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2011-12-02 12:28:00 AM
The boy was never charged. He scored a - 2 on a scale of 1 to 10 according to a risk assessment given by the jail staff, 10 being extremely dangerous.

Instead of exhibiting dangerous behavior, he soaks it up?
 
2011-12-02 01:07:51 AM
It also details a separate incident this school year when administrators became suspicious because the boy had $200 in his pocket. He claimed it was because he was going to go shopping after school, but administrators accused him of selling pot to another student. The boy asked to call his mother; instead, they forced the student to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched.

Farking hell, hang these assholes.
 
2011-12-02 01:15:19 AM
Y'know, these stories surprise me less and less as the years go by. This kind of shiat has gotten progressively worse - regardless of what differing opinions might think is the cause of it, we can all agree that judgment and discretion has disappeared and that these kinds of outrageous incidents occur on almost a weekly basis somewhere in the country - whether it's this kid getting arrested for burping or some kid gets fined $1000 for running a lemonade stand or whatever.

It's almost enough for me to WANT to see the entire system completely, utterly, and totally implode under its own weight so that we can build a new system up from scratch without the perversions of our current one.
 
2011-12-02 01:15:35 AM
Mike_LowELL: It also details a separate incident this school year when administrators became suspicious because the boy had $200 in his pocket. He claimed it was because he was going to go shopping after school, but administrators accused him of selling pot to another student. The boy asked to call his mother; instead, they forced the student to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched.

Farking hell, hang these assholes.


All aboard the S.S. Lawsuit.
 
2011-12-02 01:17:11 AM
...don't you mean Flatulence Assault Response Team, subby?
 
2011-12-02 01:22:00 AM
FirstNationalBastard: ...don't you mean Flatulence Assault Response Team, subby?

Damn you, now I have poster's remorse.
 
2011-12-02 01:24:44 AM
There was a time when people used common sense. Now, everyone is too damned scared shiatless to even do anything remotely sane.
 
2011-12-02 01:28:35 AM
Javacrucian: FirstNationalBastard: ...don't you mean Flatulence Assault Response Team, subby?

Damn you, now I have poster's remorse.


And it was so close, too. 3 of the 4 letters for the acronym were right there!

But, hey, a green's a green. It don't have to be pretty.
 
2011-12-02 01:35:03 AM
To be fair, it's possible that they just didn't have any pepper spray on hand.
 
2011-12-02 02:02:57 AM
They came for the burpers and I said nothing...
 
2011-12-02 02:41:13 AM
Another government agency that can't handle a little vocal display.
 
2011-12-02 02:47:32 AM
See, I doubt this kid even had a record of being a little shiat. People bring this up, say they must have been justified in looking for a reason to get rid of him, but if that were the case then these people would have thought more rationally and logically about using loopholes to manoeuvre him out. As it is, this bears the hallmark of the irrationality inherent to unquestionable internal departmental procedure.
 
2011-12-02 02:47:55 AM
can we remove the monkey principles yet? and the asshole teacher?
 
2011-12-02 02:49:06 AM
Hydra: Y'know, these stories surprise me less and less as the years go by. This kind of shiat has gotten progressively worse - regardless of what differing opinions might think is the cause of it, we can all agree that judgment and discretion has disappeared and that these kinds of outrageous incidents occur on almost a weekly basis somewhere in the country - whether it's this kid getting arrested for burping or some kid gets fined $1000 for running a lemonade stand or whatever.

It's almost enough for me to WANT to see the entire system completely, utterly, and totally implode under its own weight so that we can build a new system up from scratch without the perversions of our current one.


1.bp.blogspot.com

"When a forest grows too wild, a purging fire is inevitable and natural."
 
2011-12-02 02:49:40 AM
bighasbeen: Mike_LowELL: It also details a separate incident this school year when administrators became suspicious because the boy had $200 in his pocket. He claimed it was because he was going to go shopping after school, but administrators accused him of selling pot to another student. The boy asked to call his mother; instead, they forced the student to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched.

Farking hell, hang these assholes.

All aboard the S.S. Lawsuit.


Job openings coming up soon at that school.
This kid needs to find a new one.
 
2011-12-02 02:53:41 AM
MurphyMurphy: Hydra: Y'know, these stories surprise me less and less as the years go by. This kind of shiat has gotten progressively worse - regardless of what differing opinions might think is the cause of it, we can all agree that judgment and discretion has disappeared and that these kinds of outrageous incidents occur on almost a weekly basis somewhere in the country - whether it's this kid getting arrested for burping or some kid gets fined $1000 for running a lemonade stand or whatever.

