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namatad

2011-12-04 01:08:16 AM

FFS, I hate these articles. you have a list of corrupt countries? where? Oh wait, you have SOME of the countries listed in different paragraphs. do you fardtards not understand HOW lists work??
sigh

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/ (new window)

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/ (new window)

wow, look!! so much more interesting and useful that the submitted link.
sigh

namatad

2011-12-04 01:10:28 AM

europe minus italy (69?? LOL) is basically a nice place to live.

Britney Spear's Speculum

2011-12-04 01:13:08 AM

Headline fails. And the world's least PERCEIVED corrupt nation is

namatad: FFS, I hate these articles. you have a list of corrupt countries? where? Oh wait, you have SOME of the countries listed in different paragraphs. do you fardtards not understand HOW lists work??
sigh

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/ (new window)

http://cpi.transparency.org/cpi2011/results/ (new window)

wow, look!! so much more interesting and useful that the submitted link.
sigh

Click namatad's links instead of the article. You will not be disappoint.

Ghastly

2011-12-04 01:53:58 AM

YES! Canada finally has a new slogan.

Canada: We're more corrupt than New Zealand, but not as corrupt as the United States.

Let the tourism begin!

odinsposse

2011-12-04 01:56:26 AM

I'm going to guess "some socialist hellhole" before I even click. Goddamn those socialists with their high standards of living and functional governments. They represent everything that I hate.

Harry_Seldon

2011-12-04 01:56:46 AM

Their secret?

Xena, Anti-Corruption Princess.

Manfred J. Hattan

2011-12-04 01:58:57 AM

Heck, even the One Ring couldn't corrupt those good-hearted, stout hobbits.

fusillade762

2011-12-04 01:59:33 AM

The United States ranked 24th

Woo-hoo! We're 24! We're 24! We're 24!

Fista-Phobia

2011-12-04 02:00:45 AM

ontariolightning

2011-12-04 02:03:38 AM

Harperland should be 60th least corrupt

Enigmamf

2011-12-04 02:03:44 AM

Honestly, is there any list New Zedland doesn't top?

TheMaskedArmadillo

2011-12-04 02:04:11 AM

As told to me by a taxi driver in Mexico City...

"Do you know why Mexico is not the most corrupt country in the world?"
"No, why?"
"Because we pay them to say we are not"

8InchFloppy

2011-12-04 02:06:38 AM

Im just glad Zaire isnt at the top of the list. Some dead beat prince has been keeping my lotto winnings from me for two years.

HelloMyNameIs

2011-12-04 02:06:41 AM

The rankings for other Western Hemisphere countries are: Uruguay (25), Puerto Rico (39),

By Miss Teen South Carolina, CNN

Two_Noodles

2011-12-04 02:13:24 AM

I figured it was either N.Z. or Iceland.

Dunno why, I guess N.Z. is a mythical paradise, and Bjork somehow purifies all of Iceland.

Atomic Spunk

2011-12-04 02:13:58 AM

The US would have been ranked a lot less corrupt if they had paid the bribes that the list makers were asking for.

ruinevil

2011-12-04 02:14:16 AM

So... why is Somalia the world's most corrupt country. It's not really even a country. It has no centralized government and no real army.

I can't get the cap off!

2011-12-04 02:14:23 AM

FTFA:

The United States ranked 24th least corrupt on a "corruption perceptions index," the fourth-best in the Western Hemisphere. Canada ranked 10th, the Bahamas is 21st and Chile is 22nd.

And that's when I realized the list had no merit.

starsrift

2011-12-04 02:17:11 AM

Canada ranks 10th least corrupt? On a scale of 1 - 10, where one is corrupted, and 10 is pure as newly driven snow, Canada ranks 8.7?

Have they not talked to any one Canadian politician? Jesus Christ, corruption and bribery and kickback investigations are so common up here in Canuckistan that they don't even make the papers any more.

D_Moran

2011-12-04 02:18:27 AM

8InchFloppy: "Im just glad Zaire isnt at the top of the list. Some dead beat prince has been keeping my lotto winnings from me for two years."

Once you finally collect your winnings, you can take an autogyro to Prussia or Siam.

I can't get the cap off!

