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2011-12-01 04:54:13 PM
So wait, I should feed this to my boss then, is what you're saying?
 
2011-12-01 05:27:15 PM
"wake brain injury victims from a persistent vegetative state" is not what I'd call that video.

He can look around like a 2-month-old and laugh like Horshack more often than before.

Progress? Yes. "Awake"? No.
 
2011-12-01 05:53:15 PM
Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?
 
2011-12-01 06:43:09 PM
My body is ready for your sex

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2011-12-01 07:00:39 PM
Sanduskyed In The Shower: Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?

That's what I've heard, if you fight the urge to go to sleep you trip balls.
 
2011-12-01 07:01:44 PM
Perhaps, but they'll never be able to remember that they were awake.
 
2011-12-01 07:01:44 PM
But only for long enough to go to the fridge and eat an entire pie.
 
2011-12-01 07:02:35 PM
huh, so this is how the zombie apocalypse starts. Cool.
 
2011-12-01 07:05:56 PM
I read this article earlier today, and the prospect of being periodically "waken up" occasionally for just long enough to be cognizant of oneself in that situation seems utterly horrifying.
 
2011-12-01 07:08:23 PM
You don't even have to fight the urge to sleep. I will happily go to sleep after an ambien, then wake up fifteen or twenty minutes later and do things like.... terrorize forums with threats of live octopus. Write fiction. Rearrange the bedroom/collectibles. Put up the storm windows. (in august.) By and large, though, it's most common to just tweet really bizarre things.

It's reliable enough that i now unplug all electronics and put them out of reach and have my husband lock the bedroom door if i'm desperate enough to take one.
 
2011-12-01 07:08:37 PM
Too bad there wasn't space on the first page for the whole article.
 
2011-12-01 07:08:51 PM
Minus1Kelvin: Sanduskyed In The Shower: Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?

That's what I've heard, if you fight the urge to go to sleep you trip balls.


Nah, just makes you a bit loopy for a bit, then wears off and you don't even feel like sleeping anymore. I can't imagine taking Ambien for leisure.
 
2011-12-01 07:11:03 PM
balisane: It's reliable enough that i now unplug all electronics and put them out of reach and have my husband lock the bedroom door if i'm desperate enough to take one.

He should start a website: "shiat my pilled up wife does." It could go on to be a mediocre sitcom with B list celebrities that lasts a year and a half.
 
2011-12-01 07:12:05 PM
Minus1Kelvin: Sanduskyed In The Shower: Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?

That's what I've heard, if you fight the urge to go to sleep you trip balls.


Well I definitely start to feel trippy within half an hour or so after taking one, so I can see it happening. And I know from experience that I shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a computer or my phone during that time.

The longest I've stayed up was a few hours, when I popped one after boarding an overnight flight, and then it turned out we were delayed for an indeterminate time, and I was all agitated because I had a connecting flight that I didn't know if I would miss (which I did in fact miss)... and while I don't think I hallucinated, I was really far gone. Just a bad time all around. (All because some dumbass checked a bag and then didn't get on the plane... seriously, who does that?)
 
2011-12-01 07:15:18 PM
(his first words were "Hello, Mummy")

His second words were "brrrraaaaaiiiiinnnnssssss".
 
2011-12-01 07:16:44 PM
5mg, if taken during normal hours w/o the intention of going to sleep has a very mild xanax like effect. If taken 30 mins prior to sleep; will in fact nock your ass out for a good 4 to 5 hours. I have a prescription and get better sleep from melatonin.
 
2011-12-01 07:18:35 PM
There is a huge disconnect between the science and the experience of families in that article.

The families see the changes effected by Ambien on their relatives. They see the communication emerging. They see their loved one awaking from near-death. They know in their hearts that this drug has helped work a miracle and returned their family member.

But scientists reject it. The communication is random, they say. The patient doesn't truly follow commands. The families, they say, are mistaking correlation with causation, and not even that, but mistaking confirmation bias for the real thing.

