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(Herald Tribune) Florida Smoking crack, passing counterfeit money, smacking up juvies, spitting on arrestees, cracking heads open -- just another day in the life of corrupt untouchable cops in the great state of Florida   (heraldtribune.com) divider line 148
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2011-12-04 06:52:23 AM
Oh wait -- it gets better. Here's a timeline for Sgt. Chokesondick's misbehavior -- this is unbe-frickin-lievable:

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20111204/ARTICLE/111139974/241 6 (pops)

FTFA: January 2004: A man says Bosque head-butted him while he was handcuffed in a chair. A corporal in a nearby room hears Bosque and the man arguing and tells colleagues: "You know, in a minute you're gonna hear Bosque slap him." They then heard a smack and the man crying. Bosque suffers a jagged, crescent-shaped wound on his head that requires six stitches. Bosque claims that he was the one attacked but investigators determine the wound was caused by Bosque's head striking the man's bottom teeth. The battery complaint is sustained. Prosecutors do not charge Bosque and the punishment, if any, is not stated in city documents.

This is like out of a Roger Corman movie.
 
2011-12-04 07:46:31 AM
Holy sh*t ! I'm sure there is a great deal of frustration with being a cop but he should not be in any position of power. If there are that many complaints registered against him the number of people that were too frightened to come forward is substantially higher.
 
2011-12-04 08:30:36 AM
Tip of the iceberg, so much more is unreported!
Like most other police departments they cover their own,
 
2011-12-04 08:37:22 AM
Cool he let the open container thing fly.
 
2011-12-04 08:40:33 AM
Holy crap...This is amazing...
 
2011-12-04 08:44:58 AM
Your hero first responders at work, just doing their jobs.

I think people are starting to realize what the Police Officers job actually is. It certainly has less to do with protecting and serving, and more to do with making sure people remain too terrified to challenge authority, even when that authority is acting in a criminally dangerous manner. We are not being protected, we are being occupied.

Strap on your jackboots and start practicing that goosestep.
 
SH
2011-12-04 08:51:29 AM
What is this officer's email address?

I'd like to give him hell.
 
2011-12-04 08:51:33 AM
Note to self: Avoid Opa-Locka, FL any police officer at all costs.
 
2011-12-04 08:52:32 AM
AbbeySomeone: Holy sh*t ! I'm sure there is a great deal of frustration with being a cop but he should not be in any position of power. If there are that many complaints registered against him the number of people that were too frightened to come forward is substantially higher.

Lots of jobs are frustrating.

If you ( no not you specifically ) can't handle the frustration of being a cop you need to find another job.

There are some parts of the job that are exceptionally easy compared to a lot of other jobs that require constant physical exertion. I use to see the cops in NYC sitting in their cars watching tv on those little hand held units.
 
2011-12-04 08:55:56 AM
Honestly what do the cops do anymore?
The neighbors got robbed, cops showed up, gave them attitude, hit on their teenage daughter, and handed them a piece of paper and said good luck.

That same house (different owners) happened to be growing 8 plants in the attic, that brought helicopters, SUV's, machine guns, dogs and lots of yelling.

Honestly if you're in dire dire trouble, the cops are usually too late to do anything about it.

I realize if we got rid of cops, crime would certainly go up, late night burglary and the such, but businesses have insurance for that (I think it may even be required to have such insurance).

If we got rid of cops we would - be able to drive any speed we want, and smoke anything we want, that wouldn't be so bad.

Actually wait, cops are good, without them I might have to look at some dirty hippies camping in a park on my way to scamming people out of their money at my job as a stock trader.
 
2011-12-04 08:56:33 AM
Just stay the fark away from the south. As america becomes more and more nazi like do you really think it's smart to live in the more reactionary areas ofthe country.
 
2011-12-04 08:57:54 AM
I've said it before: We're safer without cops.
 
2011-12-04 09:01:07 AM
Jamieboy: Note to self: Avoid Opa-Locka, FL any police officer at all costs.

Ever been down Ali-Baba Ave. lately? My buddy has a shop right across from the police station. Every street crime imaginable is happening right there.
 
2011-12-04 09:08:53 AM
I am sure our Conservative friends will join is in the fight to take down these corrupt police unions, right?

I mean you do hate corruption and unions, right?

RIGHT?!
 
