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(AZCentral) Asinine 1st grader faces sexual harassment charge for punching another boy in the groin. Mom says the other kid choked her son, and says if you consider the punch to be sexual assault, then you need to charge the other boy with attempted murder   (azcentral.com) divider line 151
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2011-12-02 06:48:53 PM
She has a point, a punch to the ballzack is hardly sexual...well ok, at least not for most people.
 
2011-12-02 06:52:00 PM
What is it with DAs lately and charging kids who aren't old enough to know what sex IS with sexual crimes?
 
2011-12-02 07:00:10 PM
cameroncrazy1984: What is it with DAs lately and charging kids who aren't old enough to know what sex IS with sexual crimes?

Can't afford to be soft on crime now can we?
 
2011-12-02 07:02:21 PM
GAT_00: Can't afford to be soft on crime now can we?

well being hard on crime seems a bit sexual
 
2011-12-02 07:25:22 PM
Oh come on, this is SOP isn't it? I mean it was when I was a kid. Someone chokes you, you punch them in the nads. Pretty sure it's even in the constitution or something.
 
2011-12-02 08:20:17 PM
Barfmaker: Oh come on, this is SOP isn't it? I mean it was when I was a kid. Someone chokes you, you punch them in the nads. Pretty sure it's even in the constitution or something.

No, you get the girl you played doctor with to punch him.
 
2011-12-02 08:31:13 PM
This says more about the sexual proclivities of those school officials than anything else.
 
2011-12-02 08:54:27 PM
Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.
 
2011-12-02 09:06:55 PM
Wouldn't a 1st grader be below the age of criminal culpability? No wonder it's being called a form of harassment.
 
2011-12-02 09:14:26 PM
cman: Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.


Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.
 
2011-12-02 09:16:24 PM
GAT_00: cman: Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.

Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.


Its farking insane. I believe that we should be tough on crime, but charging a 6 year old? Thats pathetic.
 
2011-12-02 09:28:38 PM
cman: Its farking insane. I believe that we should be tough on crime, but charging a 6 year old? Thats pathetic.

It's the inevitable result. Can't really be tougher on drugs at this point. Hell, can't be tougher on anything except getting tough on crimes that don't have mandatory minimums, and mandatory minimums are there for crimes minorities commit largely. So you've got to go after kids.
 
2011-12-02 09:38:03 PM
cameroncrazy1984: What is it with DAs lately and charging kids who aren't old enough to know what sex IS with sexual crimes?

Lawyers are scumbags with a flair for the dramatic?
 
2011-12-02 10:52:46 PM
Johnny Cage wins.

Legality.
 
2011-12-02 11:06:17 PM
This is common in Mass. Bully does whatever he wants and the parents stick up for him even suing the other kids parents into submission.
 
2011-12-02 11:10:01 PM
This is why kids need guns.
 
2011-12-02 11:10:59 PM
also, this:
media.comicvine.com
 
2011-12-02 11:14:44 PM
Choking is sexual.

Erotic asphyxiation (new window)

Tit for tat.

/It was consensual
 
2011-12-02 11:19:07 PM
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You gotta do what you gotta do.
 
2011-12-02 11:20:58 PM
Bobby Hill wanted for questioning.
 
2011-12-02 11:21:58 PM
cameroncrazy1984: What is it with DAs lately and charging kids who aren't old enough to know what sex IS with sexual crimes?

"The mother of a Boston elementary school first-grader being investigated for possible sexual harassment for punching another boy in the groin says her son acted in self-defense."

Nowhere does it say that the DA is charging anyone with anything.

Lynch says because her son punched the other boy in the groin, school officials say they consider it sexual assault

The mother of the child says the school considers this sexual assault.

I work for CPS in my state. I can tell you we get complaints similar to this all the time. Nobody in the agency (or in any law enforcement agency) would see this as being of a sexual nature (unless there was far more to the story). However, what we often get in a situation like this is the agency doing one thing and parents or institution staff telling the media something completely different.
 
2011-12-02 11:24:10 PM
So hypothetically, if I got these kids to hit me in the groin, they'd be charged, not me?
 
