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2011-12-01 06:42:06 PM
Sorry, but The Obama says "Shooooooosh".
 
2011-12-01 06:44:14 PM
Deporting really is too expensive. .22 ammo is cheap.
 
2011-12-01 07:13:13 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Deporting really is too expensive. .22 ammo is cheap.

So you advocate murder and laugh when soldiers kill themselves.
 
2011-12-01 07:25:51 PM
Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Deporting really is too expensive. .22 ammo is cheap.

So you advocate murder and laugh when soldiers kill themselves.


Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.
And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

Don't you have some child molester to defend?
 
2011-12-01 07:31:18 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.

Keep denying it scumbag. You laughed when a soldier shot himself because you disagree with his politics.

jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

How about the businesses that hire them? Do your support executing the people who run those businesses and aid those people who are invading your country? Or are you going to give them a pass because they're white?
 
2011-12-01 07:53:59 PM
Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.

Keep denying it scumbag. You laughed when a soldier shot himself because you disagree with his politics.

jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

How about the businesses that hire them? Do your support executing the people who run those businesses and aid those people who are invading your country? Or are you going to give them a pass because they're white?


Anti American scum is added to the ignore list.
Go re-enact the OWS moron's exit.
 
2011-12-01 07:59:07 PM
Of couse he puts me on the ignore list when it's pointed out he only wants to murder Mexicans because of their race and not the immigration status. Otherwise he'd want those businessmen executed too for aiding the people invading his country..
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2011-12-01 08:47:57 PM
jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

This isn't just your country, dickweed.
 
2011-12-01 08:52:53 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Anti American scum is added to the ignore list.
Go re-enact the OWS moron's exit


So, if you don't agree with JWP, you should die.

That's a psychotic for you.
 
2011-12-01 09:16:55 PM
I think it's funny that these assholes call themselves a "civil rights" group.
 
2011-12-01 09:20:54 PM
Holy crap this article is ridiculous. Crazy-ass reconquista author.
 
2011-12-01 09:31:33 PM
Oh, there should definitely be an investigation. They should call all the FFL holders (who were told to execute the sales even when they expressed suspicion to the BATFE) with immunity from both prosecution and potential loss of their FFL. They should find out what Holder knew and when he knew it. The Latinos aren't the only ones that want accountability for this, because the government knowingly undertook actions that gave gun ownership a black eye and ammunition to the gun-control groups. Interesting, that. Who could have imagined that an administration with known gun-control leanings would do something that would allow them to make a case for gun control?
 
2011-12-01 09:36:44 PM
violentsalvation: Holy crap this article is ridiculous. Crazy-ass reconquista author.

I wouldn't call him crazy. I will say this is likely just the result of a bunch of government screw ups, and not wild conspiracy to rile Americans up against the Mexican immigrants, but something is farked up about this whole thing.

The ATF stepped in to get the sales to a gun smuggler approved, even when the basic background check would have denied it. One of the guys that was part of the crew that shot the Border Patrol agent was an FBI informant that double-crossed, them, and both the FBI and DEA knew they (the drug smugglers) were setting up an ambush but didn't tell the Border Patrol about it.

More stuff came out today. Yes, it's a PJMedia link, so maybe it's all BS, but with all the other BS we've seen in Fast and Furious I consider it plausible.

We'll see.
 
2011-12-01 09:37:42 PM
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Who could have imagined that an administration with known gun-control leanings would do something that would allow them to make a case for gun control

Known gun-control leanings? Obama signed legislation that allowed carry of firearms in national parks! That's a gun-grabber, right there!
 
2011-12-01 09:53:56 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Who could have imagined that an administration with known gun-control leanings would do something that would allow them to make a case for gun control

Known gun-control leanings? Obama signed legislation that allowed carry of firearms in national parks! That's a gun-grabber, right there!


