Listened to him being interviewed on ESPN Radio. Said he asked for his release, and the Vikings were nice enough to grant it. Said he had a lot more football in him. My internal BS meter was going off the charts.

Feel almost bad for him. Seems like a decent fellow, been to a Superbowl and a couple of NFC championships, then kind of fell off the map. Sad when people don't know when their time is up.

Someone will probably sign him to a cheaper contract than his waiver one.

He fell off the cliff with a quickness

jemele hill is probably foaming at the mouth over the column she'll get to write because of this

Donnchadha: His career just ends when the time is up? I didn't realize that was in the rule book. He was probably just hoping to get out there and have another shot.

I'm sure he is. Look at Brett Favre, signed with the Jets, did very well for the first half of the season, moved to the Vikes, did very well until the NFC championship, then he didn't have it in him any more. McNabb is probably just done, but doesn't want to admit it.

I hope he does get signed and gets another shot.

I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Or a HC who actually ran the ball.

animesucks: jemele hill is probably foaming at the mouth over the column she'll get to write because of this

God, espn's race-baiter in residence. She and Wilbon still think he has something in the tank. So they both think it's still 2007?

Pratty: AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Or a HC who actually ran the ball.

Or, Tebow forbid, both of those things?

Ken VeryBigLiar: She and Wilbon still think he has something in the tank.

McNabb just turned 35, it's not like he's Jeff George thinking he can still play.

WhyteRaven74: Ken VeryBigLiar: She and Wilbon still think he has something in the tank.

McNabb just turned 35, it's not like he's Jeff George thinking he can still play.

True, but reports are he couldn't be bothered to get in shape for the last two teams he joined. Not a trend I see changing much at that age.

Marcus Aurelius: If the NFL would just allow pass completions on a single hop, his career would undergo a renaissance.

Awesome.

He and Tiki Barber should try to join the same team.

AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Or a HC who actually ran the ball.

Or, Tebow forbid, both of those things?

My god, you're INSANE!

AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Or a HC who actually ran the ball.

Or, Tebow forbid, both of those things?

And the poor bastard ran into the steroid-suspended Panthers defense in one of the NFC championship games and New England during spygate (i know, still bitter, if you are new, people let me have this). Mind you, no one makes the argument that he is Brady/Manning, but he was really close to greatness and things always broke the other way. 2002 is really the one that could be blamed on his bad day. The NO divisional game and the Cardinals game, the defense let the team down.

Also to put it in perspective, in McNabb's years he had one sub-.500 season (6-10) after he became the full year starter. They'll manage that this year with a decent running back and better WRs then he had. Mind you, things also fell apart after Johnson's death so maybe he was really the best of everyone.

JJRRutgers: Said he had a lot more football in him.

ohh he does have more football in him, he just didnt say where, go get a rubber glove

No team was going to claim him off waivers for 2 reasons: a.) it was too late in the week to expect him to make an impact to the team, b.) since he's cleared waivers, teams can pay him the league minimum.

He will be on an NFL team next week.

\He's still better than a 1/3 of the league QBs right now.

JJRRutgers: Listened to him being interviewed on ESPN Radio. Said he asked for his release, and the Vikings were nice enough to grant it. Said he had a lot more football in him. My internal BS meter was going off the charts.

I can buy it. He just watched the Texans and Bears try out every single misfit under the Sun, and he must have been screaming at the TV and/or his agent "I'M BETTER THAN THESE ASSCLOWNS!"

Whether or not he is better is obviously up for debate

AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Enough with McNabb and his lack of wide receivers. He had plenty of opportunities in the playoffs WITHOUT a T.O. and he couldn't get the job done when it really counted. How bout they run the ball more(not mcnabbs fault there though)? He's done a lot of great things with the Eagles, but Tom Brady didn't need a T.O. to win his rings. McNabb could've done the same thing if he had the testicular fortitude.

Call me a jaded Eagles fan, but the second he said he "DIDNT KNOW" there was only one quarter in the overtime period, I completely lost it.

Arent teams on the hook for his contract for the rest of the year if they pick him up?

Maybe they just didnt want to pay that for him as an insurance plan, didnt the vikings sign him as their starter?

Marcus Aurelius: If the NFL would just allow pass completions on a single hop, his career would undergo a renaissance.

Hey, his APA* was among the best in the league and according to ESPN, statistics are the only basis we should be concerned about.

*Ankle Pass Accuacy

steamingpile: Arent teams on the hook for his contract for the rest of the year if they pick him up?

