*Refudiates

Diogenes: What about all the people who busted their asses to go from the 99% to the 1%? This guy thinks we're living in a static caste system.

This guy is busting his ass to make sure that 1% stays static.

Republicans need to learn Diogenes: What about all the people who busted their asses to go from the 99% to the 1%? This guy thinks we're living in a static caste system.

The people busting their asses to try and become part of the 1% are the primary food source of the 1%. They sure as hell aren't making much money off the unemployed poor.

timujin: Seriously? His stance is "no one great has come out of the 99%."

I... just...

I could wear my fingers to the nubs with refutations for something that stupid.

It's almost like he's never heard of Abraham Lincoln.

Mike Chewbacca: timujin: Seriously? His stance is "no one great has come out of the 99%."

I... just...

I could wear my fingers to the nubs with refutations for something that stupid.

It's almost like he's never heard of Abraham Lincoln.

Who?

gilgigamesh: That guy was a douchebag of cartoonishly epic proportions.

I'll bet I have him shaded grey1.

J. Frank Parnell: Republicans need to learn Diogenes: What about all the people who busted their asses to go from the 99% to the 1%? This guy thinks we're living in a static caste system.

The people busting their asses to try and become part of the 1% are the primary food source of the 1%. They sure as hell aren't making much money off the unemployed poor.

Ahh, one who has fallen for the R vs D lunacy. You sir, ARE the problem.

People need to learn that Rs and Ds are the 1%. They and those that want to divide everyone up into a political R vs D are the enemy.

Who born into the 1 percent ever did anything really great?

The only person I can think of is Batman, and he's not real.

Trackball: Ahh, one who has fallen for the R vs D lunacy. You sir, ARE the problem.

People need to learn that Rs and Ds are the 1%. They and those that want to divide everyone up into a political R vs D are the enemy.


How quickly you judge and assume. Was going to make a joke then got distracted, and forgot to erase the beginning.

I'll make a joke about the 'D's or 'L's sometime. Be sure to watch for it. I owe no allegiance to any party.

Would you care to respond to the rest of my post, or is this your way of ignoring it?

It's not the 99% vs. the 1%. It's not even the 99.99% vs. the 0.01% as another FARK thread a few weeks ago suggested.

It's the 99.998% vs. the 0.002%

The top 400 households in the USA control fully ½ of the total wealth of this nation.

The USA has ~300 million people. Assume that ~100 million of those are dependants. That leaves 200,000,000. The 1% would be 200,000 strong by this measure. The 0.1% would be 20,000. The 0.01% would be 2,000. The 0.001% would be 200, and finally we're into the realm of the real mega-criminals, the modern robber barons. So double that and we're back up to the 0.002% (400), which already own ½ of the wealth (and growing).

In other words, 499 out of every 500 of the "1%" should be backing the "99%." They're getting taken to the cleaners, too! These 499 include many (but not all) of the "job creators." I dare say that few of the 0.002% are actually creating many jobs (well, at least since Bill Gates), and of course a large portion of jobs are created buy the 99%.

The various charts that show the 1% with an increasing share of the wealth, and a growing gap between them and the 99%, aren't breaking that 1% down. When you do, you can see that the 1%, and even the 0.1% (1‰), aren't increasing their share anywhere near as much, if at all, compared to the 0.01%. I have yet to see a chart that breaks down the 0.01%, but I strongly suspect that one that separated out the 0.002% (or maybe 0.0025%) would show similar results and a much, much steeper rise of the highest sliver of the population compared to the rest.

What both Mr.99% and Mr. 1% are missing is that it takes both to make this psuedocapitalist system we have work. There has to be a certain amount of Capital to fund the business that hires the workers that produce the products so those workers can spend the money paid by the businessman to them to buy the products they make. If anything, Mr 1% doesn't understand that under the current model, he'll eventually end up as one of those people protesting that he so despises.

Bukharin: Diogenes: What about all the people who busted their asses to go from the 99% to the 1%? This guy thinks we're living in a static caste system.

This guy is busting his ass to make sure that 1% stays static.

You guys believe him? Nah he thinks he's the .002% but they wouldn't be out on that balcony. They give him enough money to buy a nice suit but he's still "the help" (even if he is a house boy).

When a 1%-er closes a door, he bars the windows

if that guy's the 1% and notable people only come from the 1% then who the hell is he?

"No one good ever came out of the 99%"
"Oh, yeah? What about the Beatles?"
Paul McCartney is worth half a billion dollars (new window)
Ringo is worth a quarter billion (new window)
George Harrison was worth almost half a billion in 2001 (new window)
John Lennon's estate is worth almost a billion (new window)

/not that this refutes the talking point, but you can find better examples than people who were in the 99% and aren't any longer.

the beatles suck

COMALite J: The top 400 households in the USA control fully ½ of the total wealth of this nation.

I'm on your side but that stat mixes two separate stats and is incorrect:

The top 400 Households are financially worth approximately the same as the bottom half of the US population combined.

The top 1% of the US control approximately half the total wealth in the US.

Note: Both stats ignore that most of the wealth held by the bottom 99%, and virtually all the wealth held by the bottom 50% is in home equity and pension funds and is fairly inaccessible compared to equivalent wealth held by the top 1% and even more so when compared to accessible wealth held by the top 0.01%. The wealthiest few in the country are therefore able to use the fact they control almost all the disposable wealth in the nation to influence the running of government to their favor in ways that even very large groups from the bottom 99% are incapable of.