We have this argument here on Fark just about every day. People who swear that something real has happened to them, but the skeptics who thoroughly reject it out of hand without a single hearing. Common sense and direct observation take a back seat to theory. Causation is dismissed as correlation, and the experiences of these people is rejected out of hand.

At least there are a few doctors out there willing to take the chance to look into these effects, even with the scientific community saying it isn't possible. These are the pioneers, and breakthroughs will be made by them and not the skeptical naysayers.
 
2011-12-01 07:27:41 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: There is a huge disconnect between the science and the experience of families in that article.

The families see the changes effected by Ambien on their relatives. They see the communication emerging. They see their loved one awaking from near-death. They know in their hearts that this drug has helped work a miracle and returned their family member.

But scientists reject it. The communication is random, they say. The patient doesn't truly follow commands. The families, they say, are mistaking correlation with causation, and not even that, but mistaking confirmation bias for the real thing.

We have this argument here on Fark just about every day. People who swear that something real has happened to them, but the skeptics who thoroughly reject it out of hand without a single hearing. Common sense and direct observation take a back seat to theory. Causation is dismissed as correlation, and the experiences of these people is rejected out of hand.

At least there are a few doctors out there willing to take the chance to look into these effects, even with the scientific community saying it isn't possible. These are the pioneers, and breakthroughs will be made by them and not the skeptical naysayers.


Either way, farking kill me if I'm in that state.
 
2011-12-01 07:27:50 PM
this news is literally like 5 years old. if you google it a bunch of old articles will come up.
 
2011-12-01 07:28:19 PM
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2011-12-01 07:29:07 PM
Orgasmatron138: Either way, farking kill me if I'm in that state.

Same here. I have asked to be kept alive for 1 year. If I don't wake up after a year, just pull the plug.
 
2011-12-01 07:32:06 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: There is a huge disconnect between the science and the experience of families in that article.

The families see the changes effected by Ambien on their relatives. They see the communication emerging. They see their loved one awaking from near-death. They know in their hearts that this drug has helped work a miracle and returned their family member.

But scientists reject it. The communication is random, they say. The patient doesn't truly follow commands. The families, they say, are mistaking correlation with causation, and not even that, but mistaking confirmation bias for the real thing.

We have this argument here on Fark just about every day. People who swear that something real has happened to them, but the skeptics who thoroughly reject it out of hand without a single hearing. Common sense and direct observation take a back seat to theory. Causation is dismissed as correlation, and the experiences of these people is rejected out of hand.

At least there are a few doctors out there willing to take the chance to look into these effects, even with the scientific community saying it isn't possible. These are the pioneers, and breakthroughs will be made by them and not the skeptical naysayers.


Definitely agree. However, as I read the article I couldn't help but think about the hell this family and this poor guy especially are going through. If that were me, I wouldn't want to live that way. If it were my daughter. . . I'd like to think I wouldn't put her through that kind of hell because it wouldn't be fair to her, to keep her alive but vegetative just because I couldn't bear to let her go. But God willing, I won't ever have to deal with that.
 
2011-12-01 07:34:02 PM
Or you could just smoke pot every day for years of your life and then when a brain injury occurs, you're well-protected.

/5 skull fractures
//cranioplasty
///6 months coma
..good as new!
 
2011-12-01 07:34:07 PM
themoraltimes.com

Tell us more.
 
2011-12-01 07:34:13 PM
Dear loved ones: If you are given the choice by the doctor, please feel free to take the easy way out.

Terri Schiavo horrified me.
 
2011-12-01 07:35:14 PM
Too bad Terri Schiavo's parent's didn't hear about this one...

Too soon?
 
2011-12-01 07:37:58 PM
Sanduskyed In The Shower [TotalFark] Add Favorite User Quote 2011-12-01 05:53:15 PM Ignore User
Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?



That depends. If your idea of a good time is having incredibly violent nightmares while being unable to awaken yourself for six hours then yes, it's an effing great time.
 
2011-12-01 07:39:23 PM
Please wipe the stream of drool from his mouth.
 
