That's discrimination against drunk asshats.

He went to the bar with his mom? To be fair, many people have probably gone to the bar with his mom, but still...

News Flash: Gays can be douche bags too.

FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

I like how he threw the ashtray through the 1'x1' window while trying to escape his attackers and reenter the bar. So many things wrong there.

I had a boss who was a total asshole. He was fired when about 15 of us had a meeting with his boss and said "him or us". He then tried to file a claim that it was because he was gay. Fortunately, HR saw through his bullshiat.

When one guy has a problem with you, it might be him. When the whole bar tells you to GTFO, you're probably the asshole.

I guess gay's need a Gay Card to pull every time someone does something they don't agree.

Why not, blacks have a race card, although they have jesse jackson in their corner, who do gays have, Sulu?

A different pulverized fruit pic.

Is being a drunk asshat covered by those hate crime laws?

bravian: FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

Um... Yes. Yes, it is.
How would you honestly expect NOT to get the shiat kicked out of you or at least clocked once or twice for doing that?
Not to mention whatever else your behavior might include during the evening if you're already drunk & stupid enough to pull this kind of crap ? ?

Sometimes, it just isn't about what you do with your asshole, it's about your being an asshole.

stewbert:

When one guy has a problem with you, it might be him. When the whole bar tells you to GTFO, you're probably the asshole.

My ex suffers from the same thing. "Nobody understands me". No, everybody understands you, you're a narcissistic see-you-next-Tuesday, who always has to get her way. There's a reason you've been alone for 10+ years.

The only victim card a white male could ever play.

FTA: Long said after a long night of drinking, he offended a man, which led to an altercation. He did not want to go into detail about how he offended the man, but said he told the man he is gay.

I believe that says all we need to know about the guy. He doesn't want to talk about how he pissed the guy off, but he makes sure everyone knows he's gay.

stlbluez: Um... Yes. Yes, it is.
How would you honestly expect NOT to get the shiat kicked out of you or at least clocked once or twice for doing that?
Not to mention whatever else your behavior might include during the evening if you're already drunk & stupid enough to pull this kind of crap ? ?

Wait wut? So your response is to just to beat the shiat out of someone? Really? You must be great fun at parties. The appropriate response was to have both those guys removed from the bar.

/like I said - tons of FAIL on both sides

bravian: FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

Darling said there weren't four men attacking Long outside the bar. She said he was involved in multiple altercations as people were leaving the bar because he was trying to pick a fight "with everyone." His family was shoved around trying to break them up, she said. Once everyone was gone, she said, he remained outside the bar trying to get back in and harassing bartenders.

I'm only inclined to believe her version of events because he got thrown out of the bar in the first place for trying to pick a fight "with everyone". I've known a lot of mean drunks in my lifetime and they don't tend to calm down as time goes on - they get worse.

bravian: stlbluez: Um... Yes. Yes, it is.
How would you honestly expect NOT to get the shiat kicked out of you or at least clocked once or twice for doing that?
Not to mention whatever else your behavior might include during the evening if you're already drunk & stupid enough to pull this kind of crap ? ?

Wait wut? So your response is to just to beat the shiat out of someone? Really? You must be great fun at parties. The appropriate response was to have both those guys removed from the bar.

/like I said - tons of FAIL on both sides

NO, fail was on the drunk idiot acting like he could do wtf he wanted because being gay gives him a free pass.

serial_crusher: bravian: FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

You're missing the point. They're not saying it wasn't a crime. They're sating it wasn't a hate crime. Hate crimes carry stiffer sentences than regular crimes.

Exactly. Sir Asshat thought he could spin this in his favor, I'm assuming, with a little hate crime magic.
And don't get me wrong, I'm all for hate crime laws when they're applied properly. A group of guys leap from the shadows and attack a gay guy walking down the street yelling gay slurs while they assault him, all in an effort to let other queers know they're not welcome in that neighborhood?....yeah, that's a hate crime. And it's more evil than just a regular scuffle 2 drunks get into at a bar over a misunderstanding and/or ass-hattery.

But he wouldn't have been a drunken arsehat if he wasn't gay...

kid_icarus: serial_crusher: bravian: FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

You're missing the point. They're not saying it wasn't a crime. They're sating it wasn't a hate crime. Hate crimes carry stiffer sentences than regular crimes.

Exactly. Sir Asshat thought he could spin this in his favor, I'm assuming, with a little hate crime magic.
And don't get me wrong, I'm all for hate crime laws when they're applied properly. A group of guys leap from the shadows and attack a gay guy walking down the street yelling gay slurs while they assault him, all in an effort to let other queers know they're not welcome in that neighborhood?....yeah, that's a hate crime. And it's more evil than just a regular scuffle 2 drunks get into at a bar over a misunderstanding and/or ass-hattery.