2011-12-04 02:20:39 AM

starsrift: Canada ranks 10th least corrupt? On a scale of 1 - 10, where one is corrupted, and 10 is pure as newly driven snow, Canada ranks 8.7?

Have they not talked to any one Canadian politician? Jesus Christ, corruption and bribery and kickback investigations are so common up here in Canuckistan that they don't even make the papers any more.

Quebec was listed separately below Somalia.

Knight of the Woeful Countenance

2011-12-04 02:22:01 AM

Yeah, but the only reason they won is because they paid off the judges.

The WindowLicker

2011-12-04 02:24:21 AM

I can't get the cap off!: And that's when I realized the list had no merit.

It has plenty of merit. It is not a list of actual corruption, it is a list of how much corruption people Think there is.

ontariolightning

2011-12-04 02:24:22 AM

up here in canuckistan our defence minister peter mackay told the house a big fat lie about using a search and rescue chopper to see how the safety missions are done...well emails from department of defense show he used the search and rescue helicopter to fly to a photo op in ontario
while showing off to his fishing buddies by getting in the bucket

starsrift

2011-12-04 02:24:22 AM

I can't get the cap off!: Quebec was listed separately below Somalia.

Oh, then that makes sense. They'd prefer it that way, anyway.

Jim_Callahan

2011-12-04 02:25:02 AM

... not unlike being the world's tallest midget?

... only accessible through the back of the wardrobe?

... China, according to internal bureaucrats that you know you can trust because they're the least corrupt in the world?

c'mon, subby, don't set it up and leave us hanging like that.

I can't get the cap off!

2011-12-04 02:29:16 AM

The WindowLicker: I can't get the cap off!: And that's when I realized the list had no merit.

It has plenty of merit. It is not a list of actual corruption, it is a list of how much corruption people Think there is.

Also FTFA:

Perceptions are used, the organization said, because corruption is a hidden activity that is difficult to measure.

They are implying a strong correlation between the two. The Bahamas essentially exists as a nation for the sake of corruption. Therefore their assertion looks extremely questionable.

Thunderpipes

2011-12-04 02:34:24 AM

The index uses a scale of 0-10 to measure perceived corruption, with zero representing highly corrupt and 10 being very clean.

Accurate study this.

The WindowLicker

2011-12-04 02:39:11 AM

I can't get the cap off!: The WindowLicker: I can't get the cap off!: And that's when I realized the list had no merit.

It has plenty of merit. It is not a list of actual corruption, it is a list of how much corruption people Think there is.

Also FTFA:

Perceptions are used, the organization said, because corruption is a hidden activity that is difficult to measure.

They are implying a strong correlation between the two. The Bahamas essentially exists as a nation for the sake of corruption. Therefore their assertion looks extremely questionable.

Yes, but the list demonstrates that they are perceived as trustworthy.

There may be a great deal of corrupt behavior that is carried out in the Bahamas, but this is only possible because the parties involved trust the establishment there.

It is sort of like the Swiss government. I have a great deal of faith that the government there is incorruptible, while I am also equally sure that any number of highly corrupt dictators, despots and other shady characters use the hell out of their system.

TheBigJerk

2011-12-04 02:41:54 AM

I'm sorry, Chile is less corrupt than the US?

"perception of corruption."

...I still have difficulty believing that.

daxxenos

2011-12-04 02:42:09 AM

Perceptions are used, the organization said, because corruption is a hidden activity that is difficult to measure.

It's obvious that they parsed out Chicago to get the US to score so high in the rankings. Everyone who lives in Chicago knows that a Chicago cop costs $100, an alderman costs $500. The Mayor? If you have to ask, you can't afford it. That's why he left DC. Small time crooks like Obama were holding him back. Rahm is going to be worth $50,000,000 by the time his Democrats stop stealing elections.

Dave The Slushy

2011-12-04 02:47:34 AM

Yup, as a civil servant in Knew Zoulund, it is actually reassuring to know that no-one can't be bought because the minute one person knows you're on the take, everyone will know it. Especially in my industry, which is so incestuous we make parts of The South look decidedly diverse in their gene pool.

It removes any and all thought of doing so.

Same goes for our elections. We had one the other day, simple tick in the box and that was that. No farking around with machines or anything, because if any party every tried to fark over our system of democracy in such an abhorrent way it would not be featuring in any way shape or for at the next election. Except perhaps as a warning to others that even attempt vote rigging in a country where it is impossible to sleep with someone you are not already 2 degrees from.

