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(Pravda) Interesting Noah's Ark officially found in Turkish mountains. Well, that settles everything once and for all   (english.pravda.ru) divider line 258
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2011-12-04 08:22:42 AM
Except that the Noah's Ark story is so monumentally retarded. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far. It's like Star Wars. The story asks you to believe in the Force and lightsabers and hyperspace and the audience agrees to those things as part of the narrative. Some people complain about sound in space but that's for the audience's benefit, like the musical score. But when that slug thing that can somehow breathe in outer space comes out of that asteroid, that's what conflicts with the internal logic and just takes you out of the story momentarily. Noah's Ark is the space slug of the Bible.
 
2011-12-04 08:41:15 AM
In Pravda? Isn't that basically Russia's version of the Weekly World News?
 
2011-12-04 08:41:41 AM
And it's by Pravda, and that means truth. They have a record in reporting only the finest news, dew picked and flown from Iraq, cleansed in finest quality reporting, lightly edited, and then sealed in a succulent Swiss quintuple smooth treble cream newspaper envelope and lovingly frosted with html.
 
2011-12-04 08:54:55 AM
i235.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-04 08:57:37 AM
I'm not believing any of this until I read it on WhatDoesItMean.com.
 
2011-12-04 09:00:14 AM
FTFA: The search for the Ark still continues.
 
2011-12-04 09:34:28 AM
So its between Judaism, Christianity and Islam now? While the Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists don't care and are going on their merry ways? Ok, that settles things.
 
2011-12-04 09:40:00 AM
Mugato: Except that the Noah's Ark story is so monumentally retarded. Suspension of disbelief only goes so far. It's like Star Wars. The story asks you to believe in the Force and lightsabers and hyperspace and the audience agrees to those things as part of the narrative. Some people complain about sound in space but that's for the audience's benefit, like the musical score. But when that slug thing that can somehow breathe in outer space comes out of that asteroid, that's what conflicts with the internal logic and just takes you out of the story momentarily. Noah's Ark is the space slug of the Bible.

Well that and the talking snake and the parting of the Red Sea and feeding a bunch of people with a little fish and bread and walking on water and turning water into wine and a talking burning bush and Jacob's bovine genetic engineering and fiery sky chariots and resurrection and the talking donkey and...
 
2011-12-04 09:52:19 AM
Assuming the Ark is a TARDIS and that you could house every single species on it and the food and waste that results, it still doesn't explain how Australia got repopulated with animals or why we evolutionary stratification in rocks or why we don't see evidence of the flood literally everywhere or why civilizations that lived on mountains much higher than the one the ark landed on would have perished.
 
2011-12-04 09:59:15 AM
Krymson Tyde: Well that and the talking snake and the parting of the Red Sea and feeding a bunch of people with a little fish and bread and walking on water and turning water into wine and a talking burning bush and Jacob's bovine genetic engineering and fiery sky chariots and resurrection and the talking donkey and...

No but see that falls under the "suspension of disbelief" thing (keeping in mind that I don't believe in any of it), but all the stuff you mentioned falls under "miracles" or magic ie the supernatural. You can chalk all those things up to God waving his magic wand around.

Noah's Ark however, asks us to believe that a regular guy, a drunk no less, traveled the earth, collecting two of every species of animal, including the ones we haven't discovered yet and somehow crammed them all on a boat and did this himself. See the difference? If they would have thrown in a line where God shrunk all the creatures of the earth so that they fit into a bread box and gave it to Noah, then it would be internally consistent with the rest of the whacky shiat we're asked to believe because "God did it".

It's creative writing 101. We believe Superman can fly because he's from Krypton and that's what the story asks us to buy into. But if Jimmy Olsen starts shooting lighting bolts out of his asshole, they'd better explain why.
 
2011-12-04 10:36:57 AM
Seldom have I seen a greater disconnect between headline and article.
 
2011-12-04 10:37:01 AM
PC LOAD LETTER: Assuming the Ark is a TARDIS and that you could house every single species on it and the food and waste that results, it still doesn't explain how Australia got repopulated with animals or why we evolutionary stratification in rocks or why we don't see evidence of the flood literally everywhere or why civilizations that lived on mountains much higher than the one the ark landed on would have perished.

