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(Daily Mail)   St. Petersburg, Florida has again been named the nation's saddest city, God's waiting room   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 83
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2011-12-03 08:38:18 AM
That explains a lot.

//It started when they tore down Webbs
 
2011-12-03 08:41:31 AM
Did the Florida tag off itself?

/was born in St. Pete and was happy as a clam
 
2011-12-03 08:52:03 AM
St Pete is awesome. That is all.
 
2011-12-03 08:58:21 AM
If Saint Petersburg is so awesome, why doesn't anyone from Tampa want to go there for a Rays game?
 
2011-12-03 09:16:54 AM
I would note the small exception to this sadness riiiiight at the southern tip of St. Pete. There's a college there which, at least in the 80s, was far too high to be sad about 99% of the time.

But yes, as a city I'd say St. Pete is pretty sad. I remember going to the Kidney Foundation Thrift Store to get clothes, which was pretty goddamn depressing in and of itself. And Tyrone Mall, which involved a half-hour drive to an ugly little pseudomecca of shopping.

However, nobody can go to Skyway Jack's and remain sad. I believe the portions are designed to squeeze all of the depression out of you (and replace it with cholesterol, but that's a different discussion).
 
2011-12-03 09:26:28 AM
If you have money St Pete offers a really nice life. What happens though is so many people come to Florida without much money and realize they are no happier living closer to the coast and with a little more sunshine than they were in the crappy place they came from. Furthermore Florida cities are notorious for lacking a sense of community. Many live a disconnected life and it's rare to find a people with a deep network of friends. Lots of people that move to Florida end up moving back to where they came from simply to have a social life again.

As for Tampa...it's 90% ghetto strip mall. Orlando is a much nicer city, though it certainly has plenty of crappy areas as well.
 
2011-12-03 09:45:13 AM
FriarReb98: If Saint Petersburg is so awesome, why doesn't anyone from Tampa want to go there for a Rays game?

Because baseball is too boring to cross a bridge and drive through a shiatty neighborhood to get to the stadium.

Downtown St. Pete is admittedly a hell hole. The homeless situation in the park is a disgrace. But the only time I ventured into downtown was to go to concerts at Jannus Landing. But most of St. Pete is okay, some of it is nice like any other city.

Tampa has Hispanic Historic Ybor City and nice areas as well.
 
2011-12-03 10:38:28 AM
No Florida tag or Sad tag?
 
2011-12-03 10:40:01 AM
the sand is good
 
2011-12-03 10:42:00 AM
www.gpb.org

Relevant to their interests...
 
2011-12-03 10:42:28 AM
In contrast, Honolulu, Hawaii - the birth place of U.S. President Barack Obama - is the happiest place to live.

Ice addicts never really struck me as a happy lot.
 
2011-12-03 10:45:51 AM
St. Pete is a lot better since they banned panhandling... Maybe Tampa made the list because a lot of the bums moved there?
 
2011-12-03 10:48:26 AM
It's a great place... to buy a slightly used Cadillac.
 
2011-12-03 10:48:26 AM
dahmers love zombie: I would note the small exception to this sadness riiiiight at the southern tip of St. Pete. There's a college there which, at least in the 80s, was far too high to be sad about 99% of the time.

But yes, as a city I'd say St. Pete is pretty sad. I remember going to the Kidney Foundation Thrift Store to get clothes, which was pretty goddamn depressing in and of itself. And Tyrone Mall, which involved a half-hour drive to an ugly little pseudomecca of shopping.

However, nobody can go to Skyway Jack's and remain sad. I believe the portions are designed to squeeze all of the depression out of you (and replace it with cholesterol, but that's a different discussion).


New College is in Bradenton, not St. Pete.
 
2011-12-03 10:51:51 AM
dahmers love zombie: And Tyrone Mall, which involved a half-hour drive to an ugly little pseudomecca of shopping.

Tyrone Mall? That was my dealer's name.
 
2011-12-03 10:51:52 AM
The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.
 
2011-12-03 10:52:52 AM
Mugato: Did the Florida tag off itself?

/was born in St. Pete and was happy as a clam


I have many friends that say it is a great place for 20-somethings...it's still Florida though.
 