/with the head of the leader of the party stuck on a pike for all to see
//and I would wave to it, like this *finger wavy wave*
///not obscure on fark

apoptotic

2011-12-04 02:48:14 AM

starsrift: Canada ranks 10th least corrupt? On a scale of 1 - 10, where one is corrupted, and 10 is pure as newly driven snow, Canada ranks 8.7?

Have they not talked to any one Canadian politician? Jesus Christ, corruption and bribery and kickback investigations are so common up here in Canuckistan that they don't even make the papers any more.

Which is why we scored well on the Perception index. If it was a reality index, not so much.

Dave The Slushy

2011-12-04 02:53:36 AM

Dave The Slushy: Yup, as a civil servant in Knew Zoulund, it is actually reassuring to know that no-one can't be bought.....

Can...can be bought (self grammar nazification)...

inglixthemad

2011-12-04 02:56:28 AM

ruinevil: So... why is Somalia the world's most corrupt country. It's not really even a country. It has no centralized government and no real army.

It's a Galt paradise! No big, ebil, gubbermint to tell you what to do. No taxes, every man makes his own way. FREEDOM!

thisispete

2011-12-04 02:58:47 AM

Dave The Slushy: Yup, as a civil servant in Knew Zoulund, it is actually reassuring to know that no-one can't be bought because the minute one person knows you're on the take, everyone will know it. Especially in my industry, which is so incestuous we make parts of The South look decidedly diverse in their gene pool.

I made it out of the NZ public service and into a university job three weeks ago. I was tired of constant departmental reviews and austerity. The rules are a little exacting there - I went to a conference a few weeks before I left. I couldn't put my name into the draw for an iPad at a vendor's stand because it would have been improper to take it if I had won. You can't even keep your own airpoints if you fly somewhere.

Coboc

2011-12-04 02:59:50 AM

Dave The Slushy

2011-12-04 03:12:12 AM

thisispete: Dave The Slushy: Yup, as a civil servant in Knew Zoulund, it is actually reassuring to know that no-one can't be bought because the minute one person knows you're on the take, everyone will know it. Especially in my industry, which is so incestuous we make parts of The South look decidedly diverse in their gene pool.

I made it out of the NZ public service and into a university job three weeks ago. I was tired of constant departmental reviews and austerity. The rules are a little exacting there - I went to a conference a few weeks before I left. I couldn't put my name into the draw for an iPad at a vendor's stand because it would have been improper to take it if I had won. You can't even keep your own airpoints if you fly somewhere.

Hey, that sounds familiar! 'Cept we would just have to declare the iPad if we won it and let the boss decide if we could keep it. The airpoints thing gets very murky for us. It's dodgy for us to use if it's for our own purposes, but not dodgy for us to use them for work related travel (such as training) that happens to include a few days off afterwards. I have given up trying to point out this hypocrisy, and accepted that there is a way for me to use my airpoints in a way that benefits both me and the company.

HairBolus

2011-12-04 03:18:53 AM

Among moderately corrupt places there is a big difference between whether full-service (Mafia like) organized crime exists or only single-purpose organized crime (such as drug gangs or car-theft rings)

In places like Italy and India, organized crime bribes the police.

In places like Brazil, the police function as organized crime and quash major civilian competitive organizations.

thisispete

2011-12-04 03:19:42 AM

I think in part because it was Internal Affairs and questions had been raised about the ministerial fleet of BMWs this year, they are keeping the departmental nose extra-clean.

brantgoose

2011-12-04 03:21:01 AM

If you think Canada is corrupt, you haven't seen much of the world. True, there may be investigations in the news all the time, but there are hundreds of politicians--one politician feathering his nest at the expense of the taxpayers is nothing compared to a country where judges, police, politicians, the military, civil servants and private citizens all have their hand out for a bribe or are all selling public property.

Italy is so corrupt that you can't get a security clearance if you've worked, studied or lived there for any time because it's that easy to get fake documents from the police. Many poor countries are less corrupt. In many countries the pay for public servants is so low and so infrequently paid that everybody HAS to be on the take. In India, schoolteachers have other jobs and in a school with 100 teachers on the payroll, 25-50 might never show up for work, while others would demand bribes to teach anything. If you're not paid, you can't do your job for long without a second income or bribes.