It's almost enough for me to WANT to see the entire system completely, utterly, and totally implode under its own weight so that we can build a new system up from scratch without the perversions of our current one.



"When a forest grows too wild, a purging fire is inevitable and natural."


Fun quote, but it's not applicable when the forest is actively stopping itself from being fired. :(
 
2011-12-02 02:54:29 AM
...with picture of what a handcuffed shirtless teenager might look like!
 
2011-12-02 02:55:22 AM
See this is the problem with the system today...

In past times, the gym teacher would have just given him a smack to the side of the head & told him to pay attention...And nobody, kid included, would have thought anything more about it..

Now we call the cops!

And the whole strip in front of 5 adults? Was this a Catholic school?? (sorry - trollish!)

/I do not encourage beatings or such, but the whole idea of 'dicipline' has become a farce. I know one thing - When I was a kid - I was told if you get the strap at school, you're getting it TWICE as bad when you get home - And I kept that in my mind...
//Made me a smarter shiat-disturber!
 
2011-12-02 02:56:58 AM
Commonwealth of Kostemetsia: See, I doubt this kid even had a record of being a little shiat. People bring this up, say they must have been justified in looking for a reason to get rid of him, but if that were the case then these people would have thought more rationally and logically about using loopholes to manoeuvre him out. As it is, this bears the hallmark of the irrationality inherent to unquestionable internal departmental procedure.

If the kid really were a little shiat, all they would have had to do would be to wait for the next incident of assault, threatening assault, destroying school property or whatever and then call the cops. Or at the very least mention these things when questioned about the kid's past. If the best they can come up with here is that the student cut one in class and the only previous incident is the one with the $200, it sounds like a case of power tripping school administrators versus one probably-annoying thirteen year old boy (and what thirteen year old isn't annoying?) who, if I had to guess, does not exactly have great family support or backup since he was still attending this school after being forced to strip to his underwear in front of several adults (any bets that these winners will end up on any sex offender registries?)
 
2011-12-02 02:57:28 AM
So, Zero Tolerance wasn't enough? Now we're at Negative 1 tolerance?
 
2011-12-02 03:00:30 AM
was this in Florida?
I'm assuming it was
I'm not reading an article about a kid burping.
 
2011-12-02 03:00:51 AM
knifeyspoony: ...with picture of what a handcuffed shirtless teenager might look like!

Close enough?

(couldn't find the Spinal Tap one)

fc07.deviantart.net
 
2011-12-02 03:04:35 AM
Hydra: Y'know, these stories surprise me less and less as the years go by. This kind of shiat has gotten progressively worse - regardless of what differing opinions might think is the cause of it, we can all agree that judgment and discretion has disappeared and that these kinds of outrageous incidents occur on almost a weekly basis somewhere in the country - whether it's this kid getting arrested for burping or some kid gets fined $1000 for running a lemonade stand or whatever.

It's almost enough for me to WANT to see the entire system completely, utterly, and totally implode under its own weight so that we can build a new system up from scratch without the perversions of our current one.


A million brown people just agreed and said told ya so.

Nah, it was just one.
 
2011-12-02 03:05:01 AM
FirstNationalBastard: So, Zero Tolerance wasn't enough? Now we're at Negative 1 tolerance?

I think the article said it was a -2
 
2011-12-02 03:07:01 AM
Anal gerrymander.
 
2011-12-02 03:08:27 AM
Leskay: Anal gerrymander.

Band Name???
 
2011-12-02 03:08:30 AM
The Life Of Brian: See this is the problem with the system today...

In past times, the gym teacher would have just given him a smack to the side of the head & told him to pay attention...And nobody, kid included, would have thought anything more about it..

Now we call the cops!

And the whole strip in front of 5 adults? Was this a Catholic school?? (sorry - trollish!)

/I do not encourage beatings or such, but the whole idea of 'dicipline' has become a farce. I know one thing - When I was a kid - I was told if you get the strap at school, you're getting it TWICE as bad when you get home - And I kept that in my mind...
//Made me a smarter shiat-disturber!


Read that as "shiat distributor", and lovingly remembered "Ah, yess... you only get caught dealing weed in school once when your father will gladly hospitalize you if he catches you"
 
2011-12-02 03:10:03 AM
Honestly, just having been a teenager at one point I'm guessing that the student's probably done a lot of shiat to escalate the situation to the point where random minor infractions are getting him sent to juvie review. So the article reads to me more like a treatise on the importance of actually keeping a paper-trail on every complaint rather than some monstrous injustice. Had the school actually reported every even that built up to this shiat, I'd wager that this would be less FARK-worthy and more "well, that was inevitable". But since they didn't, they can kinda go fark themselves with something spiked and rusty, because if you've filed no complaints you frankly have no right to push things to the next level of discipline.