2011-12-04 09:11:41 AM
Deathfrogg: Your hero first responders at work, just doing their jobs.

I think people are starting to realize what the Police Officers job actually is. It certainly has less to do with protecting and serving, and more to do with making sure people remain too terrified to challenge authority, even when that authority is acting in a criminally dangerous manner. We are not being protected, we are being occupied.

Strap on your jackboots and start practicing that goosestep.


Society in general has gotten out of hand with the glorification of folks in positions of authority. That goes for military, police, and cabinet members. There are rotten eggs in all of them.

Yes, even the military, where gangbangers have started going to escape retaliation from attacks or heat, only to return to the streets after their tour and bring back all of the wonderful tactical training provided by Uncle Sam.
 
2011-12-04 09:15:11 AM
Seeing as the AG and Justice Department are busy laundering millions in drug cartel money, I don't think anybody has the time, interest or inclination to bother investigating or prosecuting their lesser brothers in blue for their relatively amateurish antics. Move on citizen. Nothing to see here...

Remember, in the eyes of law enforcement, we're all guilty of something and it is the duty of our police and prosecutors to find it and punish it when you become inconvenient or it expedites their career advancement.
 
2011-12-04 09:16:58 AM
Can't I "stand my ground" against him now, according to Florida law?
 
2011-12-04 09:17:41 AM
He says he is respectful to civilians

*sigh*... Once again, cops are civilians, too. Perpetuating the myth that they aren't just builds a culture of us against them. We're all civilians here. Stop trying to put yourselves up on a pedestal.
 
2011-12-04 09:19:32 AM
Sheriff Joe has a job opportunity when he leaves Arizona.
 
2011-12-04 09:25:55 AM
Fecacacophany: Seeing as the AG and Justice Department are busy laundering millions in drug cartel money, I don't think anybody has the time, interest or inclination to bother investigating or prosecuting their lesser brothers in blue for their relatively amateurish antics. Move on citizen. Nothing to see here...

Remember, in the eyes of law enforcement, we're all guilty of something and it is the duty of our police and prosecutors to find it and punish it when you become inconvenient or it expedites their career advancement.


www.blogcdn.com

I remember watching this movie finding all this science fiction stuff quite entertaining...Never thought it'd actually start to come true...
 
2011-12-04 09:30:45 AM
Honest Bender: He says he is respectful to civilians

*sigh*... Once again, cops are civilians, too. Perpetuating the myth that they aren't just builds a culture of us against them. We're all civilians here. Stop trying to put yourselves up on a pedestal.


Cops are different "civilians". In NYC, for example, an officer is ALWAYS an officer when off duty. They MUST be armed and carry credentials and intercede when they witness a crime while within NYC when off-duty. That's one of the big motivations to move out of the city to the suburbs up north, and why most NYPD cops don't live there. They're issued guns, given the authority to arrest, and have the implicit trust of judges and prosecutors. They're also buddies with the cops you'll call to stop them. If they want to put 50+ holes in your body, that's their choice. They'll find a reason for it after the fact.
 
2011-12-04 09:38:00 AM
At first I was all that has to be a repeat of the story from yesterday, then I looked a little closer at the headline and became very sad for America
 
2011-12-04 09:39:10 AM
They can't even get Dexter.
 
2011-12-04 09:39:14 AM
DeathByGeekSquad: Deathfrogg: Your hero first responders at work, just doing their jobs.

I think people are starting to realize what the Police Officers job actually is. It certainly has less to do with protecting and serving, and more to do with making sure people remain too terrified to challenge authority, even when that authority is acting in a criminally dangerous manner. We are not being protected, we are being occupied.

Strap on your jackboots and start practicing that goosestep.

Society in general has gotten out of hand with the glorification of folks in positions of authority. That goes for military, police, and cabinet members. There are rotten eggs in all of them.

Yes, even the military, where gangbangers have started going to escape retaliation from attacks or heat, only to return to the streets after their tour and bring back all of the wonderful tactical training provided by Uncle Sam.


I do not disagree with you. The Military is a necessary aspect of any national structure. We need to have the ability to protect ourselves from aggressive action on the part of foreign nations with their eyes on our national wealth or political influence in the world.

