I suppose it depends on how Billo defines "conservative".

Honestly, I don't even know what the fark "conservative" and "liberal" mean in our political discourse anymore.

It seems more and more that they're just poorly defined labels used by divisive splitters.

Well,
A) Romney doesn't actually have any beliefs, so on a scale from -10 (liberal) to +10 (conservative), he gets a potato.
B) Newt treats every random brain-fart that wafts through his mind as a brilliant, world-changing insight, so his actual position on the political spectrum changes every 10 minutes. I guess we can take the time-average and give him a +5.

Therefore, 5 is greater than potato.

/there, I've explained it.
//I forgot what we were talking about

Newt is going to be the nominee, the media and the rank in file are falling line.

DarnoKonrad: Newt is going to be the nominee, the media and the rank in file are falling line.

Well, it's not like any free people would ever choose to elect an authoritarian sociopath. I, for one, am not worried.

DarnoKonrad: Newt is going to be the nominee, the media and the rank in file are falling line.

Newt sure isn't conserving his wives. At this rate he'll burn through his allotted 5 before he even gets to his perfect afterlife wife. You know, that hot blonde you don't meet till after you die and then you get to go on afterlife dates? Those are great. God chaperones you for the few times so you gotta sneak off to some distance galaxy he isn't giving a shiat about at the moment and then you fark inside a sun. if you're a smooth enough talker though you might get some black hole action.

DarnoKonrad: Newt is going to be the nominee, the media and the rank in file are falling line.

It's too early to tell. Not a single primary vote has been cast yet, in any state. Of all the early primaries, he has the best chance of winning Florida, and they don't vote until January 31st. Super Tuesday is more than three months away. Let's wait and see if Newt can hold it together for the next three months without getting caught in a parking garage with his pants around his ankles again.

GhostFish: Honestly, I don't even know what the fark "conservative" and "liberal" mean in our political discourse anymore.

It seems more and more that they're just poorly defined labels used by divisive splitters.

Conservative -> Wealth-worshiping xenophobe.
Liberal -> Anyone who doesn't worship the wealthy and/or hate foreigners enough.

GhostFish: Honestly, I don't even know what the fark "conservative" and "liberal" mean in our political discourse anymore.

It seems more and more that they're just poorly defined labels used by divisive splitters.

It gets more confusing when people try to apply the definitions from years and years ago to today. What was a republican in Lincoln's time is not a republican of today.

I'm glad they don't like Mitt. They might have had a chance of winning next year if they nominated him.

Surool: I'm glad they don't like Mitt. They might have had a chance of winning next year if they nominated him.

The only (R)s that could beat Obama after bagging Osama are Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike or Reagan. Obama is in dead girl-live boy territory when the economic message of all (R)s is more tax cuts for the rich.

GhostFish: Honestly, I don't even know what the fark "conservative" and "liberal" mean in our political discourse anymore.

It seems more and more that they're just poorly defined labels used by divisive splitters.

These days "Conservative" means "eager to funnel as much money as possible upwards to people who already have plenty of it".


vernonFL: Romney has only been married once.

Gingrich has been married three times.

Gingrich obviously loves traditional marriage more than Romney.

No, it just means Newt loves his country SO MUCH that he wants to fark everyone in it.

bootman: Surool: I'm glad they don't like Mitt. They might have had a chance of winning next year if they nominated him.

The only (R)s that could beat Obama after bagging Osama are Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike or Reagan. Obama is in dead girl-live boy territory when the economic message of all (R)s is more tax cuts for the rich.

My dad, NRA member... photo of GWB on his wall, will not be voting Republican next year. No way, no day. Like a lot of former Republifans, he will most likely not cast a vote for President.

Surool: I'm glad they don't like Mitt. They might have had a chance of winning next year if they nominated him.

The more I see of Mitt, the less I like him. I'm OK with the him being a wooden automaton with the personality of white paste and no visible charisma. I'm OK with him being a cranky defensive jerk who attacks interviewers instead of answering questions. I'm even OK with him running a vulture capitalist firm that destroyed jobs and bankrupt companies to make a buck. When I thought that those were Romney's only problem, I would have considered him a viable alternative to Obama.

But I'm not OK with someone who clearly bases all of his ideals and core convictions on the latest polling data to cross his election consultant's desk. Voters want their President to have convictions and principles. If Romney ever had any, he buried them in a box in his back yard years ago.

Evil Kirk vs Bad Ash: Newt sure isn't conserving his wives. At this rate he'll burn through his allotted 5 before he even gets to his perfect afterlife wife. You know, that hot blonde you don't meet till after you die and then you get to go on afterlife dates? Those are great. God chaperones you for the few times so you gotta sneak off to some distance galaxy he isn't giving a shiat about at the moment and then you fark inside a sun. if you're a smooth enough talker though you might get some black hole action.

