Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.

Where's that doomsday information leak? I want him to follow up on those threats to bring everything down.

Assange isn't the problem. The main focus should be finding out who, with clearance to this material, is leaking this information out to the public. Taking out Assange does nothing.

spentmiles: Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.


I would agree if the stuff were simply made up. If we actually behaved like the Beacon of Freedom that we present ourselves as, instead of having our Government used as legbreakers and bagmen to Global Corporatists, we might have a reason to whine. We don't.

spentmiles: Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.

Not a US citizen. He wasn't the one who leaked the documents as they were given to him anonymously. The documents were released outside the US to a non-US website. US laws do not apply. Only a Fascist would believe the US laws should apply worldwide. Washington was absolutely correct in the non-entanglement.

deadcrickets: spentmiles: Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.

Not a US citizen. He wasn't the one who leaked the documents as they were given to him anonymously. The documents were released outside the US to a non-US website. US laws do not apply. Only a Fascist would believe the US laws should apply worldwide. Washington was absolutely correct in the non-entanglement.

Fine, US law doesn't apply, but that doesn't mean that US justice shouldn't either. During Vietnam, the US carried out the Phoenix Program which assassinated almost 30,000 Vietcong sympathizers. We are still a nation at war with terrorists whom I sure poured over Assange's publications looking for any and every weakness. I'd say Obama has enough authorization via the Overseas Contingency Operation to call for the strike. But, for some odd reason (foreign ties, ahem), he refuses to defend the US. He'd rather buy off terrorist countries like Pakistan than actually do anything productive.

deadcrickets: spentmiles: Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.

Not a US citizen. He wasn't the one who leaked the documents as they were given to him anonymously. The documents were released outside the US to a non-US website. US laws do not apply. Only a Fascist would believe the US laws should apply worldwide. Washington was absolutely correct in the non-entanglement.

spentmiles is a troll, but, anyways, the laws on espionage don't specify that you have to know who you got the information from. Assange could definitely be charged as an accessory, but to prove it they need to prove WL isn't "press"(which it isn't, it's a file aggregator). The US doesn't have jurisdiction currently, but they could put in an extradition request to the Swedes. The UK won't play that game

spentmiles: deadcrickets: spentmiles: Assange released hundreds of thousands of classified US documents. He outed undercover agents, putting the lives of US citizens at grave risk. His offenses are magnitudes worse than the New York Times treasonous release of the Pentagon Papers. I do not understand why this guy is still on the street. Obama needs to authorize the SEALs to take this guy into custody. If they are unable to kill him outright, then Assange needs to be tried in US federal court for acts of terrorism. He's not some folk hero. He's a danger to US interests both at home and abroad.

Not a US citizen. He wasn't the one who leaked the documents as they were given to him anonymously. The documents were released outside the US to a non-US website. US laws do not apply. Only a Fascist would believe the US laws should apply worldwide. Washington was absolutely correct in the non-entanglement.

Fine, US law doesn't apply, but that doesn't mean that US justice shouldn't either. During Vietnam, the US carried out the Phoenix Program which assassinated almost 30,000 Vietcong sympathizers. We are still a nation at war with terrorists whom I sure poured over Assange's publications looking for any and every weakness. I'd say Obama has enough authorization via the Overseas Contingency Operation to call for the strike. But, for some odd reason (foreign ties, ahem), he refuses to defend the US. He'd rather buy off terrorist countries like Pakistan than actually do anything productive.

I think LOTN called this, "Poe's Law in full effect". Anyone following the situation knows that we aren't exactly getting along with Islamabad right now due in large part to our drone program (and publicly taking out bin Laden in their backyard while they were too busy scratching themselves); "buying off" Pakistan is about the only thing keeping them from supporting their own little Taliban, and it still might not be enough.

BTW Vietnam era assassination strategies are something the US military largely stopped playing with for many good reasons, the most immediate one being that they're farking awful and almost always bite us in the ass.

bhcompy: The US doesn't have jurisdiction currently, but they could put in an extradition request to the Swedes. The UK won't play that game

Mostly because the last UK government came under fire for being complicit in extraordinary renditions and allowing the US to move their "guestages" through British airports. Not the vote-winner you'd hope it to be.

Assange's 15 minutes are up - he talked big but the final score is a big, fat "who cares?" Intelligence agencies acted like dicks, some people got shot who didn't need shooting, and some other people screwed up but mostly got away with it. Hardly government-shattering revelations. Let the courts deal with it all and let them take their time. He's going nowhere: now or ever.