2011-12-01 07:40:19 PM
Not to go off topic, but:
Brain cells begin dying off just five minutes after blood stops delivering oxygen. After 30 minutes, there is likely to be more dead tissue than living.

Combined with:
Wayne and Judy refused to sign. "This is not some dog we're talking about putting down," Wayne shouted. "This is our son."

Why would you do that to someone you loved? Without their brain, nothing that made them who they are is left.
 
2011-12-01 07:40:25 PM
namegoeshere: Dear loved ones: If you are given the choice by the doctor, please feel free to take the easy way out.

Terri Schiavo horrified me.


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"If I should ever be in a vegetative state, please, for the love of God...don't ever show me in that condition on national television."

Ooooh. Whoops.
 
2011-12-01 07:40:48 PM
Ed Finnerty: My body is ready for your sex

I lol'd. Would lol again.
 
2011-12-01 07:43:36 PM
AverageAmericanGuy: There is a huge disconnect between the science and the experience of families in that article.

The families see the changes effected by Ambien on their relatives. They see the communication emerging. They see their loved one awaking from near-death. They know in their hearts that this drug has helped work a miracle and returned their family member.

But scientists reject it. The communication is random, they say. The patient doesn't truly follow commands. The families, they say, are mistaking correlation with causation, and not even that, but mistaking confirmation bias for the real thing.

We have this argument here on Fark just about every day. People who swear that something real has happened to them, but the skeptics who thoroughly reject it out of hand without a single hearing. Common sense and direct observation take a back seat to theory. Causation is dismissed as correlation, and the experiences of these people is rejected out of hand.

At least there are a few doctors out there willing to take the chance to look into these effects, even with the scientific community saying it isn't possible. These are the pioneers, and breakthroughs will be made by them and not the skeptical naysayers.


I am curious: are you advocating rejection of scientific methodology in favour of fallacious conclusions derived through emotion rather than through logic as a means of "trolling", or are you actually mentally retarded?
 
2011-12-01 07:43:57 PM
Troublesome Strumpet: However, as I read the article I couldn't help but think about the hell this family and this poor guy especially are going through.

I've wondered this. I'd like to think that if I were in a vegetative state, that I'd prefer to just be released, but you have to wonder how much of the loss and captivity you're really aware of. Maybe for some it's actually a fairly simple, peaceful, and pleasant state, free of the problems that fill our head when we're fully conscious.
 
2011-12-01 07:46:20 PM
Cagey B: I read this article earlier today, and the prospect of being periodically "waken up" occasionally for just long enough to be cognizant of oneself in that situation seems utterly horrifying.

100% agree.

/living will
 
2011-12-01 07:47:41 PM
Sarsin: Not to go off topic, but:
Brain cells begin dying off just five minutes after blood stops delivering oxygen. After 30 minutes, there is likely to be more dead tissue than living.

Combined with:
Wayne and Judy refused to sign. "This is not some dog we're talking about putting down," Wayne shouted. "This is our son."

Why would you do that to someone you loved? Without their brain, nothing that made them who they are is left.


My guess is that they believe in the human soul.
 
2011-12-01 07:49:00 PM
Does Ambien cause only marine-related hallucinations? I saw mention of an octopus upthread, the nicely illustrated walrus, and the one time that a friend of mine tried to resist sleep she thought there was a jellyfish swimming around her ceiling. We would never have known, but she texted her boyfriend about it while I was talking to him outside.
 
2011-12-01 07:49:24 PM
freewill: Troublesome Strumpet: However, as I read the article I couldn't help but think about the hell this family and this poor guy especially are going through.

I've wondered this. I'd like to think that if I were in a vegetative state, that I'd prefer to just be released, but you have to wonder how much of the loss and captivity you're really aware of. Maybe for some it's actually a fairly simple, peaceful, and pleasant state, free of the problems that fill our head when we're fully conscious.


The same is true of creationists. Nonetheless, I would not wish to become a creationist.
 
