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(WTSP) Sad Dead woman's Yahoo email account continues to spam her family members from beyond the grave. Yahoo tells family to send them her death certificate, which they got by Googling her   (wtsp.com) divider line 100
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2011-12-05 03:31:47 PM
This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?
 
2011-12-05 03:37:30 PM
Oh, God, that's tragic-comic. :) :(
 
2011-12-05 03:42:21 PM
RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

I have told my spouse to go to all forums I am a member (including here) to tell all friends, "so long and thanks for the fish".
 
2011-12-05 03:43:53 PM
EnviroDude: RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

I have told my spouse to go to all forums I am a member (including here) to tell all friends, "so long and thanks for the fish".


You've got friends?
 
2011-12-05 03:55:39 PM
She died two years ago, but "they're still trying to get" her death certificate? Also, couldn't they just set up an auto-delete rule or filter on their own email accounts?

Thus, I deem these people to be idiots.
 
2011-12-05 04:03:37 PM
EnviroDude: RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

I have told my spouse to go to all forums I am a member (including here) to tell all friends, "so long and thanks for the fish".


"Give 'em one more herp-a-derp for me, honey. Then, sprinkle my ashes out in front of the ol' Asthma Clinic."
 
2011-12-05 04:04:22 PM
This story has every freakin' buzzword for overblown news item: Dead mothers, crying woman, Iraq war vet, reference to religion, Internet hackers and a farking partridge in a pear tree. It has irrationally pissed me off. Mostly because the people can't seem bring themselves to simply set their Spam filter to delete the emails. I get it, she was your mother, but she is not being used to Spam you from the dead...her shiatty yahoo email account is. Set the filter and get on with your life. I think it might be time to be an adult now.

Also, seriously, WTF is going on with website where this smaltzy story has links to pimps, fake breast exams, naughty school girls, pot smoking, hookers and mug shots?
freeversephotography.com
 
2011-12-05 04:06:17 PM
Any reason they can't just report the account for spamming?
 
2011-12-05 04:08:23 PM
pudding7: She died two years ago, but "they're still trying to get" her death certificate? Also, couldn't they just set up an auto-delete rule or filter on their own email accounts?

Thus, I deem these people to be idiots.


That is what I was thinking.... I mean, are you expecting something from your grandmother from her account? Just say "send all email from her to spam".

But, people that are very technical and are around "computer" people most of the time (via work or social groups, etc ) tend to forget how clueless everyone else is with computers though. Most people really just know the bare minimum to get their email and read a few websites. Even otherwise "smart" people are really not that savvy, like my sister-in-law who is a doctor and fully admits to being "tech-tarded".
 
2011-12-05 04:10:25 PM
What they apparently don't understand is that Yahoo really has fark all to do with this. Standard email has no more mechanism for authenticating the sender of an email than the post office does for validating the return address on an envelope.

Sending an email from drew[nospam-﹫-backwards]k­raf*com, P­OTUS[nospam-﹫-backwards]esuoh­et­ihw*gov, or your dead mother is as simple as changing the settings in your mail client.


It kills me when someone gets a spam or virus email with the FROM: indicating it's someone they know and they automatically assume that that person's email has been hacked or their computer has a virus.
 
2011-12-05 04:17:55 PM
pudding7: She died two years ago, but "they're still trying to get" her death certificate? Also, couldn't they just set up an auto-delete rule or filter on their own email accounts?

Thus, I deem these people to be idiots.


We had a nighmare of a time trying to get a death certificate for the wife's uncle. He wasn't married, didn't have a partner, and his sister lives in Philly. His neice (my wife) for some reason wasn't allowed to get the cert... his sister had to.

Anyway, the dude had almost no money in his bank accounts, so we eventually just gave up.
 
2011-12-05 04:19:26 PM
JesseL: What they apparently don't understand is that Yahoo really has fark all to do with this. Standard email has no more mechanism for authenticating the sender of an email than the post office does for validating the return address on an envelope.

Sending an email from drew[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]kraf[* image 7x13]com, POTUS[[nospam-﹫-backwards] image 7x13]esuohetihw[* image 7x13]gov, or your dead mother is as simple as changing the settings in your mail client.


It kills me when someone gets a spam or virus email with the FROM: indicating it's someone they know and they automatically assume that that person's email has been hacked or their computer has a virus.


