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2011-12-05 12:49:46 PM
Because you put lipstick around it's rim. How it got on the coffee cup however...
 
2011-12-05 12:49:57 PM
I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.
 
2011-12-05 12:50:43 PM
POOP THREAD!
 
2011-12-05 12:51:00 PM
It would seem to me that a scientist could synthecize the enzymes that alter the coffee's chemistry and then we could drink good coffee that hasn't been sifted out of a litter box. And it would probably be cheaper too.
 
2011-12-05 12:51:55 PM
I got to try Kopi Luwak - some Canadian scientist was studying it and came to MIT and did a presentation for the Ig Nobel Lectures.

/It wasn't the best coffee... more like #2.
 
2011-12-05 12:52:46 PM
BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

If you like raspberry flavoring, then chances are you have. Castoreum is a beaver's anal gland, and someone discovered it tastes remarkably similar to raspberrys. Look for it on the label wherever raspberry flavoring is sold. CSB
 
2011-12-05 12:53:00 PM
Apart from the history and color commentary of Kopi Luwak, the only thing the author had to say about the coffee was that it is less bitter? Great review.
 
2011-12-05 12:53:48 PM
It was okay. Bought a small bag in Borneo. Nothing amazing, though my coffee machine is crap so that may be part of it.
 
2011-12-05 12:55:25 PM
Mixolydian Master: BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

If you like raspberry flavoring, then chances are you have. Castoreum is a beaver's anal gland, and someone discovered it tastes remarkably similar to raspberrys. Look for it on the label wherever raspberry flavoring is sold. CSB


I'm sorry that I now know that.
 
2011-12-05 12:55:57 PM
We should all start doing this, create a product that is really expensive and makes the stupid feel good about themselves and sell it at massively overpriced point, then laugh at tell when just giving them the standard product in a different package.
 
2011-12-05 12:56:37 PM
Mixolydian Master: BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

If you like raspberry flavoring, then chances are you have. Castoreum is a beaver's anal gland, and someone discovered it tastes remarkably similar to raspberrys. Look for it on the label wherever raspberry flavoring is sold. CSB


Question: how did this come to be discovered? Who goes around giving rim jobs to semi-aquatic rodents?

/was going to ask about rim jobs to beavers, but I didn't want the extra euphemism.
 
2011-12-05 12:56:47 PM
Mixolydian Master: BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

If you like raspberry flavoring, then chances are you have. Castoreum is a beaver's anal gland, and someone discovered it tastes remarkably similar to raspberrys. Look for it on the label wherever raspberry flavoring is sold. CSB


Accept no substitutes!
 
2011-12-05 12:58:26 PM
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2011-12-05 01:02:21 PM
subby should have used 'ass' instead of 'butt' so we could apply the XKCD hypen move.

cat ass-coffee?

/meh
 
2011-12-05 01:06:30 PM
cgraves67: It would seem to me that a scientist could synthecize the enzymes that alter the coffee's chemistry and then we could drink good coffee that hasn't been sifted out of a litter box. And it would probably be cheaper too.

this
 
2011-12-05 01:11:19 PM
It makes an even better beer

www.bevlaw.com
 
2011-12-05 01:12:45 PM
The comments about flavor in the review were actually pretty interesting. As a coffee whore I'm naturally curious about cat butt coffee but I'm too cheap and grossed out to try it myself. This review will help me get over it. :)
 
2011-12-05 01:17:13 PM
An old customer of mine always wanted to meet at a local coffee house rather than at his corporate office because he liked their coffee. I dislike coffee. Tea for me. Only coffee I can stand is cold filtered through something like a Toddy (now apparently owned by starbucks). He once bought me a cup of this saying that it was "awesome". To be honest, with all of the extra crap he put in his coffee that was extra at this place (including a whiskey once in a while), the cost was the same as one of his giant things. I sipped it then asked a couple of college kids who could not afford such things at the next table if they wanted to try it. The three of us agreed that it was "meh". Obviously we do not have the trained taste buds.
 
2011-12-05 01:17:44 PM
Relevant...

i1214.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-05 01:19:11 PM
Postdoc in my lab brought back from Indonesia some of this coffee. It's quite tasty, less astringent than others.