2011-12-02 11:24:43 PM
GAT_00: cman: Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.

Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.


FTFY.

Just talking points. Practically everyone gets elected by being "tough on crime" nowadays. NOBODY is getting any points for saying "I don't consider this not to be a crime."
 
2011-12-02 11:24:43 PM
I must say, I was outraged until I actually read the article.

For one thing no one is being criminally charged just yet, the investigation is being done completely within the school. And for that matter the investigation is still ongoing.

In all likelihood the school will quietly determine that no actual sexual harassment occurred. They'll then deal out the typical penalties for fighting based on what they can determine about the fight. They just have to call it a "sexual harassment investigation" because a complaint of sexual harassment was registered.
 
2011-12-02 11:24:47 PM
Godalmighty this is like the flip side of the McMartin daycare fiasco. Instead of a bunch of kids being corralled into making bizarre accusations about their caretakers, you've got some idiotic adult maroons accusing little children of crimes so far beyond the pale, it has risen to ever-increasing levels of insanity.

Somebody needs a-slapping, and it aint the kids.
 
2011-12-02 11:26:15 PM
When I hear these totally ludicrous stories I am often able to assume that there's "more to it" than the article provides and/or the information, as presented, is slanted in a way to make the "other side" look stupid.

I cannot, for the life of me, come up with anyway at all in which a 7yr old would be guilty of sexual harassment.
 
2011-12-02 11:27:23 PM
Cockpunch!
 
2011-12-02 11:27:39 PM
Amos Quito: Choking is sexual.

Erotic asphyxiation (new window)

Tit for tat.

/It was consensual


upload.wikimedia.org
"Turn off ma f*ckin gas!"
 
2011-12-02 11:29:40 PM
Anything you do only once, absent any context of past negative conduct with a person, is not harassment. By definition harassment is repeated unwanted conduct.

And nobody punches or kicks the groin because it's sexual. It's because it hurts like hell.
 
2011-12-02 11:29:44 PM
Obviously the choker needs to go to the electric chair and the cockpuncher needs to go to general population in Walpole.

Obviously.

There's a Dropkick Murphys song in there somewhere. Goddamn.
 
2011-12-02 11:29:54 PM
Philbb: When I hear these totally ludicrous stories I am often able to assume that there's "more to it" than the article provides and/or the information, as presented, is slanted in a way to make the "other side" look stupid.

I cannot, for the life of me, come up with anyway at all in which a 7yr old would be guilty of sexual harassment.


Assigning sexual qualities to individuals that aren't old enough to know otherwise. When I was that age, I invited a girl to a birthday sleepover. It took a fact omitted talking to by my parents to explain that it wasn't an appropriate thing, but no real reasons given. To be fair, she was the only girl invited, but we didn't know any better than she was the pretty girl, we were boys, and girls were to be liked.
 
2011-12-02 11:30:22 PM
Don't they say rape is a violent crime, not a sexual crime?
 
2011-12-02 11:31:48 PM
Gyrfalcon: GAT_00: cman: Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.

Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.

FTFY.

Just talking points. Practically everyone gets elected by being "tough on crime" nowadays. NOBODY is getting any points for saying "I don't consider this not to be a crime."


pics.blameitonthevoices.com
 
2011-12-02 11:32:02 PM
GAT_00:
Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.

In Boston?

Getting elected on Republican talking points in Boston?

You've lost your mind.

The school officials are the ones who decided to make it a "sexual assault" problem - one guess what political party they DON'T belong to? In Boston?

From the Boston Globe:
"Matthew Wilder, spokesman for the Boston public schools, declined to comment on the incident or why it has been classified as a possible case of sexual harassment. He said officials do not discuss confidential student information.
'Any kind of inappropriate touching would fall under that category,' Wilder said.
Wilder declined to comment on any possible calls to the state, but said generally they are legally obligated to report incidents of sexual misconduct to the agency.
'We're mandatory reporters as a school employee,' he said. 'We have to report any type of accusation of sexual assault or sexual harassment that is reported to a school employee.'"
 
