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(Detroit News)   Detroit mother of six trades house for minivan. "I lost a friend over this. She felt my decision made me look bad"   (detnews.com) divider line 78
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2011-12-04 01:50:37 AM
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2011-12-04 01:51:06 AM
Sounds like a pretty smart trade-up.
 
2011-12-04 01:51:14 AM
This is a very strange article.
 
2011-12-04 02:01:59 AM

SJKebab: Sounds like a pretty smart trade-up.


True, now she can get the hell out of Detroit...

I would've suggested getting some publicity that elicits public simplicity; there are people out there who would've just given her the van without having to take the house. Maybe a local car dealership could've helped her out---a struggling janitor at my high school was given a van before his wife had triplets (it helped that one of the students' dad owned a local Dodge dealer).
 
2011-12-04 02:12:58 AM
It's astrovan.
 
2011-12-04 02:15:56 AM
Maybe it was the Cadillac of minivans.....

i291.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-04 02:16:09 AM
Kelley Blue Book values the vehicle at between $5,000 and $8,500. The city had valued the house at $96,000. Flake picked it up last year at a foreclosure sale for $3,600.

Considering that the house needs lotsa costly repairs, it wasn't a bad trade. If she's happy with her decision, she shouldn't worry about what others think.
 
2011-12-04 02:19:30 AM
I did not expect her decision to make as much sense as it did when I read the article.

It looks like she already had her family living in another house, and she received a van that sells for more than she invested in the house she traded.
 
2011-12-04 02:22:08 AM

Lorelle: Considering that the house needs lotsa costly repairs, it wasn't a bad trade. If she's happy with her decision, she shouldn't worry about what others think.


Well, especially since she isn't living in it. She has at least two other properties she picked up for less than 10 grand.

This is real estate investing in Detroit - houses are less practical than an 11 year old minivan.
 
2011-12-04 02:24:51 AM

The WindowLicker: I did not expect her decision to make as much sense as it did when I read the article.

It looks like she already had her family living in another house, and she received a van that sells for more than she invested in the house she traded.


at first i was like: "Oh Detroit, you so crazy"
then i RTFA and was like: notbadobama.jpg
 
2011-12-04 02:27:42 AM
Yeah, I don't see how this is fark-worthy. Sounds like a sensible deal for both parties.
 
2011-12-04 02:32:48 AM
LaWanda Flake, 36, said responses to her Nov. 7 Craigslist offer flooded in from across the nation.

Well, despite always having her minivan on her, you still can't depend on her for a ride when you really need it.
 
2011-12-04 02:33:07 AM
Six kids and no man in sight.

Whar be de babby daddies?

Whar be de babby daddies?

WHAR BE DE BABY DADDIES?
 
2011-12-04 02:34:41 AM
I love it how the headline mentions how many children she has, as if she has moved all of her children into this minivan or something.
 
2011-12-04 02:38:31 AM
Living in a van down by the river Sorry,I couldn't help myself.
 
2011-12-04 02:40:56 AM
Jake: The Caddy, where's the Caddy?
Elwood The what?
Jake: The Cadillac we used to have! The Bluesmobile!
Elwood I traded it.
Jake: You traded the Bluesmobile for this?!
Elwood: No ... for a microphone.
Jake: A microphone? [pause] Okay, I can see that.
 
2011-12-04 02:43:47 AM
If the lady picked up the house (which needed a lot of repairs) for only $3500 at auction, then I have no problem with her trading it for a vehicle. HOWEVER, for the love of God, why would you turn down a car with a sale price of at least $22k?
 
2011-12-04 02:52:33 AM

Ceqir: If the lady picked up the house (which needed a lot of repairs) for only $3500 at auction, then I have no problem with her trading it for a vehicle. HOWEVER, for the love of God, why would you turn down a car with a sale price of at least $22k?


Can she get herself and 6 kids in it? No? Then what good is it to her? Same as the Corvette. Reselling the car for more cash? Dude, this is Detroit; she might lose the vehicle to theft before she could resell it.
 
2011-12-04 02:54:53 AM
"It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.
 
2011-12-04 02:57:39 AM
(Continuing on Ivo's theme..)

Unless of course that minivan came from the Mt. Prospect police auction..Cause they practically give
away cars there..
 
2011-12-04 02:58:00 AM

GreenSun: "It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.


wrong thread, Santa.
 
2011-12-04 02:58:40 AM

GreenSun: "It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.


That was Santa's mini-van?
 
2011-12-04 03:03:36 AM
I think the tag was for the subby.
 
2011-12-04 03:09:55 AM

ParagonComplex: I think the tag was for the subby.


Either that or for the Chevy Uplander van...those are ugly vehicles.

www.forums.carrackresources.com

What an Uplander might look like.
 
