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(AZ Family) Spiffy Remember how the Arizona Cardinals started the season 1-6? They're still in the wildcard hunt after defeating the Dallas Cowboys   (azfamily.com) divider line 61
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2011-12-05 12:35:43 PM
No, not really. 5 wins, when 2-4 other teams not in first place are sitting on 9. Everyone would have to lose out and we'd have to win out. extremely unlikely.
 
2011-12-05 03:27:52 PM
This team lost to the Redskins. No way they make it.
 
2011-12-05 03:28:43 PM
Hey, you know how they're 4-1 in their last 5?

They have the team that kicked their ass up next.

And they have to do it with their starter (2-6 record, while the backup was 3-1).
 
2011-12-05 03:28:51 PM
Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.
 
2011-12-05 03:30:04 PM
FTA: Arizona beat a team with a winning record for the first time this season.

So no, submitter.
 
2011-12-05 03:31:32 PM
Mathematically, sure. But otherwise, no.
 
2011-12-05 03:33:46 PM
PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Well, they have a better record, beat the Cardinals, and are a better team with a better QB, better coach, better RBs, better O-Line, and better defense.

/the Cards have a better punt returner and WRs
 
2011-12-05 03:35:13 PM
Atlanta's going to take one of the two. It'll be interesting to see if Chicago or Detroit can limp into the other, or if the NFC Least runner up manages to eke past either of them...
 
2011-12-05 03:35:56 PM
rickythepenguin: No, not really. 5 wins, when 2-4 other teams not in first place are sitting on 9. Everyone would have to lose out and we'd have to win out. extremely unlikely.

Beating the Cowboys should count twice.
 
2011-12-05 03:42:29 PM
Still in the wildcard hunt.

But not the divisional hunt. Because the Niners have that locked up.

/As I said in the Packers thread...
//Whar Niners Thread?
 
2011-12-05 03:42:47 PM
Carolina's still alive despite losing to 4 of the 5 teams ahead of them in the wildcard.

Damnit.
 
2011-12-05 03:43:18 PM
rickythepenguin: No, not really. 5 wins, when 2-4 other teams not in first place are sitting on 9. Everyone would have to lose out and we'd have to win out. extremely unlikely.

What standings are you looking at? The best record in the NFC for a non division leader is 7-5 (Detroit, Chicago and Atlanta). There are no teams in the NFL not tied or in first all by themselves that have any more than 7 wins (Pitts and Balt are the tied teams at 9).

Arizona could finish strong at 3-1 (they will probably lose to SF this week...but finish with the Bengals, Browns and Seahawks).
 
2011-12-05 03:44:20 PM
Hey, if Arizona wanted to help my guys out in the race for the 2 seed, well...hopefully they've forgotten about that whole retiring Kurt Warner thing.
 
2011-12-05 03:48:04 PM
srhp29: Arizona could finish strong at 3-1 (they will probably lose to SF this week...but finish with the Bengals, Browns and Seahawks).

Problem: Kevin Kolb.
 
2011-12-05 03:55:13 PM
IAmRight: srhp29: Arizona could finish strong at 3-1 (they will probably lose to SF this week...but finish with the Bengals, Browns and Seahawks).

Problem: Kevin Kolb.


I said could, but even if they did...8-8 is probably not good enough to get into the playoffs. I guess my comment was more about what standings that other guy has been looking at, because they are wrong.
 
2011-12-05 03:55:40 PM
PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Best case scenario for full troll would be to knock out the Niners, Packers, and Saints in the post only to lose to the Titians in the bowl.
 
2011-12-05 03:58:01 PM
Dafatone: //Whar Niners Thread?

Along with the guy asking for the Houston thread: not every team that wins on Sunday gets their own thread. There's already like 5 NFL greenlights today. You'll live.
 
2011-12-05 03:59:13 PM
Their chances would be better in the AFC this year. That conference is dog shiat
 
2011-12-05 03:59:36 PM
PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Given their remaining schedule they have a better chance than the Cards. I don't expect either to make it though. Had the Seahawks not sh*t the bed against the Redskins they would be in good shape.
 
2011-12-05 03:59:43 PM
Well i guess anything is possible, the Eagles are still in the hunt as well.
 
2011-12-05 04:02:19 PM
Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Best case scenario for full troll would be to knock out the Niners, Packers, and Saints in the post only to lose to the Titians in the bowl.

If and only if Hasselbeck gets hurt and Locker leads the Titans to a win.

/well, a Tebows SB win would be a different level of trolling completely
 
2011-12-05 04:03:06 PM
ESPN is now reporting that the Arizona Cardinals have no shot, absolutely no shot, at make the NFL playoffs this year. Barring, of course, the 49ers and Cowboys team charters crashing and killing all aboard.
 
2011-12-05 04:06:20 PM
No they didn't, submitard. The Cowboys defeated the Cowboys in a spectacular orgy of fail.
 