2011-12-03 10:52:56 AM
My guess is because it's so remote. When you get into the belly of the beast that is Florida, you can't take off on a road trip without having to go back through a shiat ton of Florida before you escape.
 
2011-12-03 10:54:42 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: In contrast, Honolulu, Hawaii - the birth place of U.S. President Barack Obama - is the happiest place to live.
Ice addicts never really struck me as a happy lot.


People who live cold places become deliriously happy when the weather gets warm, and we also get invigorated when it starts getting cold again, in a "challenge accepted!" sort of way. We only start to get unhappy about January....but then we wait for the summer. Because I live in farking paradise in the summer.

If you always live in nice weather, what's to get excited about? Not to to mention the 12 million other people who also like to live right next door to you.
 
2011-12-03 10:55:40 AM
sigdiamond2000: The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.

No, that's just the parts south of Ocala. The rest smells more poached.
 
2011-12-03 10:57:41 AM
hah "Tyrone Mall" no wonder it's a failure. God help us if they ever figure out how to install rims on a strip mall.


Another way to look at this entire article is a ranking of the states where people have the most balls to do what a lot of people can't (suicide)

I've been directly effected by suicide - a good friend of mine. It really sucked, however I do believe that if our lives are TRULY ours to do as we please, shouldn't we be able to end them as well? It's kinda weird to think about people being forced to continue living just to satisfy YOU as a person who only has good intentions or some wacko religious belief.
 
2011-12-03 10:59:18 AM
Confabulat: St Pete is awesome. That is all.


Shhhh...let everyone keep believing how much this place sucks.

/makes my drive from Clwtr. to Tarpon every day easier
 
2011-12-03 10:59:55 AM
how could Reno and las vegas be listed as a 'sad' place?

Any place with THAT many hookers can't possibly be sad.


Wait, what? you mean I have to pay for these hookers myself? Umm yeah that's kinda sad.
 
2011-12-03 11:04:27 AM
Manchester, NH is one of the happiest cities to live in? I've been there once and it was enough to make me want to commit suicide
 
2011-12-03 11:04:57 AM
rocketpants: MayoSlather: Orlando is a much nicer city

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My thoughts exactly. Orlando is layers of fail, unless I guess you're a tourist taking your shiat machine to Disney to enjoy a weekend of getting wallet raped and soul sucked.
 
2011-12-03 11:05:02 AM
sigdiamond2000: The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.

(Insert your momma joke)

One of the reasons for so many Florida cities getting the "most depressing tag" is you have so many attractions, so many destinations that the common folk can't afford. Pro sports teams, amusement/theme parks, concerts, resorts...

And you get to see all the beautiful people enjoying them while you work to maintain them...if you're lucky.

With that kind of pay, who can take their family to see a football game or go to Disney? Hell, its a big family outing to take the family to the movies.

So, yes, it can be very depressing.
 
2011-12-03 11:07:42 AM
Xenolith: New College is in Bradenton, not St. Pete.

He was probably referring to Eckerd College

/2nd generation native
//stuck in Wisconsin, which is truly depressing
 
2011-12-03 11:08:18 AM
If that bridge was built in St. Louis or Minneapolis or Nashville, then that would be the "saddest" city. It's all about the bridge.
 
2011-12-03 11:10:58 AM
St. Pete's is beautiful, as is the rest of the Tampa Bay Area. I was there this past July for vacation/work and the only downside to the whole place is when I was in Bradington.

I saw someone driving around town with a Free Republic bumper sticker.
 
2011-12-03 11:13:11 AM
Oh and if anyone is near St. Pete's, make sure you go to Silus Dent's for Tuna Steak! Its amazing!
 
2011-12-03 11:18:06 AM
South St. Pete is the ghetto. It is a real ghetto. There are murders almost every day and there are kids shooting cops. And yes, if you have money, there are nice places like St. Pete Beach and Tierra Verde. You can move a little farther north and be white trash heaven in Pinellas Park. (aka Penniless Park)

JimmyCarter'sSecondTerm: St. Pete is a lot better since they banned panhandling... Maybe Tampa made the list because a lot of the bums moved there?