The US is basically toothless at this point. Pakistan's government knowingly protects Osama bin Laden. Al Qaeda captures and holds an American citizen. Iran captures an American drone while continuing its nuclear development program. North Korea continues its deal making with China, blatantly in front of the US. All of this in just the recent months. And what has been our response? Nothing. Nada. Obama is too busy getting re-elected to pay any attention to the world crumbling around him. I can't wait for this election cycle to end so we can get back to kicking the shiat out of these terrorist countries.

spentmiles: The US is basically toothless at this point. Pakistan's government knowingly protects Osama bin Laden. Al Qaeda captures and holds an American citizen. Iran captures an American drone while continuing its nuclear development program. North Korea continues its deal making with China, blatantly in front of the US. All of this in just the recent months. And what has been our response? Nothing. Nada. Obama is too busy getting re-elected to pay any attention to the world crumbling around him. I can't wait for this election cycle to end so we can get back to kicking the shiat out of these terrorist countries.

You need to catch up with "current" events, bub.

/Assange should never be extradited to gitmo.
//don't think he's a hero, either, bub - so no 'apologist' backchat, ja?

spentmiles: Pakistan's government knowingly protects Osama bin Laden.

You could at least keep your copy/paste trolling up to date

spentmiles: I can't wait for this election cycle to end so we can get back to kicking the shiat out of these terrorist countries.

Does he know you that "terrorist country" is something of an oxymoron?

The point of a terrorist group is not to be there when the people with the tanks show up. You can't be a "terrorist country."

Also like how he equates finally assassinating bin Laden to "nothing" since the president from the wrong party did it.

KiplingKat872: Also like how he equates finally assassinating bin Laden to "nothing" since the president from the wrong party did it.

Not trying to feed an obvious troll, but Obama had zero to do with that other than giving the final figurehead order to commence the mission. Nothing more than a ribbon cutting ceremony for him, and I give all the credit to the US Military. I'd much rather have a four-star general running this country right now than a flimsy figure head of the liberal party. Do you think we'd be having problems with Assange, OWS protesters, or all the other riff-raff if General Dempsey was put in charge?

spentmiles: I'd much rather have a four-star general running this country right now than a flimsy figure head of the liberal party. Do you think we'd be having problems with Assange, OWS protesters, or all the other riff-raff if General Dempsey was put in charge?

Obvious troll is obvious.

The democrats are not liberal, but like much of the coutnry you have gone so far right then entire planet looks left to you now.

And as for being ruled by a military junta, why don't you move to Myanmar and see how much fun it is for yourself since you are obviously so unhappy living an an American democracy.

spentmiles raises trolling to a whole new level -- I can't believe he gets bites.

He claims the allegations against him are politically motivated.

Espionage usually is.


I'm curious, though, Does he think that anything he's done has made things better for anyone? (Not including the people whose lives he may have endangered.)

Loadmaster: He claims the allegations against him are politically motivated. Espionage usually is.


I'm curious, though, Does he think that anything he's done has made things better for anyone? (Not including the people whose lives he may have endangered.)

Do you think that the Swedish government has the right to hand him over to be disappeared by the CIA and most certainly lost in Gitmo?

Despite the releasing of documents and endangering hundreds of agent's lives; wouldn't there be good cause to let the US people know that their own government/corporations are purposely trying start shiat with other countries not to mention screwing its own people?

/Feels sorry for those who like to live blindly to the government.
//Trust me, you don't want the U.S government becoming the powerhouse of the world.

Tigger: spentmiles

Were you equally upset by Cheney leaking Mrs. WIlson's identity, or is this just something you do because you didn't get along with your Dad?


If memory serves, she was a desk jockey, not a covert agent.
How would Mr Cheney saying she worked for the CIA blow a cover she didn't have?

bhcompy:
Assange could definitely be charged as an accessory, but to prove it they need to prove WL isn't "press"(which it isn't, it's a file aggregator). The US doesn't have jurisdiction currently, but they could put in an extradition request to the Swedes. The UK won't play that game

Better tell that to the Australian press, as Assange and WikiLeaks were just awarded the Australian equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize, for 'outstanding contributions to the field of journalism.'

Also, there was that whole thing where WikiLeaks partnered with El Pais, Der Seigel, Le Monde, The New York Times, and the Guardian to work on redacting and vetted documents for simulataneous publication by all six news outlets.

Seems pretty journalistic to me.

General Zang: bhcompy:
Assange could definitely be charged as an accessory, but to prove it they need to prove WL isn't "press"(which it isn't, it's a file aggregator). The US doesn't have jurisdiction currently, but they could put in an extradition request to the Swedes. The UK won't play that game

Better tell that to the Australian press, as Assange and WikiLeaks were just awarded the Australian equivalent of the Pulitzer Prize, for 'outstanding contributions to the field of journalism.'

Also, there was that whole thing where WikiLeaks partnered with El Pais, Der Seigel, Le Monde, The New York Times, and the Guardian to work on redacting and vetted documents for simulataneous publication by all six news outlets.

Seems pretty journalistic to me.

Partnered? They gave the documents to those institutions to do their own journalistic work on it. WikiLeaks has done no journalism. Journalism is reporting. WikiLeaks does no reporting. They are given documents, they release documents, occasionally with information redacted. Reporting is something else entirely.