Yes, known gun-control leanings. I know it's hard to swallow, but maybe this will help:

From change.gov, under Urban Policy:

Address Gun Violence in Cities: Obama and Biden would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Obama's words, from his own website.

Need more? Fine:

ABC News, 25 February 2009: Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban

The Obama administration will seek to reinstate the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 during the Bush administration, Attorney General Eric Holder said today.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.
 
2011-12-01 09:58:29 PM
Adolf Oliver Nipples: Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Obama's words, from his own website.


History's. Greatest. Monster.

Where's the gun-control? Making guns in the US childproof is TOTALLY grabbing guns.

Get real.
 
2011-12-01 10:00:18 PM
Oh, and there are some doozies in that second cite, too:

Holder said that putting the ban back in place would not only be a positive move by the United States, it would help cut down on the flow of guns going across the border into Mexico, which is struggling with heavy violence among drug cartels along the border.

You know what else works? Not compelling dealers to make sales and then losing track of the weapons they sold on your demand. Funny how much that statement looks like what actually happened under his watch, isn't it?

It gets better:

"I think closing the gun show loophole, the banning of cop-killer bullets and I also think that making the assault weapons ban permanent, would be something that would be permitted under Heller," Holder said, referring to the Supreme Court ruling in Washington, D.C. v. Heller, which asserted the Second Amendment as an individual's right to own a weapon.

Ah, the old "cop-killer bullet" canard. Care to tell me what a "cop-killer bullet" is? What, precisely, is the "gun show loophole"? I'd look forward to the answers, but I already know what they will be so it's anticlimactic.

Anyway, we're talking about Operation Fast and Furious, what a clusterfark it was, and why it should be investigated, not gun control. I'll have that discussion if you want, but we all know how those end up.
 
2011-12-01 10:02:07 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Where's the gun-control? Making guns in the US childproof is TOTALLY grabbing guns.

That you intentionally and willfully ignored the gun-control aspects of that quote is not my problem. You obviously have no intention of having this discussion in good faith, so I guess we can stop now.
 
2011-12-01 10:09:25 PM
violentsalvation: Holy crap this article is ridiculous. Crazy-ass reconquista author.



Yep. And let's take a look at that shall we?
 
2011-12-01 10:09:44 PM
jehovahs witness protection (ignored: douche)

There, that's much better.
 
2011-12-01 10:10:13 PM
all riled up equals all riled up, homes
 
2011-12-01 10:10:14 PM
I spent a day at Disneyland's new California Adventure and was surprised at how many cars with Mexican plates were in the parking garage. These weren't the beater Toyota Hiluxes I was used to. I'm talking just normal cars from Corollas through Lexuses. Just a normal variation of cars, but having Mexican plates.

Then heading into the park I heard Mexican spoke all around me. I'm so used to the stereotype of the "Mexican dishwasher" and "Mexican landscaper" that I was truly taken aback when I saw normal families walking along dressed like any other park attendee.

It was so far from what I had predisposed myself to thinking. These people were just like us! After years of living in the U.S., I never would have thought that a visit to Disneyland would change everything I knew about Mexicans. These were families with kids, just like mine, who traveled across the border, like I did, to enjoy the sites and culture of the country across the way.

I sat down and wept into my hands. The experience was overwhelming. Who was I to judge these people? Are they not my guests in this country? They come not to take my job or to siphon money back to their families, but to just spend a day here and enjoy what we had to offer in the very same way that I've spent a day in Canada enjoying their country.

It gave me a new respect for these people. I vowed on that day that I would never look at a Mexican as a usurper of American jobs and services but as a fellow human being who in different circumstances could have been my neighbor. Indeed, in a deep and profound way he is my neighbor.
 
2011-12-01 10:11:01 PM
Tsar_Bomba1: violentsalvation: Holy crap this article is ridiculous. Crazy-ass reconquista author.



Yep. And let's take a look at that shall we?


He has a nice journalistic mugshot.
 