Yeah, all the bums from St. Pete came over to Tampa. But our city council just banned panhandling except on Sundays. So, it's a little nicer around here now.

dahmers love zombie: There's a college there which, at least in the 80s, was far too high to be sad about 99% of the time.i>

That's Eckerd College which was just ranked the 12th "druggiest" college in the U.S. according to The Daily Beast.
 
2011-12-03 11:24:36 AM
My family has a condo in Madeira Beach. Seems like a decent area to me.
 
2011-12-03 11:29:45 AM
FingHostile: dahmers love zombie: There's a college there which, at least in the 80s, was far too high to be sad about 99% of the time.i>

That's Eckerd College which was just ranked the 12th "druggiest" college in the U.S. according to The Daily Beast.



Yep. My alma mater. Man, I could tell you stories...but I don't remember them.
 
2011-12-03 11:31:19 AM
oukewldave: My family has a condo in Madeira Beach. Seems like a decent area to me.

Madiera Beach is nice. Along with Treasure Island (where my family has a condo), Reddington Shores, Indian Rocks and Bellaire Shores. That's because it's all beach front where all where the Snowbirds come down to every winter and the tourists stay during the summer. Go inland a little ways and you'll find out that it's not so nice. Try Largo, that place is just downright depressing.
 
2011-12-03 11:37:04 AM
dahmers love zombie:

Yep. My alma mater. Man, I could tell you stories...but I don't remember them.


My Sister In-Law went there. She says that there were a lot of white kids with dreadlocks and people playing hacky sack.
 
2011-12-03 11:44:52 AM
Born and raised and posting from St. Pete.

I like it.

/Is also a "20 something" as someone mentioned earlier
//Haters gonna hate.
 
2011-12-03 11:47:36 AM
I love how the article is used to push Obama's birthplace being Honolulu, Hawaii. Nice legwork for the powers that be, Daily Fail. Anyone who has done legitimate searching for the facts knows the Fraud in Chief was born in Mombossa, Kenya.

Woe to the willfully ignorant. You look like feckless fools.
 
2011-12-03 11:51:46 AM
sigdiamond2000: The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.

It's from the ground water.
 
2011-12-03 11:52:40 AM
accelerus: how could Reno and las vegas be listed as a 'sad' place?

Any place with THAT many hookers can't possibly be sad.


Wait, what? you mean I have to pay for these hookers myself? Umm yeah that's kinda sad.


Las Vegas has high unemployment. And the few jobs that still exist involve being nice to Californians. Horrifying.

It's surprisingly cold during the winter, so it's not even fun to look at the hookers because they are all covered up.

UNLV's football team has always been bad and most outrageous of all;these days, UNLV basketball players have to go to class once in a while.
 
2011-12-03 11:52:47 AM
What a retarded metric.

I'll take sun, beaches and fishing year-round over just about anywhere else in the country. I visit southwest Florida at least once a year. Usually further south though.
 
2011-12-03 11:54:06 AM
Eckerd College is a smarmy hive of the New England prep school kids who were too dumb for Ivy League schools that become fake hippies on contact with Florida soil.

/my alma mater
//didn't like it
///last 2 years at USF was muuuuuuch better
////slashies
 
2011-12-03 12:02:53 PM
crab66: What a retarded metric.

I agree.

But the south still sucks.

/ Lived there and got the fark out
 
2011-12-03 12:07:03 PM
I haven't been to St. Petersburg since I was a kid but I remember liking it.
 
2011-12-03 12:12:56 PM
All I know is that St. Pete has the rockinest Dali museum outside of Spain.
img.artknowledgenews.com
 
2011-12-03 12:13:53 PM
I was only there once, but we went to the Dali Museum, ate at Red Mesa, and then drove around while passing at joint. I had a pretty good time.
 
2011-12-03 12:14:35 PM
Herodotus: ///last 2 years at USF was muuuuuuch better

USF represent

They actually have a pretty good CS school.
 
2011-12-03 12:17:35 PM
I grew up in Sarasota and always felt St. Pete was depressing as all hell. The only good part was visiting my Great Uncle Henry when I was around ten or so and learning how to play shuffle board from him.