Again? Link (new window)

Beatles? Marx Bros?

Many of the readily available "99% to 1%" examples are in the arts.

Which is why I always wonder the reason the arts are given such a bum rap on good old Fark.

/99% to 1% via a career in the arts

Theaetetus: "No one good ever came out of the 99%"
"Oh, yeah? What about the Beatles?"
Paul McCartney is worth half a billion dollars (new window)
Ringo is worth a quarter billion (new window)
George Harrison was worth almost half a billion in 2001 (new window)
John Lennon's estate is worth almost a billion (new window)

/not that this refutes the talking point, but you can find better examples than people who were in the 99% and aren't any longer.

I agree. He should have used an example to which there is no rebuttal. Perhaps something along the lines of our army infantry men fighting overseas to protect his precious bank account. You know, the young men and women that have no choice but to join the military as a means to get by and possibly go to college should they somehow survive. I bet that would have inspired a ''ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu'' look from this guy before cowering away like the gutless POS he is. I'd dare him to spat this shiat in front of those occupiers. Fark this guy.

No one great? How about the Greatest?

Regardless of the 1% / 99% argument, that man is a weapons-grade douche. We're talking "Strong Enough To Take The Stank Off Snookie" strong.

So...this guy interviewed the Duke brothers?

Diogenes: timujin: Seriously? His stance is "no one great has come out of the 99%."

I... just...

I could wear my fingers to the nubs with refutations for something that stupid.

What about all the people who busted their asses to go from the 99% to the 1%? This guy thinks we're living in a static caste system.

I bet he's not even in the 1%. Probably about 72-73 or so.

doop

should've yelled JESUS CHRIST

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Theaetetus: "No one good ever came out of the 99%"

/not that this refutes the talking point, but you can find better examples than people who were in the 99% and aren't any longer.


These guys come immediately to mind.

As do the guys who made these, and brought these guys home.

The guy is asked to come up with someone great, and he says "the Beatles and Marx brothers".

Game, set, match 1%ers.

COMALite J: In other words, 499 out of every 500 of the "1%" should be backing the "99%." They're getting taken to the cleaners, too! These 499 include many (but not all) of the "job creators." I dare say that few of the 0.002% are actually creating many jobs (well, at least since Bill Gates), and of course a large portion of jobs are created buy the 99%.

How is not having as much savings as someone else "being taken to the cleaners".

More facts, less rhetoric, please.

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Theaetetus: "No one good ever came out of the 99%"
"Oh, yeah? What about the Beatles?"
Paul McCartney is worth half a billion dollars (new window)
Ringo is worth a quarter billion (new window)
George Harrison was worth almost half a billion in 2001 (new window)
John Lennon's estate is worth almost a billion (new window)

/not that this refutes the talking point, but you can find better examples than people who were in the 99% and aren't any longer.

I agree. He should have used an example to which there is no rebuttal. Perhaps something along the lines of our army infantry men fighting overseas to protect his precious bank account. You know, the young men and women that have no choice but to join the military as a means to get by and possibly go to college should they somehow survive. I bet that would have inspired a 'ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu' look from this guy before cowering away like the gutless POS he is. I'd dare him to spat this shiat in front of those occupiers. Fark this guy.

I rebut that! The average GI is unmotivated (the army is a career of default), uneducated, unambitious (most do not goto college after serving, despite the opportunity) and ignoble. Soldiering is not a dangerous career (compared to careers that do have a real amount of risk like logging, rigging, or mining). It doesn't tke any bravery to sign up. Very few soldiers are selfless, or even motivated by ideals. None of the conflicts the US is involved in is noble, and none of them are being fought to protect that guys bank account.

What it is that you think is great about them is beyond me. Maybe you are talking about soldiers from storybooks?

amoral: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Theaetetus: "No one good ever came out of the 99%"
"Oh, yeah? What about the Beatles?"
Paul McCartney is worth half a billion dollars (new window)
Ringo is worth a quarter billion (new window)
George Harrison was worth almost half a billion in 2001 (new window)
John Lennon's estate is worth almost a billion (new window)

/not that this refutes the talking point, but you can find better examples than people who were in the 99% and aren't any longer.

I agree. He should have used an example to which there is no rebuttal. Perhaps something along the lines of our army infantry men fighting overseas to protect his precious bank account. You know, the young men and women that have no choice but to join the military as a means to get by and possibly go to college should they somehow survive. I bet that would have inspired a 'ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu' look from this guy before cowering away like the gutless POS he is. I'd dare him to spat this shiat in front of those occupiers. Fark this guy.

I rebut that! The average GI is unmotivated (the army is a career of default), uneducated, unambitious (most do not goto college after serving, despite the opportunity) and ignoble. Soldiering is not a dangerous career (compared to careers that do have a real amount of risk like logging, rigging, or mining). It doesn't tke any bravery to sign up. Very few soldiers are selfless, or even motivated by ideals. None of the conflicts the US is involved in is noble, and none of them are being fought to protect that guys bank account.

What it is that you think is great about them is beyond me. Maybe you are talking about soldiers from storybooks?

2/10

Was going to respond with something a little more profound, but then I saw your fark handle and realized you were just derping.

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