Jeebus Saves: It makes an even better beer

[weasel.jpg]


True. I got a bottle cellared, looking forward to quaffing it in a couple years.
 
2011-12-05 01:22:07 PM
TFA: "If I were a Russian oligarch or an investment banker or something, and $420 a pound represented a much smaller amount of my time worked, I'd probably drink this. As it is, not worth it."*

That asterisk disturbs me. Where does it go?! What is it referencing?! I don't understand!
 
2011-12-05 01:22:41 PM
Lorelle: [farm2.static.flickr.com image 430x500]

This is on my fridge.
 
2011-12-05 01:22:52 PM
BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

Honey comes from a bee's behind.
 
2011-12-05 01:26:32 PM
Wellon Dowd: BurnShrike: I try to make a point of not eating foods that have come out of an animal's anus.

Honey comes from a bee's behind.


You don't want to know whose behind toothpaste comes from.
 
2011-12-05 01:33:04 PM
Starry Heavens: TFA: "If I were a Russian oligarch or an investment banker or something, and $420 a pound represented a much smaller amount of my time worked, I'd probably drink this. As it is, not worth it."*

That asterisk disturbs me. Where does it go?! What is it referencing?! I don't understand!


It's not an asterisk. It is an abstract representation of the source.
 
2011-12-05 01:33:27 PM
HailRobonia: I got to try Kopi Luwak - some Canadian scientist was studying it and came to MIT and did a presentation for the Ig Nobel Lectures.

/It wasn't the best coffee... more like #2.


What you did there. I see it.
 
2011-12-05 01:34:01 PM
Couple years ago, a friend of mine who works for an importer handed me this package of coffee in another language that was from a box of stuff destroyed in transit. He said "Well, this package is supposed to be worth a shiatton of money, so I figure it's good coffee and thought I'd grab a pack for you, too."

Bring it home. Not a big package, mind you. So next morning I put it on to brew. Smelled really good, pour a cup and take a sip. Delicious! I'm like "Damn this is good coffee!" Head off to work, have a day, go home, etc, wake the next morning and make another cup. I'd pondered saving it in the freezer for special occasions but figured there is only enough in this package for perhaps 5 cups total, I'll just have another 4 days of way good morning coffee.

I settle down to read the news and check Fark, then out of curiosity I grab the package and google the words in there. Hmm.. hang on, one of those words is, I'm sure I'd seen it before... let me see.... googlegoogle read read.... Cat poop coffee.

Now, I would LIKE to say, for the sake of humor, that I spat my coffee all over my laptop, rinsed my mouth out several times and drank a bottle of Listerine (that's only on Wednesdays). But I'll be damned if that wasn't some of the best coffee I've ever had. Needless to say, I did finish the coffee. And I did call the guy, in the morning when I knew he'd be having coffee. "Thanks Joe, that is really good coffee! By the way, it's Kopi Luwak, you might want to google that." Thankfully for humor, he wasn't as taken with the cup as I was and he DID spit the coffee all over his table and shirt.

farker didn't give me the rest of his coffee though.
 
2011-12-05 01:36:25 PM
cps-static.rovicorp.com

'hot' coffee
 
2011-12-05 01:38:02 PM
What you are witnessing is marketing genius at its finest. I'm sure it all started with some marketing guy on vacation in Indonesia one day who saw a dirt poor sumbiatch following a cat around with a bag.

"What are you doing", he asked.
"I am too poor to buy coffee but this cat is known to eat the berries of the coffee plant then shiat them out", replied the dirt poor sumbiatch. "I will then brew them", he added.
"Hmmm...., thought the marketing guy on vacation, I bet I can call it a "delicacy" and sell it for $420 a pound.

/True Story
//at lease I'm pretty sure this is how it went down
//Next fall I will follow a bear around and harvest berries out of its poop.
///Bear Berry Tea. TASTE THE WILD!!!!
////Copyright Implied
 
2011-12-05 01:40:40 PM
HailRobonia: I got to try Kopi Luwak - some Canadian scientist was studying it and came to MIT and did a presentation for the Ig Nobel Lectures.

/It wasn't the best coffee... more like #2.


