Note that he doesn't say he's going to be the president. Maybe ol' Newt knows a thing or two after all...

Assuming you're correct, you're also going to get raped in the general.

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He's our candidate? It's a matter of fact.

It's possible, his hypocrisy and morally reprehensible behavior has been known for long enough for it to not be that interesting.

At this point, this race has been such an unpredictable clusterfark, that Tupac could come out of hiding and run for the GOP nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the front-runner in a week or two.

Headso: It's possible, his hypocrisy and morally reprehensible behavior has been known for long enough for it to not be that interesting.

To quote my step-dad, who is Iowa caucus fodder living in Illinois: "We've been through that, what is he saying now?"

You are on to something.

uh_clem: Note that he doesn't say he's going to be the president. Maybe ol' Newt knows a thing or two after all...

If Newt is the nominee and the economy picks up next year, Obama will be a shoe-in for sure.

/He still has to get through Romney.

Hey Fark crybaby libs... News Flash - your guy is a train wreck. Newt will destroy him in any debate and will win in a general election.

Kentucky Fried Panda: Hey Fark crybaby libs... News Flash - your guy is a train wreck. Newt will destroy him in any debate and will win in a general election.

Yes, so please don't nominate him! Please! Anybody but him! Oh, and we would be especially happy if you somehow nominated Huntsman.

Kentucky Fried Panda: Hey Fark crybaby libs... News Flash - your guy is a train wreck. Newt will destroy him in any debate and will win in a general election.

He's never going to get to debate Obama.

Kentucky Fried Panda: Newt will destroy him in any debate

How exactly? By whining like a little biatch after getting a question he doesn't like, like he's been doing so far?

Kentucky Fried Panda: Hey Fark crybaby libs... News Flash - your guy is a train wreck. Newt will destroy him in any debate and will win in a general election.

1/10. News HTML 5, please.

Newt's made a huge leap on Intrade, and Romney's actually below 50% now. Obama might as well crack open the champagne now.

improvius: Kentucky Fried Panda: Hey Fark crybaby libs... News Flash - your guy is a train wreck. Newt will destroy him in any debate and will win in a general election.

Yes, so please don't nominate him! Please! Anybody but him! Oh, and we would be especially happy if you somehow nominated Huntsman.

I hate to admit it but I live in constant fear of Newt running against Obama. His likeable charisma and sound pro-family and children message resonates with everyone. The only thing worse for us liberals would be a Cain nomination. Our conflicting white guilt would cause us to burst into flame and then there wouldn't be any liberals to even vote anymore.

Zerochance: At this point, this race has been such an unpredictable clusterfark, that Tupac could come out of hiding and run for the GOP nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the front-runner in a week or two.

The opposite has been true. The nominee is going to be and has been going to be Mitt Romney. But because he's a phoney and magic underwear, the base has been trying to get excited and try out other people. The only one of those who had a chance was Perry and he wound up being terrible. We know the rest are terrible. The only wild card is Paul, who I think its fair to say is even less palatable to the base. So Newt will have his week, maybe two, and then crash and burn like the rest of them.

In all seriousness, Newt's recent polling numbers have spiked. He's leading in Iowa and South Carolina, and has increased his numbers in New Hampshire while Romney has remained steady. In the most recent Florida poll, Newt has jumped almost 24 points.

Romney is in serious trouble.

Zerochance: Kentucky Fried Panda: Newt will destroy him in any debate

How exactly? By whining like a little biatch after getting a question he doesn't like, like he's been doing so far?

Not playing into bullshiat "gotcha" questions is not whining like a little biatch. The media is more interested in a sensationalized story than addressing real issues. If you honestly think Obama is good for this nation then there is very little I or anyone can do to convince you otherwise. However, you will eventually figure it out on your own. Maybe.

odinsposse: I hate to admit it but I live in constant fear of Newt running against Obama. His likeable charisma and sound pro-family and children message resonates with everyone. The only thing worse for us liberals would be a Cain nomination. Our conflicting white guilt would cause us to burst into flame and then there wouldn't be any liberals to even vote anymore.

6/10 for innovation, lost your believability with the Cain BS. But don't worry, Jesus likes trolls.

"It's easier for a troll to fit through the eye of a camel than for a conservative to get over his butt hurt." - Jesus, 1776 Founding of America

bartink: Zerochance: At this point, this race has been such an unpredictable clusterfark, that Tupac could come out of hiding and run for the GOP nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the front-runner in a week or two.

The opposite has been true. The nominee is going to be and has been going to be Mitt Romney. But because he's a phoney and magic underwear, the base has been trying to get excited and try out other people. The only one of those who had a chance was Perry and he wound up being terrible. We know the rest are terrible. The only wild card is Paul, who I think its fair to say is even less palatable to the base. So Newt will have his week, maybe two, and then crash and burn like the rest of them.

