Because People in power are Stupid: They should just start chanting: "Under God, Under God, Under God"

Unless, like me, they would recite the original Pledge.

The idea came from interim athletic director Paul Pendergast, who was looking for a unique way to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks during a UConn football game, and got the idea after attending a chamber of commerce breakfast, where the pledge was recited.

Why? Seriously, why the fark do you need to commemorate the 10th anniversary of 9/11 at a college football game?

"It made me think, 'Why aren't we doing this routinely?' " he said.

Because it's stupid.

"It makes us realize that there's a lot more going on out there than what we're doing on the court," she said. "There's still people out there fighting for our country.

Yea, we know that. Saying the goddamn Pledge every 10 minutes isn't going to change anything. Should the Pledge be said before every TV show, every concert, every play, every movie? It would be nice to get away from the troubles of the world for just a couple of hours.

And definitely saying the Pledge of Allegiance gets us a little more ready for the national anthem."

So the Pledge is the opening act for the Anthem. The warm up comedian. The appetizer to the feast. That is moronic.

Car_Ramrod:

Should the Pledge be said before every TV show, every concert, every play, every movie? .


that would not be appropriate since most entertainment produced today is performed by English artists.

Obligatory post for Pledge threads:
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... when they remarked that Major Major was somewhat odd, Captain Black announced that he was a Communist.

"They're taking over everything," he declared rebelliously. "Well, you fellows can stand around and let them if you want to, but I'm not going to. I'm going to do something about it. From now on I'm going to make every son of a biatch who comes to my intelligence tent sign a loyalty oath. And I'm not going to let that bastard Major Major sign one even if he wants to."

Almost overnight the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was in full flower, and Captain Black was enraptured to discover himself spearheading it. He had really hit on something. All the enlisted men and officers on combat duty had to sign a loyalty oath to get their map cases from the intelligence tent, a second loyalty oath to receive their flak suits and parachutes from the parachute tent, a third loyalty oath for Lieutenant Balkington, the motor vehicle officer, to be allowed to ride from the squadron to the airfield in one of the trucks. Every time they turned around there was another loyalty oath to be signed. They signed a loyalty oath to get their pay from the finance officer, to obtain their PX supplies, to have their hair cut by the Italian barbers. To Captain Black, every officer who supported his Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a competitor, and he planned and plotted twenty-four hours a day to keep one step ahead. He would stand second to none in his devotion to country. When other officers had followed his urging and introduced loyalty oaths of their own, he went them one better by making every son of a biatch who came to his intelligence tent sign two loyalty oaths, then three, then four; then he introduced the pledge of allegiance, and after that "The Star-Spangled Banner," one chorus, two choruses, three choruses, four choruses. Each time Captain Black forged ahead of his competitors, he swung upon them scornfully for their failure to follow his example. Each time they followed his example, he retreated with concern and racked his brain for some new stratagem that would enable him to turn upon them scornfully again.

Without realizing how it had come about, the combat men in the squadron discovered themselves dominated by the administrators appointed to serve them. They were bullied, insulted, harassed and shoved about all day long by one after the other. When they voiced objection, Captain Black replied that people who were loyal would not mind signing all the loyalty oaths they had to. To anyone who questioned the effectiveness of the loyalty oaths, he replied that people who really did owe allegiance to their country would be proud to pledge it as often as he forced them to. And to anyone who questioned the morality, he replied that "The Star-Spangled Banner" was the greatest piece of music ever composed. The more loyalty oaths a person signed, the more loyal he was; to Captain Black it was as simple as that, and he had Corporal Kolodny sign hundreds with his name each day so that he could always prove he was more loyal than anyone else.

"The important thing is to keep them pledging," he explained to his cohorts. "It doesn't matter whether they mean it or not. That's why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what 'pledge' and 'allegiance' means."

the pledge has always been dumb

Can't they just not say "Under God"?

Seems to me it would solve the problem.

Maybe Pendergast thinks if they throw in the pledge in addition to the anthem the fans will be so hopped up on patriotic spirit that they won't notice Jim Calhoun dropping f-bombs throughout every game?

But, but....Ammurica was founded as a christian nation!

A bunch of elitist land owners who marginalized everyone of the same color they could, disenfranchised everyone of the opposite gender, and enslaved or massacred everyone of a different color, that all happened to go church, hardly makes the nation founded in christian values.

Making school children stand up and pledge their allegiance to the country every morning creeps me out. Our government teacher in highschool would give out detentions if you didnt say the pledge loud enough for his liking.