But worshiping that military, and allowing it to influence domestic policy as if it is some sort of treasure unto itself is too much like the guy in that upstairs apartment who caresses his gun and spends his free time thinking about all the things he could use it for, if he only had total freedom to do so. The guy who thinks that the ability of enforce his personal will on others is the only measure of influence he needs to make himself free from the personal will of others.

The inner city gangbanger, the African thug in Congo, the Klansman, the hill dwelling tribesman in Central Asia. They are all crazy people. They see no other source of personal liberty as that liberty is based on their own ability to take the lives and liberties of the people around them. To hurt people is their base desire. To force them to obey.

Sadists. They are no different in mind from Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahlmer. This is why we keep our Military on a civilian leash. Otherwise, we are no different from Pakistan or Afghanistan. Allow crazy people have deadly weapons, and they will use them to take from people. Lives, property and the ability to influence the people around them. Hitler proved that, as did Stalin, Pol Pot and Custer.
 
GBB
2011-12-04 09:40:51 AM
... and all IT professionals are nothing more than pissed off nerds that will hack into everyone's email, spy on their browsing habits, and steal your credit card information...
 
2011-12-04 09:45:03 AM
A lot of incompetence had to merge to allow this guy to exist as a cop. First, he's an unqualified, evil bully that got hired after two other agencies turned him down. Next, he works for a city that has no tax base and can only afford to hire the castaways that would never be hired by any other agency. For that reason the department lacks competent leadership and has no consistent and effective disciplinary process in place. When they have fired this guy, they failed to follow proper procedures and the guy gets his job back. Finally, the state has failed over and over again to take proper action against his certification. His certification should be revoked permanently. How does that happen?

In addition, his agency has continuously failed to take effective action against him. Why wasn't he charged criminally in several of those cases? Even when his fellow officers made complaints against him the discipline was too light or non-existent. Again, this is likely the result of only being able to afford to hire those who would not be qualified to work elsewhere.

Sadly, as usual some Farkers will accept this guy, the worst of the worst, as representative of all cops. All I ask is that you keep in mind that many of this guy's problems arose when he was turned in or arrested by fellow cops. Those cops probable got frustrated and moved on to better agencies, leaving new openings for unqualified people to be hired as cops in Opa Locka.
 
2011-12-04 09:55:47 AM
Deathfrogg: Your hero first responders at work, just doing their jobs.

I think people are starting to realize what the Police Officers job actually is. It certainly has less to do with protecting and serving, and more to do with making sure people remain too terrified to challenge authority, even when that authority is acting in a criminally dangerous manner. We are not being protected, we are being occupied.

Strap on your jackboots and start practicing that goosestep.


Quis ipsos custodiet custodes.

Yes, I realize this is straw man; jackbooted thuggery exists nevertheless.

What should we do? Grassroots Fark protests, all invited? Sure as shiat calling/writing the monstrous political industrial complex won't work.

I'm all for law and order policing (by which I mean police protecting us from crimes against persons and investigating/prosecuting such crimes), but there are so many politically motivated "crimes" on the books law enforcement has turned into us against the Man. I've had enough. And I'm not even a liberal! Actually I am, but in the Locke, Mill, Bentham fashion.

Come on, Farkers are an intelligent, diverse community (excepting the batshiatcrazies) -- surely we can come up with something to fix the political system which enables jackbootery.

I think we can come to some kind of compromise that no one likes, but no one really hates (analogous to Dont ask don't tell - you know, where the righties can pretend gays don't exist in the military while the rest of us know the truth [and yes, I do think we have reached a place where the policy had reached the end of its usefulness] -- the point is no o e was really happy with the policy, but it allowed us all to get along).

This turned into more of a rant than I wanted.

Any ideas?
 
2011-12-04 10:02:20 AM
CruiserTwelve: A lot of incompetence had to merge to allow this guy to exist as a cop. First, he's an unqualified, evil bully that got hired after two other agencies turned him down. Next, he works for a city that has no tax base and can only afford to hire the castaways that would never be hired by any other agency. For that reason the department lacks competent leadership and has no consistent and effective disciplinary process in place. When they have fired this guy, they failed to follow proper procedures and the guy gets his job back. Finally, the state has failed over and over again to take proper action against his certification. His certification should be revoked permanently. How does that happen?