It's simple, Noahs step son, Bruce, built his own ark, and filled it with the stuff Noah didn't want, deadly spiders, snakes, deadly cats, deadly sheep, deadly everything, but he got drunk and the ark sailed off course, and landed in Australia. It's in the Book of Home & Away.
 
2011-12-04 10:37:16 AM
i471.photobucket.com

AM I ON CANDID CAMERA?!
 
2011-12-04 10:37:32 AM
doesn't this story crop up every three months or so?
 
2011-12-04 10:38:38 AM
"Noah's Ark, were you ever officially found in the Turkish mountains?"

wickedmonkeys.com
 
2011-12-04 10:40:20 AM
This is a repeat from every few years for the last few decades. Oddly enough Noah's Ark seems to be found in multiple locations.
 
2011-12-04 10:40:57 AM
Mugato: But when that slug thing that can somehow breathe in outer space comes

THATS where your suspension of disbelief ends? The Space slug??

I always use James Bond in my "You have to accept the premise" arguments.

I buy James Bond. I buy the crazy action stunts, the gadgets, the women just dropping for him. I buy the super villains wanting to take over the world with fantastical weapons and plans. I accept the premise.
I do NOT accept the premise of James Bond in outer space (Moonraker).
THAT is where I lose my suspension of disbelief.
 
2011-12-04 10:41:24 AM
Sighs..not this dumb shiat again. How many times has this been reported now? 6? 7?. The whole concept is retarded. And so are the people who believe it.
 
2011-12-04 10:41:43 AM
Kumana Wanalaia:
doesn't this story crop up every three months or so?

Pretty much. Every bit of firewood found on a mountain in Turkey or every joke piece of wood left is instantly called out as Noah's ark and conclusive proof that the whole bible is correct and you are wrong so nyah nyah nyah. Then the people making the claim go really quiet when they are told the wood is from 1993.
 
2011-12-04 10:42:46 AM
Spock already settled this, a long time ago:

In Search of: Noahs Ark
part 2
part 3
 
2011-12-04 10:43:55 AM
Something something troll thread something something
 
2011-12-04 10:44:09 AM
I've been hearing about this same "discovery" since I was a kid. And I'm 38. I'd say it's a repeat, but this story predates FARK, the web, and most of the Internet.

My main observation about this story is this: In Noah's day, it would have been impossible for one person or one tribe to distinguish between a global flood and a large localized flood. Was there a flood that caused a lot of death? Maybe. I don't know what the topology around there looks like, but it's possible. Was it global? Almost certainly not. Where would all that excess of water come from? Where would it go?
 
2011-12-04 10:44:48 AM
I just wanna know why Noah took along those darn mosquitos...


/ whats a cubit?
 
2011-12-04 10:45:24 AM
buntz: I buy James Bond. I buy the crazy action stunts, the gadgets, the women just dropping for him. I buy the super villains wanting to take over the world with fantastical weapons and plans. I accept the premise.
I do NOT accept the premise of James Bond in outer space (Moonraker).
THAT is where I lose my suspension of disbelief.


I don't accept that everyone knows his name, what he looks like, and they also know he is a spy working for the British Government. shiattiest covert agent ever.
 
2011-12-04 10:45:28 AM
buntz: THATS where your suspension of disbelief ends? The Space slug??

Yes, the space slug. The whole scene with Solo and crew walking outside the ship and the mynocks. Everything else more or less fits within the confines of the internal consistency.
 
2011-12-04 10:47:28 AM
The newest info in the article is from December 1986. Is Pravda re-releasing articles from the soviet era?
 
2011-12-04 10:47:40 AM
Elliot Gould was a lot more lost than we had thought.

www.thefancarpet.com
 
2011-12-04 10:48:33 AM
Mugato: Krymson Tyde: Well that and the talking snake and the parting of the Red Sea and feeding a bunch of people with a little fish and bread and walking on water and turning water into wine and a talking burning bush and Jacob's bovine genetic engineering and fiery sky chariots and resurrection and the talking donkey and...

No but see that falls under the "suspension of disbelief" thing (keeping in mind that I don't believe in any of it), but all the stuff you mentioned falls under "miracles" or magic ie the supernatural. You can chalk all those things up to God waving his magic wand around.