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I beg to differ. I think Newt's surge might be a little more substantial, and if Cain drops out, the Not-Romney vote will be less splintered, hurting Romney. Newt is actually gaining traction in New Hampshire, where I believe is where Romney is banking his nomination, and it may turn out to be an actual race after all.

I could be wrong though.

odinsposse: I hate to admit it but I live in constant fear of Newt running against Obama. His likeable charisma and sound pro-family and children message resonates with everyone. The only thing worse for us liberals would be a Cain nomination. Our conflicting white guilt would cause us to burst into flame and then there wouldn't be any liberals to even vote anymore.

Have you seen Newt debate? It comes off as the smartest and dumbest guy in the room at the same time. Plus the guy has so much baggage that he doesn't have a chance at winning either the nomination or the Presidency.

/and Cain? the guy who can't say a single sentence without 9-9-9 in it? also never had a chance

Zerochance: bartink: Zerochance: At this point, this race has been such an unpredictable clusterfark, that Tupac could come out of hiding and run for the GOP nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the front-runner in a week or two.

The opposite has been true. The nominee is going to be and has been going to be Mitt Romney. But because he's a phoney and magic underwear, the base has been trying to get excited and try out other people. The only one of those who had a chance was Perry and he wound up being terrible. We know the rest are terrible. The only wild card is Paul, who I think its fair to say is even less palatable to the base. So Newt will have his week, maybe two, and then crash and burn like the rest of them.

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I beg to differ. I think Newt's surge might be a little more substantial, and if Cain drops out, the Not-Romney vote will be less splintered, hurting Romney. Newt is actually gaining traction in New Hampshire, where I believe is where Romney is banking his nomination, and it may turn out to be an actual race after all.

I could be wrong though.

Disagree. I think its important to see where Newt's support, or anyone who hopes to be the anyone but Romney candidate, is actually coming from. Its gonna be evangelicals. If you are wanting a wall street/fiscal candidate, Romney's your guy. If he isn't your guy, you are likely religious. When the religious are reminded that this guy is thrice divorced liar and then he simply runs his mouth and pisses off everyone that might like him, he's toast. I give a him a week or two, three at the outside. I think his unraveling has already begun.

I might be wrong though. I have no crystal ball.

bravian: odinsposse: I hate to admit it but I live in constant fear of Newt running against Obama. His likeable charisma and sound pro-family and children message resonates with everyone. The only thing worse for us liberals would be a Cain nomination. Our conflicting white guilt would cause us to burst into flame and then there wouldn't be any liberals to even vote anymore.

Have you seen Newt debate? It comes off as the smartest and dumbest guy in the room at the same time. Plus the guy has so much baggage that he doesn't have a chance at winning either the nomination or the Presidency.

/and Cain? the guy who can't say a single sentence without 9-9-9 in it? also never had a chance

*woosh*

Kentucky Fried Panda: Mike_LowELL does the same thing you do already, and funnier.

Zerochance: bartink: Zerochance: At this point, this race has been such an unpredictable clusterfark, that Tupac could come out of hiding and run for the GOP nomination and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the front-runner in a week or two.

The opposite has been true. The nominee is going to be and has been going to be Mitt Romney. But because he's a phoney and magic underwear, the base has been trying to get excited and try out other people. The only one of those who had a chance was Perry and he wound up being terrible. We know the rest are terrible. The only wild card is Paul, who I think its fair to say is even less palatable to the base. So Newt will have his week, maybe two, and then crash and burn like the rest of them.

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I beg to differ. I think Newt's surge might be a little more substantial, and if Cain drops out, the Not-Romney vote will be less splintered, hurting Romney. Newt is actually gaining traction in New Hampshire, where I believe is where Romney is banking his nomination, and it may turn out to be an actual race after all.

I could be wrong though.

I think at this point its too early to tell. Newts campaign ended disastrously fast before and only recently came back. With the entire month of December and three seperate debates a whole lot could happen. Each candidate has had their month in the sun. As much as I would love Newt to get the nomination I still think Romney will be the one to face Obama in the general. Remember, you only need one bad debate, one over enthusiastic yell, or one scandal to sink you. Newt has been around a very long time. His past record alone should indicate hes not fit to polish a sitting president's shoes but....we shall see what comes.

Kentucky Fried Panda: Zerochance: Kentucky Fried Panda: Newt will destroy him in any debate

How exactly? By whining like a little biatch after getting a question he doesn't like, like he's been doing so far?

Not playing into bullshiat "gotcha" questions is not whining like a little biatch. The media is more interested in a sensationalized story than addressing real issues. If you honestly think Obama is good for this nation then there is very little I or anyone can do to convince you otherwise. However, you will eventually figure it out on your own. Maybe.

Who the hell is this guy?

bravian: odinsposse: I hate to admit it but I live in constant fear of Newt running against Obama. His likeable charisma and sound pro-family and children message resonates with everyone. The only thing worse for us liberals would be a Cain nomination. Our conflicting white guilt would cause us to burst into flame and then there wouldn't be any liberals to even vote anymore.