In addition, his agency has continuously failed to take effective action against him. Why wasn't he charged criminally in several of those cases? Even when his fellow officers made complaints against him the discipline was too light or non-existent. Again, this is likely the result of only being able to afford to hire those who would not be qualified to work elsewhere.

Sadly, as usual some Farkers will accept this guy, the worst of the worst, as representative of all cops. All I ask is that you keep in mind that many of this guy's problems arose when he was turned in or arrested by fellow cops. Those cops probable got frustrated and moved on to better agencies, leaving new openings for unqualified people to be hired as cops in Opa Locka.


This would mean a lot more if the state police agencies/certification board hadn't kept NOT revoking his certification. His local employment doesn't matter if the higher-ups with the power to do stuff continually let it slide. If there is no accountabillity up to the highest ranks, how do you expect people to react to this shiat?
 
2011-12-04 10:04:56 AM
@ CruiserTwelve:

I wonder if this isn't just a matter of funding really. The town sounds like a seriously poor town. Likely the top echelons of Government there make high salaries and the lower level functions of Government are left to the scraps. A poorly funded government organization or private company or any organization that has little extra money for things like training, scrutiny and supervision will always go to shiat in the quality of the work performed by the whole organization. They hire the cheapest labor and the cheapest equipment. They hire anyone with a heartbeat and a pair of hands.

I've seen in in action. I worked for a company that paid its machinists and welders pretty good money for a while. But then the owner hired this super dickhead beancounter type to supervise costs, and they fired nearly every welder, and all the machinists but myself and the lead. They then hired a bunch of yahoos who couldn't fit for shiat, couldn't hardly read a tape measure and the guys they kept foisting on us in the machine shop could not read a micrometer or even a pair of digital calipers without constant adult supervision.

The owner of the company was able to start doing for himself more, expensive cars, bigger house on a larger property, long vacations in Mexico etc, and leaving the various departments that actually did the work to twist in the wind. We started running out of inserts on a regular basis, the weld department was down to two welding machines for several months and they would not replace them. People started getting hurt. The scrap rate increased by several orders of magnitude. The equipment damage got to ridiculous levels because the people being hired knew nothing and cared nothing for maintenance or proper use.

The quality of the work became so bad that I and the machine shop lead both quit about a week apart, and the company, while still in business is considered a bad joke by the people who were buying the product. It used to be the "go-to" shop for the type of product it sold. Now, the only business they get is from those customers who don't give a damn about quality, so long as they can get it cheaper than anywhere else. Mostly grey market and the same sort of idiots running the company I worked for.

Sad really. But the owner is happy. He gets to live by himself with his house on the lake, and his Ford GT, and his second house up on the ski slopes and his beachfront condo in Hawaii.
 
2011-12-04 10:12:41 AM
Bob16: Just stay the fark away from the south. As america becomes more and more nazi like do you really think it's smart to live in the more reactionary areas ofthe country.

Yeah northern cities have no police corruption. Riight.
 
2011-12-04 10:14:48 AM
The police should be like GE: they should have to fire 10% of the work force every year. Just because.
 
2011-12-04 10:17:05 AM
CruiserTwelve: A lot of incompetence had to merge to allow this guy to exist as a cop. First, he's an unqualified, evil bully that got hired after two other agencies turned him down. Next, he works for a city that has no tax base and can only afford to hire the castaways that would never be hired by any other agency. For that reason the department lacks competent leadership and has no consistent and effective disciplinary process in place. When they have fired this guy, they failed to follow proper procedures and the guy gets his job back. Finally, the state has failed over and over again to take proper action against his certification. His certification should be revoked permanently. How does that happen?

In addition, his agency has continuously failed to take effective action against him. Why wasn't he charged criminally in several of those cases? Even when his fellow officers made complaints against him the discipline was too light or non-existent. Again, this is likely the result of only being able to afford to hire those who would not be qualified to work elsewhere.

Sadly, as usual some Farkers will accept this guy, the worst of the worst, as representative of all cops. All I ask is that you keep in mind that many of this guy's problems arose when he was turned in or arrested by fellow cops. Those cops probable got frustrated and moved on to better agencies, leaving new openings for unqualified people to be hired as cops in Opa Locka.


That dude wasn't worst of the worst. Not even close. Most of those things are average police activity.
 
