The Oklahoma state that lost to Iowa State? The Alabama that only lost to the current undefeated #1 LSU?

downstairs: The Oklahoma state that lost to Iowa State? The Alabama that only lost to the current undefeated #1 LSU?

And the title game shouldn't be a rematch, or include a team that didn't win it's conference. The AP voters seem to agree. Last week, Alabama was a clear #2 by 150 votes. This week it's 18.

GAT_00: And the title game shouldn't be a rematch

What if they ARE the best two teams in the nation?

The title game should be between the two best teams. That's what it means.

If you have a logical argument as to why OSU or any other team is better than Alabama, I'm all ears.

downstairs: GAT_00: And the title game shouldn't be a rematch

What if they ARE the best two teams in the nation?

The title game should be between the two best teams. That's what it means.

If you have a logical argument as to why OSU or any other team is better than Alabama, I'm all ears.

LSU didn't get a first down the entire 1st half against Georgia, and had the usual questionable flags go their way whenever a higher ranked SEC team is losing.
Alabama managed all of 6 points against that team and was in serious danger of losing to Georgia Southern for most of the game.
Oklahoma State flattened Oklahoma.

And besides, who wants an incredibly boring National Championship game? We've already watched Alabama-LSU and it sucked. It was by far the most boring game of the year, and that includes some blowouts.

GAT_00: And besides, who wants an incredibly boring National Championship game? We've already watched Alabama-LSU and it sucked. It was by far the most boring game of the year, and that includes some blowouts.

So a game has to be 48-35 for it to be exciting to you? I suppose you also hate 1-0 pitchers duels in baseball?

I watched the OSU OU game, and I could be convinced that it was fixed. OU ball handling was beyond bad, it was comical.

downstairs: GAT_00: And besides, who wants an incredibly boring National Championship game? We've already watched Alabama-LSU and it sucked. It was by far the most boring game of the year, and that includes some blowouts.

So a game has to be 48-35 for it to be exciting to you? I suppose you also hate 1-0 pitchers duels in baseball?

Yes, thank you for going to an absolute extreme on the other end of my comment instead of actually responding to a point I've made. I'm real convinced.

GAT_00: downstairs: GAT_00: And besides, who wants an incredibly boring National Championship game? We've already watched Alabama-LSU and it sucked. It was by far the most boring game of the year, and that includes some blowouts.

So a game has to be 48-35 for it to be exciting to you? I suppose you also hate 1-0 pitchers duels in baseball?

Yes, thank you for going to an absolute extreme on the other end of my comment instead of actually responding to a point I've made. I'm real convinced.

I wasn't responding to anything but your one comment that you don't want a boring game. A San Diego/Arizona NLCS would bore the hell out of me, but it would be silly of me to want MLB to prevent it if they diserve to be there.

Now, to your points...

LSU also blew out Georgia in the SEC Championship. 42 unanswered. I don't care what they did in the first 2 quarters- football is a 4-quarter game.

Alabama managed 6 points in a pretty great defensive game. Again, who cares. They actually hung in there within a field goal against the best team in the nation... into overtime... for their only loss.

OSU got beat by a terrible Iowa State team.

LSU and Alabama are the best two teams in the nation. The end.

OU has had some critical injuries, and it showed last night. This is not the OU of the first half of the season. I still say LSU Alabama for the BCS.

downstairs: If you have a logical argument as to why OSU or any other team is better than Alabama, I'm all ears.

Didn't OSU beat 5 ranked teams this year to Alabama's 3?

And not only are they second in points per game I believe they led FBS in takeaways.

Actually, according to final rankings it seems as if Alabama only beat two teams who ended up in the top 25. And 3 of OSU's wins against top 25 teams were road wins (Texas A&M, Texas and Missouri).

downstairs: What if they ARE the best two teams in the nation?

How would we ever know if they don't play anyone outside their conference?

bighasbeen: downstairs: If you have a logical argument as to why OSU or any other team is better than Alabama, I'm all ears.

Didn't OSU beat 5 ranked teams this year to Alabama's 3?

And not only are they second in points per game I believe they led FBS in takeaways.

Alabama beat 4 ranked teams, and their only loss was to the clear #1. So its really a wash there.

Points per game is meaningless. First of all, its a purely offensive stat. Secondly, every team scheduled gimmie games where they're free to blow people out.

tallguywithglasseson: downstairs: What if they ARE the best two teams in the nation?

How would we ever know if they don't play anyone outside their conference?

Huh? OSU played 3 non-ranked teams out of their conference. Alabama played 2 non-ranked teams plus a pretty good (albiet rape-y) Penn State, which was ranked.

downstairs: Alabama beat 4 ranked teams, and their only loss was to the clear #1. So its really a wash there.

I only care about rankings at the end of the season. They only teams they beat ranked in the top 25 at the end of the season were Arkansas and Penn State.

downstairs: Points per game is meaningless. First of all, its a purely offensive stat. Secondly, every team scheduled gimmie games where they're free to blow people out.

If you take OSU's non conference games out of the equation they are still scoring 49 points a game. I could say that Alabama does the same, schedule gimmie games against teams they know aren't going to score against them.

I hope OSU gets a shot at it and blows LSU out of the water so ISU can be crowned national defacto champs.

- Grew up in Ames. It's like being a Cubs fan.

bighasbeen: If you take OSU's non conference games out of the equation they are still scoring 49 points a game. I could say that Alabama does the same, schedule gimmie games against teams they know aren't going to score against them.

The obvious counterargument here is Alabama putting 42 on Auburn.

Also, I agree with the end of season rankings only mattering. Preseason rankings had Florida State at 6, Ohio State at 18 and Mississippi State at 20. Anyone think those rankings are worth shiat at the end of the season?

downstairs: Huh? OSU played 3 non-ranked teams out of their conference. Alabama played 2 non-ranked teams plus a pretty good (albiet rape-y) Penn State, which was ranked.

Yes, and? Penn State for example was destroyed like 45-7 by Wisconsin, not really as impressive a win as might have seemed at the time.
We already had an SEC regular season championship, another one isn't necessary (I don't care about the "rematch" factor). Maybe the SEC is still the best this year, doesn't mean they shouldn't have to prove it in a title game.

GAT_00: The obvious counterargument here is Alabama putting 42 on Auburn.

Yup, and the counter to that counter is holding OU (who averaged 40 pts a game) to 10.

But what I was inferring is that, using the same logic which says that OSU schedules teams against whom they know they can score gobs of points, Alabama knows that North Texas and Kent State aren't going to put up 17 or 21 points and threaten their defensive ranking.

Greetings and Roll Tide, fellow college football fans.

Being an SEC football fan means thinking the rest of the country orgasms whenever you masturbate.

Anyway, it's looking strongly like Field Goal Bowl II: Electric Boogaloo.

ThisNameSux: Michigan vs Virginia Tech

As much biatching as there is about the championship game, this matchup is a complete disgrace. There are teams out there much better and more deserving than Virginia Tech. It's a money grab, pure and simple.

Wow. I haven't said this in awhile but I have no freaking desire to watch the Championship game.

Enjoy your SEC dominance, peons.