"They can get married," Bachmann responded. "But they abide by the same law as everyone else. They can marry a man if they're a woman. Or they can marry a woman if they're a man."

Bachmann later went on to clarify her belief that "there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life."

I'm so glad, as a gay man, that I have the right to be exactly as Bachmann would like to me to be.

She's just swell.

Diogenes: "They can get married," Bachmann responded. "But they abide by the same law as everyone else. They can marry a man if they're a woman. Or they can marry a woman if they're a man."

Bachmann later went on to clarify her belief that "there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life."


That is so obtuse.

thismomentinblackhistory: Diogenes: "They can get married," Bachmann responded. "But they abide by the same law as everyone else. They can marry a man if they're a woman. Or they can marry a woman if they're a man."

Bachmann later went on to clarify her belief that "there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life."


That is so obtuse.

Obtuse, and the logic is painful.

"Law of the land" my gay ass. It's not the law of the land. Which is why they're trying to make it so.

Diogenes: "They can get married," Bachmann responded. "But they abide by the same law as everyone else. They can marry a man if they're a woman. Or they can marry a woman if they're a man."

Bachmann later went on to clarify her belief that "there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life."

I'm so glad, as a gay man, that I have the right to be exactly as Bachmann would like to me to be.

She's just swell.

It's a really empty argument. "Gay men can marry women." Well, we want heterosexual men to be able to marry another man--if they choose to exercise that right. It's not a special right but an additional right that EVERYONE will get. So why should the government withhold it?

That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.

Can we please oust these fundies from our government?

make me some tea: That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.

Can we please oust these fundies from our government?

I am NOT chopping off my junk just to marry a dude!

I feel sorry for these poor straight people who are going to have to marry people who don't want to fark them. It'll drive them into politics.

It works.

James!: I feel sorry for these poor straight people who are going to have to marry people who don't want to fark them. It'll drive them into politics.

Her civil right to deny me my civil rights trumps my civil rights. Civil rights are in a hierarchy, apparently.

Diogenes: James!: I feel sorry for these poor straight people who are going to have to marry people who don't want to fark them. It'll drive them into politics.

Her civil right to deny me my civil rights trumps my civil rights. Civil rights are in a hierarchy, apparently.

What about the civil rights of the frumpy house frau Michelle saddles you with? She's spending time putting makeup on her jowls and dressing slutty to entice you into the marriage bed and you don't want anything to do with her.

It's a farked up system she's advocating.

Sanduskyed In The Shower: I completely agree. I can't stand all these canadians pouring across our borders only to steal our good Zamboni jobs. I mean seriously, can't they stay in canada where they belong with their socialism and french people?

Don't even get me started on the jews

James!: It's a farked up system she's advocating.

Oh, not at all. The frau and I have every right to be unhappy and unsatisfied. It's so clear to me now.

Diogenes: James!: It's a farked up system she's advocating.

Oh, not at all. The frau and I have every right to be unhappy and unsatisfied. It's so clear to me now.

It would help the whole "only have sex to procreate" deal. Though with that you'd be passing your gay genes onto children you might otherwise not have had... and those gay genes are way too tight for children.

FTFA: Bachmann later went on to clarify her belief that "there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life."

It amazes me how much the right wingers focus on the sex act. Is that all they really think about? is that all their relationships consist of and the most important part of their relationships? I guess arguing that love between two adults is immoral doesn't hold quite the same ground as "ew, icky sex!" does. How about your love life, Michele? You know, same-sex partners can actually LOVE each other as well. I doubt they want to get married for the sex...they can have that anyway. If they're wanting to get married it's because of love, so why don't you come out and just say that you are against loving families (or allowing loving families to be created).

Of course, I doubt she's getting much sex from her gay husband, so maybe she does spend a lot of time thinking about sex and other people having sex.

WorldCitizen: Of course, I doubt she's getting much sex from her gay husband, so maybe she does spend a lot of time thinking about sex and other people having sex.

She was traumatized that one time Marcus came down with a severe bout of Santorum.

That only serves her purposes.

Diogenes: I'm so glad, as a gay man, that I have the right to be exactly as Bachmann would like to me to be.

You just defined what it means to be conservative. They want you to have the freedom to be just like them.

"They can get married," Bachmann responded. "But they abide by the same law as everyone else. They can marry a man if they're a woman. Or they can marry a woman if they're a man."

"Just like my husband!"

Hey at least she's waking the walk.

Homophobic asshattery is a learned behavior.

I would like for someone to ask her if the only reason she sees to get married is for sex and if that's the only reason she married her husband.

whenIsayGO: make me some tea: That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.

No, it's more like telling the black man who's in love with a white girl that his marriage rights aren't being restricted because he can marry a black woman instead.

That's different because gay people obviously choose to be gay, just like straight people choose to be straight.