And God Bless America during the 7th inning stretch bothers me to no end. Its a god damn baseball game, not a rally to buy war bonds!

I am Canadian. I never quite understood the whole Pledge of Allegiance / Worship the Flag thing. I concede that on the whole the United States has been a pretty goddamn good thing for the world at large. But the morning pledge of allegiance in schools has always seemed just a little bit creepy.

Consider the usual image of young children in class doing the pledge. If you were to replace the American flag with the North Korean flag for example, the whole thing would seem like an effort to indoctrinate children into blind obedience to the authority of the state. From an outsider perspective, it also seems both hilarious and disconcerting that the stereotypical republican is the first to speak up when they thing that the government is becoming totalitarian, but would also be the first to insist that the pledge should stay in place.

Strangeness aside, the US is a pretty awesome country, so keep being awesome.

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As a Christian, and an American, I have issues with the pledge and having the American flag in the sanctuary. If I fought the later, I'd probably lose my job (Youth pastor).

Religion and State are not choc and peanut butter.

I tried this once before but I think I was too late to the thread. I'd really like Farkers' opinion on this analogy:

I don't repeat my wedding vows every day, so by using their logic I must not be totally committed to my marriage.

/don't quite have the balls to bring this up in polite company, but might consider it with select friends.

Pledging to a flag is idolatrous. Read your Bible.

are these the same college acedemia brains that asked the UW Madison students not to swear at each other during football games at Camp Randall?
they offered 2 full accommodations to the next bowl game to students if the refrained from chanting "eat $#!T" and ƒΩç† U" during the Indiana game in October. the students laughed and chanted that 3 times.

i can see the folks at the volleyball games recite the pledge here, but that is about as liberal and patriotic a crowd can get.

Jim from Saint Paul: Can't they just not say "Under God"?

Seems to me it would solve the problem.

Yeah, basically just do the pre 1954 version

I see it's been covered already...

KJUW89: I

I don't repeat my wedding vows every day, so by using their logic I must not be totally committed to my marriage.


do you have plans this weekend?
;)

Uconn games = single biggest gathering of doochebags on planet Earth.

itsnattatumah: Uconn games = single biggest gathering of doochebags on planet Earth.

are you sure about that?

I guess it will be an issue when fans are FORCED to recite the Pledge before a game.

They have always recited the Pledge of Allegiance before every football game that I have ever attended in Bay and Gulf counties in Florida. They do the the national anthem first, then the pledge. We have an old Korean war vet who donated various parts of his body to the country in that war who does a very stirring rendition of it. And all the kids still put their hands over their hearts and recite it along with him.

/Connecticut? Aren't they the jackasses who gave us the Bush family?
It figures they'd have problems with doing something that's normal to most Americans.

No matter how much atheists hate to admit it, the country was founded upon religious roots, but tolerant religious roots thanks to benjamin franklin and the quakers, if they dont like it then they are free to practice their beliefs in any of the middle east nations where such a stance will likely get them whipped at the least or loss of possessions/status.

They are free to believe what they want thanks to the tolerance set up by the religious people who set up our nation.

varmitydog: They have always recited the Pledge of Allegiance before every football game that I have ever attended in Bay and Gulf counties in Florida. They do the the national anthem first, then the pledge. We have an old Korean war vet who donated various parts of his body to the country in that war who does a very stirring rendition of it. And all the kids still put their hands over their hearts and recite it along with him.

/Connecticut? Aren't they the jackasses who gave us the Bush family?
It figures they'd have problems with doing something that's normal to most Americans.

Nothing that happens in Florida is normal to most Americans. Hence the Florida tag.

White people problems.

There's still people out there fighting for our country.

Some people put on a uniform and go overseas to fight for our country.

Others force other people to recite a few words everywhere they go.

KJUW89: I tried this once before but I think I was too late to the thread. I'd really like Farkers' opinion on this analogy:

I don't repeat my wedding vows every day, so by using their logic I must not be totally committed to my marriage.

/don't quite have the balls to bring this up in polite company, but might consider it with select friends.

I think that it's only necessary before sex. Well, guess I'm off the hook.

Have a problem with the Under God part? Then just simply don't say it. Someone giving you a hard time for skipping the Under God part? Point out that them giving you a hard time for skipping Under God makes about as much sense as you giving then a hard time for not skipping Under God.

/does not skip Under God but recognizes the individual right to do so