2011-12-01 07:50:06 PM
WarehouseMouse: Does Ambien cause only marine-related hallucinations? I saw mention of an octopus upthread, the nicely illustrated walrus, and the one time that a friend of mine tried to resist sleep she thought there was a jellyfish swimming around her ceiling. We would never have known, but she texted her boyfriend about it while I was talking to him outside.

My guess is that sea creatures, like spiders, are easy to associate with misshapen, largely formless hallucinations.
 
2011-12-01 07:51:03 PM
Sarsin: Why would you do that to someone you loved? Without their brain, nothing that made them who they are is left.

And even if they were somehow "trapped inside" that broken shell of a body, why would you want to keep them there for years and years, unable to communicate or control anything? It sounds like hell on earth.
 
2011-12-01 07:54:03 PM
I've been using Melatonin for a few months and it really works, plus I don't get up and do crazy shiat in the middle of the night.

I'm still exhausted though. I have this incredible problem going to bed. I procrastinate horribly and stay up playing BF3 or watching stupid TV or whatever. But at least now when I finally get myself in bed I go to sleep quickly and I sleep like a log straight through the night.
 
2011-12-01 07:54:35 PM
Troublesome Strumpet: Definitely agree. However, as I read the article I couldn't help but think about the hell this family and this poor guy especially are going through. If that were me, I wouldn't want to live that way. If it were my daughter. . . I'd like to think I wouldn't put her through that kind of hell because it wouldn't be fair to her, to keep her alive but vegetative just because I couldn't bear to let her go. But God willing, I won't ever have to deal with that.

Damn straight. It mentioned, briefly, that he'd taken too much Oxycontin. Maybe the guy wanted to die. Either way, living like that such seems cruel.
 
2011-12-01 07:56:06 PM
Ambien is crazy stuff. True story: Last night, while on Ambien, instead of going to sleep, I decided I was overdue for some manscaping (I really was). I used clippers to shave my nuts and actually cut my scrotum three times, blood all over my thighs. I put on a pair of shorts, thinking "Well, I don't want to bleed on my sheets."

Crazy stuff.
 
2011-12-01 07:56:28 PM
Sanduskyed In The Shower: Does ambien really make you hallucinate and have a good time if you don't go to sleep?

I take Ambien and my husband locks the bedroom door. I have been know to pig out, crawl into the closet and Stand outside and stare at the moon. I don't remember any of it. He's just afraid i may take a ride. It's a fun time, I just wish I could remember it. That does explain the weight gain, though.
 
2011-12-01 07:58:47 PM
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2011-12-01 07:58:56 PM
Sarah Palin's Conscience: My guess is that they believe in the human soul.

Even if you do, and you believe they are going to go to heaven why would you leave their soul trapped in a broken-down body?
 
2011-12-01 08:00:16 PM
fred_chan: Sarsin: Why would you do that to someone you loved? Without their brain, nothing that made them who they are is left.

And even if they were somehow "trapped inside" that broken shell of a body, why would you want to keep them there for years and years, unable to communicate or control anything? It sounds like hell on earth.


That's pretty much how I feel about it. If that were me and I had only vague moments of clarity, I'd probably be spending it begging my caretakers to let me go. I dunno. . .

Now I'm sad. Allow me to post a cute kitten to make us all feel better. . .

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/This thread called for two
//Hot
 
2011-12-01 08:03:17 PM
So, the plan is to fix the oxycontin coma with the ambien? What will those benevolent drug companies come up with next?
 
2011-12-01 08:04:25 PM
It's cool that Ambien can do that, but this guy tried to kill himself. Let him farking die!
 
2011-12-01 08:04:39 PM
Ed Finnerty: My body is ready for your sex

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Geeze! Ed Norton has seen better days....
 
2011-12-01 08:05:37 PM
If I find myself in that state, I hope my relatives move heaven and earth to wake me up, even if it means off-label pills, voodoo, and reading the phone book to me daily.

There's nothing after this, and even if I am about as bright as the average teabilly trolling on the Huffington Post after some horrific accident, at least I'd have some kind of chance to come back from it.
 
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