Exactly... spam is not sent "from" Yahoo.com. Its sent from a spam server or hacked computers using the yahoo.com as a fake "from email" Nothing Yahoo can do.
 
2011-12-05 04:48:26 PM
www.zombiereportingcenter.com

Will trade penis enlargement for delicious BRAINNNSSS
 
2011-12-05 04:56:00 PM
F*ck Yahoo.

Similar thing happened to my best friend three months ago. Her sister died, and three days after the funeral, she gets an email from the deceased sister's yahoo email account. And another copy, and another, and another. Every time she got one, she was a wreck.

Contacted Yahoo, asked them simply "can you disable the account" not "we want access to it." Were given the same load of sh*t formletter about how you have to have both a death certificate AND notarized, legal proof from an attorney that the deceased specifically wanted you to have access to their accounts after death.

Contacted them again, said "hey, we don't want in, just put the account on temporary halt, send the owner an email asking them to confirm--and if you don't get a response, leave it suspended" (just didn't want to keep getting the damn mystery emails). They refused.

If they can lock down your account when they suspect someone hacked it, or if you haven't used it in a while, why can't they do something humane when there's a strange circumstance like this that causes people genuine emotional pain.
 
2011-12-05 05:03:38 PM
YaBooooooooo!
 
2011-12-05 05:05:03 PM
Timmy the Tumor: F*ck Yahoo.

Similar thing happened to my best friend three months ago. Her sister died, and three days after the funeral, she gets an email from the deceased sister's yahoo email account. And another copy, and another, and another. Every time she got one, she was a wreck.

Contacted Yahoo, asked them simply "can you disable the account" not "we want access to it." Were given the same load of sh*t formletter about how you have to have both a death certificate AND notarized, legal proof from an attorney that the deceased specifically wanted you to have access to their accounts after death.

Contacted them again, said "hey, we don't want in, just put the account on temporary halt, send the owner an email asking them to confirm--and if you don't get a response, leave it suspended" (just didn't want to keep getting the damn mystery emails). They refused.

If they can lock down your account when they suspect someone hacked it, or if you haven't used it in a while, why can't they do something humane when there's a strange circumstance like this that causes people genuine emotional pain.


As explained above, Yahoo has nothing to do with the problem. Shutting down the account wouldn't make it go away because it the account was never necessary to send the messages in the first place.

Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spoofing
 
2011-12-05 05:10:57 PM
JesseL: Timmy the Tumor: F*ck Yahoo.

Similar thing happened to my best friend three months ago. Her sister died, and three days after the funeral, she gets an email from the deceased sister's yahoo email account. And another copy, and another, and another. Every time she got one, she was a wreck.

Contacted Yahoo, asked them simply "can you disable the account" not "we want access to it." Were given the same load of sh*t formletter about how you have to have both a death certificate AND notarized, legal proof from an attorney that the deceased specifically wanted you to have access to their accounts after death.

Contacted them again, said "hey, we don't want in, just put the account on temporary halt, send the owner an email asking them to confirm--and if you don't get a response, leave it suspended" (just didn't want to keep getting the damn mystery emails). They refused.

If they can lock down your account when they suspect someone hacked it, or if you haven't used it in a while, why can't they do something humane when there's a strange circumstance like this that causes people genuine emotional pain.

As explained above, Yahoo has nothing to do with the problem. Shutting down the account wouldn't make it go away because it the account was never necessary to send the messages in the first place.

Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spoofing




I understand.

In my circumstance, it was an auto-reply the deceased sister had set up, that for some odd reason sent itself to everyone on her email list three days after she died (I got three copies of the email, her sister got half a dozen).

Something hiccupped on Yahoo's side (there wasn't anything other than the auto-reply, so it wasn't your usual Yahoo mail hack to send "grow your dick bigger" spam), yet they wouldn't suspend the account.

I get "your account may have been accessed without your permission" email from Google a couple times a year, Facebook will once in a while request account verification through your email, etc.

Just felt, and still feel, that Yahoo's response was uncaring


(cute email, Barack!)
 
2011-12-05 05:16:40 PM
I see dead people's spam.
 
2011-12-05 05:58:03 PM
Wait until they find out that it's not actually even going through her yahooo account. I'll have my friend p­r­es­ident[nospam-﹫-backwards]esu­ohe­t­ihw*g­ov explain to them how secure SMTP is.
 