//Ran into this shiat all the time dealing with student residential issues. No one writes anyone up for anything because "they don't want to be a dick" or "otherwise, he's a nice guy" until it hits the breaking point and they what the offender evicted for continually being an asshole. No paper trail = not actionable, sorry.
 
2011-12-02 03:15:27 AM
Read that as "shiat distributor", and lovingly remembered "Ah, yess... you only get caught dealing weed in school once when your father will gladly hospitalize you if he catches you"

Scary stroy bro - I had a friend who always had the weed/pills/whatever - He had an older cousin who dealt & gave him stuff for free/reduced price..Hell I never knew what I was taking most times!

We were returning from a smoked lunch - and he saw his Dad's van parked on the road outside the school (gr 8) - He shoved everything he was carying at ME and went on to see his father... All I saw was a fist come out the window and him fall to the ground!

I was just a nerdy kid who happened to be friends with the guy who supplied everything! I was scared to death for 2 days having a bag of weed & a vial of hash oil in my pocket until he picked it up from me!

/don't know what the whole 'incident' was about - did know his father grew pot in their greenhouse... Children's Services got involved 'cuz the punch to the face outside the school was seen by many..
 
2011-12-02 03:21:36 AM
School administrators are the epitome of sniveling craven motherfarkers. They're even more petty and fearfully evil than DMV employees.

Add that to the natural boundary pushing dickliness of teens (I was one, I know. You were one, are you in denial?) and you've got quite the stew.

Of course in a rational society you'd realize this and compensate for it ... ... ahahahahahaaha yeah I know. Sorry!
 
2011-12-02 03:21:38 AM
Every time I look at my fellow humans, a little more of me dies inside.
 
2011-12-02 03:50:38 AM
He should at least get a "participation certificate" or maybe a "present trophy". Kids need positive recognition.
 
2011-12-02 03:59:37 AM
Man, I wish this was me at that age. I'd be floating in a Scrooge McDuck level of money now.
 
2011-12-02 04:00:38 AM
Jim_Callahan: Honestly, just having been a teenager at one point I'm guessing that the student's probably done a lot of shiat to escalate the situation to the point where random minor infractions are getting him sent to juvie review. So the article reads to me more like a treatise on the importance of actually keeping a paper-trail on every complaint rather than some monstrous injustice. Had the school actually reported every even that built up to this shiat, I'd wager that this would be less FARK-worthy and more "well, that was inevitable". But since they didn't, they can kinda go fark themselves with something spiked and rusty, because if you've filed no complaints you frankly have no right to push things to the next level of discipline.

//Ran into this shiat all the time dealing with student residential issues. No one writes anyone up for anything because "they don't want to be a dick" or "otherwise, he's a nice guy" until it hits the breaking point and they what the offender evicted for continually being an asshole. No paper trail = not actionable, sorry.


So does him being a little shiat justify handcuffing him and arresting him for burping? What happened to sending him to the office and giving him after school and lunch time detention? And how does him being a little shiat justify the teachers in strip searching him? By the way in just about every state it is illegal to strip search somebody unless you are a police officer and they only have limited powers to do so.
 
2011-12-02 04:34:41 AM
When burping is criminalized, only criminals will burp.

/or something like that.
 
2011-12-02 04:37:30 AM
cman: There was a time when people used common sense. Now, everyone is too damned scared shiatless to even do anything remotely sane.

It's a vicious circle, mostly. Administrators get scared of helicopter parents (or stories of same) who swoop in and threaten/sue any time their precious snowflake is even slightly inconvenienced; parents get furious at administrators who let really atrocious behavior slide until someone gets hurt; teachers become frustrated at spineless principals or district officials who talk tough and carry a rod of Jello; so the next batch of administrators put in tougher rules to placate the parents and then the union gets involved because a teacher or a student got caught in a pointless regulation...round and round it goes.

I've watched this for 40 years now and it's not getting any better. As soon as students were allowed "due process" as if going to the principal's office was the same as going to court, things started getting bad; then administrators started caving in to parents who threatened actual court battles; then District officials tried to head off both the students and the parents by creating "zero tolerance" and related b/s. Now a teacher can't discipline an unruly student in the classroom, because the student is entitled to "due process" as if the student had been charged with a crime and was going to court.