Have you seen Newt debate? It comes off as the smartest and dumbest guy in the room at the same time. Plus the guy has so much baggage that he doesn't have a chance at winning either the nomination or the Presidency.

/and Cain? the guy who can't say a single sentence without 9-9-9 in it? also never had a chance

I very much agree with you. You know why "generic Republican" wins polls? Because he/she/it can be anything to anyone. Romney's biggest strength, and ironically his weakness, is basically "generic republican." He has more positions than the kama sutra and switches between them like slipping on a different pair of shoes. He also comes off with zero personality.

Newt on the other hand, (I am stealing this from some other farker, forgive me) comes off as what a dumb person thinks a smart person should sound like. He also has a MASSIVE persecution complex coupled with a good helping of arrogance evidenced by every time he whines to the moderator (which is practically every debate). He has immense baggage and a very distinctive personality.

Romney might be the boring tree with leaves that change color, but hes NOT polarizing. You either love or hate the Newt, the "Fiery Republican Character," which is what I think will ultimately doom him.

CanisNoir: When it comes time for the general election, if people want to dredge up the past, the choice will be between a thrice divorced past speaker of the house who ushered in a Republican Majority for the first time in 70 years AND WAS SO BAD AT LEADING THE GOP DURING THE '98 MIDTERM ELECTIONS THAT HIS OWN PARTY FORCED HIM TO RESIGN, vs. a Drug Dealer who got his political chops at the feet of a domestic terrorist - hmmm, tough choice that.

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Added a little something to that.

CanisNoir: When it comes time for the general election, if people want to dredge up the past, the choice will be between a thrice divorced past speaker of the house who ushered in a Republican Majority for the first time in 70 years, vs. a Drug Dealer who got his political chops at the feet of a domestic terrorist - hmmm, tough choice that.

I lol'd. Would lol again.

make me some tea: "Newt has done some things that have embarrassed House Republicans and embarrassed the House," said Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.). "If [the voters] see more of that, they will question our judgment."

Yes, but you see that's pre-9/11 thinking...or pre 1/20/08 thinking...or something. Basically they realized their base is retarded/willfully ignorant so it doesn't matter anymore is what I'm saying.

Gawker's headline was better:

Philandering Silverware Queen Declares Himself GOP Nominee

cameroncrazy1984: The conservative outrage in November next year will be AWESOME.

I know, I know, I'm excited too, but what do you thinks gonna happen in the House and the Senate? That's where I'm more worried.

GaryPDX: I'm not a fan of Newt but he was the Speaker of the House, in a Republican Controlled Congress, during the Clinton boom years. He does have the most direct experience AND WAS SO BAD AT LEADING THE GOP DURING THE '98 MIDTERM ELECTIONS THAT HIS OWN PARTY FORCED HIM TO RESIGN and I really couldn't care less he was married 3 times.

From wiki:

In the summer of 1997 several House Republicans, who saw Gingrich's public image as a liability, attempted to replace him as Speaker. The attempted "coup" began July 9 with a meeting of Republican conference chairman John Boehner of Ohio and Republican leadership chairman Bill Paxon of New York. According to their plan, House Majority Leader Dick Armey, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay, Boehner and Paxon were to present Gingrich with an ultimatum: resign, or be voted out. However, Armey balked at the proposal to make Paxon the new Speaker, and told his chief of staff to warn Gingrich about the attempted coup.[73]

On July 11, Gingrich met with senior Republican leadership to assess the situation. He explained that under no circumstance would he step down. If he was voted out, there would be a new election for Speaker, which would allow for the possibility that Democrats-along with dissenting Republicans-would vote in Dick Gephardt as Speaker. On July 16, Paxon offered to resign his post, feeling that he had not handled the situation correctly, as the only member of the leadership who had been appointed to his position-by Gingrich-instead of elected.[74]

Republicans lost five seats in the House in the 1998 elections-the worst midterm performance in 64 years for a party that didn't hold the presidency. Polls showed that Gingrich and the Republican Party's attempt to remove President Clinton from office was deeply unpopular among voters.[75] Gingrich suffered much of the blame for the election loss. Facing a rebellion in the Republican caucus, he announced on November 5, 1998 that he would not only stand down as Speaker, but would leave the House as well. Gingrich made this announcement only a day after being elected to an 11th term from his district. Commenting on his departure, Gingrich said, "I'm willing to lead but I'm not willing to preside over people who are cannibals. My only fear would be that if I tried to stay, it would just overshadow whoever my successor is."

/You can't go with "He was a great leader in '94!" and just gloss over the fact that his own party thought that he was a horrible leader in '97 and '98. The lulz will be epic if a reporter asks Boehner if he endorses Newt, since Boehner was among the posse that ran Newt out of Washington.

CanisNoir:
Joe Mecham says Obama doesn't like people while Tina Brown says he doesn't like his job. (new window)


Who the hell are those people?