2011-12-05 04:06:36 PM
IAmRight: srhp29: Arizona could finish strong at 3-1 (they will probably lose to SF this week...but finish with the Bengals, Browns and Seahawks).

Problem: Kevin Kolb.


There's always Patrick Peterson. He could be Arizona's offense the same way he was LSU's offense last year.

Hm, Chicago probably a non-factor in the playoff race with all of their injuries. There's also the Giants to consider; they will probably split with Dallas, but I could see them losing the other two. Atlanta's remaining schedule is pretty weak outside of the second Saints game, so right now I'd put them in. (damn)

Which leaves Detroit, I guess, as the big question mark. They'll beat Minnesota, but after that? Oakland and San Diego could go either way, then there is Green Bay. They would lose to the Aaron Rodgers Packers, but stand a chance against the Matt Flynn Packers, if Mike McCarthy decided to show mercy. Not that he should, as you should never let a divisional foe back into the playoffs.

In short, Arizona's screwed.
 
2011-12-05 04:13:12 PM
Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Best case scenario for full troll would be to knock out the Niners, Packers, and Saints in the post only to lose to the Titians in the bowl.


Talk about a dagger right through the hearts of all of us Trollhawk fans.

/why do you hate me?
 
2011-12-05 04:14:55 PM
merkey88: Dafatone: //Whar Niners Thread?

Along with the guy asking for the Houston thread: not every team that wins on Sunday gets their own thread. There's already like 5 NFL greenlights today. You'll live.
get over it.

FTFY
 
2011-12-05 04:27:44 PM
merkey88: Dafatone: //Whar Niners Thread?

Along with the guy asking for the Houston thread: not every team that wins on Sunday gets their own thread. There's already like 5 NFL greenlights today. You'll live.


Except the 49ers didn't just "win" on Sunday, they clinched a playoff berth for the first time in 9 farking years on Sunday. Lets give a thread about the 5-7 Cardinals still being mathematically alive in the playoff hunt instead.

Also, I hope the Cardinals or the Seahawks get into the playoffs at 8-8, can't be hoping for 9-7 because each of them play the 49ers once more (the Seahawks game in SEA will be brutal, the 49ers always lose one to the Seahawaks).
 
2011-12-05 04:28:27 PM
stappawho: PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Given their remaining schedule they have a better chance than the Cards. I don't expect either to make it though. Had the Seahawks not sh*t the bed against the Redskins they would be in good shape.


That game pisses me off. Even more than the Browns game.
 
2011-12-05 04:34:25 PM
PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

The entire division is trolling now. The Cards and Hawks could make the playoffs, theoretically. The Rams were supposed to be pretty good and are horrifically bad, even the guys that still have all their limbs attached. And the 49s were supposed to have another blah, supermarket-donut-as-dessert season and have a ridiculously good defense and surprisingly competent quarterback.
 
2011-12-05 04:39:16 PM
Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, NY Giants and the Cowboys all lost this week. Whoever sucks the least from that group will get two wild cards and one NFC East title. Obviously only the Giants or 'Boys can win the NFC East. the rest of the list basically have to lose out the rest of the way so that some trolling team squeaks into the playoffs. despite the legions of problems, i don't see that happening.
 
2011-12-05 04:47:37 PM
Dafatone: Still in the wildcard hunt.

But not the divisional hunt. Because the Niners have that locked up.

/As I said in the Packers thread...
//Whar Niners Thread?


THIS!

Of course, do they really deserve a thread for beating up on the red-headed step-child that is the Rams this year?

/Clinched
 
2011-12-05 04:55:01 PM
No. I do think we can get to 8-8 but the time for such considerations died with losses to the Seatrolls and Washington back in weeks 2 and. 3
 
2011-12-05 05:07:03 PM
stappawho: PowerSlacker: Following subby's "logic", the Trollhawks are still in the wild card race.

Given their remaining schedule they have a better chance than the Cards. I don't expect either to make it though. Had the Seahawks not sh*t the bed against the Redskins they would be in good shape.


TBH, if they had won the Redskins game, I would give them an excellent shot at going to the playoffs, with two relatively easy wins in the Rams and Cardinals, a game against the dilapitated Bears and then the Niners at Seattle, which is basically The Stadium Where Miracles Happen and, depending on standings, the Niners might rest their starters.
 
2011-12-05 05:07:44 PM
Actually, I just realized, the Seahawks are 5-7 and not 4-8.

I like their odds to get in as wildcard #2 @ 9-7.
 
2011-12-05 05:07:57 PM
Is it time to play the what's the craziest possible playoff scenario game yet?

Getting the Cardinals in is easy. Finding the 10-way tie at 8-8 is the fun part.
 
2011-12-05 05:11:44 PM
Just because they're 2 games back doesn't mean anything. You're not leapfrogging 4 other teams with 4 games remaining. You'd have to have like 16 games go your way.
 