Nobody claimed him off waivers by the Friday deadline. The old contract is void and he is now free to sign with anyone, with the established veteran minimum as a basement for negotiations

Marcus Aurelius: If the NFL would just allow pass completions on a single hop, his career would undergo a renaissance.

I believe they allow that in the NFL Wheelchair rules.

Mercutio879: Feel almost bad for him. Seems like a decent fellow, been to a Superbowl and a couple of NFC championships, then kind of fell off the map. Sad when people don't know when their time is up.

This is a perfect example of why there should be a minor league or division 2 NFL or whatever you want to call it. Not only would you have top class 18 year old talent, you would have not quite good enough for the NFL but still some gas in the tank type players.

He's still a perfectly mediocre quarterback. Won't take you to the playoffs, but won't lose you any more games than most QBs would. I'd rather have him than whoever is QBing for the Texans this week.

steamingpile: Arent teams on the hook for his contract for the rest of the year if they pick him up?

Maybe they just didnt want to pay that for him as an insurance plan, didnt the vikings sign him as their starter?

Nope, since he was on the Vikings opening day roster and went unclaimed the Vikings pay off his deal for this year but get a compensatory pick (probably at the end of the 6th or 7th). Any new team that picks him up can pay him the veteran minimum and he can now double dip for his ineptitude.

PlymouthMeetingMall: AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Enough with McNabb and his lack of wide receivers. He had plenty of opportunities in the playoffs WITHOUT a T.O. and he couldn't get the job done when it really counted. How bout they run the ball more(not mcnabbs fault there though)? He's done a lot of great things with the Eagles, but Tom Brady didn't need a T.O. to win his rings. McNabb could've done the same thing if he had the testicular fortitude.

So your argument against McNabb is that he's not as good as Tom Brady? That isn't really indicative of anything. But at the same time let's compare the receivers McNabb had with the receivers Brady had. McNabb was working with first Charles Johnson and Torrance Small, who when they left the Eagles were, oddly enough, the 4th and 5th WRs for the Patriots when they won their first title. Then McNabb was lucky to have the great James Thrash (fresh off being the 3rd WR for the Redskins for one season after being buried on their depth chart), Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Brady was working with Troy Brown, David Patten, Deion Branch, and David Givens.

Now what happened when those players left these teams? Again, CJ and Small were buried on depth charts. Thrash went back to being a 4th or 5th wide receiver and special teams player. Todd Pinkson and Freddie Mitchell were out of the league, getting sniffs in training camps but not lasting long at all. Troy Brown retired a Patriot. David Patten was signed to a decent contract with the Redskins and after two injury-plagued seasons there went to New Orleans and had a darn good season in 2007 before falling off due to age. Givens signed a big deal with the Titans but a torn ACL ended his career. Branch was traded for a first round pick and played well for Seattle for a few years before going back to the Patriots.

The point is that Brady at least had receivers that were desirable by other teams. Clearly they had talent and skill. Donovan was playing with guys who no one else wanted at all. So saying that Donovan sucks because Brady did it with similar talent is both unfair (no one's saying McNabb is as good as Brady) and false. Brady didn't have a TO (until he had Randy Moss) but he had much better quality receivers than McNabb did.

Call me a jaded Eagles fan, but the second he said he "DIDNT KNOW" there was only one quarter in the overtime period, I completely lost it.

That's fair. Donovan should have known the rule. But to me that statement was just as much a damnation of Andy Reid as it is Donovan. It means that Reid doesn't coach situational football if his players (Donovan was not alone in his ignorance, he just was the one asked on live TV) are not aware of overtime rules. It's the job of the coaches to make sure players know what they need to do in specific situations, especially late in the game and in overtime. Reid's teams have always been bad in those situation regardless of who is playing QB. Donovan deserves blame for not knowing the rules but at the same time it shows just how incompetent Reid is as a head coach.

Doesn't practice hard, can't or won't study the playbook, wouldn't wear the plays on a wristband in Washington because it, "looks stupid", although finally agreed in Minnesota. His athletic ability kept him going with the Eagles, but his work ethic is for shiat and now that he's older it's exposing him.

animesucks: jemele hill is probably foaming at the mouth over the column she'll get to write because of this

She's one of the main reasons I'm currently boycotting espn.

/though, to be honest, there's thousands of them.

What I couldn't understand is how many media and fans wanted him in Chicago. Because what McNabb needs is a more complicated offense, no time to learn it and a poor group of receivers.

I hear Al Davis is looking to draft a QB.

