That was beautiful. Sooooo beautiful.

Since all kickers expect to get 'iced', wouldn't the right thing to do be to NOT call a time-out?

And I thought that never worked!

SlothB77: Who was the coach last week or maybe two weeks ago who, oblivious to the fact their opponent was going to botch a kick to avoid a delay of game that would put them out of FG range, called the time out to ice the kicker, but instead gave them time to set it up properly?

Look it up, fool.

/ :)

SlothB77: Who was the coach last week or maybe two weeks ago who, oblivious to the fact their opponent was going to botch a kick to avoid a delay of game that would put them out of FG range, called the time out to ice the kicker, but instead gave them time to set it up properly?

That would be mike shanahan against the cowboys (Tony Romo was trying to call a time out when they had none.)

As a Cowboys fan I have come to expect this type of crap from this team.. Not a ton football sense on the coaching staff. Still I think thy make the playoffs this year for the fact that the NFC east has forgot how to play football.

Didn't see the game. I'm assuming he wasn't just hoping the other team would jump offside?

SlothB77: Who was the coach last week or maybe two weeks ago who, oblivious to the fact their opponent was going to botch a kick to avoid a delay of game that would put them out of FG range, called the time out to ice the kicker, but instead gave them time to set it up properly?

I didn't see that game but I'm trying to figure out how that strategy would successfully play out... The snap holder for a field goal attempt typically lines up seven yards behind the line of scrimmage. Was the intention to hike the ball to the holder and then not kick the ball in order to avoid the delay of game penalty? If so, that would have put them back two further yards than if they took a delay of game penalty.

/Me no understand.

//Nothing new there.

They had a chance to go up 2 games with 4 left to play (including 2 against the Giants). This could cost them a playoff spot the same way that Mike Smith OT call could cost the Falcons.

INeedAName: Didn't see the game. I'm assuming he wasn't just hoping the other team would jump offside?

He thought his team couldn't get the kick off before the play clock ran down. Kicker nailed it as everyone but the snapper, holder and kicker realized the ref's were blowing the whistle.

Next kick was no good from the beginning.

/i lol'd

INeedAName: Didn't see the game. I'm assuming he wasn't just hoping the other team would jump offside?

Watching it in real time, no, that doesn't appear to be the case. It's not unusual for to have long kicks where you would try to draw the defense offsides to get 5 yards closer. Problem is, everyone on the field was treating it as a real kick, as the snap happened, the kick went up, and it was good. Only to get nixed due to the timeout.
Next kick, about 10 yards short, and to the left.

But hey, they have dancers and a big TV in their stadium!

What a goddamn beating of a game.

That game was an atrocity. The expression on Rob Ryan's face at the end of the game was priceless. All rage and confusion.

Towermonkey: The expression on Rob Ryan's face at the end of the game was priceless. All rage and confusion.

So the standard issue Ryan-face?

howdyyall9999: Towermonkey: The expression on Rob Ryan's face at the end of the game was priceless. All rage and confusion. And making a bee-line for the post game buffet.

So the standard issue Ryan-face?

Sean Payton did it to himself a few years ago against Carolina. :(

The real atrocity was the Andy Ried-like clock management before the kick.
They had just completed the pass to Bryant at, what, the 35? with 25 seconds left AND 2 TIMEOUTS!!!
They could have run two more plays for chrissakes and the chance to get them in chip shot range.
I can only imagine the fans in the Dallas area throwing shiat around their homes as this was going on.
farking Garrett.

Panthers fans once wished we had iced our kicker right before a kickoff.

I knew this would make it Fark. I laughed heartily as it happened. My friend was arguing that the purpose of the TO was to give the kicker a practice kick. If so, how'd that work out for ya?

beerrun: The real atrocity was the Andy Ried-like clock management before the kick.
They had just completed the pass to Bryant at, what, the 35? with 25 seconds left AND 2 TIMEOUTS!!!
They could have run two more plays for chrissakes and the chance to get them in chip shot range.
I can only imagine the fans in the Dallas area throwing shiat around their homes as this was going on.
farking Garrett.

This, too. Why are so many head coaches so horribly inept at managing the clock/challenges/etc? It boggles my mind

Submitter must not watch a lot of football. He wasn't even the first coach to do that this year. Vikings coach Leslie Frazier did the same thing to his kicker about a month ago. At least Jason Garret did it for a reason too, Frazier is in over his head as an NFL head coach...

So everyone piles on Jason Garrett for "icing" his own kicker (which was gonna happen anyway. These days, a kicker has to go 2/2 for every single attempt, because you never know if the first will be nullified), but no one piles on him for burning 17 seconds of game clock?

Probably 2 plays' worth of clock (Cowboys had 2 TOs), and >5 yards of field position (no small thing when you're 50+ yards out).

I was watching this in real time wondering WTF JGar was saving them for.