And now my coffee is on my monitor. Thanks
 
2011-12-05 01:49:46 PM
I buy regular coffee beans, and eat them. When I find them in my leavings, I re-roast them in the oven, grind them up, and make Kopi Luwak a la Moops. It's much cheaper and has a nutty flavor.

www.dvd.net.au
 
2011-12-05 01:56:19 PM
th0rr: /True Story
//at lease I'm pretty sure this is how it went down


The second to last paragraph in TFA actually addresses that. Except for the "too poor," and time period you're pretty close.
 
2011-12-05 01:56:47 PM
I had some Esmeralda Geisha back when it was really good, and I can't imagine Kopi Luwak being more delicate and tea-like than that was. I'm more a fan of Ethiopian sun-dried process coffees.
 
2011-12-05 01:56:48 PM
Prof. Frink: HailRobonia: I got to try Kopi Luwak - some Canadian scientist was studying it and came to MIT and did a presentation for the Ig Nobel Lectures.

/It wasn't the best coffee... more like #2.

And now my coffee is on my monitor. Thanks


You owe me a keyboard.
 
2011-12-05 02:01:05 PM
There's going to be trouble, though, when the coffee hits the anus.
 
2011-12-05 02:02:01 PM
I'm not a coffee drinker, so I can't comment on the flavor, but my wife is, and sometimes when I go to London on business I'll buy a small amount of the cat shiat coffee beans for her there (they sell it at this really nice coffee store in London, plus a couple of other stores there). I haven't had to pay $420 per pound, though as TFA says the price is--I think that store sells it for something like £28 per 100 grams, which works out to more like US$200/pound. Still a shiatload (no pun intended) of money for some coffee beans, obviously. They also sell it at Harrod's, and yeah, their price is more like in the $400/lb range.

In the window of that store they have a display of some of the shiat in its natural, unroasted state. And when I say "some of the shiat," I literally mean some of the shiat--the unprocessed, raw form of those beans comes in the form of cat-turd-shaped clumps that consist mostly of coffee beans, bound together with dried-up cat shiat. I have some pics I took, but they're on my other computer at home.

Anyway, my wife thinks it was among the best coffees she's ever tasted, though not necessary the very best. But some friends she served it to, who are big-time coffee afficionados, thought is was clearly the very best they had ever had. Again, all coffee tastes the same to me (I don't like it no matter what), so I can't comment. But anyway, I guess like any other type of coffee, there are some variations of quality in the cat shiat coffee depending on produces and/or roasts it, so YMMV.
 
2011-12-05 02:04:40 PM
 
2011-12-05 02:10:48 PM
I have a box of Luwak Coffe brought back by a friend straight from Indonesia. Don't have anyone to drink it with.
 
2011-12-05 02:14:38 PM
As expensive as this shiate is, who's to stop some enterprising young man, such as myself, from buying a Costco barrel of coffee beans, making a quick stop at the local animal shelter to pick out a few cats... mealtime... harvest.... profit!
 
2011-12-05 02:21:04 PM
BillCo: The great cat butt thread of 2004. (new window)

It's a streetlight.

No, wait. Nevermind...
 
2011-12-05 02:21:08 PM
media.tumblr.com
 
2011-12-05 02:28:52 PM
Jeebus Saves
It makes an even better beer

It's very good and the only way I've had any of that coffee. Given that the beer costs little more than the brewer's civet shiat-less Beer Geek Breakfast, there's obviously just a very small quantity in each bottle.

hammettman
As expensive as this shiate is, who's to stop some enterprising young man, such as myself, from buying a Costco barrel of coffee beans, making a quick stop at the local animal shelter to pick out a few cats... mealtime... harvest.... profit!

How are you going to get the cats to eat the coffee beans? The civet eats the berries and shiats out the beans. Even if you could got the fresh berries, somehow I doubt the cats would eat them.
/coat all coffee beans with peanut butter?
//wtf would all that caffeine do to a house cat?
 
VYV
2011-12-05 02:29:48 PM
Thisbymaster: We should all start doing this, create a product that is really expensive and makes the stupid feel good about themselves and sell it at massively overpriced point, then laugh at tell when just giving them the standard product in a different package.

i.imgur.com
 
2011-12-05 02:31:57 PM
Cyberluddite: I guess like any other type of coffee, there are some variations of quality in the cat shiat coffee depending on produces and/or roasts it, so YMMV.