2011-12-04 03:10:12 AM
"Another trade offer was a 1996 Chevrolet Corvette.

"I said, Oh wow! What am I going to do with a Corvette? I can't do anything practical with a Corvette," Flake said. "

You sell it and buy TEN used minivans, you stupid, stupid woman.
 
2011-12-04 03:20:10 AM
Which was the clown car again?
 
2011-12-04 03:24:21 AM

SystemFault: Six kids and no man in sight.

Whar be de babby daddies?

Whar be de babby daddies?

WHAR BE DE BABY DADDIES?


To the daytime television viewing audience, they would feel that that reflects poorly on all those men.

Frankly, if I knocked up someone who already had 5 kids and no relationship to any of the fathers, I would split faster than a MIB wig in a guillotine.

itsatrap.jpg
 
2011-12-04 03:25:33 AM
It sounds like this was at least her seventh mistake.

/I wonder if any free skrimps were part of the deal.
 
2011-12-04 03:28:43 AM

GreenSun: "It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.


Santa drives a minivan?
 
2011-12-04 03:28:51 AM

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: It sounds like this was at least her seventh mistake.

/I wonder if any free skrimps were part of the deal.


Actually it was not a mistake to trade the house for the van, given that she got the house for $3600, it was a dump, and the van is worth much more than $3600. And, of course, she already had moved her and her children elsewhere.
 
2011-12-04 03:29:54 AM

Bathia_Mapes: GreenSun: "It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.

Santa drives a minivan?


Lots of people posting in the wrong threads tonight.
 
2011-12-04 03:48:10 AM

SJKebab: Sounds like a pretty smart trade-up.


Absolutely. No one ever drove a brick Tudor style house across country to a city that has jobs.
 
2011-12-04 04:06:03 AM

xrayspx: SJKebab: Sounds like a pretty smart trade-up.

Absolutely. No one ever drove a brick Tudor style house across country to a city that has jobs.


Of course not. Rational adults launch thousands of balloons from their chimney and go to South America.
 
2011-12-04 04:07:03 AM

SeriousGeorge: I love it how the headline mentions how many children she has, as if she has moved all of her children into this minivan or something.


I think the point of that detail was that she needed a van more than she needed a second house. And it sounds like she's providing well for the kids, in spite of being a single mom. Maybe she's a widow who received some kind of money upon her husband's death, or maybe she's just good with money management. Or something else.

However, on a side note, if the subject of this story were a man with (any number of) kids, we also would have been told why he's a single father. It would be, "Flake, who has custody of his children because his ex-wife is battling addiction," or "Flake, a widower who is the sole provider for his six children," or some such. But "single mother" is so common, and therefore Dad so unimportant, that reporters don't even ask about him. They're also terrified of sounding "judgmental" when trying to cover the basic questions that come up when reporting on a family story.

It's pretty sexist, really.

Anyway, good on her.

piltdown: "Another trade offer was a 1996 Chevrolet Corvette.

"I said, Oh wow! What am I going to do with a Corvette? I can't do anything practical with a Corvette," Flake said. "

You sell it and buy TEN used minivans, you stupid, stupid woman.


What are you, a used-car salesman? You are far overestimating the value of a '96 Corvette. It's probably worth around $12K-$14K, depending on what work it needs done next week, tires, features/condition/mileage etc. Worth even less in Detroit right now, where people don't have a lot of money to throw around on luxuries ... like houses.
 
2011-12-04 04:10:13 AM

Ceqir: If the lady picked up the house (which needed a lot of repairs) for only $3500 at auction, then I have no problem with her trading it for a vehicle. HOWEVER, for the love of God, why would you turn down a car with a sale price of at least $22k?


Where in the heck do you live where people pay $22,000 for a 16-year-old 'Vette? Even retail, at a dealer, it shouldn't be anywhere near that in most U.S. cities.
 
2011-12-04 04:18:02 AM
I apologize, Ceqir; I thought you were referring to the Corvette, since I can't imagine a Bentley would be as low as $22,000.

It's probably hard to sell a Bentley in Detroit right now, too, though, which would be a good reason not to buy it. She wanted something practical. An oil change in a Bentley is probably $200 if you don't do it yourself. Then there's the problem of keeping it stocked with Grey Poupon. It adds up.
 
2011-12-04 04:22:46 AM
Hello, hello, is this thing on? *tap tap tap*

Lsherm: GreenSun: "It's outrageous that a teacher would strip a child of their innocence ignorance and try and demystify tell them the reality of something," said Margaret Fernandez, 59.

"The most real things in the world are things that you don't see or touch," she added, "and they are the things that mean the most - love, kindness and generosity."