But how is that worse than the same group of guys beating someone because they dont like the way they dress or wear their hair? Hate crime laws are gay

bravian: stlbluez: Um... Yes. Yes, it is.
How would you honestly expect NOT to get the shiat kicked out of you or at least clocked once or twice for doing that?
Not to mention whatever else your behavior might include during the evening if you're already drunk & stupid enough to pull this kind of crap ? ?

Wait wut? So your response is to just to beat the shiat out of someone? Really? You must be great fun at parties. The appropriate response was to have both those guys removed from the bar.

/like I said - tons of FAIL on both sides

Not to be an ITG but if you put your hands on somone you don't know you deserve an ass whooping. If he touched my GF's butt and I didn't know who he was he would have got clocked, if not by the future Mrs. Wrech then by me. And if I don't know you and you put hands on me I will go lights out. A polite tap on the shoulder to squeeze by is one thing, poke me with your finger or touch me you get one "don't touch me" warning then I start breaking fingers.

Looks like he done got told once already.

FTFA
Most of his injuries came from falling inside the bar after he did get back inside, she said. That's when bartenders walked him to his car and then held the door shut on him again, she said.


So, he got kicked out, some stuff happened in the parkinglot, He tried to get back into the bar....

I bet they let him back in. I would have. Would have been same result too.

"At this point there was not a soul in the bar or outside," she said, explaining that everyone had already left the bar".

heh, heh, heh.

bravian: stlbluez: Um... Yes. Yes, it is.
How would you honestly expect NOT to get the shiat kicked out of you or at least clocked once or twice for doing that?
Not to mention whatever else your behavior might include during the evening if you're already drunk & stupid enough to pull this kind of crap ? ?

Wait wut? So your response is to just to beat the shiat out of someone? Really? You must be great fun at parties. The appropriate response was to have both those guys removed from the bar.

/like I said - tons of FAIL on both sides

yes.
I'm not an internet tough guy... but YES. If you're already being a douche at a bar.. and you just slap my girlfriend (or wife actually.. ) on the ass and I don't even know you...
I am VERY likely just going to pop you right in the face with zero hesitation. Quite possibly more than once unless it's obvious the first one was sufficient to send your pixie-ass to dream-land :)

And yes.. I recognize.. having been the doorman at a bar for a year or so.. I would be asked to leave.
fine.

Joe Blowme: kid_icarus: serial_crusher: bravian: FTFA He slapped a woman's behind and her boyfriend got angry and punched him, she said.

There is so much FAIL on both sides in this article. You will never really know the real story here but the 'victim' was acting like a complete idiot but the response isn't to punch or later beat up the guy.

You're missing the point. They're not saying it wasn't a crime. They're sating it wasn't a hate crime. Hate crimes carry stiffer sentences than regular crimes.

Exactly. Sir Asshat thought he could spin this in his favor, I'm assuming, with a little hate crime magic.
And don't get me wrong, I'm all for hate crime laws when they're applied properly. A group of guys leap from the shadows and attack a gay guy walking down the street yelling gay slurs while they assault him, all in an effort to let other queers know they're not welcome in that neighborhood?....yeah, that's a hate crime. And it's more evil than just a regular scuffle 2 drunks get into at a bar over a misunderstanding and/or ass-hattery.

But how is that worse than the same group of guys beating someone because they dont like the way they dress or wear their hair? Hate crime laws are gay

In theory, it's because the group of guys intend to use the unprovoked beating to send a message to an entire population of people. Said messages intent is to intimidate and terrorize, and hate crime advocates claim such a crime targets more than just the actual victim. Some claim that it's more heinous than simple assault because it undermines civil society itself by promoting an atmosphere of fear and instability.

It's an active debate, though, about whether the above is valid and exactly how it applies in individual situations. It's easy to see the difference in extreme situations ie, a KKK group burning a cross on a black family's lawn as opposed to teenagers TP'ing their teacher's front yard. In real life, though, it can be a little more vague.

What gay man in his right mind slaps a girl (whom he doesn't know) on the ass?

Really?

There are shenanigans afoot.

natas6.0: You slap my lass anywhere, yer gonna get into a scrap.
If he's a little guy, she'll flatten him
If not, well...that's my territory.

stlbluez yer hopefully a troll and not some mewling apologist.

Don't get loaded and be an ass.
Don't lay your hands on a gal as if she was your property

you clearly can't read or you lost track of the conversation.

serial_crusher: You're missing the point. They're not saying it wasn't a crime. They're sating it wasn't a hate thought crime. Hate Thought crimes carry stiffer sentences than regular crimes.