Roast date, brewing method and the quality of these two factors influences the quality of what ends up in your cup as much as (or sometimes more than) the initial quality of the beans. If the stuff you bought in London was roasted a month before you bought it, it probably wasn't a good representation of the process.

The other thing to remember is that for most boutique coffee, auction prices are based on blind cuppings where quality is judged objectively. I'm pretty sure Kopi Luwak is priced solely on exclusivity. I know for a fact that none of the big 3rd wave coffee roasters in the US will bother with it, because they don't even consider it to be "coffee" in the technical sense.

I regularly get coffee from Counter Culture that was roasted no more than 3 or 4 days before, and I can tell you that the difference a week or two of age makes is staggering, even for really good, skillfully roasted coffee. You can even see the difference right in the press when you brew it. The bloom looks totally different when it's fresh.

/not a snob, I just work with some people who really know their shiat
//also, I'll drink any coffee you put in front of me
 
2011-12-05 02:32:38 PM
I approve of this product.
 
2011-12-05 02:34:59 PM
hammettman: As expensive as this shiate is, who's to stop some enterprising young man, such as myself, from buying a Costco barrel of coffee beans, making a quick stop at the local animal shelter to pick out a few cats... mealtime... harvest.... profit!

One thing stopping you would be the difficultly you might experience in forcing a bunch of cats to actually eat coffee beans! Anyway, I know you're just kidding, but what the civits eat are the whole raw coffee fruits that have the bean in the middle, which look like this:

grassrootgourmet.files.wordpress.com

They then digest the outer flesh as food, and shiat out the bean as a waste product. If a cat ate just the bean part, presumably they would digest the bean instead of shiatting it out, right?
 
2011-12-05 02:41:38 PM
patrick767: Jeebus Saves
It makes an even better beer

It's very good and the only way I've had any of that coffee. Given that the beer costs little more than the brewer's civet shiat-less Beer Geek Breakfast, there's obviously just a very small quantity in each bottle.

hammettman
As expensive as this shiate is, who's to stop some enterprising young man, such as myself, from buying a Costco barrel of coffee beans, making a quick stop at the local animal shelter to pick out a few cats... mealtime... harvest.... profit!

How are you going to get the cats to eat the coffee beans? The civet eats the berries and shiats out the beans. Even if you could got the fresh berries, somehow I doubt the cats would eat them.
/coat all coffee beans with peanut butter?
//wtf would all that caffeine do to a house cat?


I'm pretty sure it would be easy to outwit a few house cats and have them do anything I want (new window)

/good point though, on the amped cats.
//dexedrine dogs to stand over them?
 
2011-12-05 02:45:06 PM
I wrote a lengthy review of the stuff years ago (with the cheeky title, "Bottoms Up"), which I began by citing my bona fides to offer my opinion of it. (Barista, blah blah blah) I finally arrived at the heart of the matter, what I thought of it. It's mostly what TFA says: uncommonly smooth, a seemingly impossible combination of great bold taste with lack of unpleasant notes. I then went on to opine that however good it was, it can't justify the cost.

A number of people who've tried it who are not familiar with exotic coffees (Dave Barry is one) haven't liked it, and I think I figured out why, because people who really know coffee rightfully celebrate it. Civet or not, it's an Indonesian coffee, and plenty of people just don't like those kinds, though many of us do. They are strong and earthy, and best drunk hot and fresh because they don't hold well. If you don't like those -- and plenty of people don't -- then you're also probably not going to like this, either.
 
2011-12-05 02:45:35 PM
Wellon Dowd: bee

I don't think a bee's butt works the way you think a bee's butt works.
 
2011-12-05 02:47:59 PM
Also, little known fact:

You can make a sort of "tea" out of coffee.

Usually, the coffee cherries are fermented and washed, and the pulp of the fruit is plowed back into the ground as fertilizer (they call it cascara), but you can actually just dry and brew the fruit casing by itself, and get the same amount of caffeine as coffee. It even tastes good. Fruity, and a little smoky, like figs and dried cherries.
 
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