Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

Article is funny like Joe Piscopo at his height.

Descartes: Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

False?

TFA: Don't say 'bonus!'

Say "Hot Cocoa Sampler Box"

That is some scary farking right on business.

Descartes: Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

You think not.

Also, Republicans are better at naming things.

Job creators is the Republican safe word.

Descartes: Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

Keep it up. One day they'll give you that saltine you've been squawking for.

I wish this could be posted on billboards, printed in various publications over and over again, and posted in public places much like a Surgeon Generals' warning so people could better understand how they are being manipulated.

This worker "Luntz" is doubleplusungood. He progresses words into other words with young labels. I unlove him with all my cardio.

Descartes: Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

But what is steel compared to the hand that wields it?

Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington. You should occupy the White House because it's the policies over the past few years that have created this problem."

The you tell them there are protests in Washington and then they ignore you.

hey luntz...

*sigh*

CPennypacker: False?

not sure how to respond

cameroncrazy1984: They are doing both. So, no, he's still wrong.

so he's wrong on all ten? ok, i gave him too much credit

El Pachuco: You think not.

so he's right on more than one? ok, i didn't give him enough credit

erveek: Keep it up. One day they'll give you that saltine you've been squawking for.

Mom?

bdMurray: This worker "Luntz" is doubleplusungood. He progresses words into other words with young labels. I unlove him with all my cardio.

Oh, this message is awesome.

Is it wrong that I want this man to die?

FTA: "I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death," said Frank Luntz, a Republican strategist and one of the nation's foremost experts on crafting the perfect political message. "They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism."

GOOD.
This is why I support #Occupy.
/twirls mustache

6. Don't ever say you're willing to 'compromise.'

"If you talk about 'compromise,' they'll say you're selling out. Your side doesn't want you to 'compromise.' What you use in that to replace it with is 'cooperation.' It means the same thing. But cooperation means you stick to your principles but still get the job done. Compromise says that you're selling out those principles."

This is why we can't have nice things.

erveek: TFA: Don't say 'bonus!'

Say "Hot Cocoa Sampler Box"

How about, "Opportunity to invest back by right sizing payscales."

Descartes: *sigh*

CPennypacker: False?

not sure how to respond

Click the link maybe it will tell you how

Frank Luntz explains to Republicans how fire good.

The whole "jobs" versus "careers" example was especially creepy.

7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.

Acknowledge that there's a problem and offer solutions to it? That sounds downright productive.

Let's see if we have this right:

1. Citizens protest the fact that they are getting screwed.
2. Rather than address the problem, Republicans attempt to rebrand the problem as a not problem.
3. Yup, the reason why the people are protesting has not changed even though the labels have.

Paging George Orwell to the republican conference committee.

"I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, 'History stopped in 1936', at
which he nodded in immediate understanding. We were both thinking of
totalitarianism in general, but more particularly of the Spanish civil
war.
Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly
reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw
newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even
the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles
reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where
hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely
denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot
fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers
in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional
superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact,
history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to
have happened according to various 'party lines'. Yet in a way, horrible
as all this was, it was unimportant.
It concerned secondary issues--
namely, the struggle for power between the Comintern and the Spanish
left-wing parties, and the efforts of the Russian Government to prevent
revolution in Spain. But the broad picture of the war which the Spanish
Government presented to the world was not untruthful. The main issues
were what it said they were. But as for the Fascists and their backers,
how could they come even as near to the truth as that? How could they
possibly mention their real aims? Their version of the war was pure
fantasy, and in the circumstances it could not have been otherwise. "
-George Orwell

erveek: Descartes: Tell them, "You shouldn't be occupying Wall Street, you should be occupying Washington.

he got one right

Keep it up. One day they'll give you that saltine you've been squawking for.

He's half right. Wall Street isn't going to change how it operates just because protesters are surrounding their offices. The only way OWS can actually accomplish anything is to grab Congress's attention and get them to put more resources into investigating the firms that brought about the collapse, break up the biggest financial institutions, and regulate them to prevent a repeat of 2007-2008.

However Luntz is probably talking about ending CRA or the FHA, which won't do anything to help the economy or prevent another disaster.

Luntz is language cancer. It just reproduces until the original meaning is dead, replaced with what propagates best.

What he does is evil.

The GOP apparently thinks OWS is as susceptible to their messaging as teabaggers are.