The worst was when I was 19 and had to spend a whole week "helping" out with my paternal grandfather. Grandpa had moved to St. Pete from Madison, Wisconsin when I was in my senior year in high school and within a year, had a series of strokes thatr left him pretty much out of it. So, my dad sent me up there for a week to help out, except, my step-grandmother would not let me do anything. They were in a new subdivision with nothing near by. I didn't have a car and my step-grandmother was not about to let me use theirs. I spent the whole week just siting and reading through the massive collection of National Geographics. I would have just gone out of my skull but for them.

Oh, and New College is in Sarasota, albeit way extreme north Sarasota. My high school girlfriend's dad was comptroller there in the Sixties and Seventies.
 
2011-12-03 12:29:38 PM
Moodybastard One of the reasons for so many Florida cities getting the "most depressing tag" is you have so many attractions, so many destinations that the common folk can't afford. Pro sports teams, amusement/theme parks, concerts, resorts...


Actually, it's because most residents come from NYC, Boston or Philly, and bring their shiatty attitudes and obnoxious whines with them. If all the farking Yankees would stay up north, Florida would be a great place to live.
 
2011-12-03 12:30:01 PM
cosmiquemuffin: All I know is that St. Pete has the rockinest Dali museum outside of Spain.

Yeah, that's pretty cool and near the Pier area which is nice. Spent some of my high school years playing guitar at the yacht club over there. They were rich douchebags but more like yuppie douchebags, not old people douchebags.
 
2011-12-03 12:41:32 PM
in other news, Naples, FL is about to become the happiest city in the state. They're getting a Trader Joes.
 
2011-12-03 12:46:17 PM
might they have mixed up sad with pathetic?

I wonder . . .
 
2011-12-03 01:01:04 PM
Also the home of Scientology.
 
2011-12-03 01:01:27 PM
I've been to St Pete a view times, as well as Tampa and they seemed nice enough. They have the typical ghetto problems that all major cities have, made worse just by the sheer amount of low income people that have moved to the area from colder places.

I've spent a lot of time in Sarasota because my parents live there and I like it a lot. If you folks are looking for a vacation spot to the best beach in the world, find a condo to stay in on Siesta Key. I recommend Midnight Cove, where I used to stay before my parents bought a house in Sarasota.
 
2011-12-03 01:11:57 PM
BiggityBanninated: Also the home of Scientology.

That's Clearwater, not St Pete.
 
2011-12-03 01:12:42 PM
I'd biatch about living in St. Pete, but posting about it would only be depressing...
 
2011-12-03 01:18:13 PM
I submitted this with a similar headline.

Why does Florida have the saddest cities in America? If you were waiting for God to kill you, you'd be sad too

/Grew up in north Clearwater/Dunedin area.
//Not sad, St. Pete is.
///Transplants unhappy there as they were where they came from, yes.
 
2011-12-03 01:19:29 PM
I note with interest this is a Daily Mail story, and must wonder which one of the UK's cities is the saddest. Now that's a keen competition with many worthy contestants.
 
2011-12-03 02:08:23 PM
Creoena: Manchester, NH is one of the happiest cities to live in? I've been there once and it was enough to make me want to commit suicide

Really? My best friends live there and I love it. Everything in walking distance, plenty of national events rolling through, and only an hour from Boston if you are lame enough to not find anything to do.
 
2011-12-03 02:19:06 PM
I lived in the St Pete area for a while. I didn't like it that much. Too many people crammed in one small area, traffic sucked, crime was very high. I read that the juvenile crime was higher in Pinellas County than in any other area of FL, higher than Miami/Dade.

Beaches were nice, but those of us who had to actually work didn't get a lot of time to hang out on the beach or go fishing. Now the beaches are lined with hi-rise condos, cramming even more people in a small area.

Pinellas County is going to fall in if too many more people move there.
 
2011-12-03 02:35:24 PM
Salt Lick Steady: rocketpants: MayoSlather: Orlando is a much nicer city

[i.imgur.com image 360x226]

My thoughts exactly. Orlando is layers of fail, unless I guess you're a tourist taking your shiat machine to Disney to enjoy a weekend of getting wallet raped and soul sucked.


Ever drive down East Colonial/Highway 50 in Orlando? It's the most depressing road I have seen in my entire life.
 
2011-12-03 02:48:34 PM
It'd be a lot happier if the Rays had a new stadium.
 
2011-12-03 02:59:14 PM
Moodybastard: sigdiamond2000: The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.