I never take the exact position in these polls too seriously. In fact, if you look at the website and click on on a tick box, you can get the confidence levels. Canada for example, might be tied with any country as far as Singapore, while number one, New Zealand could be tied with the next four countries. Assuming that any group of five countries is probably roughly tied is not unreasonable. In many of these polls, ten or twenty at a time might be more reasonable.

OgreMagi

2011-12-04 03:22:49 AM

Ghastly: YES! Canada finally has a new slogan.

Canada: We're more corrupt than New Zealand, but not as corrupt as the United States.

Let the tourism begin!

Personally, I think Canadians are up to something. They're too quiet, too nice, and they live right next door. Just like serial killers.

trappedspirit

2011-12-04 03:26:09 AM

This is one of those threads where people go and let off steam and nothing changes except the post count and ad banner click through count, right?

Monkeyfark Ridiculous

2011-12-04 03:38:14 AM

trappedspirit: This is one of those threads where people go and let off steam and nothing changes except the post count and ad banner click through count, right?

Yes, your address bar is showing the correct URL.

trappedspirit

2011-12-04 03:46:54 AM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads where people go and let off steam and nothing changes except the post count and ad banner click through count, right?

Yes, your address bar is showing the correct URL.

I didn't know my 'address bar' was showing. I'll throw a towel on that.

WhyteRaven74

2011-12-04 03:51:15 AM

I'd say Bhutan is less corrupt than anywhere else. But then it's not a place many people ever think of so if you're asing people about their perceptions it's not going to rank.

if_i_really_have_to

2011-12-04 04:37:04 AM

thisispete: Dave The Slushy: Yup, as a civil servant in Knew Zoulund, it is actually reassuring to know that no-one can't be bought because the minute one person knows you're on the take, everyone will know it. Especially in my industry, which is so incestuous we make parts of The South look decidedly diverse in their gene pool.

I made it out of the NZ public service and into a university job three weeks ago. I was tired of constant departmental reviews and austerity. The rules are a little exacting there - I went to a conference a few weeks before I left. I couldn't put my name into the draw for an iPad at a vendor's stand because it would have been improper to take it if I had won. You can't even keep your own airpoints if you fly somewhere.

Now Pete, I'm sure you don't want to be disagreeing with out great mate the Prime Minister. According to him civil servants in NZ are overindulged and overpaid.

Have to find myself one of these cushy public service jobs the right wingers keep nattering about. Clearly I was working in the wrong government departments.

Monkeyfark Ridiculous

2011-12-04 04:41:01 AM

trappedspirit: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: trappedspirit: This is one of those threads where people go and let off steam and nothing changes except the post count and ad banner click through count, right?

Yes, your address bar is showing the correct URL.

I didn't know my 'address bar' was showing. I'll throw a towel on that.

Good man. A towel is about the most massively useful thing a farker can have.

Dave The Slushy

2011-12-04 04:51:52 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Now Pete, I'm sure you don't want to be disagreeing with out great mate the Prime Minister. According to him civil servants in NZ are overindulged and overpaid.

Have to find myself one of these cushy public service jobs the right wingers keep nattering about. Clearly I was working in the wrong government departments.

Cushy my shiny metal ass, I have to work to a living! That was the most disappointing thing I found out after getting the job. Apparently, some civil servants actually have to do some work to make sure the place isn't two meals away from chaos! Sadly, turns out, I'm one of those.

thisispete

2011-12-04 04:53:56 AM

if_i_really_have_to: Now Pete, I'm sure you don't want to be disagreeing with out great mate the Prime Minister. According to him civil servants in NZ are overindulged and overpaid.

All I know is that I'm now making better money, I've got shorter hours, I've got more varied work and more responsibility and now have free parking within metres of my workplace - admittedly I moved back to Dunedin, but still that means I can afford a house rather than having to rent in Wellington and my commute is 10 minutes.

The unplanned public sector turnover (i.e. people quitting rather than being laid off) dropped to a record low last year. It's already rebounded to 2009 levels. I've every expectation that there's a lot more who are looking to get out if they get the opportunity and if work gets that bad, then it may open some up to corruption.

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