2011-12-05 06:01:42 PM
Timmy the Tumor: In my circumstance, it was an auto-reply the deceased sister had set up, that for some odd reason sent itself to everyone on her email list three days after she died (I got three copies of the email, her sister got half a dozen).

Something hiccupped on Yahoo's side (there wasn't anything other than the auto-reply, so it wasn't your usual Yahoo mail hack to send "grow your dick bigger" spam), yet they wouldn't suspend the account.


Did you get any "blank" emails from other friends/family around the same time? Sounds like somebody had a virus that spoofed your addresses in its mails to her. Have seen plenty of virus emails whose content wouldn't be visible in a reply, might or might not still contain the virus payload.
 
2011-12-05 06:02:09 PM
Isn't spam against yahoo's usage agreement? Seems like all they'd have to do is report the account as generating spam and yahoo should close it.

As noted above, it may not stop the problem, depends on how the spammer has things set up.
 
2011-12-05 07:31:58 PM
pudding7: She died two years ago, but "they're still trying to get" her death certificate?

WHAR DETH CERFICAT
WHAR?
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2011-12-05 07:41:25 PM
nekom:

Well played.
 
2011-12-05 07:46:25 PM
img853.imageshack.us

Really bad ad placement. Poor woman can't get a break.
 
2011-12-05 11:41:50 PM
Just block the e-mail address. Seriously.
 
2011-12-05 11:42:18 PM
Godscrack: [img853.imageshack.us image 301x316]

Really bad ad placement. Poor woman can't get a break.


download.gannett.edgesuite.net


/spam filter, you idiots
 
2011-12-05 11:43:36 PM
RexTalionis: How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

Singing telegram.
 
2011-12-05 11:44:54 PM
While I feel for that family, surely a good temporary solution would be to have any emails from that account auto-delete. You'd never have to see them.

I wonder if anyone's mentioned that option to them.
 
2011-12-05 11:47:43 PM
RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

There are plenty of "dead man switch" programs out there.

I have one. If I don't sign in to the system at least once every 14 days, it sends a message to all the contacts in list 1. If no one from list 1 responds with 5 days, it sends out my "Hey guys... looks like I'm dead. Let me tell you what I really think about some things" emails.

There are 3 people in list one, and they all have override capability, as well as the root passwords for my system. (which are sent via encoded message in the list 1 letters)

They all know they are on the list, and they know what to do.

/Save the porn, copy the pics, delete the rest, viking burial, close social media accounts.
 
2011-12-05 11:49:15 PM
My Facebook keeps suggesting friending a person who died in a relatively high profile bicycle crash in Anchorage. His page is still up as a tribute.
 
2011-12-05 11:50:06 PM
Ennuipoet: This story has every freakin' buzzword for overblown news item: Dead mothers, crying woman, Iraq war vet, reference to religion, Internet hackers and a farking partridge in a pear tree. It has irrationally pissed me off. Mostly because the people can't seem bring themselves to simply set their Spam filter to delete the emails. I get it, she was your mother, but she is not being used to Spam you from the dead...her shiatty yahoo email account is. Set the filter and get on with your life. I think it might be time to be an adult now.

Also, seriously, WTF is going on with website where this smaltzy story has links to pimps, fake breast exams, naughty school girls, pot smoking, hookers and mug shots?
[freeversephotography.com image 640x438]


I know, Right? Don't they know Fark has the market cornered?
 
2011-12-05 11:50:36 PM
FTFA: They cannot make it stop. Every other day another email from the hacker hit's them.

How about I hit the "Editor" with a dictionary?
 
2011-12-05 11:51:09 PM
This is just silly, do these people not have real problems?
 
2011-12-05 11:51:12 PM
RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

I'm more worried about my mom finding all my porn, sex toys and drug paraphernalia after I die.
 
2011-12-05 11:53:32 PM
TravisBickle62: This is just silly, do these people not have real problems?

Well, there is the whole dead family member thing.
 
2011-12-05 11:53:40 PM
FTFA: They've been hammered by a barrage emails from their dead mother's account.

Every other day another email from the hacker hit's them.

Woods' heard a beep on her phone in September and looked down and saw it was from her mom's email account.

You can do better than that, WTSP 10
 
2011-12-05 11:55:42 PM
This must be going around now, because my account got hacked, and I've gotten emails "from" 3 or 4 people who also were. It would send emails to 4 or 5 of the people on my contact list at a time, from me, which was kind of embarrassing, since they were things like "I have to tell you how I made my penis larger!" and things like that. "I found the best on-line pharmacy!" Yeah, OK.