(Insert your momma joke)

One of the reasons for so many Florida cities getting the "most depressing tag" is you have so many attractions, so many destinations that the common folk can't afford. Pro sports teams, amusement/theme parks, concerts, resorts...

And you get to see all the beautiful people enjoying them while you work to maintain them...if you're lucky.

With that kind of pay, who can take their family to see a football game or go to Disney? Hell, its a big family outing to take the family to the movies.

So, yes, it can be very depressing.


Truer words never spoken. The wages in Florida are a joke. Most of the people who enjoy Florida made their money elsewhere. Where I used to live (the panhandle), the wage disparity was incredibly apparent. Pensacola is 8 hours away from anything worth visiting in Florida so there is that too.

/Beaches there are beautiful though.
//Beach gets old after a few days.
 
2011-12-03 03:35:49 PM
b0rg9: Confabulat: St Pete is awesome. That is all.


Shhhh...let everyone keep believing how much this place sucks.

/makes my drive from Clwtr. to Tarpon every day easier


Tarpon Springs is freakin' awesome! If you can get past the rows of stores selling the same godawful sponge-related crap, there are a lot of fantastic Greek restaurants. The museum of sponge diving is hilarious for its ridiculous badness, and the waterfront and sponge docks are lovely. St. Pete, on the other hand...I don't think I've ever seen so many billboards for funeral homes, nursing homes and assisted living facilities. Not sure where they moved the Dali museum, but that was the one good draw for me.
 
2011-12-03 03:37:08 PM
img1.fark.net Submitted this with a funnier headline and more appropriate tag.
 
2011-12-03 04:37:07 PM
sigdiamond2000: The entire state of Florida smells like boiled ass.

That's just the residual from when your mom visited.


St. Pete gets a bad rap because people travel there to commit suicide by jumping off the Sunshine Skyway Bridge.
 
2011-12-03 05:13:06 PM
StrikitRich: St. Pete gets a bad rap because people travel there to commit suicide by jumping off the Sunshine Skyway Bridge

That has to be a biatch too because to add insult to injury, you have to pay a toll to get to the top. So you don't even get your money's worth.
 
2011-12-03 05:18:14 PM
I too get depressed when I'm not freezing cold, shoveling snow, and scraping ice off my car for 2-6 months.
 
2011-12-03 05:39:25 PM
FriarReb98: If Saint Petersburg is so awesome, why doesn't anyone from Tampa want to go there for a Rays game?

Because the traffic situation is beyond miserable. Our roads seem to have been lain out by a drunken monkey.
 
2011-12-03 06:19:54 PM
St. Petersburg

Home to the newly wed and the nearly dead
 
2011-12-03 06:35:02 PM
HAHA! I live in the #4 happiest city in the country. Must be the Free Hooker Thursdays, or Half-Price Blow Mondays.


/...I've said too much.
//Seriously though, weed is cheap here, and we've got some pretty kick-ass weed laws. And most cops don't give a fark anyways.
 
2011-12-03 06:46:01 PM
mrpants5587: Born and raised and posting from St. Pete.

I like it.

/Is also a "20 something" as someone mentioned earlier
//Haters gonna hate.


nice. i like when people stand up, more people should. support the home teams too along with the local music scene. life is what you make it, every day.

been to St.Pete. very nice. would go back or move there without hesitation. sunshine, nice people, some incredible samples of architecture and pieces of history there. motorcyclists w/o helmets freaked me right out, otherwise it's aces.
 
2011-12-03 07:23:57 PM
St Pete traffic is horrendous, the roads crap full of disarray, the street signs barely visible, the lanes suspiciously thinner than the rest of the county for some reason, crackvill pretty much most of the center and south. But the beach, downtown are an oasis if you have the money. The only other reason to visit downtown is for the St Pete Grand Prix. I'm a north county boy, nothing south of Clearwater for me, currently residing in the best town of Pinellas, Dunedin, and have been for a decade. My friend killed himself in Pasco which I would say is much worse than St Pete. I woulda killed myself to get out of that shiathole.
 
2011-12-03 07:35:55 PM
Visiting St. Pete for work next week, will get to see first hand if you guys are really sadder than Detroit.
 