FTFY. I don't care *WHY* you punched somebody. The crime is the action. Stiffer penalties for "hate crimes" are stupid: I don't care if you killed that person for their money, or because they belong to whatever subgroup. The crime is the same, murder. The reason behind it is merely motive, and while in some cases that might call for a lesser penalty (a crime of passion, for instance), I can see no legitimate purpose served by making penalties stiffer because you allegedly hate some subgroup. In essence, it's legitimizing the idea that the thought itself is a crime.

kid_icarus: ...Hate crime laws...

In real life, though, it can be a little more vague.

Yep. Nothing like having vaguely enforcable laws to promote the rule of law. They would never be misused or taken out of context or abused in anyway.

Seriously, where do you people come from? Farkin lala land?

kid_icarus: I'm all for hate crime laws when they're applied properly.

I'm not.

A group of guys leap from the shadows and attack a gay guy walking down the street yelling gay slurs while they assault him, all in an effort to let other queers know they're not welcome in that neighborhood?....yeah, that's a hate crime. And it's more evil than just a regular scuffle 2 drunks get into at a bar over a misunderstanding and/or ass-hattery.

I disagree. What if their motivation wasn't bias towards a group, but something else? Maybe robbery, maybe rape, maybe just because they are violent assholes. That doesn't make the crime of gratuitously beating someone any less serious, or any less evil.

Any bias present may speak to motive, but it doesn't inform us on the severity of the crime.

kid_icarus: It's an active debate, though, about whether the above is valid and exactly how it applies in individual situations. It's easy to see the difference in extreme situations ie, a KKK group burning a cross on a black family's lawn as opposed to teenagers TP'ing their teacher's front yard. In real life, though, it can be a little more vague.

The first situation is adequately covered by laws forbidding intimidation, vandalism, and trespassing. It's already illegal. Making it SOOPER-DOOPER illegal is just asinine: The idea that some sentence enhancement is going to matter to racist asshats is ludicrous. The reason cross-burnings and lynchings pretty much don't happen anymore isn't because we've passed hate crimes legislation, it's that law enforcement and the judicial system started prosecuting offenders under the existing laws, unlike the situation back when much of law enforcement actually participated in those crimes.

One could argue that affirmative action in LEO hiring has had more of an effect than thought-crime laws.

serial_crusher: Oh, I agree with that. I was just refuting the guy who seemed to think calling it not a hate crime means calling it justified.

Cool. Glad to see I'm not the only sane person.

Sounds like this idiot got the beatdown he deserved.

He's this guy, isn't he:

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Wait, he was gay? Does that mean he got over it? I sense some Bachmann intervention on this one Lou.

Up next:

police and bar owner sued for discrimination

Much like tequila shots, his story calls for grains of salt all around.Had a friend disappear from the parking lot of a gay bar in WV back in the early eighties. He was found several days later down by the river with a bullet in the back of his head. The police explained that it was probably "just a drug deal gone bad and let that be a lesson to ya".
Not that this guy wasn't an asshole, but a bar owner would never slant a story to protect their employees or their regulars. Groups of people never cover for each other.
Yes, the code of the hills demands that ass-grabbing and general douchebaggery be met with violence, but the ass-whooping is to be administered by one person in the offended party. If this douche started numerous fights, he should have been whooped numerous times.
Of course, WV may have changed since my day. Back then, no group would have stood idly by to watch a You-Tube style beatdown, even if it were bouncers stomping an obnoxious drunk. If it is true that four men attacked him at once, the entire bar decided that he deserved it, quite likely due to either a lisp or a Buckeye accent.

wellreadneck: If it is true that four men attacked him at once, the entire bar decided that he deserved it, quite likely due to either a lisp or a Buckeyebrown eye accent.

/Faaaaaaabulous!

Hack Patooey: wellreadneck: If it is true that four men attacked him at once, the entire bar decided that he deserved it, quite likely due to either a lisp or a Buckeyebrown eye accent.

/Faaaaaaabulous!

That reminds me of last summer's visit home. The entire family played a game in the yard, something like horshoes but with a board with holes and some grain filled bags. I couldn't stop laughing each time that, instead of "ringer", some grandchild screamed "cornhole".

Maybe this jerk off should learn how to fight and not be such a dick to others.

horseshoes


wellread is the joke.
The self-deprecating wit of the barely literate

kid_icarus: That's discrimination against drunk asshats.

WE'RE DRUNK! WE'RE ASSHATS! GET USED TO IT!

Sounds to me like he was out trolling for a lawsuit.

He sits at home, gets drunk, thinks "How can I get rich? Without working, of course, that's a lot of trouble and it takes up a lot of time. I've got it, I'll sue a bunch of people! Hmmm. Gotta sue them for something."

The next night, he goes to a bar, starts screaming "I'm gay!", grabbing womens butts, talking shiat to everyone there until they beat the crap out of him. He runs to the press "They beat me up because I'm gay" and starts shopping for a lawyer.

I could be wrong. But I think it went something like that.