You don't need to believe in an imaginary person, creature, or whatever in order to give love, kindness and generosity. If you're only being "nice" because you're scared that some Santa Claus won't give you gifts come Christmas day and you'd rather be an asshole if you knew he didn't exist, then that's not true kindness. The true spirit of being nice is being "good" to people even if nobody will reward or punish you for what you do.

wrong thread, Santa.


It would be just as lame in the correct thread, though, so I'd call it a wash.
 
2011-12-04 04:37:20 AM
nice (former) friend
 
2011-12-04 04:41:39 AM

Lsherm: Lorelle: Considering that the house needs lotsa costly repairs, it wasn't a bad trade. If she's happy with her decision, she shouldn't worry about what others think.

Well, especially since she isn't living in it. She has at least two other properties she picked up for less than 10 grand.

This is real estate investing in Detroit - houses are less practical than an 11 year old minivan.


Yeah...color me surprised too. I was expecting some hardcore government assistance occupy sob story...and all I saw was a smart woman buying up property through bank auctions.

Kinda makes me reconsider my incoming 6 figure inheritance...build a house...or buy 2-3 and rent em out?

/Wife will end up deciding
//She's the decider :(
 
2011-12-04 04:45:17 AM

LavenderWolf: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: It sounds like this was at least her seventh mistake.

/I wonder if any free skrimps were part of the deal.

Actually it was not a mistake to trade the house for the van, given that she got the house for $3600, it was a dump, and the van is worth much more than $3600. And, of course, she already had moved her and her children elsewhere.


Very true. I concede to your valid response.

/I'm still wondering if free skrimps were involved.

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GBB
2011-12-04 05:03:51 AM
Is her goal to eventually work her way towards a paperclip in a year?
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-12-04 05:06:35 AM

Lorelle: Kelley Blue Book values the vehicle at between $5,000 and $8,500. The city had valued the house at $96,000. Flake picked it up last year at a foreclosure sale for $3,600.

Considering that the house needs lotsa costly repairs,


The same can be said of the vast majority of vehicles that have depreciated to less than a third of their original book value, especially if you acquire them from the financial version of a police impound auction.
 
2011-12-04 05:12:26 AM

GBB: Is her goal to eventually work her way towards a paperclip in a year?
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LOL I got the joke.
 
2011-12-04 05:18:24 AM

GBB: Is her goal to eventually work her way towards a paperclip in a year?
1.bp.blogspot.com


Bravo! Nice "anti" red paperclip reference!

lasciencecoalition.org
 
2011-12-04 05:18:44 AM

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: /I'm still wondering if free skrimps were involved.


Ya know how people keep telling you you're a racist, and you're like, all, "no u?" Yeah. About that. You are a disgusting human being.
 
2011-12-04 05:41:47 AM

MorrisBird: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: /I'm still wondering if free skrimps were involved.

Ya know how people keep telling you you're a racist, and you're like, all, "no u?" Yeah. About that. You are a disgusting human being.


Yah, because I'm the first to ever use that image on Fark.

redriverpak.files.wordpress.com

/Step out of your parent's basement and join us in the real world, Twinkle Toes.
 
2011-12-04 05:48:58 AM

I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: MorrisBird: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: /I'm still wondering if free skrimps were involved.

Ya know how people keep telling you you're a racist, and you're like, all, "no u?" Yeah. About that. You are a disgusting human being.

Yah, because I'm the first to ever use that image on Fark.

[redriverpak.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

/Step out of your parent's basement and join us in the real world, Twinkle Toes.


I'm 56 years old, dear heart. My parent's basement is an archaeological dig. Take your "skrimp" comments and your white sheet and find a place to be awful
 
2011-12-04 05:53:34 AM

MorrisBird: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: MorrisBird: I Am The Egg Matt Drudge Smears Upon His Body: /I'm still wondering if free skrimps were involved.

Ya know how people keep telling you you're a racist, and you're like, all, "no u?" Yeah. About that. You are a disgusting human being.

Yah, because I'm the first to ever use that image on Fark.

[redriverpak.files.wordpress.com image 400x300]

/Step out of your parent's basement and join us in the real world, Twinkle Toes.

I'm 56 years old, dear heart. My parent's basement is an archaeological dig. Take your "skrimp" comments and your white sheet and find a place to be awful


Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with MorrisBird on this one. That sure is some obvious racism.
 
2011-12-04 05:59:42 AM
"Hurr it's a post about someone who I can tell is black, I'ma post some shiat about skrimps and refer to all her kids as mistakes. Haw haw stupid black people."
 
2011-12-04 06:36:18 AM

LavenderWolf: "Hurr it's a post about someone who I can tell is black, I'ma post some shiat about skrimps and refer to all her kids as mistakes. Haw haw stupid black people."


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