2011-12-03 07:40:36 PM
Dunedin ? do you live anywhere near that crazy whore who was terrorizing her neighbors for the last 10 years ? the one firing guns at their homes , putting giant spotlights on their bedroom windows at night and trying to run their kids over ?

anyway , st.pete ? blacks , gays and old people . nothing to see here , move along ....
 
2011-12-03 07:46:11 PM
also Dunedin had the best damn chinc buffet , Buffet 2000 . freaking awesome till they closed it . we used to eat there every sunday after worship ping the devil . good times ....
 
2011-12-03 07:57:50 PM
MayoSlather: As for Tampa...it's 90% ghetto strip mall. Orlando is a much nicer city, though it certainly has plenty of crappy areas as well.

A lot of folks in Orlando seem to have attitude problems, probably attributable in part to the massive influx of folks from NY and NJ right after 9/11. Many business owners in the Orlando area seem to have this up-yours-take-it-or-leave-it attitude. Don't even get me started about some of the HOAs and neighborhood busybodies. When I lived in that area, I would regularly make a point to ask people where they were from. The true Florida natives generally tended to be friendlier and better adjusted than the transplants. A lot of people who move into the area don't seem to understand that one of the things you're supposed to do when you move to Florida is leave the uptight attitude and rude, inconsiderate behavior up north. What's the point of moving to a place as beautiful as Florida (and it is beautiful, if you'll just stop long enough to notice it) if you're just going to muck it up with that obnoxious demeanor from back home? While that pushy, tough behavior might have impressed people up there, all it does is make you look like a dick down here (of course, I guess some people want to be perceived as dicks...)

Another thing I didn't like about Orlando was the damned drinking water... Always smelled/tasted like a mix of sulfur and cat piss... especially in the UCF end of town.

As for places in Florida that are sad or depressing... try driving out to Lehigh Acres in Lee County or Immokalee in Collier County. Or go to some of the plantation worker towns near the southeastern end of Lake Okeechobee (Belle Glade, Pahokee, etc.).
 
2011-12-03 08:26:40 PM
It's my sister city with Takamatsu, Japan. We're happy here. Maybe we need to send you some love, St Pete!
 
2011-12-03 09:04:51 PM
In contrast, Honolulu, Hawaii - the birth place of U.S. President Barack Obama - is the happiest place to live... Like Americans don't know by now Obama was born Muslim in Zimbabwe.
 
2011-12-03 11:04:08 PM
I live in Florida now. I thought it was going to be nicer than Virginia, but nope. The rudest pieces of shiat people live here in Florida. I was stationed in Virginia, the Norfolk area, for about 14 years and everywhere there the people were nice and everything was nice and clean. Much cleaner than Florida and I swear to God the people here in Florida are farking rude. Couldn't give you the time of farking day. I'm actually thinking about dumping the house I live in just to get the fark out of here.
 
2011-12-03 11:30:14 PM
Sure seems like Terri Schiavo bore the wait quite a while there.
 
2011-12-03 11:37:56 PM
Granted, some of the things posted about FLORIDA in general are true. Floridians are rude, self-centered, and have no sense of cornmunity. But St. Pete is really not a bad place as far as FL goes.

AND TO YOU PEOPLE saying "St. Pete traffic is horrible" or

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING? You must have only visited for a baseball game. I've lived here my whole life (I'm 24) and I've ONLY EVER been caught in slow traffic DOWNTOWN NEAR THE BASEBALL FIELD, or of course if there was an accident. Tampa? Fark yeah Tampa has horrendous traffic.

"The roads are laid our horribly"

WHAT?!?

See below... Perfect grid system. Everything is numbered and ordered. Give me an address, ANY address in st. pete and I can find it without a map.
 
2011-12-03 11:39:18 PM
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2011-12-04 12:56:36 AM
"I would note the small exception to this sadness riiiiight at the southern tip of St. Pete. There's a college there which, at least in the 80s, was far too high to be sad about 99% of the time."

Eckerd...my alma mater

'90 with a BS in Bio

Oh...and yeah, High, but sad 80% of the time (except for the Jello Jam, which was 100% AWESOME). No amount of green can override the overpowering sadness that is St. Pete
Try living in the Hotel Detroit...and not slitting your wrists

Left and will NEVER return to Florida
 
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