Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

But which Mitt will we get?

Only lawyers and businessmen can be politicians. Someone on Fark told me that.

dittybopper: Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

Isn't he the guy from Beetlejuice?

Clowns in my Coffee: But which Mitt will we get?

The problem to the Tea Party folks is that Romney isn't crazy enough for them.

And as a moderate/democrat, the thought of a non-crazy Republican president might be survivable.

Only Nixon could go to China, because the dipshiat John Birchers couldn't gang up against a Republican president.

Similarly, if Romney got in, he'd probably be able to shaft the ultra-wealthy because he'd have 100% of lefty support & at least 20% of the remaining moderate-GOP support. Hannity will burst a blood vessel every day. It would be fun to watch.

& then the country is saved. Another Obama win would just cause another 4 years of partisan
*ssh*oles ganging up against him & blocking everything.

Thagnut: Similarly, if Romney got in, he'd probably be able to shaft the ultra-wealthy because he'd have 100% of lefty support & at least 20% of the remaining moderate-GOP support. Hannity will burst a blood vessel every day. It would be fun to watch.

Be able to? He's one of them.

To be fair, I think it's a sign that Baldwin isn't too crazy by going with Romney.

Jack Donaghy for President.

That's not going to dispel the notion that Romney is a RINO.

Clowns in my Coffee: But which Mitt will we get?

oryx: That's not going to dispel the notion that Romney is a RINO.

Romney's problem isn't being a RINO. It's being a ☧INO.

Thagnut: Similarly, if Romney got in, he'd probably be able to shaft the ultra-wealthy

Why would he do that?

That's the thing about Romney. It doesn't seem like he wants to *do* anything. Why does he want to be president? Most of what he says is blatant pandering to whatever audience he's talking to. You don't run for president out of a pure love for the idea of a balanced budget, assuming that actually matters to him. He just seems to want the position, in the abstract.

He's tolerable to many moderates because he's not an ideologue (albeit willing to pander to them), but in place of ideology he doesn't seem to have any beliefs at all. I think that as president he would let Congress run wild, because to oppose them would require him to make a public stand on something, with the entire world watching.

Man 30 Rock is great.

Also, doing Tina Fey is on my bucket list.

hurdboy: No, the Democrats would vote against anything Romeny proposed.

Doubtful. Democrats will even betray their own base to vote with Republicans. Of all the GOP candidates, Romney is the only one I'd feel comfortable with -- as he'd govern with polls. There's no doubt he'd raise taxes and the Democrats would gladly help him do so.

Thagnut: Similarly, if Romney got in, he'd probably be able to shaft the ultra-wealthy because he'd have 100% of lefty support & at least 20% of the remaining moderate-GOP support. Hannity will burst a blood vessel every day. It would be fun to watch.

Sure, he might be able to. But I haven't seen anything to indicate he actually would. Am I missing something?

Peter von Nostrand: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dittybopper: Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

Isn't he the guy from Beetlejuice?

Isn't he the guy that wrecked the Harrow buffet?

Isn't he the guy that thought coffee was for closers?

hurdboy: I think he'd govern as an executive, then try to weasel out of the unpopular decisions if he runs for re-election. But even when those decisions are contrary to his political positions, he'll do what makes the most sense. And say he didn't.

Yep. He'll just do and say what's expedient -- even if it's contradictory.

tricycleracer: Jack Donaghy for President.

He puts on a tux after 6 pm because what is he, a farmer?

I'd vote for him.

I was sent from planet Xiron to conquer the earth
I had a terrific plan - I thought it would work
Tried to get the Earthlings all to kill each other you see
But it all went wrong and now I must decree...