So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

AdmirableSnackbar: PlymouthMeetingMall: AdmirableSnackbar: I think he's done. It's a shame that he only had one season with a quality WR. He was a borderline Hall of Famer with WRs that were out of the league when they left the Eagles. Imagine if he'd had TO (or a TO-level WR) for 7 or 8 years. Great work, Andy Reid.

Enough with McNabb and his lack of wide receivers. He had plenty of opportunities in the playoffs WITHOUT a T.O. and he couldn't get the job done when it really counted. How bout they run the ball more(not mcnabbs fault there though)? He's done a lot of great things with the Eagles, but Tom Brady didn't need a T.O. to win his rings. McNabb could've done the same thing if he had the testicular fortitude.

So your argument against McNabb is that he's not as good as Tom Brady? That isn't really indicative of anything. But at the same time let's compare the receivers McNabb had with the receivers Brady had. McNabb was working with first Charles Johnson and Torrance Small, who when they left the Eagles were, oddly enough, the 4th and 5th WRs for the Patriots when they won their first title. Then McNabb was lucky to have the great James Thrash (fresh off being the 3rd WR for the Redskins for one season after being buried on their depth chart), Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell. Brady was working with Troy Brown, David Patten, Deion Branch, and David Givens.

Now what happened when those players left these teams? Again, CJ and Small were buried on depth charts. Thrash went back to being a 4th or 5th wide receiver and special teams player. Todd Pinkson and Freddie Mitchell were out of the league, getting sniffs in training camps but not lasting long at all. Troy Brown retired a Patriot. David Patten was signed to a decent contract with the Redskins and after two injury-plagued seasons there went to New Orleans and had a darn good season in 2007 before falling off due to age. Givens signed a big deal with the Titans but a torn ACL ended his career. Branch was traded for a first round pick and played well for Seattle for a few years before going back to the Patriots.

The point is that Brady at least had receivers that were desirable by other teams. Clearly they had talent and skill. Donovan was playing with guys who no one else wanted at all. So saying that Donovan sucks because Brady did it with similar talent is both unfair (no one's saying McNabb is as good as Brady) and false. Brady didn't have a TO (until he had Randy Moss) but he had much better quality receivers than McNabb did.

Call me a jaded Eagles fan, but the second he said he "DIDNT KNOW" there was only one quarter in the overtime period, I completely lost it.

That's fair. Donovan should have known the rule. But to me that statement was just as much a damnation of Andy Reid as it is Donovan. It means that Reid doesn't coach situational football if his players (Donovan was not alone in his ignorance, he just was the one asked on live TV) are not aware of overtime rules. It's the job of the coaches to make sure players know what they need to do in specific situations, especially late in the game and in overtime. Reid's teams have always been bad in those situation regardless of who is playing QB. Donovan deserves blame for not knowing the rules but at the same time it shows just how incompetent Reid is as a head coach.

I can agree on that! I think better coaching could've changed a lot of outcomes. Sometimes I think Reid just used that Eagles defense and hoped Donovan would complete that long bomb to First Down Freddie.

Although I think Branch played like crap in Seattle and never really broke out like he wanted to. Not until he came back to New England! Hell, even Brady made Jabar Gaffney look good and he was horrendous on the Eagles haha.

Pratty: So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

Goo Goo G'joob.?

Primitive Screwhead: Pratty: So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

Goo Goo G'joob.?

Coached by Ralph Friedgen with Andy Reid as OC, Rob Ryan as DC, and Mike Holmgren as GM...maybe have Jared Lorenzen as backup QB?

AdmirableSnackbar: Primitive Screwhead: Pratty: So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

Goo Goo G'joob.?

Coached by Ralph Friedgen with Andy Reid as OC, Rob Ryan as DC, and Mike Holmgren as GM...maybe have Jared Lorenzen as backup QB?

Where does Mangino fit into this, though?

Pratty: AdmirableSnackbar: Primitive Screwhead: Pratty: So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

Goo Goo G'joob.?

Coached by Ralph Friedgen with Andy Reid as OC, Rob Ryan as DC, and Mike Holmgren as GM...maybe have Jared Lorenzen as backup QB?

Where does Mangino fit into this, though?

He doesn't fit into anywhere!

AdmirableSnackbar: Pratty: AdmirableSnackbar: Primitive Screwhead: Pratty: So, what would happen if JaWalrus and LenWhale were on the same team?

Goo Goo G'joob.?

Coached by Ralph Friedgen with Andy Reid as OC, Rob Ryan as DC, and Mike Holmgren as GM...maybe have Jared Lorenzen as backup QB?

Where does Mangino fit into this, though?

He doesn't fit into anywhere!

It might just be because it's almost 8 AM and I haven't slept, but I farking lol'd.