2011-12-05 05:14:13 PM
Guelph35: Is it time to play the what's the craziest possible playoff scenario game yet?

Getting the Cardinals in is easy. Finding the 10-way tie at 8-8 is the fun part.


Were you able to do that?
 
2011-12-05 05:17:05 PM
They have a mathematical (but not realistic) chance of making the playoffs - same chance Subby's mom has of getting off the pole and kicking that nasty meth habit.
 
2011-12-05 05:19:26 PM
Didnt RTPosts, but Subby's headline should have been....When the Cowboys defeated themselves! Supremely poor coaching at the end of that game.
 
2011-12-05 05:20:46 PM
downstairs: Guelph35: Is it time to play the what's the craziest possible playoff scenario game yet?

Getting the Cardinals in is easy. Finding the 10-way tie at 8-8 is the fun part.

Were you able to do that?


I haven't tried yet for this year (still at work), but last year with 4 weeks to go I found a scenario with a total of 19 teams finishing 8-8.

I should be able to try this evening. Each conference has 11 teams that can go 8-8, but I'm not sure if 10 of them can happen at the same time.
 
2011-12-05 05:49:36 PM
KeithGate: Didnt RTPosts, but Subby's headline should have been....When the Cowboys defeated themselves! Supremely poor coaching at the end of that game.

It shouldn't come down to a clock issue at the end for the Cowboys to beat the Cardinals.
 
2011-12-05 05:50:08 PM
To hell with working at work. (new window)

I got 2 9-way ties at 8-8 at the same time.

The NFC can't get 10 or 11 because TB/CAR and PHI/WAS both feature teams that must win out for 8-8.

The AFC might be able to get 10 or 11, but not at the same time as the 9-way in the NFC.
 
2011-12-05 05:57:42 PM
PowerSlacker: KeithGate: Didnt RTPosts, but Subby's headline should have been....When the Cowboys defeated themselves! Supremely poor coaching at the end of that game.

It shouldn't come down to a clock issue at the end for the Cowboys to beat the Cardinals.


Sure it should. It's December!
 
2011-12-05 06:07:28 PM
Guelph35: To hell with working at work. (new window)

I got 2 9-way ties at 8-8 at the same time.

The NFC can't get 10 or 11 because TB/CAR and PHI/WAS both feature teams that must win out for 8-8.

The AFC might be able to get 10 or 11, but not at the same time as the 9-way in the NFC.


Awesome!
 
2011-12-05 06:15:04 PM
Guelph35: To hell with working at work. (new window)

I got 2 9-way ties at 8-8 at the same time.

The NFC can't get 10 or 11 because TB/CAR and PHI/WAS both feature teams that must win out for 8-8.

The AFC might be able to get 10 or 11, but not at the same time as the 9-way in the NFC.


I do like how the NFC West gets maximum trolling in that scenario.
 
2011-12-05 06:22:40 PM
Guelph35: To hell with working at work. (new window)

I got 2 9-way ties at 8-8 at the same time.

The NFC can't get 10 or 11 because TB/CAR and PHI/WAS both feature teams that must win out for 8-8.

The AFC might be able to get 10 or 11, but not at the same time as the 9-way in the NFC.


NFC West gets both wildcards? THE WORLD WILL END!

/Would be hilarious to see half the NFL go 8-8, though
 
2011-12-05 06:24:42 PM
Guelph35: To hell with working at work. (new window)

I got 2 9-way ties at 8-8 at the same time.

The NFC can't get 10 or 11 because TB/CAR and PHI/WAS both feature teams that must win out for 8-8.

The AFC might be able to get 10 or 11, but not at the same time as the 9-way in the NFC.


I've got the AFC to 10, but 11 isn't possible as far as I can see. And you're right, that requires dropping the NFC to 8 teams at 8-8.
 
2011-12-05 06:25:49 PM
That win against the 'Boys doesnt mean the Cards are are good. They're showing once the players on D get the new system and once Kolb starting to get the O system they can play well. Plus they've beat the Cowboys in fluky/spectacular fashion the last 3 years in a row: blocked punt for TD, 4th and 15 to Fitz for 20 yards being his ONLY catch in the game last year, and the icing the kicker debale. They play the Cowboys like they play division rivals it seems like. Used to be division rivals but I don't think that counts 10 years later.
 
2011-12-05 06:31:35 PM
I chuckle that the Seahawks are regarding the Cardinals as pushovers. Really? After barely eking out a win at home when Feely shanked multiple FGs? Hasselbeck is gone. It's a scrub brawl now. Certainly not a sure thing.
 
2011-12-05 06:38:22 PM
Ted Kennedy's Brain Tumor: I chuckle that the Seahawks are regarding the Cardinals as pushovers. Really? After barely eking out a win at home when Feely shanked multiple FGs? Hasselbeck is gone. It's a scrub brawl now. Certainly not a sure thing.

I woulda been worried if you had Skelton playing.
 
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