When I see both kicks it looks like he didn't realy try on the second. Just me maybe.

NFC West is brutal this year though, eh Weasel?

/I am Jack's wasted season

GacysBasement: howdyyall9999: Towermonkey: The expression on Rob Ryan's face at the end of the game was priceless. All rage and confusion. And making a bee-line for the post game buffet.

So the standard issue Ryan-face?

No, that's the Andy Reid face. As we established yesterday, he makes such poor decisions in late game situations because he's also trying to decide between the apple or pumpkin pie.

SlothB77: Didn't Joe Gibbs call two timeouts consecutively, which is a penalty, giving his opponent a first down his last year on his second go-around with the 'Skins?

The 15-yard penalty turned a 51-yard FT attempt into a 36-yarder for the Bills.

It's almost like calling timeouts to ice the kicker is completely stupid and pointless, but because it "worked" once coaches will always do it.

AdmirableSnackbar: GacysBasement: howdyyall9999: Towermonkey: The expression on Rob Ryan's face at the end of the game was priceless. All rage and confusion. And making a bee-line for the post game buffet.

So the standard issue Ryan-face?

No, that's the Andy Reid face. As we established yesterday, he makes such poor decisions in late game situations because he's also trying to decide between the apple or pumpkin pie.

Also the Ryan face as they stand there for 15 minutes trying to determine if this is the front or the back of the buffet line.

exick: AdmirableSnackbar: No, that's the Andy Reid face. As we established yesterday, he makes such poor decisions in late game situations because he's also trying to decide between the apple or pumpkin pie.

Which seems weird when you think about it since it's clear that he never actually chooses one.

He only gets the second one if he finishes the first.

cookiefleck: Colin cowherd is basically calling anyone who didn't agree with the play Garrett called an idiot.

Have I mentioned how much I hate that asshole?

Trolls drive ratings on ESPN now. It's really sad.

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: That was beautiful. Sooooo beautiful.

I haven't laughed so hard at a ESPN "day in review" in a long time. Way to go their dumbass. I really hope that makes the Top 10 C'MON MAN list at the end of the year. OUT.farkING.STANDING.

Jason Garrett thought he was out of timeouts. There seemed to be a rush to spike the ball from some players and some seemed to think they were draining time. Jason was informed they in fact did have a timeout after the spike and right before the snap of the final play in regulation and decided he might as well use one.

That is the only thing that makes sense to me.

Elemental79: Jason Garrett thought he was out of timeouts. There seemed to be a rush to spike the ball from some players and some seemed to think they were draining time. Jason was informed they in fact did have a timeout after the spike and right before the snap of the final play in regulation and decided he might as well use one. is a dumb ass.

That is the only thing that makes sense to me.

FTFY

Did Garrett in his post-game presser say he never considered calling a TO before the spike?

That was Reid's response after the Seattle game as he let the Seahawks kill 40seconds at the end of the half.

He even said it was such smuggness as if the question was ridiculous.

crow: Since all kickers expect to get 'iced', wouldn't the right thing to do be to NOT call a time-out?

Jeff Fisher did that a few years ago when he didn't ice a Texans kicker and the Texans kicker missed the field goal

speaking of which, JJ should hire Jeff Fisher

Elemental79: Jason Garrett thought he was out of timeouts. There seemed to be a rush to spike the ball from some players and some seemed to think they were draining time. Jason was informed they in fact did have a timeout after the spike and right before the snap of the final play in regulation and decided he might as well use one.

That is the only thing that makes sense to me.

Except they actually had two timeouts. If he honestly thought he had none when he actually had two, thats a Norv Turner-level of ineptitude.

MugzyBrown: Did Garrett in his post-game presser say he never considered calling a TO before the spike?

That was Reid's response after the Seattle game as he let the Seahawks kill 40seconds at the end of the half.

He even said it was such smuggness as if the question was ridiculous.

To be fair, it was a ridiculous question. At least, the fact that it had to be asked was ridiculous.

You have to imagine Reid was sitting there thinking "These people criticize me when I use too many time outs. Now they're criticizing me for not using a time out. What's their deal?"

If I'm Dan Bailey, I'm pissed that my head coach was content to get just inside my FG range and then just shut it down, forcing to me win this game on my own. If I'm Romo, I'm pissed my own coach apparently didn't trust me and the rest of the offense to get another 10+ yards in over 20 seconds with two timeouts.

If I'm the Giants, I'm suddenly not feeling so bad about losing three straight.

SlothB77: Didn't Joe Gibbs call two timeouts consecutively, which is a penalty, giving his opponent a first down his last year on his second go-around with the 'Skins?

Sexy Rexy made the same mistake yesterday when they were in the red zone.
Not that it mattered anyway.
And didn't Garrett have 2 timeouts left after that completion to the 40? Why not call one, take 2 shots at the sideline, run to spot the ball favorably, then call a timeout with 2 second left?