2011-12-04 10:18:28 AM
DarkAvised: Deathfrogg: Your hero first responders at work, just doing their jobs.

I think people are starting to realize what the Police Officers job actually is. It certainly has less to do with protecting and serving, and more to do with making sure people remain too terrified to challenge authority, even when that authority is acting in a criminally dangerous manner. We are not being protected, we are being occupied.

Strap on your jackboots and start practicing that goosestep.

Quis ipsos custodiet custodes.

Yes, I realize this is straw man; jackbooted thuggery exists nevertheless.

What should we do? Grassroots Fark protests, all invited? Sure as shiat calling/writing the monstrous political industrial complex won't work.

I'm all for law and order policing (by which I mean police protecting us from crimes against persons and investigating/prosecuting such crimes), but there are so many politically motivated "crimes" on the books law enforcement has turned into us against the Man. I've had enough. And I'm not even a liberal! Actually I am, but in the Locke, Mill, Bentham fashion.

Come on, Farkers are an intelligent, diverse community (excepting the batshiatcrazies) -- surely we can come up with something to fix the political system which enables jackbootery.

I think we can come to some kind of compromise that no one likes, but no one really hates (analogous to Dont ask don't tell - you know, where the righties can pretend gays don't exist in the military while the rest of us know the truth [and yes, I do think we have reached a place where the policy had reached the end of its usefulness] -- the point is no o e was really happy with the policy, but it allowed us all to get along).

This turned into more of a rant than I wanted.

Any ideas?


Drew for Prez?!?
 
2011-12-04 10:20:23 AM
sno man:
Drew for Prez?!?


Only if he promises to buy the beer.
 
2011-12-04 10:25:23 AM
Untouchable?

Oh, I dunno. Seems like it's getting time to pay attention to ole Thomas Jefferson's Tree of Liberty cultivation techniques.

images.cheezburger.com
 
2011-12-04 10:25:46 AM
redmid17: This would mean a lot more if the state police agencies/certification board hadn't kept NOT revoking his certification. His local employment doesn't matter if the higher-ups with the power to do stuff continually let it slide. If there is no accountabillity up to the highest ranks, how do you expect people to react to this shiat?

You've repeated one of my points. Yes, this guy was somehow able to retain his certification even after repeated violations. How does that happen? Any single one of those violations should have resulted in loss of certification. Heck, at one point they took no action because his certification was already suspended. THAT should have been a friggin' clue and they should have made his loss of certification permanent.

This guy is the product of incompetence at every level. Fortunately he's an anomaly.
 
2011-12-04 10:26:12 AM
What I have noticed with most police forces are they tend to reflect the areas and people they police. Po dunk hick towns have hick drunk cops.
 
2011-12-04 10:30:13 AM
CruiserTwelve: redmid17: This would mean a lot more if the state police agencies/certification board hadn't kept NOT revoking his certification. His local employment doesn't matter if the higher-ups with the power to do stuff continually let it slide. If there is no accountabillity up to the highest ranks, how do you expect people to react to this shiat?

You've repeated one of my points. Yes, this guy was somehow able to retain his certification even after repeated violations. How does that happen? Any single one of those violations should have resulted in loss of certification. Heck, at one point they took no action because his certification was already suspended. THAT should have been a friggin' clue and they should have made his loss of certification permanent.

This guy is the product of incompetence at every level. Fortunately he's an anomaly.


If there's incompetence at every level, who the fark is supposed to do their job properly? Do you see where I am going with this?
 
2011-12-04 10:34:48 AM
Rozotorical: That dude wasn't worst of the worst. Not even close. Most of those things are average police activity.

Yeah. That's why they wrote a feature article about him. Because he's just your average cop on your average police department...
 
2011-12-04 10:36:17 AM
CruiserTwelve: redmid17: This would mean a lot more if the state police agencies/certification board hadn't kept NOT revoking his certification. His local employment doesn't matter if the higher-ups with the power to do stuff continually let it slide. If there is no accountabillity up to the highest ranks, how do you expect people to react to this shiat?

You've repeated one of my points. Yes, this guy was somehow able to retain his certification even after repeated violations. How does that happen? Any single one of those violations should have resulted in loss of certification. Heck, at one point they took no action because his certification was already suspended. THAT should have been a friggin' clue and they should have made his loss of certification permanent.