2011-12-01 10:14:32 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: Then heading into the park I heard Mexican spoke all around me

You know why I don't give you any credit?

You think that Mexicans speak Mexican.
 
2011-12-01 10:16:11 PM
Step 1: Tea Bagger kills border guard.
Step dos: Tea Bagger makes people think it was them thar Mexicans.
Step 3: Tea bagger rejoins the rightwing circle jerk to grunt of his cleverness.

i.imgur.com
 
2011-12-01 10:16:14 PM
jbuist: violentsalvation: Holy crap this article is ridiculous. Crazy-ass reconquista author.

I wouldn't call him crazy. I will say this is likely just the result of a bunch of government screw ups, and not wild conspiracy to rile Americans up against the Mexican immigrants, but something is farked up about this whole thing.

The ATF stepped in to get the sales to a gun smuggler approved, even when the basic background check would have denied it. One of the guys that was part of the crew that shot the Border Patrol agent was an FBI informant that double-crossed, them, and both the FBI and DEA knew they (the drug smugglers) were setting up an ambush but didn't tell the Border Patrol about it.

More stuff came out today. Yes, it's a PJMedia link, so maybe it's all BS, but with all the other BS we've seen in Fast and Furious I consider it plausible.

We'll see.


You know, I hate to say it, but it is starting to actually look like a cover up. And I know there are good reasons to cover it up. They don't want CI's outed and killed, etc. But this is looking more like protecting someone's ass than protecting human assets.
 
2011-12-01 10:16:51 PM
jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

Yes, yes, we get it, you're a sociopath. Now go away.
 
2011-12-01 10:17:11 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.

Keep denying it scumbag. You laughed when a soldier shot himself because you disagree with his politics.

jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

How about the businesses that hire them? Do your support executing the people who run those businesses and aid those people who are invading your country? Or are you going to give them a pass because they're white?

Anti American scum is added to the ignore list.
Go re-enact the OWS moron's exit.


No, seriously: What do you advocate as punishment for those that knowingly hire illegal immigrants, thus contributing directly to the problem?
 
2011-12-01 10:18:47 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Obama's words, from his own website.

History's. Greatest. Monster.

Where's the gun-control? Making guns in the US childproof is TOTALLY grabbing guns.

Get real.


I know, and making permanent a ban that's already in place? THAT EVIL MANIACAL GUN-GRABBING ANTI-2ND AMENDMENTER!
 
2011-12-01 10:20:13 PM
Smells like a bunch of trolls died in here.
 
2011-12-01 10:27:05 PM
I was in jail with the guy who is accused of shooting the BP agent. He never said he didn't do it. And I did talk to him about it.
 
2011-12-01 10:27:50 PM
LincolnLogolas: I know, and making permanent a ban that's already in place? THAT EVIL MANIACAL GUN-GRABBING ANTI-2ND AMENDMENTER!

The ban is not already in place. It expired in 2004. It would have to be reintroduced, something that Carolyn McCarthy does faithfully and without fail every single year.

Knowing something about the subject would be a big help when discussing it.
 
2011-12-01 10:29:21 PM
Troll graveyard...
 
2011-12-01 10:30:20 PM
LincolnLogolas: I know, and making permanent a ban that's already in place? THAT EVIL MANIACAL GUN-GRABBING ANTI-2ND AMENDMENTER!

*sigh*

You yourself just quoted text from the Obama campaign that said that ban had expired. It was no longer in place. The ban died in 2004, Obama campaigned in 2008. The "Assault Weapons Ban" didn't have jack to do with crime at all. Nothing has ever been shown that it was remotely effective.

Hell, the gun used in the killing of agent Brian Terry was a WASR-10, a weapon that was compliant with the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

It was pointless legislation that just lead to annoying gun owners and manufacturers. That's about it. It didn't have dick to do with crime.
 