Anyone who thinks that that should be right, and I am wrong in challenging a student's "due process" rights will have to explain why to this scenario: An 8-year old boy won't sit down in class. The teacher has told him twice to return to his seat, and he refuses. The teacher says, "If I have to tell you again, Johnny, you'll stay in at recess." Question: Does Johnny have a right to force the teacher to conform to due process and prove that he should be disciplined? Does the teacher have a duty to create an evidence trail to justify her decision to keep Johnny in at recess?*

*Currently, the answer to both questions is yes.
 
2011-12-02 04:53:31 AM
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Kids these days get away with everything and aren't aware of consequences. Every one in awhile you have to make an example of someone so that they know who's in charge.
 
2011-12-02 04:54:56 AM
Glad I didn't grow up in this kind of school system. I'd have been put in front of a firing squad a long time ago.
 
2011-12-02 05:01:57 AM
ongbok: So does him being a little shiat justify handcuffing him and arresting him for burping?

It potentially might had there been a documented series of previous offenses making it clear in a quantitative manner that this was the last straw. Which was my point. The school kept no such record, so they're in the wrong here.

My supposition regarding the situation was speculative and based on my own experience on both sides-- teachers and administrators almost never go quite that crazy on a first offense, major or minor. They're still at fault for not following the incident report procedure, though.
 
2011-12-02 05:26:35 AM
or Tactical Flatulence Extraction Team...TF'er for short.
 
2011-12-02 05:30:06 AM
Keizer_Ghidorah: Every time I look at my fellow humans, a little more of me dies inside.

it is because of the way we is that some give up and become cat people, or hide in the bible, or the bottle, etcetera. hang in there, bunky.
 
2011-12-02 05:41:05 AM
I'm sure we'll have all the true details once Rev Al shows up.
 
2011-12-02 06:14:23 AM
The boy asked to call his mother; instead, they forced the student to strip down to his underwear while five adults watched.

"Go on....go on"
img.photobucket.com
 
2011-12-02 06:30:05 AM
AbbeySomeone: Job openings coming up soon at that school.
This kid needs to find a new one.


I don't think they allow 13 year olds to be employed. Isn't that against the child labor laws or something.
 
2011-12-02 06:35:49 AM
Criminal charges against school employees for the false arrest incident should be the case.
 
2011-12-02 06:37:49 AM
Burping. Calling the governor a name. What next for these terrorist kids? Flatulence? Time to reign in the craziness of craven bullying school administrations.
 
2011-12-02 06:40:07 AM
I bet that they will send him letters from the alumni assc. asking for money for new stupid shiat after he graduates.

CSB:
When I was a sophomore in high school, I was taking the first part of a two-year class to get my CCNA, when they decided to cancel it because: "they couldn't find a teacher to teach it". Except that was complete bullshiat. The class had always been taught by an instructor from a local community college, and the class required you to pay the high-school level tuition for the class (~$50, circa 2007). Anywho, I called the community college up and they informed me that the school backed out on the deal due to "funding". This is the same school that gives laptops to each kid in high school and middle school for the school year, and they couldn't find funding for a single farking class? What really rustled my jimmies was that they were building a whole new wing for the performing arts classes that very same year. That's some farked up priorities there. Way to "prepare your students for the global economy".

/Still a bit pissed about that.
//That school won't see a farking dime from me.
 
2011-12-02 06:41:39 AM
aearra: What next for these terrorist kids?

sniffing magic markers
 
2011-12-02 07:04:41 AM
you think this shiat's bad, you didn't go to school at shiatkicker high like I did. (well, really it was a small 600 person (and 4 last name) town)

since it was the county seat, it was where all the kids in the county came, so we had 300 students, anywho. The school rather obviously had 2 sets of rules.

One set for members of sports teams, and one set for everybody else.

Examples: One member of the basketball team was seen openly chewing tobacco while talking ot the principal, all the principal did was give him brand suggestions. Another kid was suspended for so much as wearing a pair of jeans with a skoal ring worn into the back pocket.

Another member of the basketball team was openly sexually assaulting a girl in full view of the same principal's office (girl was the principal's daughter even) and -she- got suspended for Public DIsplays of Affection.

That -same- ball player once beat a student, in the middle of the main hallway, to the point where medics had to come take him to a hospital, that kid, while in the hospital, was notified they had suspended him and were wanting to expel him for "Attacking a fellow student without provocation"

tl;dr, shiat like this kid getting arrested for burping doesn't suprise me, likely he was on the wrong side of the double standard, or was dealing with the fallout of a disagreement between the faculty and his parents.

/it's shiat I grew up with that makes the whole Sandursky situation not suprise me at all.
 
2011-12-02 07:05:15 AM
I'll just leave this here.Link (new window)
 
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