The battle of Strasbourg?

"If you are prepared for the zombie apocalypse, you are prepared for anything."

David Daigle, CDC preparedness team

After the breakup of the euro, the only common currency left in Europe will be the NATO 5.56 mm.

The EU is toast. It's all over but the screaming.

GaryPDX: Sure they can, if all the Nation States give up their democracies, bow and pay tribute to Brussels.

We have no god but money, and mammon is its prophet?

If they manage to save the Euro, it will be by moving towards becoming the United States of Europe. I know people are pooh-poohing the idea in public, but that's the net effect of greater fiscal integration. If done correctly, this could help make systemic changes that increase competitiveness and improve all economies.

Germany is really a wild card, though. I wonder if they're intentionally playing the game of brinkmanship to have a disproportionate say in how the process occurs. The net effect would be basically taking over Europe. Why shoot people when they could instead beg you to buy them?

SinPiEqualsZero: If they manage to save the Euro, it will be by moving towards becoming the United States of Europe. I know people are pooh-poohing the idea in public, but that's the net effect of greater fiscal integration. If done correctly, this could help make systemic changes that increase competitiveness and improve all economies.

Germany is really a wild card, though. I wonder if they're intentionally playing the game of brinkmanship to have a disproportionate say in how the process occurs. The net effect would be basically taking over Europe. Why shoot people when they could instead beg you to buy them?

so, you're saying we should move closer to one world government and banking system?

SinPiEqualsZero: If they manage to save the Euro, it will be by moving towards becoming the United States of Europe.

but even if they do this; even if they decide to share the debt amongs all the eurozone countries (with the bonds that Germany's already repeatedly said it won't accept), what do we have? a USE with the same debt, leveraged x times to make it seem like it's not really the same debt? AND all of europe facing ridiculous austerity measures for the next decade+?

I just don't see how integration, really solves the problem; it seems more like it's just shuffling the debt around...then once we find out we've simply shuffled it around, we're right back here.

TrainingWheelsNeeded: so, you're saying we should move closer to one world government and banking system?

That appeared nowhere in my post. I commented on where Europe seemed to be heading, if not in name then certainly in effect. But it may not do anything and we may experience another collapse. We'll see.

asdfbeau: but even if they do this; even if they decide to share the debt amongs all the eurozone countries (with the bonds that Germany's already repeatedly said it won't accept), what do we have? a USE with the same debt, leveraged x times to make it seem like it's not really the same debt? AND all of europe facing ridiculous austerity measures for the next decade+?

I just don't see how integration, really solves the problem; it seems more like it's just shuffling the debt around...then once we find out we've simply shuffled it around, we're right back here.

If they decide to go through with fiscal integration, whether in phases or all at once, they will basically make the entire Eurozone responsible for the debt. That could allow the entire Eurozone to adopt uniform pro-growth policies (much like how our states can build upon but cannot weaken labor laws) and make the zone as a whole a better economic entity, so to speak. That assumes it's done correctly, which may not occur.

Sorry if this isn't making sense, I'm rushing through my lunch break as I get ready to GBTW.

Wrong. It is too late to avoid the economic apocalypse...

FTA: "...real salvation must come through individual actions to... repay debts and boost competitiveness."

...because governments will not take these steps. That would require DRASTIC cuts, not those fraction-of-a-percent cuts that they propose. It would require slashing costly regulations, and, no matter how pointless or worthless or expensive or economically destructive a regulation is, it never gets repealed.

Unless I was in Switzerland, Sweden or Finland, I'd hate to be in Europe when the zombies rise.

Israel, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Yemen wouldn't be bad either, I have good Semitic bone structure and am handy with a rifle, and in a pinch like a zombie uprising I could go Muslim, I could fit in. UAE will be a zombie nightmare though.

To many people in Iran, Iraq, Syria though. Tel Aviv might get messy too.

SinPiEqualsZero: TrainingWheelsNeeded: so, you're saying we should move closer to one world government and banking system?

That appeared nowhere in my post. I commented on where Europe seemed to be heading, if not in name then certainly in effect. But it may not do anything and we may experience another collapse. We'll see.

asdfbeau: but even if they do this; even if they decide to share the debt amongs all the eurozone countries (with the bonds that Germany's already repeatedly said it won't accept), what do we have? a USE with the same debt, leveraged x times to make it seem like it's not really the same debt? AND all of europe facing ridiculous austerity measures for the next decade+?

I just don't see how integration, really solves the problem; it seems more like it's just shuffling the debt around...then once we find out we've simply shuffled it around, we're right back here.

If they decide to go through with fiscal integration, whether in phases or all at once, they will basically make the entire Eurozone responsible for the debt. That could allow the entire Eurozone to adopt uniform pro-growth policies (much like how our states can build upon but cannot weaken labor laws) and make the zone as a whole a better economic entity, so to speak. That assumes it's done correctly, which may not occur.

Sorry if this isn't making sense, I'm rushing through my lunch break as I get ready to GBTW.

I could see it happening, but sudden all the people will suddenly care about who their MEP is. And along that line, they would either need to end the currency exemptions. UK and Sweden can either join in or they don't get a seat at the government table.

There was NOTHING about zombies in that article.

/leaving disappointed

Make sure plenty of this is in your bugout bag. You'll need this along with an M1A.

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That would be the Bay Area Zombie Defense League.