Also, if OWS is so ineffective, how is it that their presence has made it so the GOP is being told to avoid the word "capitalism"?

Republicans should just step back and watch OWS start to attack the Democrats.

NkThrasher: 7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.

Acknowledge that there's a problem and offer solutions to it? That sounds downright productive.

well, at least some adults are going to focus on solutions instead of just whining.

This article offends me in so many ways.

I hate Luntz with the heat of a thousand suns. The man makes a living out of manipulating, confusing, and lying to Americans, and takes pride in that fact.

If by some freak event I were to wake up as Frank, I would immediately stick a gun in my mouth and see how many times I could pull the trigger.

The man is pure scum. People like him make me wish that there was an afterlife, because he will never get what he deserves in this one.

Frank Luntz is a truly evil and despicable man.
That said, I am completely fascinated by him.

BdMurray's guide to Newspeak

Don't say protest, say mob
Don't say fair, say specially balanced
Don't say poor, say unlucky
Dont say taxes, say rated fees
Don't say reasoned, say calculated.

Yes, they may all be synonyms individually, but together they form a dangerous pile of lies by omission.

sigdiamond2000: Lunaville: I wish this could be posted on billboards, printed in various publications over and over again, and posted in public places much like a Surgeon Generals' warning so people could better understand how they are being manipulated.

I don't think the average American would care much if you showed them exactly how they were being manipulated.

I really don't have much problem with what Frank Luntz and others like him do for a living. I guess you could argue that they hate America, and in a sense you'd be right, but I think it's kind of a natural response to what we've become. We don't respond to facts and rational discourse, so f*ck us. We deserve people like Frank Luntz.

Yeah, pretty much.

Although, on the other hand, I think we can give Americans a LITTLE bit of credit for responding to the Occupy message at all. I've been trying to get the word out about income inequality since at least May of this year, and if you had told me back then that, within six months, people would be marching through the streets and getting arrested by the thousands for speaking out about it . . . well, I would have said you have WAY too much faith in Americans' intelligence and sense of social responsibility.

Farxist: NkThrasher: 7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.

Acknowledge that there's a problem and offer solutions to it? That sounds downright productive.

well, at least some adults are going to focus on solutions instead of just whining.

I know, it's just so out of character with recent politics.

Rozotorical: "I remember saying once to Arthur Koestler, 'History stopped in 1936', at
which he nodded in immediate understanding. We were both thinking of
totalitarianism in general, but more particularly of the Spanish civil
war.
Early in life I have noticed that no event is ever correctly
reported in a newspaper, but in Spain, for the first time, I saw
newspaper reports which did not bear any relation to the facts, not even
the relationship which is implied in an ordinary lie. I saw great battles
reported where there had been no fighting, and complete silence where
hundreds of men had been killed. I saw troops who had fought bravely
denounced as cowards and traitors, and others who had never seen a shot
fired hailed as the heroes of imaginary victories; and I saw newspapers
in London retailing these lies and eager intellectuals building emotional
superstructures over events that had never happened. I saw, in fact,
history being written not in terms of what happened but of what ought to
have happened according to various 'party lines'. Yet in a way, horrible
as all this was, it was unimportant.
It concerned secondary issues--
namely, the struggle for power between the Comintern and the Spanish
left-wing parties, and the efforts of the Russian Government to prevent
revolution in Spain. But the broad picture of the war which the Spanish
Government presented to the world was not untruthful. The main issues
were what it said they were. But as for the Fascists and their backers,
how could they come even as near to the truth as that? How could they
possibly mention their real aims? Their version of the war was pure
fantasy, and in the circumstances it could not have been otherwise. "
-George Orwell



apropos

NkThrasher: 7. The three most important words you can say to an Occupier: 'I get it.'
"First off, here are three words for you all: 'I get it.' . . . 'I get that you're angry. I get that you've seen inequality. I get that you want to fix the system."
Then, he instructed, offer Republican solutions to the problem.

Acknowledge that there's a problem and offer solutions to it? That sounds downright productive.

Until the first suggested solution is to further reduce taxes on the top income levels, outlaw abortions and ban gay marriage. Then it all goes to shiat.

Frank Luntz explains to Republicans how talk about OWS

explains to Republicans how talk about OWS

Republicans how talk about OWS

how talk about