2011-12-01 10:31:12 PM
Do you know what Mexico does to Americans who sneak into Mexico to try to live or work without going through the proper channels? Guess. Go ahead and guess. Hint, it ain't no trip to fukin Disneyland.

The rest of the world sees Americans as weak, spineless pussies for being so lax on illegals.
 
2011-12-01 10:35:02 PM
LincolnLogolas: cameroncrazy1984: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Obama's words, from his own website.

History's. Greatest. Monster.

Where's the gun-control? Making guns in the US childproof is TOTALLY grabbing guns.

Get real.

I know, and making permanent a ban that's already in place? THAT EVIL MANIACAL GUN-GRABBING ANTI-2ND AMENDMENTER!


What part of expired do you not understand?
 
2011-12-01 10:35:17 PM
jbuist: LincolnLogolas: I know, and making permanent a ban that's already in place? THAT EVIL MANIACAL GUN-GRABBING ANTI-2ND AMENDMENTER!

*sigh*

You yourself just quoted text from the Obama campaign that said that ban had expired. It was no longer in place. The ban died in 2004, Obama campaigned in 2008. The "Assault Weapons Ban" didn't have jack to do with crime at all. Nothing has ever been shown that it was remotely effective.

Hell, the gun used in the killing of agent Brian Terry was a WASR-10, a weapon that was compliant with the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.

It was pointless legislation that just lead to annoying gun owners and manufacturers. That's about it. It didn't have dick to do with crime.


But it *felt* good, it was a victory in their minds.
 
2011-12-01 10:37:30 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Deporting really is too expensive. .22 ammo is cheap.

So you advocate murder and laugh when soldiers kill themselves.

Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.
And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

Don't you have some child molester to defend?


It isn't your country , just the country you were born into. You don't own shiat. you are so full of phoney entitlement and act like a mental infant. Go threaten genocide elsewhere.
 
2011-12-01 10:41:06 PM
Killing illegals instead of deporting them is obviously unacceptable. But our border and immigration policies should be enforced. Being brown is not a free pass. That said, if (IF) our immigration policies are not sufficiently meeting our needs (the needs of the lawful US population) then those policies need to be changed, stat.

As for companies that hire illegals, they should be fined and the person who hired as well as the owner and or ceo should do jail time.

Laughing at a dead soldier? Weak.
 
2011-12-01 10:43:04 PM
 
2011-12-01 10:43:12 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Deporting really is too expensive. .22 ammo is cheap.

So you advocate murder and laugh when soldiers kill themselves.

Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.
And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

Don't you have some child molester to defend?


encrypted-tbn1.google.com

Lest you need be reminded.
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2011-12-01 10:43:27 PM
WeenerGord: Do you know what Mexico does to Americans who sneak into Mexico to try to live or work without going through the proper channels? Guess. Go ahead and guess. Hint, it ain't no trip to fukin Disneyland.

ARE WE MEXICO?

Are we? Answer me that question you POS. This is the same shiat people used when we were torturing people. "Well so and so does it". fark THEM AND fark YOU.

Do you know who we are? We're the United States of America. We put a man on the moon just so we can plant a flag as a giant middle finger to the rest of the planet. We saved Europe's ass twice from Ze Germans. Anytime there is a pissing contest somewhere in the world, we get involved, because fark it, we're America. It's what we do.

Do you know what is great about America? I know the cliche gets used a lot, but we're a melting pot. Look at everything around you. Railroads, roads, airplanes, food, music, clothes,

And just because your forefathers thought it was a good idea to come here and work their asses off so people like you can make stupid bullshiat comments like this is an insult to everything about America. It wasn't build by white people. It was built by Americans. Do you know who Americans are? They aren't white. They aren't black. They are everyone who broke their backs working for pennies trying to make a living in this country.

So in conclusion, fark you and fark every other American who looks at immigrants like they are pieces of filth and vermin.

I'm out.