You are worthless Alec Baldwin, you are worthless Alec Baldwin
You failed in every way and now my stock in you has fallen
Your career is stallin' and you're worthless Alec Baldwin
That's why I blew your head off and your children are all bawlin'

Planet Xiron is inhabited with Xipods like me
But also with Balmacs who are giant bees
The Xipods and Balmacs are at constant war
So we wanted a new home and that's what Earth was for

But you are worthless Alec Baldwin, you are worthless Alec Baldwin
You farked up my whole plan and now Xiron is smeared with Balmac pollen
Your garbage needs some haulin' and you're worthless Alec Baldwin
Now I must return home a failure - I'm afraid the pit of Kryrok is callin'...

DarwiOdrade: Peter von Nostrand: McManus_brothers: YodaBlues: Peter von Nostrand: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dittybopper: Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

Isn't he the guy from Beetlejuice?

Isn't he the guy that wrecked the Harrow buffet?

Isn't he the guy that thought coffee was for closers?

Isn't he the guy who called his daughter a "thoughtless little pig"?

Isn't he the guy that performed his own ballistics test on a watermelon to prove that the President killed someone?

Isn't he an entertainer who is not Victoria Jackson, Chuck Norris, Michael Moriarty, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Miller..., and so instead of attacking him for having a political opinion, shouldn't we be attacking the NY Post for subjecting us to it?

Shut up and act (unless it's a Passion Play)! Shut up and sing (unless it's gospel music)!

Is this the thread where we give greater or lesser weight to an entertainer's political opinion due to their profession rather than considering the content of their statements?

We're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anybody want to see second prize?

Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.

Dr Dreidel: DarwiOdrade: Peter von Nostrand: McManus_brothers: YodaBlues: Peter von Nostrand: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dittybopper: Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

Isn't he the guy from Beetlejuice?

Isn't he the guy that wrecked the Harrow buffet?

Isn't he the guy that thought coffee was for closers?

Isn't he the guy who called his daughter a "thoughtless little pig"?

Isn't he the guy that performed his own ballistics test on a watermelon to prove that the President killed someone?

Isn't he an entertainer who is not Victoria Jackson, Chuck Norris, Michael Moriarty, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Miller, Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Curt Schilling, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, that congressman from the Real World, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Sarah Palin, the family with 36 kids, Donald Trump, Jon Runyan..., and so instead of attacking him for having a political opinion, shouldn't we be attacking the NY Post for subjecting us to it?

Shut up and act (unless it's a Passion Play)! Shut up and sing (unless it's gospel music)!

Wendy's Chili: Dr Dreidel: Isn't he an entertainer who is not Victoria Jackson, Chuck Norris, Michael Moriarty, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer, Dennis Miller, Ronald Reagan, Jack Kemp, Curt Schilling, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, that congressman from the Real World, Elizabeth Hasselbeck, Sarah Palin, the family with 36 kids, Donald Trump, Jon Runyan..., and so instead of attacking him for having a political opinion, shouldn't we be attacking the NY Post for subjecting us to it?

TBF, Reagan, Kemp, Schwartzennegger, Real World (R-Your State), Ventura, Palin, and Runyan actually held office; Trump's run for office before. I don't care what a COBOL programmer thinks about the EITC, but when they run for/hold office, that opinion somehow becomes more relevant.

// and The Body was an Independent
// Schilling, I hear from friends who work at BigHuge, is actually a nice guy (which is irrelevant to this discussion)
// but still, fark Liz Hasselbeck's opinion
// and Palin, I guess, who voluntarily relinquished her job, and so she's now a private citizen by choice, which means it just doesn't matter anymore
// President Robin Ventura might be fun, though the Ryanites (Nolaners?) would walk all over us

Dr Dreidel: Shut up and act (unless it's a Passion Play)! Shut up and sing (unless it's gospel music)!

Wait so you want people who act in a passion play to get preachy on stage instead of going through the motions? And you want gospel singers to go onto several minute political tirades on stage?

And if you would prefer neither, why gospel? Gospel music is great, I think you are misplacing your hate for christian rock... which is neither.

Saiga410: Dr Dreidel: Shut up and act (unless it's a Passion Play)! Shut up and sing (unless it's gospel music)!