Anyway, a couple of them told me, and all I had to do was change my password on the account to make it stop.

These people seem a little......sensitive.

/My mother used to get a "prank" caller right after my dad was killed, who kept asking for Jack. It would have been easy to get his information, since his death was kind of unusual and it made the papers. I would have liked to find that asshole.

kingoomieiii: "Give 'em one more herp-a-derp for me, honey. Then, sprinkle my ashes out in front of the ol' Asthma Clinic."

Nobody would believe it. The next new troll would have to be Envirodude. Because they live on forever........
 
2011-12-05 11:55:46 PM
shakes tiny 3-minutes late fist at Fluorescent Testicle
 
2011-12-05 11:58:34 PM
Wait wait wait, what? Since when could you die of scleroderma? I know it's incredibly annoying and at most painful, but deadly?

/i know, i know. I notice the stupidest things in sad articles like these
//might be my way of coping
 
2011-12-06 12:03:42 AM
RexTalionis: ... How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

Fellow Farkers will know that I'm dead when my posts are intelligent and full of wit.
 
2011-12-06 12:03:55 AM
FTFA They cannot make it stop.

Yes they can. Open new accounts. Problem solved.
 
2011-12-06 12:04:26 AM
The Sacramento Bee has a good, recent article on this subject:

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/12/04/4096421/your-online-life-after-death - whos.html
 
2011-12-06 12:04:51 AM
Why doesn't Yahoo just tell them that demons are holding their mother's soul captive? The odds are damned good that they'd believe it. If they don't seem convinced, just mention some exotic-sounding, non-Christian country in Asia known for hacking attacks.

"Let my mother out of this computer NOW you damned Hindu bastard!!"
 
2011-12-06 12:07:18 AM
Danger Avoid Death: RexTalionis: How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

Singing telegram.


I... am... your singing telegram (blam!)
 
2011-12-06 12:08:29 AM
JesseL: As explained above, Yahoo has nothing to do with the problem. Shutting down the account wouldn't make it go away because it the account was never necessary to send the messages in the first place.

Read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_spoofing


Um, no, not every single instance of spamming is E-mail spoofing. It is incredibly common for spammers to take control of AOL, Yahoo, and other accounts to use for spam. It's especially useful for those "I write this letter with tears in my eyes, I went on a vacation and then I got busted for a DUI and need money" emails sent to address books.

I mean, why not? It is apparently extraordinarily difficult to get Yahoo to return control of the account to the original owners.
 
2011-12-06 12:16:39 AM
Twitch Boy: My Facebook keeps suggesting friending a person who died in a relatively high profile bicycle crash in Anchorage. His page is still up as a tribute.

This is not the best facebook page in the world.

This is only a tribute.

/grew up in Anchorage
//was it bears? Damn bears.
 
2011-12-06 12:17:02 AM
RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

I've actually never thought about it, but I think I will have something added to my will so my wife can access all my account and just throw a "Thanx for everything, Farkers." out there. I'll also have her put a very embarrassing photo of me on there too (and there are many) just for fun.

Wow..Now I'm looking forward to my demise. Go figure.
 
2011-12-06 12:17:21 AM
I still get email about my XBox Live account. Don't they know that they are dead to me?
 
2011-12-06 12:17:43 AM
RexTalionis: This actually raises an interesting issue - do you have a plan for your email and social media accounts in the event of your death? How would you let your fellow Farkers know that you're now a corpse?

More importantly, do you have arrangements with a friend who, in the event of your untimely death, will go and wipe your computers HDDs and throw out that box you keep in the back of the closet, the one with all the really kinky porn.
 
2011-12-06 12:22:02 AM
Cytokine Storm: More importantly, do you have arrangements with a friend who, in the event of your untimely death, will go and wipe your computers HDDs and throw out that box you keep in the back of the closet, the one with all the really kinky porn.

My mother told me if she died I'm responsible for throwing out her porn before grandma sees it. Of course she didn't tell me WHERE she keeps her porn, and I'll be honest, I did NOT ask. (shudder)

Thankfully grandma passed years ago so if mom dies I'll just throw my raciest aunt in there to hunt it down. I do NOT want to find, or deal with my mother's porn stash. O-M-G.
 
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