/drops the mic
 
2011-12-01 10:45:23 PM
MBK: WeenerGord: Do you know what Mexico does to Americans who sneak into Mexico to try to live or work without going through the proper channels? Guess. Go ahead and guess. Hint, it ain't no trip to fukin Disneyland.

ARE WE MEXICO?

Are we? Answer me that question you POS. This is the same shiat people used when we were torturing people. "Well so and so does it". fark THEM AND fark YOU.

Do you know who we are? We're the United States of America. We put a man on the moon just so we can plant a flag as a giant middle finger to the rest of the planet. We saved Europe's ass twice from Ze Germans. Anytime there is a pissing contest somewhere in the world, we get involved, because fark it, we're America. It's what we do.

Do you know what is great about America? I know the cliche gets used a lot, but we're a melting pot. Look at everything around you. Railroads, roads, airplanes, food, music, clothes,

And just because your forefathers thought it was a good idea to come here and work their asses off so people like you can make stupid bullshiat comments like this is an insult to everything about America. It wasn't build by white people. It was built by Americans. Do you know who Americans are? They aren't white. They aren't black. They are everyone who broke their backs working for pennies trying to make a living in this country.

So in conclusion, fark you and fark every other American who looks at immigrants like they are pieces of filth and vermin.

I'm out.

/drops the mic


Hell Yeah!
 
2011-12-01 10:51:51 PM
JohnAnnArbor: ANother article, same guy. (new window)

The worst part.

Phoenix civil rights activist Pablo Cruz is replacing Manuel Longoria as the President of Nuestros Reconquistos, one of Arizona's most prominent civil rights groups. Manuel Longoria has accepted a prominent position for the U.S. Dept. of Justice.
 
2011-12-01 10:54:45 PM
SN1987a goes boom: j


[encrypted-tbn1.google.com image 204x247]

Lest you need be reminded.

Did not work out so well for the FIRST Americans who had immigrant problems. HOPE we learn not to allow this second invasion to continue or the current Americans will end up extinct or on reservations too.
 
2011-12-01 10:54:45 PM
jehovahs witness protection: Aarontology: jehovahs witness protection: Never laughed the the OWS idiot, but twist words some more.

Keep denying it scumbag. You laughed when a soldier shot himself because you disagree with his politics.

jehovahs witness protection: And I DO advocate executing those who invade my country.

How about the businesses that hire them? Do your support executing the people who run those businesses and aid those people who are invading your country? Or are you going to give them a pass because they're white?

Anti American scum is added to the ignore list.
Go re-enact the OWS moron's exit.


I always wondered if one could ignore himself. Let me know how it goes.
 
2011-12-01 10:57:06 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Where's the gun-control?

Enacting unreasonable restriction upon rarely criminally misused and popular civilian sporting rifles is "gun control".
 
2011-12-01 10:57:51 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals. They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. They also support making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent.

Obama's words, from his own website.

History's. Greatest. Monster.

Where's the gun-control? Making guns in the US childproof is TOTALLY grabbing guns.

Get real.


Explain to us how you think it's possible to make guns child-proof and how it wouldn't be an undue burden on gun makers and designers. What would child-proofing entail?
 
2011-12-01 10:58:51 PM
Unlimited immigration. Good policy?

Universal citizenship for every person on earth who asks for it. Good policy?

And is it really fair that Central and South Americans can walk across the border, but people from other continents have to come up with the money to pay a gang to smuggle them in, or even sell themselves to said gang for passage? Between Africa and East Asia there's probably at LEAST a full billion people who would come to America if they had the choice.

We have to give everyone in the world who wants to come here a plane ticket and a green card, right? Good policy?

Immigration, yes. Diversity, yes. Unlimited immigration and universal citizenship, no.
 
2011-12-01 11:00:59 PM
MBK: So in conclusion, fark you and fark every other American who looks at immigrants like they are pieces of filth and vermin.

Your enraged rant is what proves that you are filth and vermin. Stick your mike up your ass.
 
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