Noah's Ark however, asks us to believe that a regular guy, a drunk no less, traveled the earth, collecting two of every species of animal, including the ones we haven't discovered yet and somehow crammed them all on a boat and did this himself. See the difference? If they would have thrown in a line where God shrunk all the creatures of the earth so that they fit into a bread box and gave it to Noah, then it would be internally consistent with the rest of the whacky shiat we're asked to believe because "God did it".

It's creative writing 101. We believe Superman can fly because he's from Krypton and that's what the story asks us to buy into. But if Jimmy Olsen starts shooting lighting bolts out of his asshole, they'd better explain why.


Don't forget this drunkard is claimed to have been 500-600 years old when he build the damn thing. And, assuming Noah wasn't an ancient Mrs.Cleo, he would have built it in 7 days from the day god told him it would start raining. Others claim he had 100-120 years to build it because the bible doesn't clearly state he started building it when god told him about the rains, but long before.
 
2011-12-04 10:48:54 AM
Kumana Wanalaia: doesn't this story crop up every three months or so?

It's actually about every 3 years, but yeah.

Did not RTFA but the current guy looking for has basically admitted the whole thing is a scam, but people keep sending him money and giving him press.
 
2011-12-04 10:48:59 AM
Again?
 
2011-12-04 10:51:09 AM
Mugato: No but see that falls under the "suspension of disbelief" thing (keeping in mind that I don't believe in any of it), but all the stuff you mentioned falls under "miracles" or magic ie the supernatural. You can chalk all those things up to God waving his magic wand around.

Noah's Ark however, asks us to believe that a regular guy, a drunk no less, traveled the earth, collecting two of every species of animal, including the ones we haven't discovered yet and somehow crammed them all on a boat and did this himself. See the difference? If they would have thrown in a line where God shrunk all the creatures of the earth so that they fit into a bread box and gave it to Noah, then it would be internally consistent with the rest of the whacky shiat we're asked to believe because "God did it".

It's creative writing 101. We believe Superman can fly because he's from Krypton and that's what the story asks us to buy into. But if Jimmy Olsen starts shooting lighting bolts out of his asshole, they'd better explain why.


This is excellent. I hadn't thought about it like this before.
 
2011-12-04 10:51:16 AM
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2011-12-04 10:51:53 AM
Still, somebody will use this as proof that the Bible is 100% true and all you (us) atheists and muslins and boodists and hindoos can just suck on Jesus' dick! Science finally gets something right, even though there's not a shred of science involved.
 
2011-12-04 10:54:01 AM
Fuggin Bizzy: Maybe. I don't know what the topology around there looks like, but it's possible. Was it global? Almost certainly not. Where would all that excess of water come from? Where would it go?

There's an Ancient Aliens mini marathon on the History Channel right now.

PROOF! (new window)
 
2011-12-04 10:54:16 AM
It belongs in a museum!.
 
2011-12-04 10:57:32 AM
Oops. Looks like I'm wrong. Turns out the Grand Canyon was created by the flood.

Oh well.
 
2011-12-04 10:59:53 AM
i.r.id10t: whats a cubit?

About 18".
 
2011-12-04 11:00:24 AM
Aquapope: Still, somebody will use this as proof that the Bible is 100% true and all you (us) atheists and muslins and boodists and hindoos can just suck on Jesus' dick!

That's one of the things that always seems weird to me about these "Noah's Ark discoveries", actually. Even if they actually found the real thing, and even if it proved the story was completely true, what does it have to do with Christianity? It might prove Judaism, sure, but it has nothing at all to do with the story of Jesus.
 
2011-12-04 11:00:27 AM
bionicjoe: Fuggin Bizzy: Maybe. I don't know what the topology around there looks like, but it's possible. Was it global? Almost certainly not. Where would all that excess of water come from? Where would it go?

There's an Ancient Aliens mini marathon on the History Channel right now.

PROOF! (new window)


Ancient Aliens makes more sense than believing this crap as literally true.
 
2011-12-04 11:00:38 AM
That can't be right. I had a true Christian tell me a while ago that it had already been found but the evil Muslim government of Turkey was suppressing the find and preventing any further work at the site because of their hatred of Christians and Jews.