Wait so you want people who act in a passion play to get preachy on stage instead of going through the motions? And you want gospel singers to go onto several minute political tirades on stage?

And if you would prefer neither, why gospel? Gospel music is great, I think you are misplacing your hate for christian rock... which is neither.

A Passion Play IS preachy, by definition. Jim Caviziel was in one, and it felt pretty "preachy" to me. (Also anti-Semitic, but that's a different discussion.)

Gospel's alright (not my bag, but fun to listen to), I just needed an example of something Jesus-y. Christian Rock, as you say, is neither - meaning both the rock and the Jesus are so diluted that fans of either will dislike it. Ergo, disqualified as being funny/appropriate to the joke. Gospel is also preachy by design.

IOW, the hate that gets lobbed at "liberal Hollywood" performers by the right for speaking their opinions wouldn't apply to performers of gospel music/Passion Plays - they're doing all the "speaking" that the right wants them to - "Come to Jesus".

// the "shut up and X" means, to these folks, "do nothing outside of entertaining", and the joke is "unless it conforms to my world view"
// jokes ain'ta funny when they have to be explained

Dr Dreidel: TBF, Reagan, Kemp, Schwartzennegger, Real World (R-Your State), Ventura, Palin, and Runyan actually held office

More proof of the right's love affair with celebrities who pander to their side.

Beluga Heights: Man 30 Rock is great.

Also, doing Tina Fey is on my bucket list.

Call for you on line three, Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Make More Hinjews: Beluga Heights: Man 30 Rock is great.

Also, doing Tina Fey is on my bucket list.

Call for you on line three, Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

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I don't follow.

Wendy's Chili: Dr Dreidel: TBF, Reagan, Kemp, Schwartzennegger, Real World (R-Your State), Ventura, Palin, and Runyan actually held office

More proof of the right's love affair with celebrities who pander to their side.

As opposed to Al Franken, Heath Shuler, Bill Bradley, John Glenn, Dave Bing (former NBA-er, mayor of Detroit), and Jerry Springer (mayor of Cincinnati)? Or noted thespian and UNDISPUTED STAR of The Dark Knight, Senator Pat "Not Sure If" Leahy (D-VT)? Yeah, no celebrity Democrats here.

Look, I'm not arguing that famous people can't or shouldn't become politicians (or even vice-versa). What I am arguing is that their status as celebrities makes them no more or less fit to hold office than anyone else. Their opinions should be evaluated the same as anyone else's, not given special or hamstrung treatment simply because they have a SAG card.

Yeah, I get that Democrats tend not to elevate crazy celebrities, but remember also that Jeneanne Garofalo, Alec Baldwin, Barbara, and several others hold views outside the mainstream (b-b-b-but 10 years ago!). There is not, historically (last decade-15 years), one side with a monopoly on loudmouth politicos, famous or not.

// the inclusion of Oscar-winner Leahy purely for LULZ

someonelse: tricycleracer: Jack Donaghy for President.

He puts on a tux after 6 pm because what is he, a farmer?

I'd vote for him.

He also drove a rental car into the Hudson just to practice escaping. I'd vote for him as well!

DarwiOdrade: Peter von Nostrand: McManus_brothers: YodaBlues: Peter von Nostrand: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: dittybopper: Mugato: Isn't he the guy who said he'd move to France if Bush got elected?

Isn't he the guy that said Henry Hyde should be stoned to death?

Isn't he the guy from Beetlejuice?

Isn't he the guy that wrecked the Harrow buffet?

Isn't he the guy that thought coffee was for closers?

Isn't he the guy who called his daughter a "thoughtless little pig"?

Isn't he the guy that performed his own ballistics test on a watermelon to prove that the President killed someone?

Isn't he an entertainer, and so instead of attacking him for having a political opinion, shouldn't we be attacking the NY Post for subjecting us to it?

Wasn't he bombed to death along with his brothers by Canada in retaliation for the arrest of Terrence and Phillip?