And before you libtards start in with the whole "it's biology" bullshiat, let me point out that there are plenty of men who are happily married to women (making them straight) who only occasionally go out for some anonymous gay sex.

Diogenes: I'm so glad, as a gay man, that I have the right to be exactly as Bachmann would like to me to be.

She's just swell.

No kidding.

Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's different because gay people obviously choose to be gay, just like straight people choose to be straight.

And before you libtards start in with the whole "it's biology" bullshiat, let me point out that there are plenty of men who are happily married to women (making them straight) who only occasionally go out for some anonymous gay sex.

Yeah, we call the Republicans.

But in all seriousness, yes, there's biology behind it. Personally, I think it's a combination between hormones, brain structure, and personal choice. I know my sexuality changed when I altered my brain chemistry via hormone replacement - went from being 90% straight (interested in women, but willing to entertain the idea of being with guys) to being 99.9% gay (interested in women almost exclusively).

Here's just one more example of how the GOP can't get away from the "Our Way Of Doing Things Is The Only Correct Way For Everyone" mentality.

Just because this worked for HER, that doesn't mean it'll work for EVERYBODY.

BACHMANN: No, I said that there are no special rights for people based upon your sex practices. There's no special rights based upon what you do in your sex life. You're an American citizen first and foremost and that's it.

Gays don't want special rights they want equal rights you vapid bigot c*nt.

whenIsayGO: make me some tea: That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.

No, it's more like telling the black man who's in love with a white girl that his marriage rights aren't being restricted because he can marry a black woman instead.

That is more accurate, yes.

Exception Collection: I know my sexuality changed when I altered my brain chemistry via hormone replacement - went from being 90% straight (interested in women, but willing to entertain the idea of being with guys) to being 99.9% gay (interested in women almost exclusively).

Bachmann is nuttier than squirrel shiat, but you have to give her credit for not just talking the talk, but walking the walk as well. Hell, she married a gay man herself, so it's not just the usual case of "do as I say, not as I do."

gilgigamesh: Exception Collection: I know my sexuality changed when I altered my brain chemistry via hormone replacement - went from being 90% straight (interested in women, but willing to entertain the idea of being with guys) to being 99.9% gay (interested in women almost exclusively).

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She's transgendered. She went from male interested primarily in women to female interested only in women.

whenIsayGO: make me some tea: That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.
No, it's more like telling the black man who's in love with a white girl that his marriage rights aren't being restricted because he can marry a black woman instead.

As I mentioned in one of the redlighted threads about this story, similar arguments actually were made in support of bans on interracial marriage--"people can marry whoever they want, as long as it's a member of their own race," and "it affects black people and white people equally, so it doesn't discriminate against anybody." In fact, in the Supreme Court case that ruled that bans on interracial marriage are unconsistitutional, Loving v. Virginia, that's the main argument the state made in support of the law--as quoted from the opinion itself:

Instead, the State argues that the meaning of the Equal Protection Clause, as illuminated by the statements of the Framers, is only that state penal laws containing an interracial element as part of the definition of the offense must apply equally to whites and Negroes in the sense that members of each race are punished to the same degree. Thus, the State contends that, because its miscegenation statutes punish equally both the white and the Negro participants in an interracial marriage, these statutes, despite their reliance on racial classifications, do not constitute an invidious discrimination based upon race.

Of course, the Supreme Court found that argument to be utter bullshiat 35 years ago when it decided that case, and it's no less utter bullshiat today.

RexTalionis: gilgigamesh: Exception Collection: I know my sexuality changed when I altered my brain chemistry via hormone replacement - went from being 90% straight (interested in women, but willing to entertain the idea of being with guys) to being 99.9% gay (interested in women almost exclusively).

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She's transgendered. She went from male interested primarily in women to female interested only in women.

Oh! That was the piece of the puzzle I was missing. Didn't factor in a sex change.

gilgigamesh: RexTalionis: gilgigamesh: Exception Collection: I know my sexuality changed when I altered my brain chemistry via hormone replacement - went from being 90% straight (interested in women, but willing to entertain the idea of being with guys) to being 99.9% gay (interested in women almost exclusively).

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She's transgendered. She went from male interested primarily in women to female interested only in women.

Oh! That was the piece of the puzzle I was missing. Didn't factor in a sex change.

I'm glad somebody asked and answered. I read that sentence three times trying to make the math work. I was about to draw a diagram.

Give her some credit, at least she lives by the statement...

BACHMANN: Remember every American citizen has the right to avail themselves to marriage but they have to follow what the laws are. And the laws are you marry a person of the opposite sex.

Sounds like she'd be in favor of gay marriage if the laws were changed.

Tautology!

I just wanted to be the first to say it

Diogenes: make me some tea: That's like telling a black man he can marry that white girl if he paints himself white too.

Can we please oust these fundies from our government?

I am NOT chopping off my junk just to marry a dude!

OK, chop his off. Or move to the Northeast, either works really...