2011-12-02 11:32:37 PM
Mom's dead on... for once.
 
2011-12-02 11:32:42 PM
GAT_00: cman: Sometimes I cannot believe all the crap that happens in my country.

What the fark happened to common sense? A 6 year old is still learning right from wrong.

Again, the reason for this is the endless mantra of soft on crime. DAs make their record based on how many convictions they get, and how hard they are on crime, a phenomenon completely caused by Republican talking points. That's what happened to common sense.


Our culture of celebrity worship is the perfect petri dish for these lawyers and gung-ho LEOs to grab hold of the most salacious circumstances and turn them into the creepiest headline blood sports, just to get on the celebrity bandwagon.

Cripes, get a grip on reality.
 
2011-12-02 11:33:55 PM
cretinbob: also, this:
[media.comicvine.com image 580x299]


Wins the thread.
 
2011-12-02 11:33:58 PM
Gyrfalcon: Practically everyone gets elected by being "tough on crime" nowadays.

But it started with Richard Nixon and George Wallace. Everyone was forced to adopt it because otherwise white voters went against you in a landslide.

Read up on some history.
 
2011-12-02 11:34:46 PM
Barfmaker: Someone chokes you, you punch them in the nads.

cdn.thenextweb.com

That's the Boston way.
 
2011-12-02 11:38:46 PM
Amos Quito 2011-12-02 11:14:44 PM
Choking is sexual.

Erotic asphyxiation (new window)

Tit for tat.

HI, MY NAME IS TAT!
 
2011-12-02 11:39:35 PM
She has a point. Fight abject stupidity with abject stupidity.
 
2011-12-02 11:39:37 PM
Clawhammer: She has a point, a punch to the ballzack is hardly sexual...well ok, at least not for most people.

Would a donkey punch be sexual assault on a 1st grader?
 
2011-12-02 11:43:10 PM
404 page not found: Amos Quito: Choking is sexual.

Erotic asphyxiation (new window)

Tit for tat.

/It was consensual

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"Turn off ma f*ckin gas!"


Filth is on my list, I have a good majority of his clean public service novels. I'm missing that one, how is it?
 
2011-12-02 11:43:14 PM
Indolent: Wouldn't a 1st grader be below the age of criminal culpability?

That's pre-9/11 thinking, Citizen. Zero Tolerance! Gotta catch them turrists and peedofiles early, dontcha know?
 
2011-12-02 11:43:17 PM
GAT_00: Gyrfalcon: Practically everyone gets elected by being "tough on crime" nowadays.

But it started with Richard Nixon and George Wallace. Everyone was forced to adopt it because otherwise white voters went against you in a landslide.

Read up on some history.


Oh, true. I was talking about nowadays. It's not just for Republicans anymore.
 
2011-12-02 11:46:25 PM
Sexual harassment? Under no circumstances would anyone punching me in the junk ever be sexual to me.
 
2011-12-02 11:46:32 PM
Kind of strange that in the same Arizona schools adults can paddle a student on the butt legally . . .

I am strongly against corporal punishment for the reason that abuse is wrong, but I think it's hard to deny the buttocks are also a sexual region of the body.

And of course circumcision of boys is legal in all 50 states.

I would prefer a punch to a groin from someone of the same age as me than an adult hitting a child's butt or touching and cutting his genitals. Seems more innocent somehow . . .
 
2011-12-02 11:48:39 PM
unicron702: Sexual harassment? Under no circumstances would anyone punching me in the junk ever be sexual to me.

I give you a half hour with someone who considers this their business, then a reconsideration.
 
2011-12-02 11:49:17 PM
kidsizedcoffin: unicron702: Sexual harassment? Under no circumstances would anyone punching me in the junk ever be sexual to me.

I give you a half hour with someone who considers this their business, then a reconsideration.


Ghastly? Your opinion is needed here.
 
2011-12-02 11:49:32 PM
quickdraw: This says more about the sexual proclivities of those school officials than anything else.

It wouldn't surprise me if nearly all school administrators and goons at the various child protective services were pedos.
 
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