(Since Muslims are "people of the book" (old testament) isn't the Ark part of their heritage also?)
 
2011-12-04 11:01:04 AM
CygnusDarius: It belongs in a museum!.

It bothers me that I live an hour from the Creation Museum and that they are a customer of my company.
 
2011-12-04 11:02:52 AM
HairBolus: That can't be right. I had a true Christian tell me a while ago that it had already been found but the evil Muslim government of Turkey was suppressing the find and preventing any further work at the site because of their hatred of Christians and Jews.

(Since Muslims are "people of the book" (old testament) isn't the Ark part of their heritage also?)


Yes it is. Both Abraham and Noah are very respected and revered to the Muslim faith.
 
2011-12-04 11:05:31 AM
bionicjoe: CygnusDarius: It belongs in a museum!.

It bothers me that I live an hour from the Creation Museum and that they are a customer of my company.


I know, right? Where is our Athiest Museum at?
 
2011-12-04 11:05:59 AM
Mugato:
Noah's Ark however, asks us to believe that a regular guy, a drunk no less, traveled the earth, collecting two of every species of animal, including the ones we haven't discovered yet and somehow crammed them all on a boat and did this himself.


The talking point here is "nyah-nyah, the Bible doesn't SAY he travelled the earth and collected the animals himself; it's more likely that the Good Lord sent the animals in pairs to HIM". No really, I've heard that.
 
2011-12-04 11:06:54 AM
Came for the Bill Cosby bit references, leaving satisfied.

/How long can you tread water?
//Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
 
2011-12-04 11:07:17 AM
Atheism is a Religion.

If someone happens to have no faith in a Creator, then the word 'atheist' is simply a descriptor or an attribute. Those who take on Atheist as an identity in itself can universally be regarded as smarmy, conceited, and belligerent tossers. This thread bears those facts out plainly.

The motivations for the Schoolboy Atheist are generally anger and resentment. Those who simply had no faith would have no interest in such discussions. It's safe to say that the common heathen just doesn't care -- but these lads here? They have serious mommy and daddy issues.
 
2011-12-04 11:09:03 AM
Noah's ark was smaller then the Titanic and yet somehow - and even more laughable, it had no air vent for ventilating the combined exhaust of millions of mamals waster. If you can suspend your disbelief on a lot of these issues, you realize that most of these Xtian "archaelogists" are claiming to have found the ark at 14,000 ft on Mt. Ararat. According to the biblical account, Noah and his family and all of these millions of animals were on the ark for 372 days - with the ark resting on the mountain in the "7th month". So tell me how is it possible that none of these people/mammals on the ark made it for 5.5 months at 14,000' with no altitude sickness?

How about room for all the food these animals require - many of them are carnivores - and while the Old Testament describes in great detail how much god loves blood, somehow he magically makes them all herbivores for the entire trip... or other xtian theories are many were in hibernation and young - still you can't fit millions of animals and insects and birds and freshwater fish in a boat which by biblical description is smaller than the Titanic.

The Bible is full of these little untruths which when combined together show us a book that is certainly not divine and filled with error. So Xtians keep moving the goalposts as science calls out their bullshiat...
 
2011-12-04 11:09:24 AM
I think Jesus is on the record in the new testament as saying that everything in the old Testament is true, so if you believe in Jesus and his word, you also have to buy into the whole ark thing. So anything that shores up the ark myth makes it easier to be a Christian and stlii maintain some intellectual credability.
 
2011-12-04 11:09:55 AM
I'm getting a kick out of this. Decades ago I used to be a graphics person at a print shop. One of my projects was to create marketing materials for a guy who was looking for investors to pay for him to find the ark then chop it up and sell the pieces. The guy dropped a couple grand having these things look expensive, but then again he was asking for a minimum of $25,000 per share to invest. He used the same image that's used in this story.
 
2011-12-04 11:10:57 AM
I remember a TV show about where the Noah's Ark story might have come from. It's basic premise was that the black sea was originally just a low area. Then at some point the Mediterranean sea level rose and broke down the land separating it and the black sea. People in that area could easily have thought the whole world was flooding. Interesting show but I can't remember where I saw it.
 
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