How do you know these things?

bootman: Surool: I'm glad they don't like Mitt. They might have had a chance of winning next year if they nominated him.

The only (R)s that could beat Obama after bagging Osama are Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Ike or Reagan. Obama is in dead girl-live boy territory when the economic message of all (R)s is more tax cuts for the rich.

Especially with the wind-up he's spending the past six months doing. Legitimately going out and banging the drum to get something useful done, explicitly calling out particular members of the (hideously unpopular) congress, making it very clear, front and centre, that he's doing everything he can and is being blocked on all fronts by people who have no useful message of their own. When the time comes to actually campaign it's going to be a massacre.

How is it that Gingrich has had more wives than the two Mormon candidates combined?

Given that neither one has ever had a concrete policy position they wouldn't switch for political purposes, I have to assume BillO is saying that the Newt stuck it to the Libs back in the day and Mittens appeased the Libs in Massachusetts. Or something.

jm105: How is it that Gingrich has had more wives than the two Mormon candidates combined?

nice

Mittens didn't win the Murdoch Primary (new window)

GhostFish: Honestly, I don't even know what the fark "conservative" and "liberal" mean in our political discourse anymore.

It seems more and more that they're just poorly defined labels used by divisive splitters.

This

Calling Newt Gingrich "more conservative" than Mitt Romney is like calling Bill Clinton "more faithful to his spouse" than Ted Kennedy

As usual, Bill is correct. Romney is more of a much more moderate conservative then Newt. I really hope Romney gets the nomination. I think he is the only Republican who has a chance of beating Obama.

Both are unscrupulous old men desperate for one last shot at power before the inevitable bite of obscurity. Conservatism and liberalism don't even factor into it any longer. They've lost their souls.

Conservatives, in regard to Mitt Romney, now know how Democrats felt about John Kerry. Mitt being some sort of evil John Kerry.

I gave up trying to explain the Republican presidential contenders after the second debate. Now I just watch them like I would some LSD inspired alternative reality comic.

hubiestubert: I'm not certain what that's supposed to mean.....

It means Romney probably overplayed his "inevitabilty" hand as a candidate and turned down some offers from Fox News, and now there's a pound of flesh to pay.

If Romney gets the nominee, the right wing nutters will stay home during the presidential elections and use the excuse "I didn't vote for him" when he loses. They're fickle, dumb bastards.

InmanRoshi: hubiestubert: I'm not certain what that's supposed to mean.....

It means Romney probably overplayed his "inevitabilty" hand as a candidate and turned down some offers from Fox News, and now there's a pound of flesh to pay.

UCFRoadWarrior: Calling Newt Gingrich "more conservative" than Mitt Romney is like calling Bill Clinton "more faithful to his spouse" than Ted Kennedy

WTF are you talking about? Newt is definitely conservative. Mitt...well he's whatever polls best at any particular time.

quickdraw: Newt Gingrich - protecting the sanctity of marriage one wife at a time!

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Jackie - divorced while battling cancer

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Mariann - divorced when diagnosed with MS

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Still kicking. Good luck Mrs.Gingrich and be sure not to age or get sick!

I would like to point out the greatest tragedy of Newt Gingrich. His third wife was, at one time, a beautiful and youthful-looking woman. Newt sucked away her dignity and humanity to fuel himself until she became The Joker.

gimmegimme: quickdraw: Newt Gingrich - protecting the sanctity of marriage one wife at a time!

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Jackie - divorced while battling cancer

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Mariann - divorced when diagnosed with MS

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Still kicking. Good luck Mrs.Gingrich and be sure not to age or get sick!

I would like to point out the greatest tragedy of Newt Gingrich. His third wife was, at one time, a beautiful and youthful-looking woman. Newt sucked away her dignity and humanity to fuel himself until she became The Joker.

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The simple fact that there are three women willing to screw that walking pile of child molester dick-cheese is giving my atheist friends just a little more evidence to prove their point.

Wait, a Mormon is less conservative? What planet is Bill-O living on?

I don't quite understand the Republican strategy. For a long time Obama has looked strong at getting re-elected and there has been no meaningful Republican position against him - calling him a Muslim Socialist who is so weak that he is orchestrating a plan to destroy America doesn't count.

Like in a war or a football game where defeat looks immanent one can intentionally become reckless or run suicide plays where their unexpected audaciousness might snatch victory from defeat - and if you lose it may not matter if you lose big.

Thus the Republican plan to play chicken with destroying the US economy as a desperate attempt to cause Obama's defeat.

What these clowns haven't realized is what happens if their clever plan fails to materialize. They wind up crippling the US and getting branded as the party of dangerous psychopathic idiots. (this doesn't matter to many of the candidates who regard the race just a means to puff up their resume, sell more books, and increase their speaking and lobbying fees)

I guess the smart Republicans are sitting 2012 out and wish like hell the baggers would just shut up and not permanently damage the brand name.

I don't give a single fark about what any of those people think.