This guy is the product of incompetence at every level. Fortunately he's an anomaly.


Anomaly -One that is peculiar, irregular, abnormal, or difficult to classify

I think you may have used the wrong word. I think you were looking for average. As in this is the average level of corruption found in most law enforcement agencies.
 
2011-12-04 10:38:36 AM
CruiserTwelve: Rozotorical: That dude wasn't worst of the worst. Not even close. Most of those things are average police activity.

Yeah. That's why they wrote a feature article about him. Because he's just your average cop on your average police department...


No it is an expose behind the blue line. The dude didn't murder people for hire. He didn't smuggle tons of heroin or coke. No gang-rapes on duty. He didn't smuggle large amounts of weapons. Those were pretty run of the mill corruption charges.
 
2011-12-04 10:39:17 AM
This sounds like Bad Lieutenant.
 
2011-12-04 10:40:03 AM
redmid17: If there's incompetence at every level, who the fark is supposed to do their job properly? Do you see where I am going with this?

Exactly. How do you think his fellow cops feel? They turn the guy in and even arrest him, and not only is he still on the job, he's a damn supervisor. How do you stop the cycle of incompetency? Hire a qualified chief that will fire him properly so he doesn't get his job back? They can't afford to hire such a chief and the city council is probably too incompetent to do that anyhow. I suppose it will finally take a federal civil rights violation to get this guy what he deserves, and maybe the feds will take over the police department like they have in other places.
 
2011-12-04 10:42:04 AM
Rozotorical: I think you may have used the wrong word. I think you were looking for average. As in this is the average level of corruption found in most law enforcement agencies.

Really? I've been a cop for over 38 years and I haven't seen this. Where do you get your information?
 
2011-12-04 10:45:55 AM
CruiserTwelve: Rozotorical: I think you may have used the wrong word. I think you were looking for average. As in this is the average level of corruption found in most law enforcement agencies.

Really? I've been a cop for over 38 years and I haven't seen this. Where do you get your information?


Living in cities and towns with other poor people.
 
2011-12-04 10:47:14 AM
redmid17:
If there's incompetence at every level, who the fark is supposed to do their job properly? Do you see where I am going with this?


Remember Frank Serpico? He tried this. He came into the NYC police with the idea that he was going to be a good cop. That protecting people from criminals and saving lives and being that strong will against evil was something he had aspired to since he was a kid. What he found out, and I suspect this is still the case in many departments around the country, is that an awful lot of that evil is based not on the institution, but the people working within it. He noticed that a large percentage of the criminal activity was being conducted by his fellow officers. He went into it thinking that a Cop was a Cop because they were above that level of evil. That the people he'd be working with were a better class of folks. When he discovered this to not be the case, he rocked the boat, snitched on the criminals in his organization, and was shot and vilified for his troubles.

I don't think most folks want to have to be the guy that wants to be held up as the asshole in an organization, when the organization is already so full of assholes that nothing can be made to change without destroying the institution. Most folks want to just do the job, without having to constantly defend themselves from the people who use the organization to enrich themselves or freely practice their sadistic tendencies.

Get all the sadists and criminals out of the Police Department, and what is left to hire is too expensive or too moral for that local Government to use effectively in its own power structure. Criminals can be blackmailed. Sadists can be directed to use their sadism in almost any way you can think of, because they like to hurt people. And an awful lot of sadists end up as Police Officers.
 
2011-12-04 10:47:40 AM
CruiserTwelve: Rozotorical: I think you may have used the wrong word. I think you were looking for average. As in this is the average level of corruption found in most law enforcement agencies.

Really? I've been a cop for over 38 years and I haven't seen this. Where do you get your information?


I know you are the super best cop evaaaar! You also argued for the cops in OK who pulled over that ambulance driver about 18 months back. So I know you are not exactly honest about what exactly is good police work.
 
2011-12-04 10:50:05 AM
tomWright: Untouchable?

Oh, I dunno. Seems like it's getting time to pay attention to ole Thomas Jefferson's Tree of Liberty cultivation techniques.

[images.cheezburger.com image 500x312]


gonna start happening soon I imagine.
 
2011-12-04 10:56:45 AM
Rozotorical: Living in cities and towns with other poor people.

I see. Do you think this guy is representative of me?
 
2011-12-04 10:58:30 AM
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