical candidates be stepping back into the shadows?
What I don't get is that the next pres will probably appoint at least one and possibly two supreme court justices. Why would they risk those appointments? I can't figure out their insane behavior.

Fine - kill the payroll tax cut.

Your move.

The pattern is striking: Direct government spending -- through unemployment benefits, food stamps, work sharing or infrastructure spending -- top the list, giving you more than a dollar's worth of stimulus for a dollar's worth of spending, while cuts to taxes affecting businesses and upper-income individuals -- such as the corporate, dividend, capital gains and alternative minimum taxes -- give you less.

Extend them. Extend the Bush/Obama tax cuts for the middle class. End them for the wealthiest. Spend on infrastructure and energy. Create demand, create jobs, increase revenue, solve the deficit and debt problem. Not the other way around.

This would work, which is why the GOP is dead set against it.

clancifer: So are we basically giving up on the debt forever? Republicans do not seem to be inclined to ever do anything about it.

Exactly. Oh they will do something with it, blame it on the Democrats and an excuse to cut programs that help the working class. They do not want to actually fix the problems. Why do you think Obama signed more pro-gun rights bills into laws than Bush ever did. Why? If you fix the problem you destroy your strawman argument.